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SHUT IN THREAD FAQ
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>What do I do in the threads?
Talk to people, make conversation. Don't try to get into anyone's pants. It is a social thread on /soc/, for actually being social, without nudity!
>Wait, is this some super-secret cool kids' club where you can only be some sort of shut-in freak to participate in?
No, we are moderately tolerant of normalfags here. Feel free to participate, just don't be a dick.
>I DON'T LIKE ___________
Discuss it with us, but civilly. If you are spouting out cusswords and insults because you don't like something, chances are, it is not going to change and you will be blown off as some anally pained droll. Now, if you are civil, people will work with you.

>skype group?
ask the thread for an add to the skype group

Sure and please use this prompt:

>IRC name?
>Contact info
>Age
>Sex
>Location
>Favorite Book
>Favorite Movie
>Favorite Music
>NEET/Introvert/Shut-In?
>What are you looking for?
>Who do you want to add you?
>Who don't you want to add

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Also we haven't done one of these in ages. Lets get going!

shut more like SHIT

(the offshoots are better prove me wrong faggots)

>>25190831
> Shota King
> 18 ; )
> No thanks
> California
> Don Quixote
>Rocky Horror Picture Show
> DOOM, Badu, Bach, Debussey
> I go to school
> Anything
> Anyone
> Whatever

>Gonna do it Tuesday hopefully. Plan to introduce myself/hand a letter explaining my interests/intentions.(Usually seems too busy to talk 2 min gap between classes always with professor) Finals/ Break is coming up so hopefully consequences will be low
Not sure exactly what you're doing here, are you considering handing a letter to someone who you've had no real prior contact with to explain your interests in pursing a friendship with them?
If that is the case, I understand how this seems like a good idea, but it will come off as strange and autistic to a normal person.

To me initiating a friendship without some kind of really obvious catalyst is an impossibility so I can't help you there. My most recent IRL friendship (which I have mostly let deteriorate now because depression probably) was a bit over two years ago before I failed out of college. I was sat next to them in class and noticed they were on 4chan, I started browsing too and I was able to work up the courage to say something.

>>25190932
all healthy men are

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>>25190863
:^)
Where's yours?

>>25190924

I agree, if the user who posted >>25190300 is still watching, don't do it like this. People who hand out unsolicited letters and fliers are viewed as Jehovah Witnesses at best, and creepy autists at worst.

How about talking to her?

Fuck roach.

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>Contact info
higgus#9240 on discord
higgus#2149 for overwatch
https://steamcommunity.com/id/higgus
>Age
18
>Sex
male
>Location
united kingdom
>Favorite Book
crime and punishment
>Favorite Movie
her
>Favorite Music
slowcore
>NEET/Introvert/Shut-In?
all of the above
>What are you looking for?
people who play overwatch / other vidya or want to watch movies / tv shows together

>>25191062
Person isn't exactly normie status or full blown social retard like myself have noticed timid qualities. I understand that it is strange but I get really nervous so what's worse that or spilling spaghetti. I intended to ask for her name and start a little conversation before handing it over. Might ask their opinion about it.

https://discord.gg/jMYNeS4

I have a discord if ya'll are interested in joining it. It's got a lot of lgbt people, so uh... ye

>IRC name?
None

>Contact info
Tyler
PO Box 981
Forest Lake, MN 55025
United States of America

>Age
31

>Sex
M

>Location
St Paul/Minneapolis Metropolitan Area

>Favorite Book
"Far from the Madding Crowd" by Thomas Hardy & "Bloodlands" by Tim Snyder. Also: James Randi & Anne Applebaum.

>Favorite Movie
Cast Away, Gladiator, and Red Eye. Also, Peirce Brosnan, Liam Neeson, & Jason Staatham.

>Favorite Music
Mostly Top 40, but "Crimson Tide," "Blackhawk Down," & "We Were Soldiers" OSTs.

>NEET/Introvert/Shut-In?
N/Y/Y

>What are you looking for?
Penpals

>Who do you want to add you?
People willing to give me a mailing address.

>Who don't you want to add?
Anyone that's going to mindlessly countermand me, will disappear before we say as much as hello or after we get to know each other, and the like.

>>25191374
Well I think the idea is when you ask for her name and start that little conversation, you want to try surmise the contents of the letter in your introduction there instead.
But hey, go for the letter thing if you feel strongly about it, you have nothing to lose and everything to gain.
Not that I could ever follow my own advice on that one...

Sorry, what do you mean by "ask their opinion about it"?

>Contact info

[email protected]
>Age

29
>Sex

My species is unable to mate with humans.
>Location

Near a military base in sunny California
>Favorite Booksssss

The Razor's Edge, All of A Song of Ice and Fire, Tolkien, Crowley
>Favorite Movie

Rampo Noir, Bad Lieutenant, Smoking Aces
>Favorite Music

Eclectic and plebtier
>NEET/Introvert/Shut-In?

All of the above
>What are you looking for?

Someone to talk to. Am going mad.
>Who do you want to add you?

Anybody. Yes, even you.
>Who don't you want to add

I'm interested in everyone's point of view

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Hourly Reminder: If you have sex before marriage you are actively trying to destroy society

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For all the creepy dm's i get just because i'm a girl in shut,
Its great to see couples still playing together in the shithole called shut-in.<3

>>25191454
"Would you be interested in reading something if I wrote it out for you?" Or "How would you feel if someone randomly gave you something that they wrote?" Depending on reaction I could follow through or just keep talking.

>>25191730
Ah I was curious if that is what you actually meant, because again, it seems like a bad idea and something your average person wouldn't do.
But if she is the right kind of girl she might respond well? I don't want to discourage you because I'm impressed with your courage and I hope it works. Regardless it can be a learning experience and you'll only come out of it with more confidence, probably.

A more direct approach could be more effective but I wouldn't know anything about that. I think in somewhere like a PUA subreddit there may be some advice for someone in your situation, I've seen threads from KHVs in school asking for advice there so you might find something relevant.
As a disclaimer 99% of that PUA stuff is hilarious and terrible bullshit but I think dotted around it there is some legitimate advice for trying to approach women from guys aren't too gross and insensitive.

>>25191630
No girl is ever interested in me for more then three months : (. Am i just supposed to be sexless forever?

paro is a cunt

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>Contact
skype: htmlgoth, discord: josh#7652
>Location
northeast usa
>Favorite Movies
experimental films, especially jonas mekas
>Favorite Music
alt-j, sales, beach house, animal collective, eric copeland, laurel halo, superorganism, instupendo, hippo campus, etc.
>NEET/Introvert/Shut-In?
shy introvert, very selective in the people i talk to
>Hobbies
painting, philosophy, gardening, internet subcultures, indie games/artists, fashion, sims, interior design
>What are you looking for?
friends who share similar interests/music taste to talk about those interests
>Who do you want to add you?
anyone who shares a few interests !! don't be afraid to chat with me !
>Who don't you want to add
if u don't rlly get post-irony somehow or are against and willing to shoot down any popular trends just to make urself feel better about being edgy and underground, maybe don't add me? ty <3

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>>25191941
Gonna check out some of your favourites because you seem like you have pretty good taste, "Josh".

>>25191941
I want to add you because you seem to share interests of mine but I'm horrible at keeping up with people and already fear disappointing you

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>>25192047
the only way u could disappoint me is by being blatantly misogynistic or hating fun desu/// do it !!
>>25192009
ty <3 also FUCK thats,,, a good pic but simultaneously also what i fear i come across as

>>25192061
I know. I googled post-irony because I thought that just must be a word. And then it was, and I found that and it was a little surprising to see that these feelings I felt had already been summed up by something.

goodnight

>>25193106
post your 4square faggot

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Does anyone wants to do the Oni/Officer D.Va skins challenges on Heroes of the Storm? I'm pretty bad at both games (started playing less than a week ago) and I dislike mobas, but I really want the skins.

also, although I'd prefer not using it, I do have a working mic.

>>25191282
please notice me

>>25193213
post bnet senpai. I need it too.

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>>25193474

Lulu#23975

>>25193213
I also want the skins. I think bot games count towards it too so those would be really quick and easy to do.

>>25193582
bot games count only for the first skin, the D.va one has to be against real people.

You can add me if you want to, >>25193517

>>25193637
done

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>IRC name?
No
>Contact info
discord: Māo#2208
>Age
20
>Sex
Female
>Location
Europe
>Favorite Music
Chill stuff, nu disco, Japanese, K-pop
>NEET/Introvert/Shut-In?
Shut-In
>What are you looking for?
Friends
>Who do you want to add you?
Fun people
>Who don't you want to add
Perverts, normies

I usually draw (not well I think) or play games altho mainly just Audition, or watch stuff on Netflix~

>>25193637
>>25193655
sorry I was afk, pls come back

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>>25190863

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>>25193181
>>25193932

fine here!

>When Hien gets butthurt and bans you for having a discussion..

Nice mods..
No power tripping here at all kek

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Hello.
>Contact info
either.or1843
>Age
25
>Favorite Books
The Trial. Wittgenstein: The Duty of Genius. Either/Or. The Sickness Unto Death.
>Favorite Movie
Skamen. Jagten. Melancholia.
>Favorite Music
Classical. Post-punk.
>What are you looking for?
I want to talk about literature and films.

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>>25193932
I needa watch more Galko-chan. I liked Otako a lot too.

>>25193889
You use some kinda tablet? I'm not any kind of artist but I got the cheapest intuos, and it shows, but it's fun. I needa spend some more with it then maybe I'll get used to it and like it more. Why don't you post some of your work?

>>25195101
Watched it out of curiousity. Otako made me finish it

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No one's ever here

>>25195691
The ride never ends bro

>>25195782
Once you're in shut, you're in shut for life. There's no escaping :( (well sometimes you do escape but not most of the time)

>>25195691
Hmmm, I dunno, sometimes there is heaps of posts here.
Probably just because I started posting again...

I like this image.

>Contact info
Discord is SidneyBuckeye#7116
>Age
21
>Sex
trans girl (16 months on hrt)
>Location
US
>Favorite Books
Contemporary literature, science fiction
>Favorite Movies
Horror, science fiction, documentaries
>Favorite Music
Sludge metal, noise rock, post-hardcore, experimental rock, drone/ambient
>NEET/Introvert/Shut-In?
NEET and introvert
>What are you looking for?
to make friends with other trans people that are NEETs
>Who do you want to add you?
people that like the same stuff and have the same interests as I do, I guess
>Who don't you want to add
people from europe

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>>25190863

fun

>>25195101
I have 2 tablets but sadly the drivers aren't compatible with each other so I only use my newest now. I have the intuos draw small and I think you mean that one? It's actually still really good so it just depends on your skills. But nowadays I use one with a monitor. I'm not that good yet and haven't finished much because I don't have much free time and also have other hobbies.

>>25196147
lmao

not bad

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>>25196157
Yup. Well with that recommendation I'll have to give it a go soon with a renewed vigour. Yeah, I guess it's that dissociation between the tablet and monitor I'll need to get used to.
>But nowadays I use one with a monitor
Would love something like that someday.
Also you should just post a doodle some time, or a WIP. No need to worry about the critics here :^)
I'll spit out something dumb to post sometime after my cat leaves my lap.

Afternoon shut. Any plans for the weekend?

>>25196587
I'd rather not post that here sorry. And yeah the tablet is fine, just don't give up

>Contact info
kik : Phobosmancubus
>Age
31
>Sex
Male
>Location
UK
>Favorite Book
12:01pm, Ringworld, I, Robot, Hitchhikers guide to the galaxy, 1984, Blindsight, Toby streams the universe, I am Legend, Atlus shrugged.
>Favorite Movie
Jurassic World, Exam, The Breakfast club, The Butterfly Effect, Monsters : Dark continent, Gran Turino, End of Days.
>Favorite Music
Angry Johnny and the killbillies, The Offspring, Violent Femmes, The Aquabats. 90's punk and Electro funk, Oasis, They might be giants, Richard Cheese, Kunt and the gang, Featurecast, Less than Jake, Teenage bottlerockets
>NEET/Introvert/Shut-In?
Yes
>What are you looking for?
People to play vidya on steam with if I get on with them, people to watch movies with and people to hang out with until everything collapses
>Who do you want to add you?
People with a /pol/ sense of humour. People interested in old horror movies or reading classic science fiction.
>Who don't you want to add
Special snowflakes and degenerates

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My back is too messed up to sleep more than a few hours on it, and then I awake in great pain. Guess I need to finally see a doctor.

>>25197413
There's been a good thread on /t/ for old horror movies, some of my favourites from there are From Beyond, Society, Street Trash, The Stuff, Life Force and Hidden. All 80's stuff. Gonna take some on a flash drive to watch with my dad when I go out to visit. Love the practical effects in some of these, probably best in From Beyond? Society has some great scenes too.

>>25197446
They have a discord set up for it. Good people

>A/S/L
29/M/france
>Favorite Book
Sword of Destiny - Andrzej Sapkowski
>Favorite Movie
Anything by Jackie Chan, Kurosawa, Stephen Chow
>Favorite Music
Devin Townsend, indus/black metal, 80's jpop
>NEET/Introvert/Shut-In?
yes
>What are you looking for?
penpals, people to talk shit with

discord - mikekob#1308

What games are everyone playing?

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>>25197691
Persona 5.

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>>25197678
You going Le Pen or the guy in this coming election?

>>25197697
Think I'm just gonna get the PS3 version sometime. You wouldn't happen to be playing that one? If so how does it run?
Have you been upset by any problematic depictions of the LGBTQ community or general misogyny?

>>25197691
Pic related, I just wish I got any amount of enjoyment out of them. I've probably been most engaged with Dead Rising 4 which unlike nearly half of the Steam reviews, I've found to be a fine video game, even without quite living up the name.
Pleasantly surprised with Batman Arkham Knight (again, just wish I had the will to actually enjoy playing it), and can't argue with the great sale price of $14NZD. Very sad they fucked up the release so hard because it runs well now and looks great. It was nice to see the reviews turn from negative to positive to actually reflect the state of the game now.

>>25197691
Sorry, what are you playing?

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Markie F

>>25197781
No, it's a Japanese video game, don't see why it should pander to western values. It would be cool to broaden the romance options to all genders, but I honestly don't care.

>aka, most boys are shit

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>>25190863
It was really hard to find characters to describe my personality; kinda feel like I'm cheating by choosing three

Oh yeah, I'm not a shut-in, and I've got quite a few servers on my hands already, but if you want to add me, my discord is Illuminatus major#1984

>>25197781
>/co/mblr SJW faggot
>likes DR4
>downloading Mass Effect
Don't see a doctor so you can die pls

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>IRC name?
What?
>Contact info
Discord: Red Matsumoto #8789
>Age
18
>Sex
F
>Location
United States
>Favorite Book
The promised neverland
>Favorite Movie
Zootopia
>Favorite Music
Kpop
>NEET/Introvert/Shut-In?
Yeah...
>What are you looking for?
Gir-

Um...friends
>Who do you want to add you?
HOT CHICKS
I-I mean anybody would be fine...
>Who don't you want to add
Bring it on

>>25197678
Can I have your postal address so I can write you? I'm looking for a penpal, too.

>>25197413
I'm 31, too. Would you want a penpal?

>>25197697
Oh! I love photography; I don't have any Praktica stuff though.

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>AFK for ages in empty server of favourite game
>no one joins
Why is Ring Runner so dead

>>25197813
always remember momarkie

>>25197813
is that imaqtpie?

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>>25198080
>/co/mblr SJW faggot
lol I was referencing the fact that controversy existed and was playfully inquiring whether the poster was the kind of person sensitive to that sutff, it was ironic.

>likes DR4
Yes, it's like Dead Rising 3 but Frank controls better and the combat is more fun and streamlined a bit more. If not for being compared to DR or DR2 it would be a fine game I think. But that's OK, we're allowed to have different opinions it doesn't mean either of us is right or wrong.

>downloading Mass Effect
yup, as you can see I pirated it and didn't purchase it because it's not very good... I played the beginning to see what it was like, check out how bad it actually looked running in real time and the funny bugs I could get.

OK, now that we've cleared that up maybe we can be buds.

I got a bag of weed today after being dry for 2-3 weeks. Woke up my schizo uncle at night and was afraid I was gonna get shot but it was my birthday so he obliged.

>>25199190
this meme will never die

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xth for crippling loneliness

Here is a refuge for those who want to circumvent all the cumbersome drama found on the main /shut/ server. We are not hoping to compete but rather exist as a comfy alternative for those who might need a change of pace. We want to co-exist as a sort of spin-off of /shut/.

Anyway, please check us out:
https://discord.gg/Hg7KFtg

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https://plug.dj/shutinnetwork

>Contact info
KIK: JessieMemeQueen
Steam: /id/IWantToDieSometimes
Discord: MsMeano#6978
>Age
21
>Sex
Trans Girl
>Location
England
>Favorite Book
Looking for Alaska
>Favorite Movie
The Fault in our Stars or Shaun of the Dead
>Favorite Music
Metalcore? I dunno, I'm really liking Sylar and While She Sleeps atm
>NEET/Introvert/Shut-In?
All of the above
>What are you looking for?
Decent people to chat to, or play games with
>Who do you want to add you?
Chill people.
>Who don't you want to add
Not so chill people.

>>25199868
This will never go away either

>>25190831
Bumping because why not

>Contact info
Ben#2846
>Age
21
>Sex
male
>Location
Germany
>Favorite Book
I don't enjoy reading novels so much. But I have a neat instructional booklet for my old moped that I enjoy reading.
>Favorite Movie
I don't really watch alot of movies but I enjoyed Human Centipede 3 alot
>Favorite Music
I'm into italo disco and synthwave at the moment. Open to anything though.
>NEET/Introvert/Shut-In?
Introvert
>What are you looking for?
Friends and people to talk to and play games with. Maybe even a gf?
>Who do you want to add you?
Anyone. Finding people that are into military scale modelling and motor bike riding would be great.

>>25201349
Thanks for the bump german dude

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>Contact info
hiro protagonist#7580
>Age
19
>Sex
female
>Favorite Book
zodiac by neal stephenson maybe? or anna karenina
>NEET/Introvert/Shut-In?
introvert, not a total shut in because of classes and psych stuff
>What are you looking for?
friends
>Who do you want to add you?
blood ritualists
>Who don't you want to add
people who want sexual situations

>Contact info
Discord: Tawny#5183
Skype: TawnyFroggy
>Age
27
>Sex
f
>Location
Farm country, Minnesota
>Favorite Book
Weeb shit and history books.
>Favorite Movie
A Knight's Tale, Stephen Chow anything, Gladiator
>Favorite Music
Punk rock and related genres.
>NEET/Introvert/Shut-In?
I have a job but otherwise never leave home. I have no friends.
>What are you looking for?
People to blabber with to make me feel less alone.
>Who do you want to add you?
Chill people who don't mind me being shy at first.
>Who don't you want to add
People who will get upset if we fail to hit it off. People who want to get into my pants.

>>25196057
if I or discord fucked something up, my kik is AlexErin9

paro is a cunt

>>25202520

>IRC name?
Can't remember right now
>Contact info
Dicksword: Mann Servante#2052

>Age
Middle of my twenties
>Sex
good boi
>Location
More south and east than I would like to be. Ass end of the Appalachians.

>Favorite Book
Damn nigga i dunno

>Favorite Movie
Too many good ones. Jurassic park is always nice though. Nostalgia out the ass. But my favorite TV show right now is Star Trek TNG

>Favorite Music
I like when people take great game soundtracks and redo them in different ways. But I couldn't name a specific genre or band I love the most.

>NEET/Introvert/Shut-In?
Introvert, general anxiety, agoraphobia stronk, can't really get out even though I want to on occasion

>What are you looking for?
Whatever the fuck. I've been funposting in discord for a few days now and that's kinda fun despite the autism therein.

>Who do you want to add you?
I mean, anyone I guess but I mostly dm with women because I don't know what I would even talk to a guy about 1 on 1. Unless you're a cuteboi

>Who don't you want to add
Dead people, ghosts and ghouls etc.

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Chill /shut/
https://discord.gg/vHS2zux

--- Rules ---
Dont advertise other servers
Keep contained topics in their proper rooms
Dont be an asshole towards others

there will be no mods/admins
enjoy your stay

>>25199648
Shit m8, I really am sorry for saying that you should die, you are pretty alright

>>25202786
Reminder that this Discord is run by lut Guy. He's mentally unstable and ended up destroying a Skype group because he was going to get the demodded. If you're a female please avoid at all cost.

>>25202786
>https://discord.gg/vHS2zux

Is this less cancerous than the one in the OP?
As someone who's new and has a hard time connecting to people it's not easy to find friends and likeable people.

>>25202520
she not even around anymore

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>>25203112

Their frail attempt to attack me is a good indication you should get on board
But it still depends on what you define as cancerous, but yeah we are different then main branch

>>25202024
>Minnesota
Me, too!

I'm reading "Ivan's War" and trying to finish "Critism of Pure Reason.". I've finished with "Bloodland" some time ago.

I really enjoyed "Gladiator," though it starts slow like, "Man on Fire."

How are you generally doing?

>>25203388
>depends on what you define as cancerous
The ones in the lobby are are talking about tranny stuff and I just can't join their conversation because I have no idea about their quirky memes and such.
Well I'll visit you guys I guess.

Morning shut

>>25204111
well met

>>25191768
Thanks for the responses btw. It's been revised to be presentable. I hope I'm as courageous as you think.

>>25204419
Ah thanks, just trying to contribute to the conversation. Would you post it or any piece of it here? Regardless I am interested in how it all goes, best of luck.

Where is it best for a self sufficient shut in to live?

Aka cheap rent, good internet.

>>25204433
hmmnm, might have to compromise a bit on the internet for some south east asian place?

>>25204438
I dont speak asian. Doubt the renters would be okay with some american throwing bills at them till they give him a key.

>>25204444
nah I think they love white dudes with cash over there, that's where all my great uncles and their friends got new wives in their 60's after their marriages failed

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>IRC name?
>Contact info
Skype: kgkenshin
Dcrd:
>Age
24
>Sex
M
>Location
Canada bc
>Favorite Book
Battle Royale
>Favorite Movie
Scott Pilgrim
>Favorite Music
Wu-Tang, Gorillaz, Chance
>NEET/Introvert/Shut-In?
Heavily introverted.
>What are you looking for?
Chill people to play Vidya with, even shoot the shit with. If you're a fan of MMA/WWE feel free. Summer is coming along so i'm planning to go hard on my workouts again so maybe talk about fitness.
>Who do you want to add you?
^^^^^
>Who don't you want to add
Don't be a dick.

>>25203421

I'm doing alright, thanks. There is snow here again which sucks, but I imagine it won't last.

>Contact info
Discord echo#0972
>Age
20
>Sex
F
>Location
ask
>Favorite Book
I Am That
>Favorite Movie
Smiles of a Summer Night
>Favorite Music
Andy Stott, Flume, Crystal Castles
>NEET/Introvert/Shut-In?
Pretty introverted
>What are you looking for?
We dont have to have similar interests but if youre a happy, peaceful person and want to share that then that's what Im looking for
>Who do you want to add you?
Terminally chill people
>Who don't you want to add
Newds, lewds

>>25203112
>can't fit in with a group of shut-ins
iktf

Racistism

Wow can't believe how racist this discord is, kicking black people for no reason other than their race baka.

>>25190831
>>25190834
The fuck is this shit? I was kicked because of some prejudiced-ass mod didn't like my fuckin skin color. The fuck? Just because I made my icon my own selfie, me, a black man, for a single second, I was kicked. Yes, I am black.

Then when I went to appeal, that bitchboi Boots said, "Suck my dick cotton-jack."

How would you feel if your own race was abused for a millennia and you lose all your culture, and now your last bastion is living online rolling memes up with mutant incels who think you're a nigger? I mean I thought this was a community where we could watch Chinese cartoons together, but I guess I'm wrong.

Well get ready, because my niggers are gonna come and exterminate all you fat star trek nerds and your Uncle Tom niggers. You won't even have a waifu left after we've blacked them.

So get ready.

>>25205306
I have a similar experience, once they learned of my African heritage they swiftly banned me from their community. I recieved several DMs degrading my background.

I felt like I had finally belonged to something greater than myself but only to be let down by these insufferable racists. It's the current year.

>>25205306
Hell yea

>>25205306
I thought i had done something wrong or maybe it was a mistake, i just didn't bother cause part of me felt unwanted but now reading this it's pretty apparent why I was kicked.
I guess they just forgot the rule where we aren't allowed in there,

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This picture is how the people of /shut/ view me through their anime-obsessed definition of reality.

Andrew Jackson-loving pedophiles.

>>25205272
>>25205306
>>25205323
Nigger

>>25205306
lol when did this happen?

>>25205201
whats your fav flume song

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>>25205306
Fuck me lol
>Then when I went to appeal, that bitchboi Boots said, "Suck my dick cotton-jack."
My fucking sides

>>25205598
there's a separate /shut/ for blacks such as yourself

>>25205306
McTrash in a nutshell

get off your high horse faggot

also, shout out to my boy jj for still riding the cock of the golden state plantation and continuing to being a worthless sack of shit to society. and I got nothing for McJanitor. his name says it all. still like him more than your sorry ass jj. also shout out to my boy gucci, only nigga around here who says it like it is.

>>25206605
he is so salty over this

>>25206629
He has become ape, destroyer of self

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>>25206649
let us all pray.

>>25198052
Squall, really? Would be nice if it were true.

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>Contact info
Futamoo#2359 on discord
>Age
20
>Location
Texas
>Favorite Book
Hitler's Table Talk
>Favorite Movie
Hard choice between Moonlight and Synecdoche, New York
>Favorite Music
Blackgaze and ambient tend to dominate most of what I listen to. Stuff like Grouper, Germ, Heretoir, and Grauzeit
>NEET/Introvert/Shut-In?
NEET/Shut-in
>What are you looking for?
People to play vidya with, watch movies with, or explore music with.
>Who do you want to add you?
Artists and musicians are always nice to talk to.
>Who don't you want to add
Underage people.

goodnight

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baka yall not easy yall hard spittin fags.

frontin cracks pissa shit

u think u big time? u be dead big tim

>>25206649
"ape"

fuck u

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>>25205306
If I had to take a stab at the actual politics of why black people are kicked, it's probably because the white beta orbiters feel threatened by the notion of black individuals """stealing""" all the women attached to the community. Getting McBoots and company an underage girlfriend is the primary purpose of /shut/; any threat to that activity is swiftly eliminated. That means you.

What's funnier is that they believe somehow black people could ruin a community that's already cancerous in and of itself, completely devoid of anything that could be considered a proper shut-in.

To be honest though, based on the shit posted here you guys wouldn't really fit in with an actual Spede Pasanen tier autist/NEET/hikki community really well either, since you're immediate response was to shit on that sort of culture when you were kicked from a group that is only those things in name.

This is just normalfags fighting with normalfags on the most normalfag board in /soc/.

>>25204426
I might post photo of a section after the deed is done.

>>25205306
Glad to see Boots is a man of intelligence

>>25190831
Alright server. Mods and admins are pretty shitty people, especially Boots.
6.5/10 server overall.

>>25207642
I can't imagine you've been around long if you actually think Boots is worse than Help and Levi

>>25207707
I think Help and Boots are near equally despicable. Levi is just a burn out loser, but isn't really a douche.
I've been around for a year on and off.

>>25207534
LOL normalfags? if any of these white beta orbiting cunts were normal they wouldn't feel so threatened by anything they perceive as more confident or better off. they just circlejerk with other like-minded autists and weebs. they will ONLY tolerate autists and weebs of the lowest caliber.

if you're genuinely introverted, suffer from anxiety or the likes, close this tab and find a solution that isn't on 4chan.

>>25207958
Levi is an unstable sociopathic piece of shit dude. He's an actual schizo who got mod because someone felt bad for him

>>25208001
They're betas and failed normies, but not full blown autists. Think "Redditor" in terms of their social status. They're still capable of existing in a social sphere, but not exactly well adjusted in every sense.

Trust me, the company of individuals with crippling Aspergers is actually preferable to the /shut/ crowd; for example, you can actually play games other than Overwatch or League.

>>25208007
They're all morally reprehensible but you'll stick around because of the Stockholm syndrome like everyone else.

If you're seriously interested in better social spheres though, avoid Discord completely.

>>25208209
>you can actually play games other than Overwatch
God this fucking annoys me so much. I swear, Overwatch is the failed normie game, anyone that enjoys playing this is either a normie or a failed normie (100% the latter on this site).

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Chill /shut/
https://discord.gg/vHS2zux

--- Rules ---
Dont advertise other servers
Keep contained topics in their proper rooms
Dont be an asshole towards others

there will be no mods/admins
your other /shut/ discord
enjoy your stay

>>25208232
God yes I hate it so much. Such a stupid overrated game that everyone is on the dick of. Someone fucking gets it.

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>>25197813
>>25208209
based gods never die

live on, you have my blessings

>>25208232
Or it's just a popular shooter game. What should I play then? TF2, CSGO? Planetside? Battlefield? I play all of them as well.

>>25208418
Out of all of those, Planetside is pretty much the only non-normie game. People can play whatever they want, idc. But Overwatch is the one that stands out as a personality red flag.

you are a cunt paro

>>25208502
tfw no paro wife to raise a second little Mussolini with

>>25208418
Anything Red Orchestra or Rising Storm, Ace of Spades (the Ben Aksoy versions), Neotokyo, the whole Stalker series, Receiver, if we're talking FPS alone.

True autistic nirvana is grand strategy though. Start with Hearts of Iron IV or Europa Universalis IV, then Crusader Kings II. I have also heard Stellaris is good. Your wallet will hurt and the crippling addiction does not subside with time. Yes, you can play them all multiplayer. There are mods too.

Then for ascension, you go for ncurses games like Dwarf Fortress, Liberal Crime Squad, and so on. A lot of roguelikes ahead, but also text adventures and MUDs.

Slowly, but surely, you will stop being a casual.

>>25208007
>actual schizo
Unlike you then? But umm that's besides the point when are you getting unbanned? I thought you said you were gonna be back like 4 months ago.

>>25208657
Forgot to mention ego-tripping. Having fun?

>>25208675
Only if you are you if you aim for other mods like heen or maybe cockblockatiel perhaps you might become relevant again :D

>>25208688
Is that really what Boots looks like? Figures he looks like a creep since he is one.

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>>25190863
irredeemable tier

>>25208698
what actually are you? who gives a shit? your mods and admins sound like uppity spiteful manchildren

>>25208698
ok thot

https://discord.gg/Hg7KFtg

Join if you'd like a quiet comfy alternative to the standard /shut/ server.

>>25208502
At least she smells good :3c

This thread turned into people starting fake drama in order to shill their shitty discord.

You guys are letting lutguy, the dude who had a mental breakdown after he was told he couldn't be a Skype mod anymore and kicked out people who ran the Skype group.

And Sky / futamoon. A failed druggie tranny who claimed he was raped by his sister and once drank his own piss for attention.

You can tell who actually apart of shut and who's just here shilling for their own discord.

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>>25190863
This is fun

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>>25208859

>>25208732
huh P5 protag and Kenji look quite alike.

https://discord.gg/kW6Yegj
true shut in discord

>>25208859
>fake drama
I don't see why anyone would have to start fake drama when there's always been enough real drama to go around. The entire server as it is now is a product of retarded soapbox drama, and it pisses a new person off enough to make an entirely new group nearly weekly.

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>IRC name?
Nope.
>Contact info
[email protected]
>Age
21
>Sex
M
>Location
Stockton,CA(near SF and Sac)
>Favorite Book
Spice and Wolf/Rise of the Shield Hero
>Favorite Movie
None? Haven't exactly watched any movies in the last 4-5 years.
>Favorite Music
Hip-hop/JRock
>NEET/Introvert/Shut-In?
NEET/Introvert/Shut-in
>What are you looking for?
Friends, sex, anything resembling support.
>Who do you want to add you?
I like calm and quiet people, but anyone really. The more awkward/boring you think you are, the better(I'm fairly awkward/boring). Maybe we can play League of Legends together? I'm Plat I.
>Who don't you want to add
Easily offended/instigator.

this discord is really cringy

whats with the annoying roasties and roleplaying in it

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IRC name?
N/a
>Contact info
[email protected]
Kik: raymazeii
>Age 35
>Sex m
>Location Fulton,ky
>Favorite Book. Muscle magazine
>Favorite Movie vanilla sky
>Favorite Music. All
>NEET/Introvert/Shut-In?
All the above
>What are you looking for?
Some to talk about anything. Interested in anime/video/music/art/ video games/video game design /learn ing
>Who do you want to add you?
Anyone
>Who don't you want to add
People who are negative

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>Contact info
niva#1721
>Age
21
>Sex
m
>Location
Hobbit Country
>Favorite Book
Dragon Keeper by Carole Wilkinson
>Favorite Movie
My Rainy Days
>Favorite Music
Anything relaxing or 67
>NEET/Introvert/Shut-In?
Severe SAD attempting uni, stay inside otherwise.
>What are you looking for?
a girl to talk too, i prefer female company ;-;
>Who do you want to add you?
people that want to talk on discord
>Who don't you want to add
creepers

pic is what im listening too atm.

>>25206734
Well, facially I do look like Squall, without the scar. I am way more scrawny than he is, though.

>>25210156
Better be careful with what you say. Paro banned me, because I said "roastie" in the context of quoting /r9k/.

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now that nyaa is kill
i feel like its the end for me as well
nothing more can fill the void
im moving back to japan to become an (illegal) hermit girl (male)

Misa <3

>>25209262
How is this the true shut discord if t sucks? I mean maybe you fags would be able to create a good shut-in community if you would at least try to make a decent Discord that isn't based off of revenge drama.

>IRC name?
no

>Contact info
roach#3461

>Age
twenty one

>Sex
roastie

>Location
chicago

>Favorite Book
n/a

>Favorite Movie
little miss sunshine

>Favorite Music
hardcore/beatdown

>NEET/Introvert/Shut-In?
shut-in

>What are you looking for?
someone to play overwatch with me (Rat#11382)

>Who do you want to add you?
cool people who won't annoy the hell out of me

>Who don't you want to add
not cool people who annoy the hell out of me

This is tablecat, I was banned from the shut in network on my alternate account by the dreaded Heen for daring to ping him.

I want an explanation!!

>>25211094
>arguing a ban on shut-in
Plenty of people have been banned for less. The owners don't give a shit. Just keep making alts until they get bored of banning you.

How do make friends? Pls resbond.

>>25211116
send cash money, will risbont

>>25211120
fug

Hey, guys.

>IRC name?

>Contact info
woahdude69 on kik
>Age
18
>Sex
Dude
>Location
Scotland
>Favorite Book
The Flood by Ian Rankine
>Favorite Movie
Filth
>Favorite Music
Queen
>NEET/Introvert/Shut-In?
Shut In
>What are you looking for?
Some vidya friends, PS4 mostly. Consistent people.
>Who do you want to add you?
Fellow UK/Western Europe fags, time zones are an ass. Sorry NA/AUS
>Who don't you want to add
Normies.

>>25211102
That's too much effort. Heen, if you read this, it's over between us for good.

>>25211165
>too much effort
It takes 2 minutes to make a new email and Discord, and it's free.

Paro is a cunt

>>25211165
Eh, dunno if you actually are tablecat or not but accept my friend request on discord if you are.

>>25210783
Paro isn't a mod. Nice try.

>>25211583
She used to be a mod but hasn't in months. She's not even around the chat anymore. She's moved on, unlike her stalkers lmao

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Chill /shut/
https://discord.gg/vHS2zux

--- Rules ---
Dont advertise other servers
Keep contained topics in their proper rooms
Dont be an asshole towards others

there will be no mods/admins
stay salty haters (⌐■_■)
enjoy your stay

The irony of people shilling their side servers here with the first rule being 'Don't advertise other servers' should be lost on no one

>>25211989
Trying to reason with a dude who had a meltdown over losing mod on a Skype group is like trying to reason with a rock.

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>Tfw you're Hein and you ban noobs based on here'say with no evidence or warning..

>>25211989
>>25212312

But the mods don't even really care unless you're shilling your server publicly, like in lobby. Same with age: if you're under 18, then don't act like a kid and just don't tell anyone. They can't figure out otherwise.

Common sense is lost on these people.

KYS DISCORD KEKS. NICE FUCKING BOTNET YOU GOT THERE.

LO

>>25210465
define severe SAD how does it affect you/feel? Curious here, is it only towards certain groups/situations of generalized but more intense for specific situations?

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>>25190863

>>25210853
fuck it's gonna come back right??

>>25212373
ohaiNaomi is great

>>25198200
Haha get it? Because she's a LESBIAN? Oh man funny stuff.

Starting to think about becoming a shut-in.

What do you guys do for work? What about stuff like groceries?

ok first of all desu
i dont think we ncan be frandos anymoar
on account of ada fct dadt
my head is of sickiness...
;And
Dis hrt me
More dan u
Gfoodvye.. Fran...

paro, you are a cunt

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best anime

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>Go take a shit
>come back
>I'm banned..
...
Wut.
What a fuckin shit discord

>>25213081
hi kirby

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>>25210465
>hobbit country

My man.

>>25213091
Who in the fuck is that?

As I looked back on yesterday, a part of me was taken away.
I tried to hold back the tears in my eyes, as I thought about all our good times.
Earthworm you'll always be near, now your name will never disappear.
In your name, we will win this fight, forgetting not how you gave your life.
A fallen earthworm never dies, your spirit lives with us and in our fight.
<3

>>25213217
what the fuck are you talking about you schizo

>>25212571
>fuck it's gonna come back right??
Uh, sadly no. The owner, Mr. Nyaa, purged everything. There are backups up and running from a while back with just magnets. It will be replaced by a successor, but it will be from scratch again.

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>>25210465
>>25213098
Woah more than one person from NZ in here?
Where are you guys from? I'm Chch.

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>>25213258
>chch
Enjoy your 6 degree mornings!

I'm in the hipster capital of the world.

>>25198216
Define penpal?

nini

>>25211116
Write me.

Tyler
PO Box 981
Forest Lake, MN 55025
United States of America

>>25213290
Someone to exchange letters with. It's comfier than E-Mailing each other or using some other electric means

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>>25213271
Yeah I really felt it yesterday, left the windows open all morning to try air out the room a bit for flat inspection. I just wear more clothes and have a wee fan heater to make up for it.

You hit up all the good clubs and cool hangout spots last night? Revelling in the famous Wellington nightlife?

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Chill /shut/
https://discord.gg/vHS2zux

--- Rules ---
Dont advertise other servers
Keep contained topics in their proper rooms
Dont be an asshole towards others

there will be no mods/admins
enjoy your stay

I dont reason with haters, so stay salty *wink*

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>>25190831
https://discord.gg/GChbmSC

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>Contact info
Discord: Adrian#5094

>Age
21

>Sex
Male

>Location
Mexico

>Favorite Book
The Shinning

>Favorite Movie
Goodfellas, Fightclub, No Country for Old Man and Taxi Driver

>Favorite Music
Radiohead, Strokes, Frank Zappa, Pink Floyd and Arctic Monkeys

>NEET/Introvert/Shut-In?
Introvert,but i wish i could be a NEET

>What are you looking for?
Friends i guess, someone to talk to me while i'm drinking alone like the loser i'm

>Who do you want to add you?
Weebs and chill people in general

>Who don't you want to add
Pretty much everything goes, i'm bored anyways

>>25214047
or you dont reason with people who are right and you're skirt around the issue. Like ive called you out on your melt down before and you jsut got LOL haters gonna hate.

>>25214532
ok once again why did you end up kicking big boss and help from their skype group when they decided to talk to you?

>>25210340

Was going to add you and then I read that last bit. I'm ultra negative :(

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>>25190831
>Contact
maximus88#0913
>Age
18
>Sex
M
>Location
East Bay CA
>Favorite Music
Electronic
>NEET/Introvert/Shut-In?
N/Y/Y
>What are you looking for?
People who play vidya.I play overwatch & stellaris on pc.If i get irl life friends ill get a ps4
>Who do you want to add
I already have internet friends so im looking for people from cali who might want to meet irl. (We dont have to meet right away)

>>25190831
Worst thing about NEETs is that they are so well NEETs. Found a cute girl here and we talked for a while but she just slowly drifted away then cut contact saying it was just to much for her to keep talking with me. Really sucks since that's the type of girl I love best. I just want to sit around in a dark room and do nothing together with someone else.

24/M/FL, USA
[email protected]
I got other contacts to if you want them.

>>25214972
See: >>25191452

>I just want to sit around in a dark room and do nothing together with someone else.

This sounds fun. I hope to hear from you

>>25214972
Here. Just saw this so why not.

>Contact info
[email protected]

>Age
24

>Sex
M

>Location
Florida, USA

>Favorite Book
The Pillars of the Earth

>Favorite Movie
Doctor Strange? Zootopia? I really don't have a favorite just ones I like and don't like.

>Favorite Music
All kinda Like non vocals the most.

>NEET/Introvert/Shut-In?
Introverted and im a Shut in by choice for various reasons that I don't really want to get into here..

>What are you looking for?
Preferably a boyfriend or a girlfriend either LDR or real life. I've already had success asking on /soc/ so I'll keep it up. But I'm also down for just being lewd friends or regular friends and what not. It gets lonely yo.

>Who do you want to add you?
Anyone. Just state your intentions first. Be direct if you are looking for a relationship. If not just chat away.

>Who don't you want to add
No one?

any healsluts here? playing archeage atm as a tank

22/m with a dominant nice voice

>>25214972
Have a Skype? We might be friendos.

Well, it might be nice to chat anyhow.

>>25216153
I do got somewhere I can send it?

>>25216168
[email protected]

night shut

>>25216130
Which server?

>>25216130
shut has quite a few people who join it or are apart of it

is mandi still around? Irc is dead. ):

>>25217738
She left ages ago but I still talk to her

What's everyone up to this weekend?

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>IRC name?
Don't have one
>Contact info
only have my phone, not posting my number
>Age
22
>Sex
Male
>Location
Central Valley
>Favorite Book
Meditations
>Favorite Movie
Gangs of New York
>Favorite Music
Deftones
>NEET/Introvert/Shut-In?
NEET, I haven't left my house for almost a week now
>What are you looking for?
Don't even know anymore
>Who do you want to add you?
Don't have any accounts on anything
>Who don't you want to add
jews

>>25191787
better than being a beta cuck who accepts sloppy seconds

>>25198200
>>25212573
she could be bisexual

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>>25190831
>listens to intro

Handlebar mustaches you say? Shut-in NEETs you say?

WELL I'M YOU FUCKING HUCKLEBERRY THEN!

pic related is an older one so may or may not be 100% accurate these days.

Also looking for fellow redpilled buds

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>>25218512

paro is a slutty cunt

>>25218689
beli?

>IRC name?
N/A
>Contact info
Sadboi#2056 (Discord)
>Age
19
>Sex
M
>Location
TN
>Favorite Book
Don't really have one
>Favorite Movie
Amélie
>Favorite Music
Most anything laid back, jazz mostly
>NEET/Introvert/Shut-In?
Relatively introverted, but have to be social enough for school/part time work
>What are you looking for?
People who are chill and down to talk
>Who do you want to add you?
^^^^^
>Who don't you want to add
Just be generally not a douche I guess

>>25218411
smoking weed sitting in front of my computer, watching TV (like Community) and thinking about what game I should play next while trying to stay awake
what about yourself?

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Chill /shut/
https://discord.gg/vHS2zux

--- Rules ---
Dont advertise other servers
Keep contained topics in their proper rooms
Dont be an asshole towards others

chill /shut/ is here to stay
away from tyranny and modabuse
come talk with us ;)

>>25219471
>away from the tyranny

> anything run lutguy

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>>25219471

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Having a word with most of you made me realize this is more than truth

On a side note, it's hilarious how many of you don't dare to answer simple questions. What a childish cesspit.

>>25219877
Levi-tier pseudo-intellectualism detected

>IRC name?
Judo
>Contact info
Skype: judomumdo
discord: Judo#5302
>Age
23
>Sex
Male
>Location
Manchester Uk
>Favorite Book
Ningen shikkaku, GRR, was a lit major, love books
>Favorite Movie
too many to name lmao
>Favorite Music
Kendrick/gorillaz are my shit rn. really broad tastes.
>NEET/Introvert/Shut-In?
Shut-in and NEET. Agoraphobia's real, man..
>What are you looking for?
People to talk to, play vidya with...anything really..
>Who do you want to add you?
anyone who can hold a conversation or be cute 'w'
>Who don't you want to add
boring kids

>>25220084
also my steam
http://steamcommunity.com/id/diddykongscrystaldong/

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>>25190831
Love talking with shut ins. They are always sweet and cute besides being a little wierd. If anyone ever just wants someone to talk too can post my kik

i hate my dreams
i sometimes wish for being more normal with smaller ambitions

>>25219976
Lol sky

>>25218689
i wanna pee on her

>>25220872
sit on my face please

>A/S/L
22/M/UK
>Sexual Orientation
Straight
>Relationship Status
Single Pringle
>Text/Mic/Cam
Ye/Ye/Why
>Music
Electronic: Daft Punk, Chromatics, Passion Pit etc
Foreign: FEMM, Perfume, Daoko
Other stuff: Gorillaz, Childish Gambino, Vaporwave, Foo Fighters, Starsailor
>Books
Basically anything fantasy. Also Red Rising, Do Androids Dream, Battle Royale, Dresden Files, Manga
>Shows/Movies
I watch a looot of stuff on netflix, mostly background TV like sitcoms and comedies but sometimes other things like Sons of Anarchy. Big fan of horror movies, marvel movies are always fun if predictable, I'm easily entertained
>Vidya
Really too much to name, though I don't play quite as much these days as I used to. Retro games, roguelikes/roguelites, all kinds of games really.
>Are you interested in Skype groups?
Nah
>What languages do you speak?
English
>What are you looking for?
Chill friends, maybe to play stuff or watch stuff with. People that don't mind that I can be a little weird at times, I get stressed out and bad anxiety but I'm getting professional help. Introverts, NEETs, cool people.
>What are you NOT looking for?
Lewd stuff, really normal people that have no understanding of introverts and such
>Contact Info
[email protected]
Discord: Shiki#5102

>Gary
> Snapchat : megamanislit
>18
>M
>Iowa
>The entire Invincible series
>Experimental
>Introvert
>A good friend, someone to talk to
>Anyone who wants a friend, anyone who needs a friend
>People that'll make fun of me because I'm very different

>>25191380
I'm joining because I need people to talk to. :(

Paro is a fucking cunt

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hii plz add just looking for some qt boys to bee my steam friend thanks~

http://steamcommunity.com/id/plzbullyniichan/

i don't think im too threatening desu...

http://vocaroo.com/i/s1NXDAkU1kl9

can someone please talk to me

I feel really lonely, not a huge weirdo either

kik: DontCaresEE

>Contact info
Kik: Bowrerrytea
>Age
20
>Sex
M
>Location
Southern California
>Favorite Book
Myth of sisyphus, nausea, ect
>Favorite Movie
Stroszek
>Favorite Music
Velvet underground, Talking Heads, some shoegaze
>NEET/Introvert/Shut-In?
all of the above
>What are you looking for?
A friend, I lost a lot of friends as they moved on to college and ive been pretty lonely lately
>Who do you want to add you?
anybody whos in a similar situation
>Who don't you want to add
people with bad taste

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>>25190863
>tfw sort of want human interaction but despise humans

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anyone have that pic with Levi in a mexican outfit?

>>25222627
lol misa?

>>25222638
lol scrub?

>>25222627
Melee? Do you play melee?<3

>>25222803
I do, is this Levi?
If so, when are you marrying me?

>>25222804
Yes I am levi, Who is u bby then maybe :3

>>25222810
See >>25222638
and also filename


how dare you forget my pretty legs
me myself tho, Im pretty forgetable so thats fine and all

>>25222816
Did we ever get to play? Add me on discord lol

>>25222835
We played and you beat my ass in Marth dittos. Cause of heavy lag made us never play again lol

>>25222839
Now i remember lol ur the euro dude good to see ya in the thread lol

>>25222852
I don't deserve this positive response

>>25221647

Yeah. People suck and I'd prefer to just be a hermit, but I am still human and kind of need social interaction to not go crazy.

>>25223126
I might just be schizoid or something but I've never really needed human interaction. Have gone months without any and was completely fine.
It'd just be nice to have someone I actually like.

>>25223155

Hm, maybe. People are social creatures, though. I feel like no matter what, at some point we're going to want to interact with something. I'm sure during those months there was something that didn't make you feel alone, like a pet or a game or whatever.

Sometimes that's enough. I hardly talk with people out in the world. Online is where I do my social interacting, and that's what works best for me.

>>25223176
Perhaps. Strangely, I feel less alone when I'm physically alone. It's mostly when I'm with other people that I realize I'm alone.

>>25221393
>http://steamcommunity.com/id/plzbullyniichan/
never seen such an obvious bait alt acc

>>25223184

I'm the same. When I'm alone I feel like I'm free. Being around people makes me feel isolated and like I have to block off parts of myself.

Also, I hate eating in public places or being in crowds. I feel like every noise is amplified x100 and it drives me crazy. I don't know how other people can just block that shit out and focus.

>>25221400
I don't have kik

>>25221494
> I lost a lot of friends as they moved on to college
This happened to me too

Paro is a cunt

>>25223341
dedicated to this arent ya buddy

>>25223341
I miss when you promised to kill yourself

>>25221220
Man fuck Cromatics is good, thanks for sharing!

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>>25190863
surprise bitch, i bet you thought you'd never see me again

>>25224404
who?

>>25224405
some people will probably know who i am and that's probably a bad thing

>>25224404
why don't you ever talk to me on discord you shit fuck

>>25224499
you know exactly why.. ;-;.. i still feel bad..