Seeking Arrangement thread. Anyone ever used this thing? I have

>>24934301
Female who has used it here.
Had it for well over a year and only met two different guys though.

>>24934473
Thanks, didn't expect to get a reply from a female :)

What were your expectations when you joined? Did you expect to have to sleep with the men in exchange for money? And is that how it worked out with the two you met?

>>24934483
I thought I'd be able to get away with doing dates for money or selling nudes or something. Early on one dude paid me to speak to him over the phone.
You just get that many messages offering sex for cash that that's all it really becomes.

>>24934496
Yeah I'll see what the vibes are like with this girl tonight. I don't mind throwing her a few hundred bucks a month if she'll let me fuck her whenever I like and maybe send me the occasional nude. She's pretty hot so it would be money well spent.

>>24934496
>You just get that many messages offering sex for cash that that's all it really becomes.
That's kind of the point.

>>24934646
>That's kind of the point.
Depends on who you ask.

For men, sure it is. There's a "wink wink" that the money is for company, etc... but the guy wants sex.

For a lot of women, they want to do the bare minimum for money... dates, arm candy, maybe send nudes. But a lot of them will stop at sex.

>>24934675
>For a lot of women, they want to do the bare minimum for money... dates, arm candy, maybe send nudes. But a lot of them will stop at sex.
Yeah that's kind of stupid. Good luck to them though.

>>24934676
The point of the site isn't prostitution. That's just what a lot of the guys want to use it for.

>>24934697
It certainly is the point. You can call it sponsorship if you like but any girl who doesn't expect to have to fuck the guy is frankly deluding herself.

>>24934697
Just look at the website, on nearly every page there is a seductive looking couple. You gotta be real ignorant to think that site is anything more than a glorified sex site.
I am not complaining though, just think you are kidding yourself.

>>24934704
>>24934709
Well as a female using it trust me when I say every term and condition tells you not to use it as a sex site, you'll be kicked if you do, and not all guys use it like that. Not saying it's not used for that, just saying that's not the purpose of all the guys on there so don't act surprised when there are girls that aren't using it for that.

>>24934714
Well as you say you've been on it for a year and have only met two guys through it. If you're too prissy and/or frigid to fuck them then I can't say I'm surprised you're not having much luck there.

>>24934727
I didn't say I've only met two guys because I was prissy. I'm just saying I've only met two guys.
Have you experienced a lot of rejection? You seem angry.

>>24934746
So how do you account for the fact that you've only met two guys on it?

>>24934758
Fear for my safety. At times lack of interest. Creepy dudes.

OP here with an update. The bitch wanted $3000 a month. Naturally I told her to get lost.

I've used SA as a sugar daddy and was actually pretty pleased with the results. I've now deactivated my account since I've found enough sugar babies (actually more than I can handle). I'll certainly reactivate it if ever am wanting for someone again. I'd heartily recommend it to anyone who is actually serious about it and is able to fulfill their role as SD/SB.

Stats: had a paid account for 6 months. Met 8 girls in real life. Had an arrangement with 4 of them (and some still remain).

>>24934515
>>24934985
seeking this kind of arrangement would mean for the girl to basically have no romantic relationships of sort just to be at yours (and maybe others) disposal. a few hundred bucks dont seem enought to me, even if 3000 is maybe too much. do you want her all dressed up and taking care of herself, to mantain the illusion you're fucking a woman that is hot all the time? if yes, that's the deal. if not, get a gf, or a hooker, that's kinda what you want.

>>24934714
I hate to tell it to you, but if you think that a guy on SA is willing to have a "platonic" sugar baby, especially if he's relatively young, you'll have a better chance of finding a unicorn farting rainbows. Don't confuse this with pay-for-play, it's fully normal to meet for a first date without any expectations for sex, just to get to know each other and see if there is mutual interest.

If the sugar daddy takes you with him on a luxurious trip, going to fancy hotels and restaurants, lets you do shopping and gives you an allowance... he's not going to book two hotel rooms.

>>24935104
i never said that, read what i wrote: i only said that to be able to be "at your disposal" she wouldnt have any romantic relationship, because, i suppose, she wouldnt be able to have a boyfriend. i never said sex was not involved ( i even said FUCKING)
>tfw answer without reading :(

>>24935106
>>24935104
just to clarify, i say this because i am a girl and i have a boyfriend. let's suppose i dont have one: if i accept to be someone's sugar baby and i have a little of love for myself, i'd choose someone i like at least to a degree. and i like sex, as the majority of humans.
i dont think a girl with such arrangement would be so disgusted to not even fuck a sugar daddy.
reasons must be others.

>>24935116
Did you have an SA account while you had a boyfriend? Oh man. No wonder. There's nothing about arrangements that prevents you from having other arrangements (unless you specifically agree on exclusive), but it's still a relationship of sorts. If you have a boyfriend, he would need to be a pretty special type to agree for you to have a sugar daddy. Not saying they don't exist, but...

Were you replying to my post with a changed ID, or did you misread my post to be a reply to yours above? Because it seems like we're not quite talking about the same thing now.

>>24935127
i said that if i DIDNT have a boyfriend then i COULD have a sugar daddy. OMG, i understand that not being english mother tongue my writing is not perfect, but how can you understand the opposite of what i write? D:
leaving

>>24935133
I don't think we're getting anywhere. You seem to completely misread my posts.

>>24934985
This is not uncommon. $3000 isn't even that much. Or even if you do pay per date for $300, and you do three dates per week, that can add up to a similar amount.

>>24935127
My boyfriend is a cuck and wants me to have a sugar daddy. It's dumb but it happens.

>>24934985
>>24935253
Both sides are a bit extreme. OP's offer of a few hundred is fair depending on where he lives, but not for "she'll let me fuck her whenever I like". $3000 is also the average monthly salary in most places, so a sugar baby better do a helluva lot of things and be absolutely amazing to be worth that much.

In general, a good guideline for an allowance is the ballpark of a monthly rent where you live. For that, you can expect maybe 2-4 meetings a month. All up to agreement, of course. That's around how much I give out in allowance and what how often I expect to meet in return.

>>24935299
>$3000 is also above the average monthly salary

Is what I meant, obviously.

>>24935127
It's a different poster

>>24935299
$3000 is above the average monthly salary? That's sad. If you're a SD, you should be making more than that.

If you've been on SA, you'd know that $3000 is in the "practical" arrangement category. I find that to be livable but definitely not "great," especially if you have rent, student loans/debt, and other normal living expenses like health insurance, groceries, gas, and that doesn't even count the fun stuff. Granted, I live in a city, so I may be a bit jaded.

Is it the girls who look perfectly put together that get all the interest or are there dadies looking for girls like me who don't own high heels and have a lesbian hair cut but would fuck a guy for rent money? Are more men interested in the illusion of a well put together "girlfriend" or is it about the power?

>>24935332
What I meant is, $3000 is above average monthly salary in many places. So a sugar baby who expects to get as much allowance as a decently paid full-time job better be worth it and spend a lot of time and effort on her sugar daddy. Not that it's what I make. I make a lot more, otherwise I would not be a sugar daddy.

How much do you think it would cost to find a decently attractive girl to let me cuddle with her once a week?

>>24936083
get an escort $300+ per hour

>>24936512
Ok first off you can get a hooker for less than $300 for an hour.

And $300 an hour of cuddling is absurd.

>>24934301
>willingly being a sugar daddy

fucking loser

>>24936083
those are usually setups to get you off your guard so you can be killed by sons of the harpy
don't do it

>>24935431
most men probably don't wanna pay money if they think they're gonna get herpes

doesn't take much to doll yourself up.

>>24936544
But I just want to cuddle a girl.
Is it so much to ask for a man to experience the cuddling of a qt girl.

>>24934985
It's not that far fetched, I got 2800 for one-time anal

To be fair the allowances for the sugar babies can be posted on the website, anywhere from 1k-10k. So expect the sugar babies to want to be compensated even for small dates.
My friend is a sugar baby on the website, has a no sex policy but it seems like her first daddy is getting slowly displeased with her policy after a few dates(and a couple hundred dollars later).

>>24936771
what kinda cunt has that amount of disposable income

>>24936835
He wasn't rich, maybe upper middle class at most. Some guys are into that and want something more "premium"

>>24936848
it's still a ridiculous price for sticking it up a hookers bum.
simply putting a higher price tag on something doesn't make it more valuable. what a nozzle.

>>24936861
That's the beauty of being an attractive woman, we can ignore cheap offers because some guys are willing to pay high. Beggars can't be choosers, honey.

>>24936898
but those guys are dumb and impatient since the market is saturated with cheap sluts selling their vaginas.
a little shopping around would've saved him a ton of money.

>>24936913
Well I'm sure he'd disagree. Ask him if he regrets it and I doubt he'd say yes. And like I said, some guys are just into spending a large amount of money, it makes it more special for them.

>>24936771
You seem like a knowledgeable person to have this question to.

How much do you think it would cost me to do a cuddle session at someone's house.
Maybe with beer and pizza (I would provide that) and then watching movies or TV shows all night long till she falls asleep my arms.
Then I carry her to her bed tucking her in for the night and we both fall asleep snuggling.
In the morning I wake her up with the smell of freshly brewed coffee and hot eggs and bacon with toast or home cooked breakfast burritos.

>>24936898
>Beggars can't be choosers

Exactly. But the other way around, not the way you mention. SA is different from the usual dating sites, where girls have the choice. Sugar babies vastly outnumbers the sugar daddies, so sugar daddies can be picky and only truly pick the best girls. If a girl asks $3000 a month for a few dates with no sex, she'll immediately get ignored by 99% of guys since just around the corner there are at least 10 more sugar babies, just as attractive or more, who will be happy to meet a few times a month, including sex, for much less.

Good for you that you got so much for one time, but you should realize it's rare, not the norm. You lucked out, don't expect it to happen again.

>>24936540
>bitter poorfag virgin detected

>>24936551
I think you misunderstood me. I'm clean and well groomed just not traditionally feminine. I'm not some greasy blonde in a wifebeater tank top, I take care of my skin, shape my eyebrows etc. In the real world men's tastes vary as far as "dolled up" goes, are all sugar daddies looking for "dolls"? Is there a hipster esque demographic that want "different" girls or is it mostly "normal" dudes looking for what you'd espect in an escort?

>>24936791
Stories like this give a completely false image. The "no sex" girls on SA get very few contacts or dates. Stringing a guy along a few dates and a few hundred bucks is the most she can ever hope to get out of it.

Compare it to setting up an account on Tinder or dating sites and saying "I'm looking for a bf but I don't want to have sex with him." See how well that works.

>>24937236
There are all sorts of men on SA, just like all sorts of girls. Some might be looking for a girl who looks like a sexdoll, others want the nice girl next door.

Just give it a try, it won't hurt. I'm sure you'll get a few potential sugar daddies contacting you. Whether or not they're any good or to your liking is another thing, but... only one way to find out.

>>24937146
It's less about the content of non-sexual stuff and more about that time commitment. A quick fuck is easy money but an all night gfe, that's an investment. It really depends on the girl but I'd personally charge you less for a bj.

>>24937240
It's really not that hard to get paid for non-sexual encounters on SA

>>24937442
p.s. 23 y.o. f with experience of SA

>>24937442
Sure, you might get paid $50 for a coffee date. You won't get paid thousands, taken shopping for expensive dresses, be taken to 5 star hotels if you're not going to have sex. Don't forget that there are many sugar babies out there, and most will be happy to have sex. There really is no reason to settle for a sexless arrangement when there are so many other girls without that restriction.

>>24934301
I wish everyone who uses that website got a stamp on their forehead so I can stay away from them. It's amazing how you can rebrand prostitution with some vague terms and suddenly every college girl in the world becomes a whore.

>>24936083
id cuddle you

>>24937599
Why so angry? Are you really that mad about people having sex with someone who isn't you?

>>24934810
>no response
Kek girl you showed them

>>24937236

There are plenty of guys who would prefer you to traditional "sexy" looks that seem more fake.

Really the question is what are you willing/able to provide. If you are compassionate and sweet and saucy/sexy, then your look becomes a big plus.

Guys usually want someone who seems nice and interested in them. Someone willing to be alluring enough to dress and act seductive (or susceptible to his seduction). Then willing and enthusiastic in bed. Guys want to feel desirable and desired, and then feel like a champion in bed. Sure it's an illusion... but that's what the money is for.

Often girls who do this are not picky about the physical type they end up with, and get off on the effect their performance has and how treasured they are. Other times, they get off on how easily they can manipulate men and fake it. If you don't derive something emotional out of it, then it probably isn't for you.

Laying there and reluctantly taking it isn't going to get you anywhere.

As to your look, your description is vague but sounds very attractive to me. Sexy is as much about how you act as it is what you look like. Are you interested in being sexy? What kind of relationship are you interested in?

>>24937627
/r9k/ bleedover into /soc/

That board is to sexual relations what /pol/ is to race relations.

>>24937493
Gotten a 64" 4k curved 3d tv, a MacBook Pro, a $4000 gaming computer, a massage chair, and several thousand dollars worth of video games, electronics, and other gifts -including cash - for two pairs of panties over a six month period.

You won't do it != no-one will do it.

>>24937807
Sounds like you know how to find some desperate betas. That's not even being a sugar daddy, that's plain findom.

>>24937623
Thank you, do you live in North America?

>>24937884
SA is for findomming, too.

>>24937438
I understand your point but obviously for most women it is about the sexual stuff.

If I was to hire you to help me with my business’s paperwork I wouldn't be paying you $300 an hour, I'd be paying you $10 maybe $15 to start.

Now I understand this isn't paperwork it's far less demanding and far more socially uncouth to pay for.

It make sense and I can see why a bj would cost less but that's distinctly not what I'm interested in paying for.

I suppose it may not matter much but part of the concept is to make the experience as comfortable pleasant for the other party is it is for me.

Thank you for your response.

>>24937623
This fellow has the right idea.

Just made myself a SA account to be a sugar baby.... there are no daddies in Maine. Fuck.

>>24938160
I'm sure there must be some. Try searching within 100 miles?

>>24934301
There is a prostitute review board called USA sex guide. It has local boards on it that are subdivided into different forms of prostitution.(street,backpage,etc) there they have a sugar baby thread where you can maybe get some info on what you can expect her to do or not do. It seems like the sugar baby scene is just dressed up prostitution packaged in a more palatable form for everyone involved. Not like mistresses of days past.

>>24938175
The sugar scene on SA seems to vary a lot depending on location. In USA it's closer to prostitution since it's illegal and dangerous. In Europe it's more like classic sugaring, since prostitution isn't illegal, and there is no need to use that site to find escorts.

>>24936083
There was a trend in the recent past of cuddling services popping up try googling it. Since it's legal and safe(disease wise) for the provider it is cheaper than an escort generally.

>>24938181
There is no "need" in the US as plenty of escort sites exsist

>>24938220
In the US you need to be worried about police stings, and it's a pain to arrange for an escort. Plus quite shady. There's none of those worries in most of Europe.

>>24938247
Did you get lost on your way to /pol/?

>>24938201
Ok so I just looked into it and made a couple of throwaway accounts out of sheer curiosity to see these online smuggling sites.

I see $80 an hour pop up a couple of times, obviously much cheaper than an escort.

Not sure if I can explain it, something about these sites and professional "cuddlers" rubs me the wrong way, I get a weird feeling about it.

>>24938271
Ok I think this might partially explain my weird feeling.

http://archive.is/cmRVY

>a lack of human interaction can contribute to depression, stress, high blood pressure and aggression. But any amount of it, on the other hand, releases a chemical called oxytocin into the brain, effectively lowering high levels of stress and blood pressure. Human touch reduces anxiety, physically accelerates the healing of injured body tissue, boosts the immune system and creates feelings of calm and happiness.

That explains a lot, and after reading that article if I wasn't depressed before I certainly am now.

Am actually meeting a girl from SA tomorrow. Let's hope it goes well.

>>24937807
being a female is so hard. #misogyny #patriarchy #rapeculture

>>24939027
Shouldn't you be an underaged bitter virgin on /r9k/ and not here?

>>24940221
can't handle the bantz, stay in the kitchen.

>>24938747

Tell us how it goes.

My experience from these threads is that both usually expect way too much and are prepared to provide way too little.

The guy wants to get a full exclusive GFE plus as much sex as he can take, all for like a couple hundred bucks and a date at Applebee's. He's got elaborate fetishes to explore, and can't afford an escort, but a SB is like a bulk discount, right? It's the Golden Corral of sex for him.

The girl wants $3000 per month and to be wined and dined, and in exchange she will reluctantly hang out with him in early evenings once a month. But she has to leave by 9 so she can meet her bf. No sex, anon, what kind of girl do you think I am?! For her, an SD like a donor to an arts foundation: you're paying vast amounts of money for the privilege of having the cool kids look down on you in person.

Except on sugar threads on /soc/. Then the girls are thinly veiled cam whores trying to bypass forum rules. The boys are just trying to scam pics for free. Both sides catfish each other relentlessly.

Both sides need to be realistic about what they can offer and what to expect.

>>24940690
That can happen, but not often if you are meeting. Things like that get cleared up by messaging, before meeting. So generally the two will at least be somewhat on the same page.

>>24937623
Still waiting

>>24940690
We had a wonderful day and night together. Spending more time together today until I have to leave, then we meet again next week.

>>24934301
Bump.

I want to be a sugar baby, but as an elite virgin who is a bit afraid to have sex, following through to reply to messages I receive on SA allows eludes me. One time I was offered a really good deal and I regret to this day that I didn't reply! And another I was offered $10,000 a month and it was probably a lie, but it still was a nice compliment, hahaha!

I turn 21 in a couple days and come home from studying abroad in Japan a few days after. Maybe I'll remake my account and see where it goes.

>>24945143
I'm a bit confused. Does that mean you play the role of a shy virgin, but will give it up to the right guy and then have lots of sex with him?

It sounds like you have the right idea. The ones who promise way over the top are usually scammers.

>>24945444
Ah, nah. I meant it as I am literally a virgin who is afraid to have sex. But yeah, if it's the right guy, that's how it'd work out.

>>24946229
I think you'll find someone. You're not going to find an arrangement where the guy just gives you free stuff for dates. But you should find takers if you describe the scenario where you're okay with a guy slowly seducing you and taking his time to make you feel comfortable before sex.

I'd be up for it.

>>24946229
if you're even mildly attractive you could sell your virginity to someone for possibly $100k+ if you shop around.
don't just "give" it to someone.

>>24947385
You make it sound easy. It's not. She would need to be extremely attractive, and not just physically. Then she would need to find a man who is able and willing to part with $100k. A far more realistic scenario is that she finds a sugar daddy who will give her all the usual things, like fancy trips, shopping, allowance. The sugar experience. And that guy would be someone she can connect with and have fun with, and understands her virgin situation and is patient about it.

>>24947444
>extremely attractive
no. i doubt that. there's plenty of documented cases of girls selling their virginity. i don't think they were anything special besides being virgins willing to sell it.
on tyra there was a girl who found an older guy willing to spend $1mil.
just gotta put yourself out there and plenty of fish will take the bait.

>>24935332
>$40K a year is sad

Hahaha fuck off, bitch. That's $40k AFTER paying for his own shit, and unless he's going to give her more than he keeps for himself, that means he needs to be making well over $80,000 a year. Mental ass women entitled as fuck.

>average HOUSEHOULD income for Americans is 45k

>>24934301
Can I use it to buy a wife

I am so dead inside I just want someone to bear my kids and help around the house

>>24947505
that's not exactly what a wife is, anon

>>24947507
Let me rephrase


can use it to buy a slave without having to go to eastern europe

>>24947511
a girl from eastern europe would probably be cheaper and more satisfying

>>24947512
yeah but it's a really long trip

>>24947514
tell them to put her in a box and ship her to you

>>24947366
Haha, well if you're ever in the Chicagoland area, maybe we'll cross paths one day.

>>24947385
I'll keep that in mind, but it seems a bit tough for me.