Why don't people find me attractive, /soc/? I live in a

Hey dude, it's been a while since I last heard from you. Life isn't getting any better for you, eh.

>>24774650
Beekuz yoo so uglee buddie

>>24774650
Honestly, I think you look fine. I'm a dude though, so idk how girls feel. But you'll notice that in those threads there are mostly guys, and most guys get pretty brutal ratings, while even a pretty unattractive girl can post there and get rated very highly. Tldr; you're an average guy, and people are biased as fuck.

>>24774661
Hey, well I've tried my best to avoid this toxic realm, however I cannot bare the frustration and need to seek some guidance other than my head doc.

And,
I make a lot of money, and no, nothing has changed. The fact that I succeed in all facets but dating only further asserts my belief that it can't possibly not have to do with my looks? After all, no girl is interested enough to even notice I even have one!

>>24774670
Girls on Kik in group chats I've been in for ages refuse to share their opinions on how I look or say I'm ugly.... and they find me annoying that I ask for advice. So I came here. Thanks for the input, although I cannot even count how many times guys have told me I look fine. Even I personally view my looks as fine. I just don't see how I'm failing if this were the case.

>>24774681

>makes a lot of money
>cant find a girl

One of these things is not like the other.

Subhuman etes, subhuman nose

>>24774702
I make 66k a year. I'm just being honest... and we live in a world where girls seem to value how a guy looks too...
>>24774704
Etes?

>>24774690
Honestly women are probably turning their noses up at you because you ask them if you're attractive. Women hate insecurity and you are positively dripping with it.

Stop worrying about getting a lady friend, focus on you and the other things that fulfill you, your self confidence will come naturally after that, and you will be able to engage in normal friendships that have a likelihood of leading to a normal relationship.

You make 66K a year, fucking pick up travelling, or learn languages, or become an artist, or restore cars, or whatever. Just something to give you depth.

>>24774717
after reading this, i think i know what your problem is. Its pretty obvious.

>>24774787
femanon and I agree. I think you are a super qt and it's not like I'm very ugly myself. The brown eyes are so cute. All I can say is try not to hyper focus on this stuff, I know it can be easy. Stop trying to get ratings and validation from people, literally all you need is more confidence. I know it's not as easy as it sounds, but part of it is just not worrying so much about what others think. Some will think you are a 10/10 husband material and others will think you are a 1/10 nerd. That's just life. Go for approaching girls you like, unless they are an sjw, girls like being approached and talked to.

>>24774994
I'm a dude, fyi.

>>24774994
Hey OP here just saw this. The fact you said I'm super cute really caught me off guard, was not expecting to hear that from a fem just based off experience lol. I'm sure you're precious. I have to say I've been good with staying off validation for the most part. First time here in several months! But I definitely am just frustrated by my luck not changing. I can't pinpoint what I do wrong but I still always just be myself anyways and hope someday I find someone. I really just can't get away from the idea that it's very abnormal to have never dated by almost 24 years of age.

It's still all good to approach a girl randomly out of the blue? My only concern with that is that times have changed and it's kinda weird now lol but I definitely have courage.

Just chill a bit more and learn how to make a girl laugh. Thats about all you need.

>>24775350
But I'm literally rated ONLY 4-6, never 7

7 is not good

And girls never rate me 7


How is that not an issue?

Show us your tinder pics. Example that one is terrible. Bad angle, no smile, murder face.

>>24775364
Murder face? It's just a neutral exprsssion. Maybe I just naturally look like a creep... ugh this makes me sad I thought that was a pretty good pic of me.

nigga ppl will call you ugly on here just to fuck with you

you seem to be looking better as you age, that's good

just get a nose job and you'll be a 7.

>>24775394
The fact that I'm not a 7, without a fucking nose job, makes me feel like I should just kill myself


7 isn't near perfect
8 isn't either


If I'll never be liked for who I am, why live? Money and friends who only wanna drink or smoke isn't all I want to live for.

>>24775312
not dating somebody by the age of 24 isn't all that abnormal.

i'm 25 and I've only ever dated 2 women. it's a little odd to approach someone out of the blue, but if you can approach it from some genuine perspective other than "hey I think you're really pretty," then you'll have confidence in it and it can develop into something with meaning.

>>24775354
girls on 4chan (fucking, 4chan) never rate you above a 7 (which is a total lie I've personally seen you get as high as a 9 from women in rate me threads), but that's because they all know you here, you're like famous for having no self esteem - that weighs HEAVILY into a woman's perception of a man.

see my instructions above - they are not wrong.

also a diagnosis of bdd is not bs for you. you exhibit some pretty textbook symptoms, and if you accept the diagnosis and listen to those trying to help you you might actually get somewhere.

>>24775405

>ppl will call you ugly just to fuck with you
>calls you ugly

ya fell for it.

If you pay me $40 dollars, I can advise you on how to get dates, Tinder matches and so on.

It's real easy, you just seem to not grasp it. You honestly don't look bad. It's not your face that makes women unappealing to you.

>>24775408
What should my approach be like? Cause I feel awkward as fuck about just making a case go introduce myself to a stranger. I'm introverted already, was really hoping online would have worked out for me.
>>24775420
I mean, he seemed genuine and idc if I'm ugly I only care that I get rated sub7 always

>>24774650
>Why don't people find me attractive, /soc/?

It's because you're not attractive.

Brandon is so accessible. Hes like the trainer troll.

>>24775443
Your approach should be that of establishing a social connection on the grounds of common interest - this is why I suggested picking up some interests before, because then you have something you can talk about and bond over. You can build on the shared interests, or develop new ones that you both started together, etc..., but you can't just say "hey you're pretty" and think that that will be enough to make someone *genuine* interested in you. It's okay to feel awkward, I do too, whenever I approach someone, or meet someone for the first time, etc... that's normal, just let it happen, rather than trying to force it to be any other way.

you've fallen for the same trick several times in this thread alone, nevermind all the others that you're currently in. jesus dude... are you saying that it isn't even about someone finding you attractive, it's just about the fucking numbers? are you for real? my dude, most people here are fucking with you purposefully, because it's 4chan and misery loves company. don't fall for it.

you're not ugly. you're not spectacular to most people, but then most people aren't... you're pretty ordinary looking, even slightly more masculine looking than the average guy (thick eyebrows, small eyes, dark hair/facial hair are all masculine features).

stahp letting yourself run away with the opinions of fucking trolls, my dude. it's killing you.

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>>24775473
fucking SEE? it's like goddamn clockwork.

>>24774650
you're not my type IMO and your lack of confidence makes you less attractive

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>>24774650
I want to rape your corpse

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>>24775473
also you misunderstand what a troll is.

I don't even know if this shit will help you at all, B, but hopefully it'll poke a hole in the shroud you cover yourself with. I had to dig for these so appreciate it,

I want you to pick out some of your favorites from what I'll post and then fucking read them every day. memorize them. make them your mantras. don't fucking fake it till you make it... make it until it fucking happens.

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>>24775553
2/?

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>>24775559
3/?

>>24775501
I just figure 7 is mildly attractive by most standards.


I don't expect to be found spectacular from everyone lol that's like 9/10 I just would like to see a couple 7s here and there

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>>24775563
4/?

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>>24775577
5/?

>>24775511
The fact that so many girls say you're not my type Irl is literally why I have no confidence. It's the famous last words.... whenever I did approach the same way >>24775501
Suggested, they always put it in hide terms... even if I was confident af, which I am except for in looks, you'd still not like me since I'm not your type. Sometime I feel like almost every girl thinks I'm not her type.

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>>24775584
6/?

you fucking remember courage wolf?

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>>24775590
7/?

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>>24775586
defeatist

that's a defeatist attitude

that's why you failed before you even started

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>>24775602
9/?

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>>24775604
10/?

>>24775602
How is it defeatist?! Girls literally come here to point out discouraging shit and then act like confidence will just naturally form


As if people do not understand how painful it really is for me

If I'm not your type just say why. I'm teed of gay guys hitting on me and girls rejecting me it's fucked up and I wish I was gay

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>>24775609
11/?

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>>24775612
I'm a hetero guy, that's why you're not my type...

you've already decided that if something isn't perfectly right it's doomed to fail from the start. that's false and it's defeatist.

I'm certain they do understand how painful it is... that's why they constantly troll you... to bring you down for their own amusement...

don't fucking let them win.

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>>24775519
you can rape mine after

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>>24775631
13/?

are you gonna read these every goddamn day? or are you going to decide that it won't make a difference before you even try it.

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>>24775640
14/?

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>>24775643
15/?

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>>24775648
16/?

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>>24775650
a sweet haircut, a good camera, and the right angle can make 1000X the difference

>>24774650
hey brandon get on skype

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>>24775664
18/?

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>>24775668
19/?

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>>24775674
20/?

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>>24775679
21/?

>>24775667
I cannot as I wake up for work in leas than 5 hours

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>>24775691
22/?

>>24775664
Simply delusional.

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>>24775695
23/?

>>24775650
Basically explains my 4/10hood

Fucking hate being told to be confident. It makes zero difference

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>>24775696
said nobody who ever achieved anything worthy of praise

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>>24775702
garbage attitude. if you approach the situation with a better attitude the situation will improve.

>>24775709
25/?

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>>24775718
26/?

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27/?

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28/?

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>>24775735
29/?

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>>24775740
30/?

>>24775718
How? Lol girls obviously expect better if they are all swiping me as nope in my entire area. Man, I get attitude matters. How can I make it positive right now?

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>>24775743
31/?

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>>24775749
Start by thinking positively right now. Changes don't happen instantaneously, especially not the kinds of changes that have taken place for so long within you - your thoughts and feelings and actions etc are all constantly shaping your brain physically and physiologically, making you more likely to feel and think and act that way again. you've got to force it until it becomes you. don't fucking fake it, just make it.

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>>24775768
33/?

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34/?

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>>24775780
35/?

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36/?

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>>24775790
37/?

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>>24775795
38/?

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>>24775798
39/?

>>24774650
If this is you... There's nothing wrong with how you look. You're kinda cute. Photo looks like maybe you have acne, so if so... Try to get it treated but I've dated dudes with acne and I'm not the only girl who's done that.

The problem is probably your approach or your profile being blank and boring. No offense. Girls get shitloads of messages and in my experience, a lot of guys focus so hard on not saying something stupid to a girl they want to try to get together with that they end up not saying much of anything. Don't do that. Seriously... As long as you don't send a lameass pickup line, a dick pic, or a message about how you want her to come into a locked basement so you can get to know each other and find out if you have a soul deep connection, being slightly awkward isn't as bad as being boring. Give me crap like you would a friend, or ask me questions or tell me what song you just listened to or something. Your personality is probably fine, but a lot of guys hide who they are from girls and then it's just this weird forest of dudes who want to fuck you and maybe fill a hole in their soul or something.

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>>24775802
40/?

>>24775768
Mentality cannot influence physicality

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>>24775806
41/41

That's all I've got stored, but you can find million more on the internet if you choose to use this sort of thing as your anchor.

Stop allowing yourself to accept defeat before you even try.
Stop worrying what other people think of you.
Stop trying to get laid all of the time.
Start focusing on developing yourself, your person.
Start being active in changing the things you are unsatisfied with.
Start wanting.
And start fucking reciting stuff like this to yourself every day because it works.

>>24775443
Find something you have in common with the girl and try to talk to her about it.

Ask for advice on something neutral, maybe. Avoid talking about how much you would like a date or anything. Maybe after you've talked back and forth for a while you can compliment her on something... If you do that it shouldn't be too sexual sounding, but appearance based compliments are okay... Telling her she has pretty eyes or a cool haircut or you like the necklace she's wearing or something is better than telling her she's super sexy.

If you were trying to make friendly small talk with a co-worker or another dude, what would you say?

>>24775820
that's complete horseshit and if you have access to any neurology journals you'll be able to find out such for yourself...

or you can mire in your belief and keep doing what you're currently doing.

I'm not going to fix you, and i'm not going to give you the tools to fix you, I'm just telling you that the tools are real and they work if you make them work.

>>24775842
you can actually even google it, and find lots of pop-science pieces and the like that are reasonably accurate and link to their sources, which are often peer-reviewed pubs

aight I'm going to bed.

Thanks for helping me and giving useful information to take to heart. I appreciate it and will put it to use.

>>24775839
Just ask what they did over the weekend or if they've been watching any of the good shows on currently, something like that. Small conversation that helps get to know one another and see if we are interested in each other.It depends on the context of the day. I wouldn't just immidiately ask for a date or want one without like talking for a bit. I'm not at a job with coworkers around my age tho and am in a new area. It's hard to introduce myself to new people.

>>24774650
If you are unable to get women to notice you based on looks on charm....

Women are attracted to success. Be successful, look successful and they swarm you like flies. How you think Bill Gates got his wife? His winning charm?

>>24776111
I am successful and charming! I literally here I have a "halo" effect, idk. I don't think I'm the greatest thing ever, but I am not a piece of shit and I have accomplished a lot. I just completely fail at attracting girls to the point of even wanting to spend time talking to me. I can't get anywhere and it really bothers me. I'm certain it's not a lack of charm or charisma.

>>24774650
you look insecure and sick, that is mostly it. like suffering has been frozen into your face.
there is a way out. allow it.
try techniques from art therapy, I love them

>>24776136
The only way out of it is to meet a girl that would talk to me? :(

This is my revenge.