>virgin social So here's an idea Instead of crying and

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I don't mind at all anon, sex is just icing on the cake.
The cake being another human being who likes you enough to be in a relationship with you, and personally I am very hungry, a cake is a cake to me, without icing or not. If that makes sense. I just want to eat.

I think waiting for marriage is a little old-fashioned though, but there's nothing wrong with that, I mean it's about time people started to counter-culture the whole sex culture thing.

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I lost my virginity to a prostitute a few weeks ago because people kept telling me to and it would make me not see sex as a big deal or make me more confident.

No one listen to these types of people because are usually people who don't actually understand these situations. Unless your only interest is strictly experiencing the act of sex just don't do it.


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I stopped giving a shit about my appearance. I'm never going to cut my hair again and I stopped working out.
>>23630404
People usually aren't whining though as far as I can tell.

>>23630859

also 27/M

>>23630859
Usually these types of guys don't really value a relationship, they just want sex and to use somebody for the sex but I think there's a lot of us that just want to the loneliness to end and that is a long term thing, sex isn't going to change that.

>I'm never going to cut my hair again
Good to hear, I am also growing my hair. It could do with a good because one side seems different to the other, people who cut my hair are so fucking shit its beyond me, they can't one side the same as the other, or they do and then a week later their botch job becomes clearer as my hair grows.
Part of me wants to cut it because it's going to do my head in while it grows, but then part of me knows I should just leave it.
Barbers = Barbarism to your hair, I truly feel like hair is not something which should be cut often.
I just wish I had this opinion years ago.

>>23630911
Well my lack of a hair cut is more simple: People keep telling me I would probably be more attractive with a different haircut no matter how I get my haircut. I've tried damn near every configuration that I can think or that has been suggested and to me I just don't really except for how other people perceive it.

But if people are going to just tell me it's bad no matter what then there's no sense in worrying about it really.

And "usually" I don't know about that. I mean I'm ok with just sex and that's why it was easy for me to do the prostitute thing even though it was never really what I wanted. But even then I'd rather it be with someone who is mutually attracted to me at least on any level at all. But people told me that was unlikely I guess. I honestly can't fathom how these interactions work and I've tried and asked questions. Probing people just usually irritates them or gets the standard suggestion of "be more confident" but I don't think I'm lacking oncfidence. Most of the women I know irl are people I met online because Ihave trouble talking to people outside the internet. But a lot of them tell me I don't seem to be lacking self-esteem at all. I just seem to have poorly developed social skills I guess.

For me it's not really loneliness. That's something I can live with. Especially if I even just have someone to talk with occasionalyl because I have zero friends or social interaction no matter how hard I go out of my way. My main interest in sex is just having a high sex drive with no outlet. But that's just a biological urge and shouldn't be any indication that I or someone like me isn't interested in getting to know people.

I'd rather actually get to know people but I'm at an age where I feel like I missed out on exploring my options/playing the field as most people seem to. Plus these days most people I know seem to be talking to or dating multiple casually if they date at all. At least short term until they find someone they really like.

This is the slowest start to one of these threads I've seen yet.

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28/utah

>>23631321
don't you get tired of spamming pics of him in literally every single thread and sometimes making threads yourself

>>23631357
He's a meme

>>23631357
Quit being jelly of the king of soc

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Already posted in the last thread, but who gives a crap.

German, in my 20s with height being in the 180s (cm), decent-looking.Technically not a virgin since last year, but having had sex a few dozen times doesn't change the fact that I have never had a long relationship with someone I really loved and could relate to.

Reason for all of this is that I am a late bloomer who moved out the parents house and got his first job just 2 years ago. now studying master's degree in STEM field. Also I cannot do smalltalk for shit. Only hard topics like movies, relationships/psychology, politics, technology.

I would really love having some first time experiences (like summer holidays with a girlfriend, hiking or something) with a girl who is inexperienced or didnt have a bf for a long time. but that is just my idea of a girl who I think I would get along with. If you are female and think we could be friends or more, feel free to mail me.

I am ok with an online-freind for now too and I have a drivers license, so distance is not much of a problem. my mail is [email protected]

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25/M, Just not particularly interested.

Spent some time posting a few annecdotes in yesterday's thread.

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religious male waiting for marriage reporting in
I know i have to be super hot just to get an ugly virgin. that's ok though. take an ugly virgin over a hot slut any day. just want to be a father and a husband.
>on my wedding night I want to spank my bride before penetration so I can say I spanked a virgin
>and twirl my mustache

be me around 30, go to strip club Sunday night, make out with hot stripper in champagne room, next day call off work, order an escort, she is ok looking but not great, make out get some head, can't get hard because she just doesn't turn me on, or too nervous, say fuck it, go home jerk it, feels like I got laid, don't care anymore. But it was literally all I needed to break the stigma of being a virgin, honestly changed me for the better

20 y/o male waiting until I'm in a relationship with someone I trust (probably future wife)
Sometimes sexually frustrated but usually just crave the attention of someone more through conversation
I've had the opportunity to have sex twice now but pretty much said no both times. One night stands do not appeal to me
The thing is I'm relatively normal and capable of talking to girls, but deep down have insecurities that stop me ever starting actual relationships

>>23630454
you sound like a lovely man :)

girls dont post in these threads do they?

>>23634470
Ther'es usually one or two per thread. Lately there's been a real playful redhead.

>>23635675
You mean the chubby one with the cute face?

Ever seen one from Germany posting here?

>>23632690
thanks

24/F

yep waiting for that special someone and that special day after getting married. Glad to know i'm not alone.

>>23635750
hope that happen b4 ur 30s

25/m/straight/Berlin/Germany

7.5-8/10 according to rate threads :3

>>23635752
I hope so too. if i did find the guy though i would most likely would want to marry them right away haha.

>>23635777
Dunno about other guys but marriage is a big turn off for me, that being said I hope you find your man
nice trips btw

>>23635790
aw that sucks. well thanks anyway. May i ask why that would turn you off?

>>23635814
On this thread it's probably because he's scared you'd get annoyed at him jacking off to cartoon children, since there's no hope of him getting with another woman besides his wife

>>23635830
ha. that would be funny if that was the case. I shlick to cartoons sometimes when i'm in a certain mood.

>>23635814
Huge commitment, I would have to live with the person for years before marrying, to make sure I don't goof and even then I don't think marriage is necessary.

>>23635750
Respect for that! Too few girls have the staying power to stick with that resolution, hope it works out for you!

That's definitely something I'd be looking for in a girl, sex without commitment doesn't appeal to me.

>>23634470
Yeah, there are usually a few

>>23635790
Yeah, I agree. I'm not against a long term relationship if I like someone. But I honestly don't see the point in marriage and most people I know can't give me a good reason other than a tax break. But for me I don't have enough money to begin with for that to matter.

I don't even see why not getting married has to mean people don't love each other. My parents were together until I was like 7 or 8 and had been for a couple years before I was born. They never got married. My mom has been married and divorced though

Marriage just doesn't really seem important. I don't feel like it means as much as people act like or say it does

Not to say I would never get married if I liked someone and they really really wanted to(although I'd have to really like them). But they'd have to understand that I feel this way about it and why.

It's a relic of religious beliefs that I also don't subscribe to on top of all that.

>>23635907
>sex without commitment doesn't appeal to me.
it doesn't appeal to me either. if i'm going to give my body and soul to someone i have to know they are willing to commit long term.

I'm probably going to be like this for a while
built up the idea over time that all of my firsts I haven't reached yet need to be extremely special to compensate with me not losing them for so long
Marriage is also pretty much out of the question since it looks to me like a trap
I've seen family members and friends get trapped in marriage, and all of a sudden, they have to drop their interests and hobbies, along with a large portion of their friends, goals, and dreams to make everything in line with what their wife wants

don't want a baby? too bad, because her biological clock is ticking and she wants to tie you down even more to her as her looks fade and you realize even more how bland and boring her personality is, so you're having a baby, 2 even

honestly though, at this point, imagining myself in a relationships, holding hands, kissing, or having sex seems so strange and out of character for me that I probably won't have to worry about any of this and I'll be able to just do what I want by myself for the rest of my life

>>23636049
that sounds horrible although i know cases like that exist. Honestly i know a lot of women who want children. it's in their nature and there is nothing wrong with that. But to trap someone to marriage just for that is just cruel and dishonest. Men shouldn't drop their hobbies just because their wives make them.

>>23636078
I mean, that's exactly what happened with a couple of my friends and is happening to my brother
>brother is really into guns and vapes
>used to be a fratboy
>meets fat girl with huge tits
>they start dating, get somewhat serious but she's not a "bring home to your family" girl, she's a fuckdoll to him
>eventually he has us meet her
>she's ok but constantly talks shit about me being inexperienced and creepy, and constantly bragging about her past bfs
>goes into a rage whenever his past gfs are brought up
>eventually he's about to dump her becasue he thinks he can do better
>she proposes to him
>he was drunk, so he agreed
>now, she's making him give up his hobbies, not allowed to see me very often anymore
>she keeps talking about having kids as soon as her birth control runs out
>when I brought up the possibility of a pre-nuptual to protect the both of them, she went into a rage about how I was trying to paint her as a gold digger
>wasn't allowed in their house for 2 weeks after that
it seriously happens more than you think
there's a lot of women who act interesting and nice and pretty, but just want some guy to marry them so they can stop trying, stop working, and be a lazy bitch that pumps out kids

I seriously think that's why so many guys aren't getting married, even the ones in here, the most desperate guys you can think of are hesitant to get married even if it means they can get a girl

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>>23636097

That poor bastard needs to get out while he still can.

>>23636097
is he looking for anything serious now? just curious. Never been into the vapes/fratboys type but guns are cool. still, they should not be together. idk what kind of relationship that is. there are good women out there.

>>23636121
no, he wasn't, he was trying to end it with her but she got him almost blackout drunk and proposed to him so he'd say yes
unfortunately, she's cutting him off from us and brainwashing him, so there's nothing to do at this point
that's the trap, once he gets married to her, and they pool their accounts and paychecks like she wants, he's going to have to pay for all her shit and her brother's drug addiction, and if he leaves, he gets fucked over by alimony and child support

>NAWALT
doesn't really matter though, this is what's happening in my life, other guys have seen the same thing happen to their friends and family
that's why guys ITT and IRL don't want to get married anymore, you see it happen enough, and you realize it's not worth the risk to hope you pick the few women who aren't going to completely divorce-rape you and manipulate you for such a small payoff

>>23636137
i'm so sorry that is happening to you. Please don't let that distort your perception of women. this society has lost respect for one another. I don't know what is gonna happen in five years.

Pretty sure I don't want to get married just because I don't really understand the point of it.

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>>23635750
I am 43 and still waiting for the right woman. You are an amateur.

>>23636928

Damn that's some impressive dedication

I'm only 27 and I already gave up.

>>23636039
Yeah, that mentality is pretty rare from what I've seen;/I'm glad to find a kindred soul! I hate the "it's just sex why make such a big deal" attitude most people have, I don't care what those people do in their time, but to me it's intimately tied to commitment and it's frustrating to have people scoff at that.

>>23636928
phew that is a lot of time.

>>23637051
yes. to me that is something i can't just brush off. I really want to connect with someone on a deep level. as cheesy as that sounds. To find that kindred soul in someone else is really nice to have.

>>23637051
>>23637498
Can understand the commitment part but I'd always want to have sex with someone before determining whether or not I'd like to be with them for life.

Some people just aren't sexually compatible.

>>23637517
I mean it would be cool to be with and marry a male virgin and see where that goes. we would start at 0 and work our way into what we find sexual incompatible with each other. I think that's sexy. if the man i marry is not a virgin, and lets say we get married and we find out that we are not sexually compatible, then he can leave if he wants. I wouldn't want to divorce because that just sucks and i did not marry him for sex, but if he would want to leave me then he is free to do whatever he wants. But i would try my best not to give up desu.

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King Ryan enters the thread

Here's a new (probably unflattering) pic of how I usually look aside from wearing a hat (lets just say I got shit luck when it came to getting a hairline,,,)

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>>23637615
This being the pic I usually post around here

>>23637621
how old are you?

>>23637633
18, why?

>>23637639
cool. just thought you were a little older. not that it's a bad thing. you are pretty cute btw. Got that boy next door look haha.

>>23637517
I'm not sure about that. I feel like the enjoyable part for me will be experiencing it together with someone I love. Sex is pretty emotionally linked, I can't imagine not being able to make it work. And as a male virgin I wouldn't know of I wasn't compatible anyways, I can't imagine I wouldn't enjoy it more than self induced orgasm.

>>23637498
That's not really cheesy. I'm the same way, it's not all romance, relationships take a lot of work to maintain, and there's a certain amount of "business" stuff to deal with. I know that, but the reason I want to put in all that work is so that I can have that lasting bond. I want someone I can share life with, even during the times when life is hard.

>>23637771
>That's not really cheesy. I'm the same way, it's not all romance, relationships take a lot of work to maintain, and there's a certain amount of "business" stuff to deal with. I know that, but the reason I want to put in all that work is so that I can have that lasting bond. I want someone I can share life with, even during the times when life is hard.

yes this so much.

>>23637798
Yes exactly. I think a reason a lot of marriages fail is because people don't talk about the important "business" end (kids, money/career goals/debt, boundaries) and are too emotional.

>>23637807
considering how this generation handles things, yea. marriage aint no walk in the park. And a lot of people give in to temptations that lead to destruction in their lives.

>>23637828
I like you. It's been reassuring to read all your posts.

>>23637807
Yeah, most people get hung up on the romance and "passion" and don't recognize that you need a strong foundation, that's part of the reason divorce is so common. I can't ever imagine divorcing, I would hate myself.

>>23637798
Guess we really are like minds! Out of curiosity whereabouts do you live? Just vaguely, I haven't met many people with comparable ideologies here (Northeastern US). But it's a pretty liberal area so that's no real suprise.

>>23637840
glad i can reassure someone. don't lose hope!

>>23637844
>Guess we really are like minds! Out of curiosity whereabouts do you live? Just vaguely, I haven't met many people with comparable ideologies here (Northeastern US). But it's a pretty liberal area so that's no real suprise.

i live around miami. it is pretty liberal here especially miami beach. but that doesn't stop me from having outdated principles. I think i was born in the wrong time period haha. i'm not perfect but i try.

>>23637895
>but that doesn't stop me from having outdated principles. I think i was born in the wrong time period haha. i'm not perfect but i try.
Well as we both said the modern values aren't working out for anyone. Most marriages end in divorce these days and it's just sad.

Can't wait for my horribly awkward wedding night desu. Fantasize about how shy she'll be lol

>>23637895
Yeah the outdated principals things really rings true. It's especially awkward in college, girls and guys just don't seem to have any self-respect(or restraint) and it's majorly disheartening. I'm actually really reassured after talking with you. I logically know there are people like us out there, but sometimes it's just hard to believe as much. So thank you!

>>23637921
>Can't wait for my horribly awkward wedding night desu. Fantasize about how shy she'll be lol
I actually love that. The clumsiness and experiencing it for the first time together really sell me on waiting. It just feels so much more sincere that way.

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Hai, I am Denny R. I am an educated 28 year old Asian male living in London however I am originally from Scotland. I am a math and physics geek with a wild side I desperately want to release. I like to fantasize about having a cute girl fuck me up the asshole. Just the thought of a woman pegging me drive my mind crazy with excitement. By the way, I am still a virgin. Yup, I am almost wizard status here. I don't really know why but I haven't had any luck so far in the love department. I am not attracted to or the least bit interested in Asian women in anyway. I have mommy issues so my dislike of Asian women might have something to do with that. Sadly, I am near the point in accepting the reality I will be a virgin forever. Here I am thinking about how enjoyable it would be getting pegged and yet I have never even kissed a woman. The peg thing is so far away for me. :-(

Pic related: It's me!

>>23637922
no problem. i want to also think that there men who think the same out there. those women that use and exploit men are foolish and have no value whatsoever. i'm ashamed of being a woman because of so many crazies that are out there doing things that i'm actually afraid to do. they are the product from the results of sexual liberation movement and extreme independence.

>>23637921
>Can't wait for my horribly awkward wedding night desu. Fantasize about how shy she'll be lol

That is exactly how i would feel at my wedding night. shy..real shy and awkward.

Waiting for marriage, expect the same from a woman. Difficult, frustrating, someone I was very interested in made a big scene on fb last year and I was teased pretty bad for a while, also called sexist lol. I feel that I'll bond better with my wife this way and I do believe in God.

>>23637987
>shy..real shy and awkward
<3 I just imagine her blushing soooo red and looking at the floor

>>23638035
great! i also think the same. why on earth were you called sexist? is it because you follow the bible?

>>23638045
would also blush and look to floor haha. i would be nervous as hell.

>>23637980
You should never be ashamed to be a woman. Instead you should be proud that you're a good woman. I don't really know about the extreme independence either, a lot of the girls doing crazy bullshit are actually very emotionally dependant and need lots of attention.

I'm probably a bit biased though, my mom is pretty much the most independent person I know, just not in the same way. She's the opposite of crazy liberals in that she's very conservative but she just does her own thing. She's a strange lady, Pharmacist super intelligent, bit of a space case, and just totally nonreliant. She chooses to work with my dad, but it's as equals not reliance. I feel like the liberal movement preaches things like independence, but when you actually analyze the girls that follow those beliefs they never seem to actually be self-reliant or independent and tend to have esteem issues.

I'm basically babbling so to summarize never feel bad for what someone else has done, and liberals are far less independent than they seem. The trepidation you seem to feel is more normal, what they do isn't stable in any way shape or form.

>>23638058
Awww sweetie. So cuddly in here. I think about putting my head on chest to hear how fast her heart is beating. All these feels
.>>23638055
"A woman's past is none of your business". Like I'm just holding her to the same standard as myself. And yeah our generation hates religion.

>>23638099
I try not to generalize but I really hate our generation. I wish there was an easier way to find people that were like minded.

There's no reason you can't hold someone to a standard you meet yourself. It's common sense, but God knows logic doesn't help.

>>23638072
true. it could be a lot of factors. most of them don't research the truth about feminism and "liberation movement". they have been duped into thinking they have it all and they really don't because that is not really their purpose. sure there are exceptions, but still. I think men and woman are too destructive mentally, physically, and spiritually.

>>23638099
>Awww sweetie. So cuddly in here. I think about putting my head on chest to hear how fast her heart is beating. All these feels

these feeelssss

>>23638115
As cliche it may be instant gratification is the real killer. People aren't willing to put in the work it takes to make a relationship work. Instead they just have sex and act like it's a good thing. In reality all it does is hurt them. Even biologically sex messes up a lot, there's a tom of hormones involved, humans just weren't designed for casual sex and that usually shows through all the psychological effects. There's no such thing as "just sex".

It takes time, patience, and effort to create. But only moments to destroy. I completely agree, most people don't even realize the degree of destruction they cause. It's depressing frankly.

This just furthers my resolve to find someone I can create something beautiful and worthwhile with. Even if it's quite the search.

>>23638099
>"A woman's past is none of your business". Like I'm just holding her to the same standard as myself. And yeah our generation hates religion.

I more into having a relationship with God rather than being into organized religion. Although being in a community with people of like minds like this is not wrong. our generation is more and more losing touch with God and we have suffered because of it. That's how i see it. I think if you are going to marry her, then it is your business or it is worth to at least know where she has been right? indulging ourselves is never good. i imagine how people would act, if suddenly, technology stops working and the meat goes bad haha. people will lose their minds.

>>23638130
Oh god I could go on for days... Like she's so shaky she can't take off her bra, or her laying on my chest after. What are your feeliest feels

>>23638142
you're overthinking this to an extreme.
all life on earth has 2 prime directives, doesn't matter if you're an iguana or a walnut tree:

1. protect your physical form
2. make more of yourself

how people going about doing those 2 things is up to them. Someone could be just as critical of you for seeking deeper sexual connections as you are of them for going about it casually.
please understand that you're perspective is only one of a vast spectrum of vantage points.
now go get laid, jeez.

>>23638045
>>23638058
>>23638099
You guys are adorable. I'm glad the general is so positive for once, usually it feels desolate.

>>23638174
I'm not seeing any scenario where the current system benefits females in either of those regards.

Looking exclusively at female biology it's pretty apparent that humans genetically developed for monogamy.

>>23638142
yes, i keep telling people this, but for some reason they do not think anything bad of it. sex is spiritual as well as emotional. people do not realize they are doing soul ties with other people. and so on and so on. the spirit gets hurt and everything else turn upside down.

>>23638176
i'm glad too

>>23638185
I usually don't approach it from a spiritual perspective, spirituality is unique to each person. It means a lot to me spiritually but may not mean the same to others.

But the effects are obvious even if you look at strictly from a psychological or biological perspective. There's just no denying that sex matters. Yet people deny it nonetheless... It's just sad.

>>23638176
Yeah I hope other girls are encouraged by the warm cuddly vibes too

>>23638182

I mean for one thing, nobody knows why humans are monogamous. one theory is actually that having fewer partners limited to spread of sexually transmitted disease.
but its a moot point honestly because lifestyle and biology are not always a reflection of each other, both are in a constant state of flux.
We no longer live a world where people are warding off saber tooth tigers and have a 30 year life expectancy, so our behaviors have changed.
behavioral changes influence biology and vice versa. Its possible that the long gestation period and helplessness of human infants played a role in monogamy but that was long before contraceptives, overpopulation, etc.
In the world we now live in, sex is primarily for pleasure, not reproduction.
So I guess my point is that the desire for reproductive behavior exists in all living things, as its the second most basal need and always has been, but the fact is that modern humans predominantly engage in sex nowadays specifically for gratification... so whether or not monogamy was evolved into us in the past is only moderately relevant.
the spectrum has broadened significantly.
Your opinion is valid but no more so than anyone else's on the topic, be careful approaching cultural norms strictly from a biological perspective... all life is in a constant state of behavioral and biological flux.

>>23638201
very true. people deny it because they want to keep living their destructive lifestyle.

>>23638221
>all life is in a constant state of behavioral and biological flux.
Well said. You are absolutely correct.

I tend towards biology because I work in science. Birds are an especially interesting model, they evolve different features based on sexuality. Many birds are polygamous, while some are monogamous (there are also some weird ass hybrids, birds are bizzare) But it's abundantly clear which tend towards each because they develop advantages. Humans are the same way, the difference is that birds don't break from their nature, there's no advantage, and often a severe disadvantage.

It's actually probably not the best topic for equality though. Men aren't actually very well designed for monogamy (or at all) women are. Just Oxytocin is enough to demonstrate that. It causes "bonding" between all humans with intimate contact. The kicker; Estrogen amplifies the effect, Testosterone resists it. So women bond very intimately with their children (it's core to lactation) and their "mates" (heavy release during sex).

That's without even getting into the gestation period and other factors affecting sex.

I don't have an issue with people doing as they please, but I don't like people acting like it's normal. Being fat is biologically disadvantageous. I don't have a problem with people being fat, I do have a problem with people refusing to acknowledge the repercussions of being fat. This is the same thing. I don't have a problem with little choosing to have sex, it's pleasurable. I DO have a problem with people acting like there are no repercussions. Sorry if I can't articulate this well, it's a bit convoluted.

oh, now I remember why these threads aren't like this
it quickly devolves into a hugbox for the tumblr people to act like they have some moral and intellectual high ground over everyone else

>>23638269
Pretty much, it's much easier to disregard that are inconvenient than to deal with them headfirst.

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>>23638171
>What are your feeliest feels
Not her but sometimes I look at bridal lingerie for the feels. I haven't had a bf in a while but I remember my first was so shaky when we kissed the first time and I imagine that feeling when he sees me naked <3

>>23638286
What part of the discussion doesn't suit you? It's much more interesting if people provide (and support) opposing opinions.

>>23638171
hugging me tightly afterwards. telling me i'm cute. him being nervous and shaking which is also cute. being lost in pleasure and tranquility.

>>23638302
this is my exact body type

>>23638356
I want to hold you in my arms tonight

>>23638351
Aww yeah I would be shaky too. Fumbling my tie and stuff. Yaaaas I would squeeze her so tight.
>eyes so wide seeing first penis

>>23638382
>Fumbling my tie and stuff
>>23638171
>she's so shaky she can't take off her bra

:3 I can't even

Night friends. I guess I'll leave an email since I'm basically mid discussion with someone. [email protected]

>>23638221
Sorry if you're still around I'm exhausted. Thanks for the discussion it was interesting. If you feel like continuing hit me up. I'll check in the morning too for a response.

>>23638351
Best of luck kindred soul. I'll catch you some other time.

Also this night one marriage discussion is great guys. Very cute!

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>>23638382
>eyes so wide seeing first penis
omg yes ;-;

>>23638382
yes my eyes would be wide open. Then i would be consumed with hunger if you know what i mean. ;)

will post more feels if this thread doesn't die.
>how i want my first time to be
skip to 32:56
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quMHYbpB6uE
anyone feel the same?

>>23638653
Please post all the feels. Laying in bed just dreaming about it rn. It's so nice to hear a girl's view <3

Another thing I think about is as we're undressing she comes in for a hug, so scared. Feel our bare skin touch for the first time.

Or like she takes off her bra but keeps her hands over her nipples out of shyness. Lol I don't want to get super lewd though I like how sweet this thread is don't want to spoil it.

Barely whispering "I love you"

Oh and I would be soooo worried about hurting her.
>d-d-does it hurt
>yes but I can take it

Hope there's more warm fuzzies I'll be back in the morning

One last bump can't sleep

>>23638099
>our generation hates religion.

I think it's more to do with entitlement, it's been happening for years, people want to do whatever they want to do and be free from judgement, responsibility and be without consequence, of course they hate religion because religion challenges them in direction opposition to their own beliefs.

I don't follow any one religion but I respect religion and am more of a student of all religions than one in particular.

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Why will nobody love me reeeeeeeeeeee

Seriously though, I want to meet the right person but I still feel lonely, not gonna lie. Being a kv sucks too but sometimes I just say, "fuck it." Unfortunately since I'm not a female noone will give a fuck, but that's 4chan for ya.

>>23638718
more like, i take off my bra and i look away out of shyness and he grabs my jaw and leans in for a kiss. mmmm.

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I'm 19, my family raised me in what you can call "traditional" and over-protective way, that, and a plethora of mental issues made me what I am. A bitter cynical friendless virgin.

(I plan to lose it in marriage, not like that's going to ever happen.)

>>23639614
>>23640238
beta af

>>23640238
mental issues?
and yea my parents also raised me way to over-protective and it screwed me up a bit. sheltered too.

>>23640238
I'd stick a bone in ya

>>23640254
Aye, and seeing how western society is, I'm quite proud of it.

>>23640238
do you have any throwaway contact info? I want to hear more of your views on the world

>>23640238
I had the same issue. I feel like now im behind in everything and like im prepared for a world that doesnt exist anymore.

>>23640324

Skype:
chernyvolk

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>>23640238
>>23640331

The majority can easily be wrong, chaps, I wouldn't worry too much about it.

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I'm genetic garbage. I've never even had a girl remotely interested in me, let alone anything like gfs, dates, kissing, sex. And it will NEVER happen.

One of these days I'll work up the motivation to hang myself.

>>23640532
have u considered becoming a rent boy?
a lot of men would pay good money to hook up with u

>>23640541
"You know you're too old to be a rent boy? There's not a big market for rent men."

- Mark Corrigan

>>23640545
i think u underestimate the strength of red fetishism
also moar pls with smiling and no shirt if possible

>>23640532
you are cute

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Holy shit this is the cutest thread ever I love these wedding feels wanna snuggle you all

Mine is like... investigating a pussy the first time lol. Poking feeling tasting, spread it open look inside, fingers in, lick it like hmmmm. All super shaky lol. Everyone's talking about being shaky it's adorable

>>23639645
<3
>i look away out of shyness and he grabs my jaw
and say "look at me" and her eyes are watery and she's bright bright red
>>23640262
<3

>>23640759
>"look at me"
hnnnnng keep looking away out of embarrassment

>>23640801
>hnnnnng keep looking away out of embarrassment
noooooo *kiss forehead* look at me hun

or I'm behind her trying to get her bra off and I'm like "how does this work" and she's too shy to even answer
or like
she's about to give me head. puts her mouth on it and comes back up "am I doing it right?" <333
goes down and I tell her to look up at me and all that vulnerability in he eyes
/2lewd

>>23640863
>the moment i surrender during penetration
>doesn't look at the face but at what he is doing
i would die yes

>>23640238
>mental issues
>bitter
>cynical
>friendless
>virgin

So you're just like every other poster on /soc/.

>>23640890
That's not true.
The majority here are cancerous normalfags and a few failed normies, types like me are extremely rare here, it's much easier to find them on /r9k/.

>>23640912
we doesn't want you, we have enough teenage attention whores shitting up our threads
t. r9k

>>23640912
Yeah that's /r9k/ in a nutshell. If you browse both like I (and probably you) do the difference is really apparent.

>>23640912
Oh I suppose. I've never really read or posted on /r9k/ because the threads

I was just correcting someone skype the other day about this though. People on /soc/ aren't normies. They are failed wannabe normies. Even the super good looking ones are only here for the most part because they can barely function in real life.

I guess not everyone here is exactly like that though. I'm probably biased because all those bullets fit me as well.

>>23640925
*because the threads there never really interested me the couple times I looked at it.

Anyone around? The thread's close to death.

>>23641566
I would post myself just to make people laugh.
But I'm not into that self pity/deprecation shit.

...Bump

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>>23640889
>>23640863
>>23640801
>>23640238
>>23638725
>>23638558
>>23638395
>>23638356
>>23637987
>>23638035
>>23637621

thread of the year desu

I don't even want to get laid, I know sex is overrated, I just want a decent relationship and I just want to not be a virgin for the sake of saying I'm not one, you know? But I guess fuck me, right?

>>23641702
kek

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>>23640889
ohmygosh bae

>Anyone around?

>>23642688
Always

>>23642295
mmmmmmmmmmmm

>>23642732
You're the biggest sweetheart

26 year old guy here
I kept my virginity until I was 23 but not for religious reasons. I have trouble connecting with people and I can't bring myself to have sex with someone unless there is commitment and love.
Turns out the girl I was going to marry was a terrible person and cheated on me. Feels like I wasted it desu :\

>>23642748
>desu

where the fuck did that come from?

>>23642774
It's been filtered for months

I do want to wait for marriage. I'm really worried about finding a good personality in a girl. Like other people gave the example of when the wife forces her husband to give up his hobbies. Or when you see them gain 70 pounds in the first year.

With everyone always getting divorced I'm just paranoid about getting treated like shit. But at the same time I don't want to go full degenerate either. Sigh.

>>23640238
That's a nice story but
>19
>girl
It's only a matter of time before some bad-boy sugar-coats your world, unleashes the berrying, and you are set for your expectant ride in the cock carousel.If you really do browse /r9k/, you should know better than anyone that what I'm saying is very true.

M/26-
I just lie about it around guys, nobody is going to know with the girls I've gone out with I didn't have sex with any of them. Also nice girls like the virgin guy thing, still most girls think I'm lying.

I know guys that have just had sex with one person and that's the person there still with.

I've had plenty of chances to get laid. I think pornography ruined my sexual desire and need for long term relationships. I've watched hardcore porn since I was 9. However I still have high morals, I wouldn't go for a one night stand or beg someone for sex. IDK, I'm just waiting for my life to be more stable than it is at the moment to find someone.

>>23643330
Yeah I can relate to all of this. On the one hand I really value family life and coming from a badly abusive home I want to be a good father instead of the shitlords my parents were.

But I have such a hard time trusting women. I don't know anyone over 40 who hasn't been divorced - friend's parents, older coworkers, older online friends, anyone. EVERY adult in my life has been divorced. And like you said, as the marriage goes on it seems like they want to bully you. One of my coworkers if someone asks "how's the wife treating you?" he answers with a smile "Like a diaper." (shitting all over him)

I know I know #notallwomen, >>23642732 is a total qt, but really that's the overwhelming majority in my experience. I honestly think it's just how their raised (throw tantrums to get whatever they want from daddy and grow up to throw tantrums at their husband) and a safer bet would be a non-white woman, or at least who grew up in a lower class household instead of being spoiled.

I'm sure I'll be called misogynist but that's whatever. Really men not wanting to get married are just protecting their own financial interest in a world with a 50% divorce rate.

But all these feels. Sensuous wedding night and white lace hnng. Coming home to a bunch of smiling kids at the dinner table. Hugs and "I love you daddy" and tucking them in at night. I want all that so bad.

>>23643653
Also for my age I don't look that old. My life will turn around by 27. If I can get a girlfriend who is a couple years younger and really good looking I'm ok with that. Most of the guys I know are with really ugly women who settled for little. Also sex isn't really something I care about. I don't think my first time having sex will be overwhelming. I think having a good job and the ability to support my self and my art hobbies is greater than having sex is at the moment.

>>23643653
>just lie about it
I tried and everyone saw through it lol. Oh well

>>23643775
Most guys think I'm good with women, I just don't look that bad. And most women assume I'm some male slut.

Well, this is stupid to post about. I'm an older virgin lady but I tell people I'm not a virgin because really I'm slutty enough looking not to be and it really doesn't fucking matter at all anyway. Lol @ all these people who really think it matters at all.

The reasons I am is probably only something other insane, unstable, and beta GIRLS could understand though.

I was molested at a young age and this simultaneously gave me a huge fear of and fascination in sex. I was a chronic masturbator at an early age, before I even started having periods. I would cum so hard several times a day. At the same time I was very shy around people and pretty much that's when my hermit behaviors started.

Now I barely ever fap though btw.

When I am actually around people and its a dude even to just hang out as friends the guy has to be next level beta. It has to be the type of guy who never says something sexual even as a joke, and gets embarrassed of those things. Like someone obviously a virgin and doesn't want to talk about it or look at those things. If he's not that or even worse than that I can't stand even being around men like even at a coffee shop or something normal like that.

It's not that I hate them. I just hate being around masculine men. Which in women it's fine though. Even the biggest bull dyke is fine. I just don't like it in men. It's only okay on the internet in anonymous chat groups when everyone assumes I'm a guy too. It's only when they know I'm a girl, so worse irl when they can see me. A guy hitting on me is NOT okay. Even if it's super lighthearted and what other people would think was okay. Like just saying I'm pretty. If it's an obvious gay guy, or something it's okay. But I literally automatically assume every dude is not just a rapist but probably a lying sociopath and stuff.

I'm also pretty afraid of everyone. But that's something probably more relate-able.

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Personally, I think I would love to get rid of my 22yo virginity. It would allow me to feel more normal, everyone at my age did this by now, some of them are having babies. And when I lurk on 4chan reading slut threads I just realize that I am like 10 years late in those stuff.

Sometimes I just think I hurt myself by not doing this. People do this all the time, they have fun and they enjoy it, most of then don't regret their sexual activities even when they partner was an asshole. It just seems that for them there are no downsides of such behavior. It feels bad not only because I am different than other people who openly think it's something bad (fuck you society), but it's also because I somehow think I just simply wasted all opportunities I had. There's so many virgin guys on 4chan who just want to get rid of their virginity but they never had a occasion for it. And yet there's me - a guy who had so many occasions and refused every single time. I just deny something that for many people is a dream.

Moreover, I am kind of person who also love knowledge. And this is actually 2nd reason why being a virgin sucks. I just basically have no idea how does it work when it comes to real closure. Some people I talk with sometimes talk about sexual closures they had and it just feels so weird because Im trying to understand them, just like I try to understand everything that I encounter in my life. And yet I cant just simply because I never actually experienced sex. At it's getting even worse when sometimes they ask me for some private advice. I got the concept - they're masturbating using each other, and they're feeling their bodies all this time and feel good because they like each other. But how does it feel in practice? I have no idea and that pisses me off.

> To be continued in next post...

Continuation from >>23643939

But regardless of those strong reasons I always avoid private contacts with girls. I never had sex, never kissed a girl, never even tried to hold a hand of a girl. A lot of people think Im just a gay or asexual, but that's not true. In fact I would love to release my primal instinct and just have sex at least once a day with a different girl. And the reason why Im so abstemious is not even racional. I just simply wish I could be loyal to women I'll love. I could have sex with girls that I dont feel attached to, but I dont think I would be proud of myself after doing such thing. Instead I think it would be awesome if I could someday sit with my love and honestly say "You were the only girl in my life". At the same time I am very afraid that my potential partner would rather have expierenced guy who can please her in bed, instead of some virgin weirdo who's trying to be "loyal" in the world that forgot about such values long time ago.

So yea, that's my story. What do you guys think about it?

>>23643942
I can relate to a big part of it.

>wish I could be loyal to women I'll love.
Sums up my feelings really well. There's a lot going on and a lot to think about but for me that's what it comes down to.

I've had opportunities but there's that lingering thought. Sure sex would be nice, like you I want to understand, but at the same time I want to be able to claim that I've only ever needed to be with one person.

Although in regards to the experience thing I'd just do my best to learn, it wouldn't bother me if she wanted someone experienced, I'd still be proud that I wasn't and that we could learn together (or she could teach me).

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>>23643922
It's not stupid at all. In fact you just shared very interesting point of view. I feel sorry hearing about the fact you were molested at a young age, every time I hear about such thing I wish I could kill those people with my own hands.

You assumptions about lying guys are somehow accurate. For most of guys the main goal is just to get a girl and use her as sperm container, so they'll use compliments to make this easy. But even if they intend to do so, it means they like the way you look like. So when a guy says that you're pretty, that's probably fact regardless of his motivations. But obviously keep in mind that there's another kind of guys out there, not only those powered by sex.

I think I know what you're feeling in some small part, but obviously I will never know in 100%. But from what you just said I can tell that you're in fact strong women. Yea you are afraid of other people, but just because it's not a good thing doesn't mean it's a bad thing. That's just the person you are. And Im sure you're a great person ^^

By the way can I ask how old are you? You called yourself a "older virgin lady" and now Im just curious what age we're actually talking about. ^_^

>>23643993
27, and thanks I needed to hear some of this.

On places like /soc/ it just feels like dudes are defending their gross need for sex. This was my post:
>>>23644056

I just don't understand how other dudes are really shaming dudes for NOT ONLY being interested in pussy.

I hate how society seems so backwards and I get a feeling like I just want to run away. Which makes me feel weak because I do feel like I've done my best to run away instead of fight for the nameless voiceless children still being molested. There are men being brainfucked into thinking they are somehow lesser because they are interested in intelligence and connection? That is all so fucked up its unbelievable.

>>23644074
Oh and I dont mean the need for sex is gross, I mean when people are so aggressively into it they just don't care where they get it from. When it becomes gross because its careless and pointless.

>>23637621
get a proper hairstyle yo. short on sides and long on top could suit you well

>>23644074
if you think there are men who are trying to stop rape, rather than just not raping like normal fucking people, no wonder you're a virgin

>>23643942
>>23643984
I feel similar, if I want to have sex one day, I'd like it to have it with the one I will spend the rest of my life with. I don't want to casually have it with someone and then have them leave me.

It's like I have 1 shot or chance and I do not want to "waste" it.

Also, I would like the other person to feel the same way. I want to be someone's first time, and their first time. But that's too much to ask, really. You can't change the past.

>>23644126
They stop rape by just not doing it though.

>>23644074
Yeah I totally understand where you're coming from. There's no problem with wanting sex. That's normal, but there's a major mentality issue today. Instead of wanting a relationship and having sex as a result people want sex and deal with relationships as a result.

It's sad but guys really are frowned upon for controlling their baser instincts and wanting "more" than just sex. I've never understood why choosing to wait is so blasphemous, it should demonstrate positive traits like restraint. But instead it's considered a negative, maybe because others don't want to feel like they need to control themselves.

>>23644153
>Also, I would like the other person to feel the same way. I want to be someone's first time, and their first time. But that's too much to ask, really. You can't change the past.
I'm with you 100%. I would heavily prefer that we were only with each other, but at the same time I don't want to be close minded and miss out on an amazing person because of it.

It probably wouldn't be so hard if there were more people like us to begin with, but that's a pipedream. :/

>>23644215
>but at the same time I don't want to be close minded and miss out on an amazing person because of it.
Yeah, and even if we find a girl we think is the one, we can't know if it's actually the one either.

There's people who find someone who they think is the one, have sex with them, just to realize after a while that it isn't the one because the relationship didn't work out. Then after that, they really find the one (atleast they think so) but now they already wasted their virginity...

It could happen to us too, unless we are really careful, and we wait a long time until we are certain it is the one, but that's probably not realistic.

>>23644215
That's right. There's not a lot of us. But regardless of small amount we're still strong and unlike other people, we're not doing anything against ourselves. That's what makes us special!

>>23644153
It's great to know that there's a lot of more people like me out there! :)

I hate feeling simultaneously terrified of hanging out with people and and desperate to as well.

>>23644371
I think you should stay isolated and not hang out with anyone in any way, because you're a devious liar who only has the capacity to hurt others.

>>23642735
Thank you!!

>>23643673
>But all these feels. Sensuous wedding night and white lace hnng. Coming home to a bunch of smiling kids at the dinner table. Hugs and "I love you daddy" and tucking them in at night. I want all that so bad.

this but as a mom. I think this "Hookup culture is the problem". there are guys that have sex easily because it's easily given to them. All those soul ties with a bunch of people is destructive to the soul and spirit.

>>23643770
pic? honestly curious

>>23644153
this. there should be an APP or something for people who want these kinds of relationships.

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26 and still a virgin. Actually not bothered about it any more.

>>23644181
Fuck, you're retarded.

>>23644607
Unfortunately apps like that tend to get taken over by fakers.

>>23644732

Just get a doctor to write certificates that a woman actually still has an intact hymen? They do that in the Arab World for a reason...
It's very misogynistic, but it works let's say 90% of the time.

>>23644770
I mean that's feasible for women. But if anything that will just increase the odds of non-virgin guys joining to virginity hunt.

>>23644776

Do assessment interviews with guys that want to join up? There are ways to make an app like this work, but it would need some filtering and prep work.

>>23644614
where do you live? just curious.

>>23644732
maybe a club with like minds? Man this is hard.

>>23644785
yes. maybe do a background check on relationship history? but how..

>>23644785
Yeah it would be really hard to develop, could be fruitful though.

>>23644800
It's always so difficult. It's not a great sign when the best way to meet people with this mindset seems to be right here.

>>23644846
>It's always so difficult. It's not a great sign when the best way to meet people with this mindset seems to be right here.

sigh i understand completely. Its really a curse being this way during this time period.

>>23644880
It's pretty rough. There's not much to be done but hold out and hope you find someone.

As much as it's a curse I wouldn't want to be any other way. I like being this way, I just wish it was more common.

>>23644932
wish there were more people like you

>>23644987
And I wish there were more people like you!

Who knows, maybe there's a whole bunch of people just like us, but with no way to meet. Places like this are nice to talk by hard to actually "meet" on. Although I'd certainly leave a contact if you or anyone else wanted to talk some more.

It's just impossible in real life. Especially since I live in MA which is pretty darn liberal.

>>23645063
Male or female? damn MA huh. why do the ones who have like minds live so far away haha

>>23645088
Male, and that's the other big problem here. People could be from anywhere, a good chunk won't even be in the US. Which makes it nearly impossible to find people nearby.

Although that's not a death sentence, I'm confident I could make distance work with the right person. It's just not ideal. :/

>>23645088
Almost forgot to ask; where are you from?

>>23645112
Florida and true that depends on the person like you said.

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Evening all, >>23631755 me again, how we doin'?

>>23645192
Yeah it would be too sad giving up because if distance. Maybe I'm just being too optimistic though, LDRs are supposed to be extremely hard.

>>23644579
Unless you are me or God you don't really know me or what you are talking about.

I've been hurt by people relentlessly in life. I might not have much, when it comes to talents, hobbies, looks, or anything superficial especially, but the fact that I always forgave and never retaliated or felt the need to hurt and use other is the only thing I'm proud of and makes me feel strong or good in life.

>>23645381
I don't give a shit about your opinion of yourself. You're a liar and generally despicable. You're trash.

>>23645386
Keep being angry friend.

>>23645398
I definitely will. Forever.

>>23645386
I'm despicable for telling people not to worry about their virginity status and that society is backwards and that there is more to live for than superficial things?

>>23645398
Ignore him. Just wanted to hop in and reinforce that there's nothing wrong with what you've been saying, you deserve to be proud, not many people can turn the other cheek like that.

>>23645405
Well stop being angry if it's negative, destructive, or hurts you or others around you. Respectively only you would know if it does. Otherwise you can keep being angry because there's lots of injustice to be angry about.

>>23645406
No. I know who you are, and I know that you're a liar. I hate liars.

>>23645407
Thanks, but it's okay I actually get it a lot. The fear that a woman is lying for whatever reason and it's kind of easy to see that it's directly correlated to years of neglect. When they see other people as enemies instead of people, and they think if they show any warm emotions that person must be lying for even more devious reasons than a normal person. Even if the they can't use logic to figure out why. It's all emotional reasoning for them. And it's understandable based on all that isolation or bullying or pressure or whatever. It becomes pretty hard to trust, right?

>>23645431
Well said.

Emotional reasoning can be really hard to deal with, it's hard to fault the person because there's always an experience behind it, but at the same time it can be really toxic.

I'm glad that you can take it in stride and be considerate of the other person's perspective. Respect.

>>23645431
I pretty much almost have this exact same thought process about everyone I get close to but even more with men because I look down on how I think they only want sex.

>>23645431
The only thing that still confounds me about you is how you manage to have the energy and interest to put so much effort into posting on /soc/. And lying on /soc/, at that. You must be really stuck in your bedroom.

>>23645445
Thanks again, you are very kind. Like I said it's because of the similarity between this and my own thinking and distrust of others:
>>23645447

It's very toxic but if you learn to become aware enough of it you can separate yourself from it and sort of start to finally give people the benefit of the doubt.

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>>23645431

Well, not looking to take sides on this one, but can you blame him? Women are not particularly honest creatures; that isn't to say that men are, either, but they're better at lying than men are.

>>23645456
That's the kind of wisdom you can only get from experience. I've never been through anything like that so I'll never really understand, I can only try my best to be sympathetic.

It means a lot more if a guy is patient and let's you see that he wants more than sex. Unfortunately words don't do much. But it sounds like you've really worked through it, you should be proud!

>>23645460
When one is anonymous one can more easily do one of two things which is either completely lie or completely tell the truth. Neither really matters since it's all anonymous anyway. So it's really funny and interesting what people think is real and what they think is fake especially when the motivation to tell the truth is more strong than some kind of intention to lie. Since I will never get to know any of you there's really no reason. So I might as well just be honest with how much of a loser I am.

>>23645455
>You must be really stuck in your bedroom.
Yup.

>>23645460
I've never gotten that impression. I think both genders lie gratuitously, and equally well.

It's probably all going to be empirical evidence either way though. No doubt my experience has been different than yours.

>>23645472
It's all about accepting reality instead of feeling like you have to constantly compensate like one feels like they have to irl. So basically accepting how fucked up I am and how life has fucked me up and in what ways instead of running from it and trying to cover it up with various superficial pleasures.

>>23645476
Are you still in Ohio?

>>23645487
And if this guy really knew me he'd know that I literally haven't changed in what I do in life since 06. I've always isolated myself. The only thing that's changed is my level of giving a fuck about it or thinking that it indicates something is wrong with me. I lie about my status irl all the time and pretty much make it seem like I have more of a life than I actually do so it's ironic I get called a liar when I actually tell the truth.

>>23645494
I was never in Ohio. I think I passed through there once a really long time ago on a friends road trip.

>>23645501
It's funny because in life and what I do I've barely changed since middle school. I still feel completely helpless, nerdy hobbies, isolated, daydreaming and using entertainment to distract myself. Buuut I feel more mature only in the sense of how much I care about the superficial traits and what they mean.

>That's the kind of wisdom you can only get from experience

And even though I'm not experienced in anyway I'm experienced only in knowing that that doesn't matter.

>>23645529
>And even though I'm not experienced in anyway I'm experienced only in knowing that that doesn't matter.
'that' as in the superficial gains and desires that lead to suffering.

I just noticed that someone made a separate virgin thread for people who aren't content to wait.

Guess someone isn't loving the tune in this thread, I think it's nice.

>>23645646
Yea, but you can't fault them for wanting sex it's just natural and there's nothing wrong with it. I'm just saying there is other kinds of happiness out there.

>>23645661
I don't hate people who like sex or anything. That's just how most people are, I'm well aware that I'm the outlier here. And the beliefs of outliers tend to be thought of as weird or frowned upon.

Although I certainly do wish there were more people like the ones in this thread. It's nice to talk about.

>>23644770
As a Muslim born in the US it's very rare to find a gyno who will do that. It's officially "banned" but it's not like they could be punished for it, however I've never heard of a woman getting one IRL. I saw a story about a Protestant girl who got one from her gyno and gave a copy to her husband and a copy to her dad (little weird but OK) during her wedding rehearsal, so I know... at least one doctor in the country will lol. In the UAE judges aren't allowed to issue a marriage license without seeing the virginity certificate it's a completely different world.

>>23645862
>As a Muslim
Kill yourself.

To me it's about bonding I guess. Like I've always felt this way, but holy shit the thread is triggering major baby fever in me. It's really comforting to see women itt.

Basically I feel that if I wait for my wife I will bond with her as I've never bonded with any human before, and sex only in marriage will reinforce the link between sex and babies. I feel that abstinence will make me a better husband and father. Someone else posted something to the extent of "hymen is broke and baby comes out" and I was like yeah, that's... that would be a good mother there. I know it's unrealistic and even among Muslims a lot of girls slut it up just as much as anyone else, and I'll end up settling on some "crazy days in college" girl but I can dream dammit.

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I'm not that worried about it anymore. I don't care whether or not other people are virgins, I don't see why anyone should care that I am too.

>>23645896
That's cute anon!

It's not entirely unrealistic but it certainly takes patience, resolve, and a lot more work. Just try not to get discouraged and funnel your energy into meeting more people, the more you meet the better the chance you'll find the right one!

>>23645862

It's just a matter of how 'important' you think virginity or the intact hymen is in a partner/bride.
If anything it's sad that in today's world a lot of men can't trust a girl on her virginity status, at least in the western world. Luckily, and ironically, most guys don't care care so it evens out.
Personally I would prefer being with a fellow virgin, but I want to be able to trust her on her virginity and not have to go through a doctor to get it verified.
>>23645896 it's not unreasonable. You'll have to look for a needle in a haystack, even if you are in a religious community. Imagine how difficult it is for a non-religious person like me to be looking for basically the same thing.

>>23645937
I mean it is pretty important to me but no raised-in-America (I'm not importing someone and forcing them to adapt to a new language etc that's just cruel) is going to fly to Dubai to see a gyno lolol that's absurd and I wouldn't think of asking it.

I could probably live with her having one or two old boyfriends. I'd be upset but get over it. My plan is just go super conservative route and starting meeting up with singles with a chaperone (there's a whole formal courting process it's just that not a lot of people follow it anymore) I'll look her in the eyes and tell her "I am still a virgin" and just leave it at that and wait for her response.

>>23631549
> I cannot do smalltalk for shit. Only hard topics like movies, relationships/psychology, politics, technology.
Literally me.

>>23646028
>I could probably live with her having one or two old boyfriends.

I feel the same way. It's not what I would prefer, but if that's what it takes to find a wife that wants to have children and is most of all serious enough I could 'deal with'.
Is there a culture among American Muslims where the imam will introduce you to women, that are deemed serious/ready for marriage? If the imam is serious and traditional enough it's sort of implied that you and the girls you will be introduced to will both be virgins, forgoing any awkwardness.
I don't know exactly since I'm not a Muslim, but I have heard stories that are like that from serious Muslims here.

>>23646081
probably my id changed but yeah, that's exactly what I intend to do (talk to the imam) within the next year or so. Most people go through their parents but I moved to a different city after HS so that's not really an option. It's definitely part of their duties but things just aren't the way they used to be lol.

I'm hopeful though and this thread has been such a major encouragement. I know a lot of people must feel that way.

>>23646329

Well the point is, with marriage having such a impact on one's life, that you find what you're looking for.
If you can find someone that has the same goals and ambitions in life, that's golden.

>>23645877
lol

>>23640532
red heads are A+. and with the beard? I just wanna rub my cheek against it.

Lonely on Friday but this thread is a+
>holding her legs during first sex
>totally naked except her garter

>>23646872
>the thought of being ravished
>the thought of him saying my name as he impregnates me and tells me how much hes been dying to.

mmmmm....

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21/M. I've (mostly) realized how precious it is to make sure you first time is special.

My (long distance) girlfriend and I were planning on meeting up sometime last year. We were gonna spend time in person at long last and seal the deal. Four graceful years without a hitch were going fine. Then she cheated on me with this one douchebag because, in her own words, she wanted a shitty relationship. We broke up not long after, and our plans fell through. We split off for almost a whole year.

She later wound up moving to another state she hated so much, she roomed with someone she knew at the soonest convenience. Voluntarily got drunk on the second night and let him fuck her, because she really wanted sex and wanted to lose her virginity.

We started talking again at some point, and she regrets that decision every single day. She wishes she could take it back, saying it felt extremely uncomfortable and meaningless. Even she encouraged me not to spend my first time recklessly as she did.

If I learned anything from her, it's that long-distance relationships blow. If anything else, it's that you should make your first time with someone you love and will never let you go. You never know what'll happen next in life.

I also learned it sucks to know your ex fucked someone else after promising you'd be her first. That's not the main point here.

>>23647572
You want to get pregnant your first time?
Interesting. That would be really... intimate. Like that child is the result of the virgin wedding. That makes sense why families used to be much more closely bonded now I've thought all this out.

(You'll be a great mom)

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>>23644604
Here

This thread is so refreshing to read and on /soc/ of all places. I hope everyone here finds the perfect special someone soon to start a family with. You will all make really good parents one day. Already made my day.

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>>23647691
>Like that child is the result of the virgin wedding. That makes sense why families used to be much more closely bonded now I've thought all this out.
Yep, the whole "virgin mother" idea.
>>23647895
IKR
I mean it's still 50 guys to 2 girls but it's still nice.

Remember you virgins of the 1st world,
3rd and 2nd world ladies are totally into you not really caring how you look.

>People waiting for marriage to have sex
>Not realising sexual compatibility is a thing in a relationship
>virgins what do you expect?

Seriously, losing your virginity is nothing special, stop thinking that because you fuck one person in your entire life it makes your relationship stronger.

What happens if you get married and you're absolutely terrible in bed together? Divorce?

>>23648105
I want every time to be as special, because I'd be doing it with the person of my life.

Why would shitty sex break a relationship? If it does, it was only based on sex to begin with.

>>23648105
>What happens if you get married and you're absolutely terrible in bed together? Divorce?

Getting a divorce based on something so small seems silly but this is the modern Western society logic, I don't even know why people get married any more because the first sign of trouble they shout divorce instead of doing the right thing and fixing a problem together.

>>23648105
Sexual compatibility is not about the mechanics of sex, like two legos that have to fit together or something. You can know you're sexually compatible with someone without actually doing it and certainly without sleeping around first for good measure. It's so much more about emotions and openness.

People who place a lot of importance on technical prowess in sex honestly kind of scare me because it literally sounds psychopathic to me.

>>23648105
Compromise m8.
Learning together. Find out what you like and what you don't.

Oh so we find out she hates taking a facial. But she wants to spank me and I don't like that. Well, you let me do this and I'll let you do that. From that trust and openness of knowing you're each other's only. I'm sure when some of the girls come on during the daytime they'll back me up.

>>23648105
>stop thinking that because you fuck one person in your entire life it makes your relationship stronger.

It's been proven statistically, time and time again, that people that married as virgins have the lowest divorce rates out there.

I hope this becomes a recurring thing because the vibes are so good. I love the bride pictures too and women should post sexy groom pictures too. Share all the good marriage feels.

>>23648119
Every time will be special in a committed relationship, and it is only further increased in strength when each person agrees to only have sex with you for the rest of your life. As opposed to "being stuck" with their married person if they waited.

>>23648131
Some things can't be fixed in relationships, but i agree divorce is thrown around pretty easy now

>>23648147
You do not know you are sexually compatible with someone doing it, that makes literally 0 sense. Thats like saying you know how to drive a F1 car because you play a video game of it. People who "sleep around" is not what i am arguing, because that isn't a relationship. As said, sex in any real relationship should be about emotions and openness, thats how normal sex in relationships works.

>>23648174
Learning together =/= being or not being sexual compatible. Sure, it'd be a massive turn on being someone's first, but if you're already in a relationship where you are both committed to being married, sex before the night of marriage is not a bad thing

>>23648213
Not that i don't believe you, but a lot of factors go into a divorce, and its not purely based on if they were virgins or not

So do you virgins want your partner to be a virgin as well?

>>23648301

Ideally, yes. Not so much for the sexual meaning, since I am not a very sexual person, but because I think that it would be the rest kind of relationship possible for me.
The 'first time committing' kind of relationship, being serious for the long term: for a marriage without ever considering divorce.
I know it will be a long and hard search, because most virgin women don't seem to want a virgin man for their first time. I will just have to keep looking until I find what I really want.

>>23648301
I wouldn't care if she is a virgin or not. I would not ask about her sexual history though.

>>23647572
>she bites her lip because it hurts a little

>>23648289
How are virgins going to know if they're sexually compatible?

The idea of sexual compatibility only exists for people who have been with multiple partners, because some are better at sex. As far as virgins are concerned there's no such thing as not being incompatible because the mechanisms still function and they don't have a comparison point.

That's like saying you're not "compatible" with steak because you prefer veal. If you've only had steak you'll never know the difference. You can still eat it and enjoy it.

>>23648836

It's more of a compatibility in terms of fetishes and desires, than actual physical concern. Let's say you want to be each other's first and only partners. In that case it's very wise to talk about what gets you off, before you try it.
It's a whole different can of worms though, which we might not want to open for this thread.

>>23648850
I agree with that wholeheartedly, but open communication is always key to a good relationship. There shouldn't be any shame in discussing fetishes, it's actually really important to a healthy relationship.

I got the impression the other anon was talking about sex in a physical sense, because it should be easy to tell emotional compatibility even if you choose to wait.

Don't be too harsh on yourselves

Relationships are just the last step towards the excruciating pain of betrayal

I would go back if I could

>>23648424

>Wants first time to be special.

>Happy with that one slut.

Have a bit more self-respect than that, chap.

>>23648339

Intended for you, dear boy.

>>23649125

>>23647810
not bad not bad. maybe cut hair yes?

>>23647691
I'm still thinking about it. but it's still hot nonetheless.

>>23649133

This might be a bit of a personal question, but I can't help asking it after reading your posts: have you dated people? i.e. went out with people and maybe started relationships with them but didn't feel the absolutely connection you are looking or?
I am legitimately interested after reading some of the things you wrote.

I have a small dong so I'll never lose it.

>>23649157
yes i have dated several people. since i was 19 years old. And yea, with none of them i didn't feel the connection that i was looking for. Ask me whatever you like.

>>23649192

I'm not sure what to ask really. We are the same age, but I've never been on a date with anyone. Would you say that you are really looking for someone at the moment? or will you wait until you find the right person, no matter how long that might take?
I would say that your attitude isn't very common these days, but I find it very attractive.

>>23649210
Depends if he meets the qualities that i'm looking for. Sometimes i become conflicted because i become desperate/horny/lonely/depressed and i'll make stupid decisions like dating the wrong person. I also have to deal with other things. like my biological clock although i still have plenty of time. then there are promises. Like giving my mother a grand child. it's the one thing shes been wanting for a long long time. and also a promise i made to God a long time ago to try and stay spiritually clean and not be like my father who ran out on my mother chasing other women. Honestly i would like to find someone who i'm really looking for at the moment, but if i have to wait i would until i can wait no longer. I don't know how long is too long for me yet considering what i wrote above. I think eventually i'll settle if it's too long which scares me but i rather do that than be alone forever. sorry for rambling.

>>23649256
>I think eventually i'll settle if it's too long which scares me

Don't be sorry. My story is similar enough that I know what you're going through. I would be interested to hear about your religious take on all this, since I don't have that perspective on the matter. Did you think you would have been married at your age?
I would also be interested to hear what qualities you find attractive or what it is you are looking for in a husband.

>>23649280
>I would be interested to hear about your religious take on all this
i got this from a website. explains things better than i do.
>Hebrews 13:4-5, “Marriage is honourable in all, and the bed undefiled: but whoremongers and adulterers God will judge. Let your conversation be without covetousness; and be content with such things as ye have: for he hath said, I will never leave thee, nor forsake thee.”

>Marriage is not only the old-fashioned way, it is the right way. Marriage is God's way, for the Lord created the institution of marriage. The sinful world doesn't respect and fear God, nor do they respect the sanctity of marriage, for it is sacred in God's eyes. Marriage is holy. The Bible teaches in Hebrews 13:4 that marriage is HONORABLE in all. Marriage is good, acceptable, honest, virtuous and true.
-the sacredness of marriage and the sacredness of human life. According to the bible both man and woman have to submit to each other. Divorce is cruel, hatred and unforgiveness .
i'm not perfect but i try to live by this.

>Did you think you would have been married at your age? if i find the right man sure, but i would also have to also be financially stable first.
>I would also be interested to hear what qualities you find attractive or what it is you are looking for in a husband.
>honesty
>moral
>leader
>christian (again he doesn't need to be perfect in his faith)
>old school (doesn't have tattos, piercings, smoke, drink, sleep around)
>has principles (isn't easily influenced by friends)
i know it's shallow, but i like a man who is fit and takes care of his health. facial wise i would accept a 7/10 at least.

>>23649338

Well other than being christian I think I fit all of those :D
It's nice to know that what I can offer is appreciated that the kind of women I look for are 'available' out there. Thank you.

>>23649338
So you basically favor old fashioned characteristics, that's hard to find but not impossible. Do you want kids? Because those are pretty much the core "paternal" traits. Although to be fair I'm interested in "maternal" characteristics myself.

That's not too shallow, but if you compromise on anything it should probably be that.

>>23649387
that's really great! and the pleasure is all mine :)

>>23649419
yea, pretty much. and yes i would eventually want kids. shaping someones life is hard work.

> 22/MN

I'm thinking about ending my life over this.
I came to the conclusion that this is impossible unless I discard my dignity.

I targeted a few girls I was GENUINELY into, only to realize they rejected me over shallow reasons.
It fucked me up really badly, because I was looking for something serious and got to know them for years.
My social skills are fucked because I was hospitalized and homeschooled as a kid.

By the time I reach the social skills of a normal 20 year old, I'll be 40 years old.
Social development never stops so it's impossible for me to find someone cause I can't "catch up"

Even then, I have standards I wouldn't want to marry ANY chick fuck that shit.
So I tried to stop looking for a serious relationship, and I just wanted to have something casual.
Unfortunately, because I'm not a 10/10 with great social skills, I get thrown into provider status.
Literally, the women who were interested in me had slept with 50-80+ people.
That wasn't the problem, the problem was they told me that I can't have sex with them till marriage. (LOL)

That's just degrading as fuck, I don't understand why I'm cuckboy status to women.
I don't even care about being "lonely" anymore, after being rejected by hundreds of women IN PERSON
I actually began to despise being in a relationship with the gender, because I honestly tried my hardest to be respectful.

I have been rejected by hundreds of women.
When a fat chick with no job tells me I have to wait till marriage to have sex with her, even though she
fucked 100 guys, it makes me feel unattractive & inferior to every male on this planet.

Partner count matters to me if I have to wait years for sex. (It's a sign that I'm an unattractive beta.)
I know ugly guys with no jobs and autism who get sex easily, so I'm definitely committing suicide.
Can I honestly love a woman if I have to change myself when I know homeless autistic guys who get laid?

>>23649427

I hate to say this, but it sounds like you were going after the wrong women if that's the reaction you got. If you want a serious relationship with someone that feels the same way about you, don't target the 'has already been with 50+ people'-market.
Look for women that are just as serious as you are.

>>23649421

It really does me good to hear women talk like you do. You'd make a great mother and lovely wife because of it.

>>23649440
The beginning of the post I mentioned there were girls I was genuinely into.

I fell in love twice, 1 I still think about today.
I know what type of girl I'd love, thing is even though being with her for a while getting to know her on a personal love I STILL got rejected.

It's because the type of girl I like, does not like guys like me.
I can't lie to myself and tell myself that I love ANY kind of girl, but I still have to change my standards if it's literally impossible for that type of girl to like me back.

I spent years chasing, I learned that X girl will never like me back no matter what I do thanks to life circumstances.

I been "dating" asking out girls who slept with tons of guys, because those are the girls who actually said yes to me ONLY to tell me I have to wait till marriage or some crap.

Women are people that don't just like 100% of the guys on this planet, that's what you're not understanding.
I'm the type of guy that a good woman wouldn't want.

>>23649440
Also to be more clear, women who are serious about relationships and have not slept with lots of guys, have standards that I can't meet and have failed to meet for many years, I know this because I talked to them.been friends with them and so on, got to know them for years.

I tried to do the rational thing by changing my standards and it seems like my only option is to not date anyone, or be in a cuckold relationship.

>>23649426
I thought that might be the case, the end goal for me is a family so a big chunk of what I think about pertains to that. I would never settle for just that reason, you can't afford to settle when it comes to the mother/father of your children!

>>23649453
>>23649456

You might need a break asking women out if that's the case. Work on yourself for a while, and see what you can improve about yourself so women that you do like will like you back.
I've been rejected enough to know that some of us just have a very hard time finding relationships, let alone find someone that wants to marry an inexperienced guy.
I'm not asking you to change your standards, but do try to look at what you find really important. At the end of the day if you really want something, you need to work for it.

>>23649440
>It really does me good to hear women talk like you do. You'd make a great mother and lovely wife because of it.
Thank you for your kind words.

>>23649427
pic? Maybe it's your looks? not trying to be mean.
what kind of women are you looking for?

>>23649453
what are your qualities?

>>23649460
>I thought that might be the case, the end goal for me is a family so a big chunk of what I think about pertains to that. I would never settle for just that reason, you can't afford to settle when it comes to the mother/father of your children!
yes exactly! this is why i'm so picky about the guys i meet.

>>23649469
> You might need a break asking women out if that's the case.

I took a 2 year break.
In that time I got over my mental instabilities & depression, got into the career of my choice.
I'm going to try getting a novel published by end of year or early next year.
I have learned how to make friends. I'm about to get a gym membership also.

I know what true depression is, I don't have it anymore. (Being honest)
But, I'm not getting any satisfaction from money or success or hobbies anymore.
This isn't part of the depression I know why I don't get satisfaction from them and I'd rather not share the reason to anyone.

> Work on yourself for a while
Already did this, I got over my mental problems, financially secure & improved my social skills to the best I possibly can. I no longer have anxiety or depression.

> so women that you do like will like you back.
I already know why women don't like me. They're not mystical creatures.
I stated that by the time I reach the social level of a normal 20 year old, I'll be 40 years old.
You're undermining social skills & women. "taking a break" is for people who have problems they need to fix. Developing social skills requires actively talking to people. (Meaning, you can't take a break.)
I have made my first IRL friend at the age of 19.
I have not socialized with people IRL my entire youth, and even though I'm actively doing it now you can't simply "catch up".

>>23649478
I'll try taking a picture.

>>23649488
Yeah I'm the same way with girls. I'm pretty nonchalant about looks, someone who cares as much as I do is all that matters in that regard. But I won't compromise on values and to some degree traits, at all, which is hard since so few people favor older fashion values.

>>23649519

The first thing that women look for in a guy is a positive attitude. I don't think you have that, at least not towards women. Work on that maybe?
Social skills are something you can work on slowly, and even just by interacting with people online.

>>23649572
> The first thing that women look for in a guy is a posititive attitude. I don't think you have that

You're jumping to conclusions, it's very easy for me to make friends with them and get invited to parties and I get texts/emails all the time from women.
I have lots of women that want to talk to me :/

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>>23630859
So how do you feel now?
And how was it?

>>23649580
If you're that good at getting contacts then;
>I stated that by the time I reach the social level of a normal 20 year old, I'll be 40 years old.
Cannot possibly be true, you're effectively contradicting yourself.

>>23649564
got a pic?

>>23649572
Anyway, I feel like you're being the negative one here. You're constantly trying to find something wrong with me that needs fixing.

I already know what the problem is, and I had female friends personally tell me. I definitely know what the problem is.
It's not looks, it's not hobbies or qualities or anything like that. It comes down to my social ability & personality that has been created from lack of a childhood.

You're trying to tell me that it's not the case and it's other things. I literally have women constantly wanting to hang out with me. I'm not going to post my picture anymore this thread is too shallow and make women come off as idiot robots.

You guys think a decent woman would reject you because of an extremely minor flaw.
As much as people talk about traits they like, when a woman meets someone she judges him as a person and not that specific trait. A woman is willing to overlook certains things (like height or skin color) if she liked the whole package.

I know what my package is, and I know what would make women want to have sex with me.
I just know it's impossible without taking a mental sacrifice on my end, I'd rather commit suicide which I will.

Seriously, this would all be implying that my most ideal girl would be someone who had sex with hundreds of men (because there's plenty of positive men without mental problems in this world!)

Women have a brain, they have thoughts and their own identity they don't just suck someones dick because he smiled and doesn't have mental problems.

>>23649609
That's because I literally just have to approach a woman, ask to hang out with her and she says yes most of the time.
They hang around me and then decide to initiate their own conversations with me. Then they suddenly start inviting me to parties.

I still can't have sex with them.

>>23649630
That doesn't sound like an issue with social skills.

>"taking a break" is for people who have problems they need to fix. Developing social skills requires actively talking to people. (Meaning, you can't take a break.)
Seems to imply that you think social skills are your issue, but everything else you've said demonstrates the opposite.

>>23649618
so it's lack of social skills mainly? example? i'm surprised the girls you fell for didn't overlook that?

>>23649650
You're right, and that's the only thing I'm pissed about really.

I'm absolutely baffled by it, I don't want to change myself any further, I want to just enjoy myself. If I was getting laid I'd be 100% happy with myself. Actually, I don't hate myself even though I don't get laid, I just feel unsatisfied with the accomplishments I make because I feel inferior.

I personally know 2 homeless people who have girlfriends, and they both suffer from severe mental problems. they don't shower and have missing teeth. THEY get laid, and I don't get laid because I have to change something about myself it makes life a big joke that I don't want to be part of.

I'm confused as to how people who have girlfriends talk about how they don't have any friends, when half the planet will say yes to any random person that approached them! I started a tabletop RPG group with a bunch of strangers, EVERYONE said yes even though they never played it before and it's super nerdy!

>>23649125
I think finding someone who is a virgin would be too much of a challenge. Also I wouldn't let something like virginity determine If I like someone or not. However, I would avoid someone I know is sexually active.

>>23649666
maybe you are trying to hard or overthinking things? women pick up on those things easily. women pick up on inferiority. and see if it is all worth it in the end. are you sure it isn't a lack of confidence? may i see a picture?

>>23649669
I think the only thing that has stop me from being in a relationship is feeling I'm not good enough for anyone. I've just never cared about money, I've always been into art. Funny thing is that I have found like minded people. I just overthink everything. When I meet someone and it gets serious I start thinking if she will stop having interest in me if she learns I don't make that much money. I currently live with my sister and her husband. I think my life would have been better If I went to an art school or studied something I really liked rather than something that would have made me financially stable. I did not make any strong relationships In High School because I had plans going to NYU to study art. I received a scholarship based on my grades and art portfolio. When I graduated US economy was looking really bad rather than NYU I went to a community college to start a degree in computer science. I was bad at math so I knew It would be a challenge. I never got through the degree. After a couple years later, I'm finishing a degree in Criminal Justice which I really like. I work at a small store, and get paid doing graphic design jobs. I get jobs based on my work portfolio I've done through the years. I've tried hard to hold on to what makes me happy.

If I could go back in time I would have chosen to find something in art or gone into the military. I was a lot more confident when I was doing something I really liked. I'm slowly gaining my self confidence by working out and starting a career in a job field I like. Also something I would change If I could would be to make long lasting friends. I had a lot of friends in High School, I just allowed the friendships to drift away. I think everyone needs support if not family, friends are a big help. I've tried doing everything on my own and failed miserably reason why I currently live with my sister.

>>23649674
>maybe you are trying to hard or overthinking things?

That's what women tell me 100% of the time whenever I show interest in them. 'You are really nice and everything, but you are taking this too seriously'.

>>23649674
> lack of confidence?
It depends how we are defining confidence, in my definition I have more confidence than 95% of the planet.

I sound like an egotistical asshole by saying that, but it's hard not to feel like that when everything in life is easy except getting laid. I got into my career very easily, I scored high on tests really easy and making friends is easy to me.

I'm starting up a business and I plan on publishing my own book while other people think that's impossible. I might fail at all of this but the point is I don't think I'll fail (if that's what confidence is.)

But it's really hard to deny hundreds of rejections. I had women in public tell me I'm cute, and I was cold-approached several times.

Yet somehow I'm a complete retard when it comes to getting laid. Literally a woman approaching me asking to be my girlfriend and I fail to fuck her. (4 different women!)

I know people are just waiting for my picture so they can pick me apart call me ugly and laugh at me, I might not be "attractive" in 4chan's eyes, but I had plenty of women approach me on a constant basis and I fail to follow through on any of them. Had women cut contact with me, stand me up on a date, tell me to wait for marriage even though they had sex with too many guys.

Why do you want to see a picture though, to be honest if I was to date a girl she shouldn't know any of this information about me. No one IRL thinks I'm insecure.

>>23649685
I can't give you advice on how to have sex with a girl. But coming off as someone who is just looking to have fun makes women more receptive. I could approach girl ask her to hang out with me and boom she's at my house the next night.

Just don't know how to have sex with them.

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>>23649613
Yeah sure, although I'm not feeling well so I look like exhausted.

>>23649716

I don't have an interest in just sex. I feel like we are complete opposites in a lot of ways. I can't make friends very well, and never get invited to social gatherings but I have been offered casual sex. I just turned it down because that's not what I want.
Different people like different things I suppose.

>>23649708
>I know people are just waiting for my picture so they can pick me apart call me ugly and laugh at me, I might not be "attractive" in 4chan's eyes

i'm going to give you my own honest opinion as to whether or not i find you attractive. If you are then maybe you are either 1.getting with women who have insecurity issues, 2.women that are out of your league, 3.there is something going on with your personality or theirs that is preventing you from keeping her for the long term. Maybe women are intimidated by you. I know i would be if i got with a man who had it all. looks, money etc. she is probably thinking "man...all those pretty women all over him it's only a matter of time before he leaves me". I may be jumping to conclusions but yea. i'm just trying to figure out what the issue is here.

>>23649742
> I have been offered casual sex
Life's a big joke, I used to want a relationship and now I just want sex.

Leaving this dead thread though

>>23649730
not bad. nice eye color. maybe loose the glasses and keep being fit.

>>23649778
Alright, thanks for the tips! Fits a permanent work in progress but I hadn't really considered the glasses. It's actually the first time I've had anyone comment on them, I'll look into contacts.

>>23649613
You keep asking guys for pictures why don't you post one of yourself

>>23649936
She's also giving advice and opinions on how they can improve. Somehow I don't see that going well in reverse.

>>23649936
because i'm actually very shy and don't want my identity revealed here. they don't have to post one either. i'm just trying to help.

>>23650027

I don't think there's a need to be shy really, but it's your call. Just don't blame us for being a bit curious :3
You have been most helpful by just being here, and by being so active and making good contributions. Hopefully the lads here have been able to help you as well.

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>>23650048
you guys are nice so here ya go.

>>23650084

Hey! You look very calm and controlled, I admire that. The long flowing hair you have is lovely too.

>>23650102
cool! thanks alot!

>>23650084
Very cute! Not much more to be said lol

I think I have reasonable expectations. I'm just starting to get my life together for the first time, 24, lost a bunch of weight over the past few years and dressing nice and I get compliments iRL and on here. Thing is, only... trashy girls jump my bones. Like drug addicts and moms. I don't want that lol. I know my economic status (high school graduate, laborer) takes me down a few notches even if I look good, and virginity being so prized in women that if I'm set on that (I am) she won't be super hot. But I kind of like the chubby girls. Like >>23648138 is hot as FUCK. Little thick, not obese just thick. I would love that.

But in the end like everyone itt family is what I'm after. I have some crazy fetishes but I can let that go for an unattractive woman that's a fantastic wife and mother. Loyalty, not nagging, helping kids with their homework and working together instead of telling the kids one thing when I said another... I'll take that over some super hot slut that lets me open her ass with a speculum.

>>23649133
I kind of like that idea now that you said it... I always said I wanted to just live together for a few years in young love then start having kids but hnngg put a baby in her that first night.

>>23648038
I think Indian women are the most attractive in the world desu. But the problem with "importing" a wife I think they would expect an upper-middle-class America-as-seen-on-TV lifestyle that I can't offer. I mean, I know I will be blue-collar for the rest of my life and I'm happy with that. But if she expects a picket fence and an inground pool and instead gets a forklift driver in a trailer...

>>23647647
I wouldn't talk to her ever again. I would say "thank your being honest but I can't accept what you did." or something like that.

>>23643922
I understand exactly what you mean. I grew up in a house around sexual abuse and I just don't like people even talking about sex. I barely watch penetrative hardcore porn either.

>>23650084
Are you hispanic/catholic? I kind of got those vibes. I hope the inevitable 10000 creeps don't turn you off from future threads like this.

>>23650110
you are too kind haha

>>23650150
>I kind of like that idea now that you said it... I always said I wanted to just live together for a few years in young love then start having kids but hnngg put a baby in her that first night.
yes...yes especially if i'm hesitant, but it would be hot if he begged me to cum inside. it doesn't have to be on the first night tho. (i'd probably be tired from the wedding itself.)

>>23650162
>Hispanic
yea, Puerto Rican
>Catholic
Understandable. but i'm christian.

>>23650162
I'm kind of optimistic, thus far we've managed to avoid falling into that usual trap.

>>23649169
I do too, but a virgin girl wouldn't know any better
>>23648903
Other people have posted on how making sure you are compatible parents is more important than looks and shared hobbies
>>23648301
Yes I want it badly, I think maybe I could forgive one or two previous partners if she shared my values closely and regretted it. If she was otherwise perfect and told me on our honeymoon she wasn't a virgin I'd probably tell her "that hurts me a lot, but I'll get over it eventually" and then be super rough with her. But if it was 12 guys or something I would break up with her.

>>23650207
>I do too, but a virgin girl wouldn't know any better

Doesn't make it less disappointing, no one likes small dicked men.

>>23650230

There's no need to feel like you should be single for the rest of your life because of the size of your penis. Depending on how small you think you are, you should have no problem finding a partner and conceiving with her. I don't think you are so small that you can't have sex.

>>23650230
If she's a virgin she's at her tightest anyway so it's not like she won't feel it. You know how in porn they always lay their dick over her face... girls bodies are just smaller and even a little one will feel big on her, this nervous girl all wide-eyed and if you tell her "see how big it is" she'll believe it.

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>>23650251

Look at this shit, nothing but a disappointment. I'm a fucking half man. Even by a miracle that I get someone I'll just get settled for and she will secretly resent me for sure.

>>23650264

Meh, not like anyone will ever love me anyways.

>>23650150
Everyone likes thick girls, that's not lowering your standards. The girl you linked to would universally be considered beautiful, she's not more attainable because she's not skinny.

>>23650282

I did not expect an actual picture... ehhh. I'm not sure why you did that to be honest.
It's not my place to judge another man's penis on it's attractiveness. From a more functional point of view; I think all the parts that are necessary to make a woman pregnant are there. It's not like the size of your penis is the only factor that determines your abilities as a partner.
The girl you might end up with might sometimes fantasize about guys that are bigger, but that doesn't mean she'll cheat on you because of how big you are.
I don't know to be honest, try asking women about this?

>>23650282
I can't tell you if that would satisfy be because i'm a virgin, but that looks pretty good imo. it's not thin and it's not "micro penis" status so thank God for that. don't say you are a "half man" that's ridiculous.

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>>23650306

I just feel so fucking insecure about it, I'm terrified of being close to someone and possibly having sex because they would just laugh at it.

>>23650302

>but that doesn't mean she'll cheat on you because of how big you are

Most of them would.

>>23650329
It doesn't even look small in those pictures. You need to provide a measurement or something for scale if you're legitimately concerned, because right now it just seems like you enjoy posting pictures of your penis.

I think it's adorable ms puerto rico is trying to reassure this guy but I really DO NOT want a bunch of dicks ITT

>>23650350

sorry I won't post more

>>23650329
I would not laugh. i think you are a good size. whats the inches if i may ask? it's alright to be insecure but remember that most women are pretty much ok with that size. all woman are different so take this into account with what she prefers. I can understand because my vagina ain't like porn at all. I have big labias and i pray everyday a guy won't barf seeing them when he does.

>>23650329

Please stop posting pictures of your penis. That said, it's nothing to worry about I think. In the end it's how comfortable you learn to be with what you have. If you are comfortable with it, and feel good about what you have a lover will too. That's what matters. Learn to use the sword you have. I have no idea how big that is, but I'm guessing about 5 inches? I think that's around average in the US, and average is more than enough for a lot of people.

>>23650369

There's nothing wrong with have labia that are a bit bigger either. You should also find a partner that accepts you for who you are, and someone that rejects you for the way your bits look.

>>23650384
>bit bigger
i'm the definition of meat curtains but thanks. don't know why they are like desu but it's what i have to live with. On the plus side i feel like i cum faster with them.

>>23650397

For me it's much more sexy when a woman feels like she has meat curtains, but still feels desired and wanted because she's comfortable with them and wears them proudly. It's not really about what you have, but how you yourself accept it.
Being able to cum faster does seem like a plus though, I'm not going to lie to you :D

>>23650431
Aren't you part-Turkish? Are you Muslim?
>>23650397
Some guys are really into that... someone's into everything lol. I mean we're all virgins here lmfao I think everyone's willing to compromise anyway, not to say it's automatically unattractive, but reverse it: you probably think the guy posting his dick is making a big deal over nothing and your future husband will feel the same way about your vagina.

>>23650412
thanks will worry less