Did hurricanes Irma, Harvey and Jose prove that there has been a significant man-made change in the climate? We've had back-to-back hurricanes in the past, but is this time different?
>>9170539
literally no different. Individual instances do not prove nor disprove theories. If we can measure a trend of hurricane intensities then it would indicate a change in temperature but to say this is because of man made greenhouse gases is inane. The most difficult part of studying man-made climate change is estimating the effect humans are changing it along with all the other 3 dozen factors.
>>9170539
>Humans created hurricanes
>We are not a type one civilization
Choose one and only one
>>9170539
Number of hurricanes has increased slightly during the 20th century. "named storms" metric may not be relevant as they didn't name as many and I would imagine they did not properly detect and categorize all of them over a century ago
>>9170539
I would say "not yet". To be honest, we just seem to have a more cautious coverage of these events, and these hurricanes in particular affected the US, so they were (of course) given more importance.
At most, it kind of shows how unprepared some places are in case of these kind of issues.
>>9170576
forgot pic
>>9170539
Yes it was different. First time two category 4 hurricanes made landfall within 2 weeks of each other. Also different because almost all of the hurricanes in history occurred before 2017. These occurred during 2017. Pretty spooky stuff.
It us going to take a decade or more before we can determine if this is influenced by man-made climate change or not. It is possible this hurricane season is an outlier, which would mean little to no evidence of man-made affects leading to more powerful/frequent hurricanes. However, if this season becomes part of a new trend, then it would be evidence to suggest man-made climate change influences hurricanes
>>9170548
>The most difficult part of studying man-made climate change is estimating the effect humans are changing it along with all the other 3 dozen factors.
Not really.
Whenever someone tries to argue for climate change tell them this one sentence-
We are in an interglacial warming period.
Is here a trend to suggest the severity of hurricanes is increasing over time? And if there is is that trend correlated to ghs emissions and/or temperature anomaly?
>>9171182
But we're supposed to be going into and ice age.
>>9171185
We are still in an ice age. There are glaciers and the poles of the earth are covered by ice. All of that will melt and it will freeze over again in thousands of years.
>>9171187
What no, if all of it melts that would be fucked beyond fucked you don't understand
>>9171182
>We are in an interglacial warming period.
But we're not. We're in an interglacial period. The interglacial warming was thousands of years ago. If anything, we should be cooling.
>>9171189
It's bound to happen, there is no stopping it. It's part of a natural cycle that has been occurring since the beginning of time. 12,000 years ago north America was covered by sheets of ice that were 1-3 km thick. Are you gonna try and tell me it was man made climate change that caused all of that ice to melt?
>>9171190
You need to do some reading. We have been in an interglacial warming period for thousands of years and it will continue until all ice is melted.
>>9171198
No it doesn't continue that far
The last time there was no ice on earth was 65 million years ago when the dinosaurs were around
The climate and the atmosphere and everything was completely different back then
Without any anthropogenic forcing we would be cooling not warming
>>9171198
>it will continue until all ice is melted.
That's not what an interglacial period is.
>>9171419
You people keep forgetting to put "warming" after interglacial. That is essential.
An interglacial warming period such as the one we are in now means that the world's ice is melting/receding and it could very well continue until it's all gone, or it could end tomorrow. The natural earth controls these cycles, not humans.
>>9170539
Sounds like someone forgot about 2005.