Why do ALL ingredients in toothpaste and mouthwash end up being

>>9151802
Have you tried rinsing your mouth? Heard that gets rid of the toothpaste

>>9151916
Why do you think the flavor/smell stays after? It's because you can't wash it out. It goes into your gums, tongue, and teeth. It's impossible to wash it out. You swallow it.

Then don't eat the toothpaste?

Don't rinse like a retard?

Talk to your dentist like a normal fucking human being?

fluorine is the best replacement for hydroxide we know of for preventing painful tooth issues or loss of teeth in general. If we weren't lazy from birth, charcoal would be fine for those who aren't genetically predispositioned for tooth decay. Of course, fluoride in the water system is a waste, since a tube of tooth paste is $3.50 a month. However, since we are talking about anti-cavity products, it is safe to assume you could choose products that are benign if you were willing to spend a few dollars more a month, put in the effort and/or be genetically capable of taking care of your teeth without potentially harmful substances.

>>9151927
You drink fluoride every day. There is no need to have it in tooth paste.

>>9151928
I live in a county that doesn't fluoridate its water.

Try again sweetie.

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>>9151928
>fluoridating the water is the same as brushing with fluoride paste for 3+ minutes twice a day or more

>>9151932
>3 minutes twice a day

people do this? lmao

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>>9151937
Don't do it. Stay natural.

>>9151937
if you dont brush twice 2mins per and floss once per day you are an actual savage, if you wanted to be optimal you would brush after every meal

>>9151963
it sounds pointless.

>>9151963
i brush once a day for about 3-4 minutes. just got back to the dentist with no cavaties, very low plaque and tartar. they always tell me i do a great job. also fuck flossing

>>9151802
Because dentists are assholes that want to make money, take it from a medical student that knows the type of people I'm working with.

The important part of brushing is physically scraping food residue from your teeth without damaging the bones themselves. Whitening is unecessary to live but our culture has decided to link teeth whiteness with overall good hygiene, even though that's not necessarily true.

Also, afaik, there is nothing wrong with mouthwash as long as you don't swallow it like a retard. Listerine is one of the better ones out there, don't buy cheap shit that fails to get the job done.

>>9151963
>t. dental shill

>>9152072
This guy knows what's up.

>>9152519
Meant to link >>9152504 not >>9152072

>>9151802

It has to be toxic to kill the bacteria that is munching on the sugars in your mouth.

If you had a almost zero sugar diet you could get away with just using charcoal or something.

>>9152519
>listerine is one of the better ones
Alcohol dries your mouth.

I too only eat food without chemicals.

>>9152739
I usually have chemicals in all my foods

>>9152519
toothpaste doesn't seem necessary at all.

What about miswak?

niggas be doing cocaine and all kinds of drugs but then complain about "toxic toothpaste" lmao hold this L desu baka senpai

Do you know how toxic chemicals you ingest everyday? I can understand the argument against putting fluoride in water, because that's a waste of money, but this is just retarded.

>>9153048
I definitely do not ingest toxic chemicals every day.

>>9151963
flossing does literally nothing

>>9153052
you do. every single chemical you ingest is lethal in a high enough dose

>>9153079
Technically correct.

How many chemicals that he ingests are toxic in the doses involved ?

>>9153117
None

>>9152519
so what kind of toothpaste you use?

>>9153117
Toothpaste also isn't toxic in the doses involved iirc

>>9153310
except heavy metal toxins accumulate in the body and calcify in the brain, correct?

How come all of the ingredients in soap end up being toxic?

You don't eat it, artard.

>>9151916
>>9151926

You guys seriously aren't aware of sublingual and buccal absorption of drugs? Saying 'don't eat it' is a complete non-argument. If you honestly believe toxic things are fine in your mouth as long as you don't swallow then go try holding some bleach under your tongue and see what happens.

I'm not really sure why toothpaste needs to contain so much crap, and why theres no real basic alternative available. Seems completely unnecessary

>>9151802
wtf how come my phone is toxic

>>9153614
You guy seriously aren't aware of the epidermal absorption of drugs? Saying 'don't eat it' is a complete non-argument. If you honestly believe toxic things are fine in your mouth as long as you don't swallow then go try holding some bleach under your tongue and see what happens.

Instead of saying "studies show if you drink 10 gallons of fluoride makes you sick, there's fluoride in toothpaste, ergo toothpaste must make you sick!" Why don't you actually demonstrate it. Oh right, because you can't. Because it doesn't.

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>>9151802
Some Chemicals are turning Pepe Frogs
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http://www.lushusa.com/face/teeth/atomic/06345.html close enuff?

>>9153658
best pepe i've ever seen, and i'm no fan of the shitty meme myself. I like efg better, see, i failed so hard i didn't even post his jpg

Just use baking soda if you're that concerned.

>>9153703
who are you

>>9152765
You shouldn't eat anything with molecules in it.

>>9153614
just because those routes exist doesn't mean all chemicals take them

>>9153601
Ever eaten fish?

>>9153614
>theres no real basic alternative available
Bull fucking shit. There are loads of fluoride free toothpastes, organic toothpastes, natural toothpastes. There's baking soda. There are recipes to make your own toothpastes or tooth powder.

Find something with ingredients only you approve of, or make your own.

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>>9151802

You don't need toothpaste to brush your teeth. A brush and water are enough to clean your mouth.
And of course, be smart, don't eat sugar, acid (coca cola and co) and be positive.

>>9153601
Why do conspiracy tards always misuse the term calcify

>>9155036
>don't eat sugar, acid (coca cola and co)
Yeah but where is the fun in that

>>9154533
i eat only vegan food nowadays, but yes, when i was into necrophagia, i did indeed consume the rotting corpses of slaughted and or butchered lifeforms. I was a sinner for sure.

>>9155055
Do you understand the concept of a question?

>>9153832
I am robotron, i think. My real name is super seekret

>>9153057
Except remove stinky shit from between your teeth. You know how you never get laid? It's because anyone who gets within 3 feet of you knows you don't floss, because they can smell your fucking mouth.

>>9151802

Toxicity:

"Toxicity is the degree to which a chemical substance or a particular mixture of substances can damage an organism. **A central concept of toxicology is that the effects of a toxin are dose-dependent**; even water can lead to water intoxication when taken in too high a dose, whereas for even a very toxic substance such as snake venom there is a dose below which there is no detectable toxic effect. "

so, the right question to ask is - how much of a substance can you intake before unwanted effects rise to an unacceptable level (either acutely or chronically)? OP, how much fluoride can you intake daily, on average, before you start to experience unacceptably negative long-term effects?

>>9155136
oh man this is harrowingly true, 3 feet is indeed the minimum required distance, too. That comment of his made me thinking today, too, like, man that douchebag doesn't know yet that he's rotting on the inside and stuff is feeding on his rotting decaying body... fuck man..

>>9151916
>>9151924
You're actually not supposed to rinse afterwards, just spit out the toothpaste until it's gone. You can rinse like 20-30min later though if you still have the taste.

>>9155429
sorry jew, not falling for it

>>9153057
I floss after brushing every night and there's almost always some visible food debris on the floss, so it's definitely doing something.

>>9151802
You know there is this very toxic stuff called Dihydrogen Monoxide and I'm quite sure you are one of the people that should completely stop their intake of it, for your own and every one elses sake.

What the actual fuck do you even expect, literally everything is toxic at the right dose, even oxygen you fucking mongrel.
I hope this is so bait.

>>9152519
Can I use about one and a half liters of Vodka per day instead of mouthwash?

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>>9155506

Alcool is very bad for your mouth.

>>9155534
Good thing I drink it and asked how good it is as a mouthwash before trying that shit.

>>9151802
every thing is toxic to the point of toxicity

>>9155534
>alcool
You have to go back.

>>9155502
>I hope this is so bait.
not bait, and 100% valid.

>>9155487
it'll get out gross food debris, sure, but it doesn't do anything for plaque buildup

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cacao/theobromine is better than fluoride at rebinding the crystal shit on your teeth, just use that.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23615395

2 tablespoons baking soda
4 tablespoons coconut oil
6 drops clove essential oil
2 teaspoons organic raw cacao (preferred) or cocoa powder

Consider what popular brand toothpaste is for a moment; it's been evolving as a product for how long now? Competitors had to keep changing what worked to make their product stand out, continually adding new chemicals with tartar/bacteria/plaque/whitening/whatever properties and flavors/coloring. Are they necessary for cleaning your mouth? No. Are some of these things even harmful, especially if continually used multiple times a day, everday for decades? Probably.

But like other anons said, it's your choice. There are plenty of other solutions. The main thing to do is just clean them after eating and ensure the bad shit doesn't have time to build up. Don't sterilize your mouth each time because that isn't necessary if you don't let it get bad. Also stop eating bad shit that promotes bad bacteria in the first place.

>>9151802
dude, "toxic" dosnt mean toxic for you, it means toxic for the bacterias in you mouth

>>9156867
wrong.

>>9151802
I'm fairly certain sodium cocoyl glutamate induced panic attacks and night terrors for me. Happened three nights in a row, ceased using the toothpaste, stopped happening. Has never happened again.

>>9156804
This. Also refreshing to see that someone else is aware essential oils aren't made of useless inert compounds that just happen to be in a plant.

>>9151802
fish has mercury in it; the fuck do you want?

>>9157271
Something that isn't trash.

>bad teeth isn't a problem for 95% of human history
>suddenly in the 20th century dentistry becomes a thing, and is coincidentally shilled constantly by the media and extremely expensive
Just start eating real food instead of processed garbage.

>>9157308
>bad teeth isn't a problem for 95% of human history

And isn't a problem for 100 % of animal (-human).

>>9152519

Having some kind of paste if you'd want to get things clean is only reasonably. You use liquid/gel to clean shoes and surfaces aswell.

However, the most important part is getting rid of food remains, because those decay and form very nasty toxins that kill your immune system.

>>9156804
baking soda will destroy your enamel...

>>9151802
Everything is poison in large doses boi

>>9157766
ah didn't know that, my mom uses that shit all the time. The other ingredients should be fine though