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Rick Perry requests taxpayer subsidies for coal fired power plants to compete with renewable energy 2017-08-26 05:11:11 Post No. 9129590
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Rick Perry requests taxpayer subsidies for coal fired power plants to compete with renewable energy
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2017-08-26 05:11:11
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The U.S. power grid could become less reliable if too much electricity comes from renewable energy and natural gas, according to a study from the Department of Energy.
But not everyone is buying it. Environmentalists suspect the Trump administration is just trying to prop up an ailing coal industry.
Energy Secretary Rick Perry called for the study in the spring. The report doesn't say there is a grid reliability problem now — only that one could develop if more coal and nuclear power plants shut down.
Those plants are having trouble competing with cheaper natural gas and renewable energy at a time when the country is using less electricity.
The Energy Department study points out that coal and nuclear generate power whenever it's needed, while solar and wind can be less predictable.
This echoes an argument that traditional utilities and power generators have made for years.
"The most reliable and resilient grid is the type that will balance traditional base load sources of power with renewable power," says Scott Segal, director of the Electric Reliability Coordinating Council.
Segal says renewable forms of electricity got a lot of focus during the Obama administration, but now he thinks it's time for the pendulum to swing back.
The Sierra Club's Mark Kresowik sees something else entirely in the Energy Department's report.
"Coal and nuclear interests are making a last-ditch attempt to try and preserve their market share, that is being taken up by fast-growing, clean, reliable, affordable resources like wind and solar," he says.
Kresowik and other renewable energy advocates believe the Trump administration is laying the groundwork to justify subsidies for coal and nuclear power plants.
http://www.npr.org/2017/08/24/545722857/coal-nuclear-power-would-benefit-from-energy-departments-power-grid-study
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"It will cost consumers more, and ultimately we will all be paying the price — whether in increased electricity costs or by breathing dirtier air," Kresowik says.
Nuclear plant operators already have won subsidies in some states, and coal companies have lobbied the Trump administration for help.
But Segal says, "Any real bold policy changes require major regulatory change or legislation or both."
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>>9129590
This is politics, not science. Unless you're asking whether that's accurate?
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>>9129593
>Unless you're asking whether that's accurate?
yes but more generally whether it's worthwhile to prop up coal power
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Generally speaking, I feel that in a capitalist economy progression is required. This goes with nature as well. Anything in moderation is good. If a variable stays the same then issues come about such as scarcity, wear, and in human cases boredom. If the economy survives long enough to make a change such as this then it should. Renewable resources would drastically help compared to natural gas. However the government is even regulating power taxes as a kickback for their loss of income from gas reduction.
Even with smart cars there was a $200 monthly tax to back themselves for "gas" prices. So would I believe that Trump is backing a coal industry. If it were connected to his business, possibly, but as a government position it wouldn't be necessary because they already have a means of income for if the resources change. It's just taxes with a different name on them.
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>>9129590
>The Sierra Club's Mark Kresowik sees something else entirely in the Energy Department's report.
>Sierra Club
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>>9129590
>muh free market principles
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>>9130033
Neocons, like all Democrats, should be lined up and shot
>we gotta stand up for muh freemarket!
>lemme just take this huge wad of cash from a large petroleum company that is paying me to help it keep an oligopoly
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>>9129590
Why are coal and nuclear getting lumped together? Nuclear is the cleanest and safest form of baseload power. We need more modern, scalable nuclear plants that can adapt to changes in demand. If that's called a "subsidy" then so be it.
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>>9130138
But everybody turns into a retard when nuclear power is involved
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Trump's people are literally telling scientists what conclusions to reach, and demanding that the studies be altered to support their political agenda.
EPA researchers had put together a study showing that a particular regulation protecting streams and rivers would end up saving more money (by preserving resources associated with wetlands) than it would cost to implement. Scott Pruitt didn't like this, so he explicitly ordered those scientists to come up with a new study that ignored those benefits.
>https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/11/us/politics/scott-pruitt-epa.html
Unsurprisingly, Rick Perry did something similar to this report.
A complete draft of it that was leaked found that the power grid was in good condition and that renewables weren't causing problems, and that coal plant shutdowns were driven by the natural gas boom (which is absolutely true). But the """"official"""" version that Perry's people edited tried to say the opposite, only they missed a few spots where the original conclusions were still mentioned.
>https://thinkprogress.org/trump-officials-rewrite-grid-study-ac7d3d188b6a/
Basically, you can't trust any official reports coming out of agencies controlled by Orange Man. The politicians write the conclusions first and try to force the data to fit them.
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