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Do religion serves as a social "glue" among societies?

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Do religion serves as a social "glue" among societies?

by glue I mean social cohesion.

Do this mean an atheists society has less social cohesion compared to a one that is more religious?
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Atheism is no different to theism because being an athiest requires faith in their own belief that a God doesn't exist coupled with their faith in science.

From this, communities of atheists arise just like communities of Christians, glued together by their belief systems.
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In reality it seems to be the opposite. More atheist countries have lower crime rates and higher quality of life
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>>9091668
that's one of the possible consequences of religion.

But, this doesn't imply an atheist community would be less cohesive. Example: Stalin's soviet union was an atheist country, and it was cohesive in the sense that it was a communist country held together by the totalitarian government. Similar with Castro's Cuba.
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>>9091676
that percentage is always brought down by 3rd world countries with a religion generally interlaced with their culture. if you really wanted to see how religion affects a community you'd need to compare equally wealthy areas with different percentages of atheists
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>>9091668
It can be used as one, sure. But that doesn't mean it is the only glue. There is no reason to believe that less religious societies haven't found some other common aspect of their lives to glue their society together.
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Atheism is just a religious dedication against religion. Hence why globalism isn't "the opposite of nationalism," it's a form of nationalism that focuses on being anti-nationalist. It's a concept that can only exist because it's opposite does, and this it is a concept regardless of the fact that it tries to be "conceptless" (i.e. Atheism says there is no creator, no life after death, no meaning in soul, etc.).

Suffice to say, to your first statement, yes. But to your last statement, no. Philosophy isn't physics; religion actually has no physical affect on a society beyond the fact that it's a dedication. A dedication to being anti-religious would do the same. A dedication to rocket science and getting to space in a society would do much the same. A dedication to worshipping a godless afterlifeless religion that celebrates the harvest would do much the same. Etc.
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It's not do it's does.
Does religion serve as a social glue?
Answer: Not today, not in the US. In your country it might be different. Today, ethnicity is the glue. If you are "Mexican" if you are "Italian" if you are "Puerto Rican" determines you social bonds. Religions are a subset of these. A Catholic Mexican might feel akin to a Salvadorian Catholic but closer to a Mexican Agnostic who can marry his daughter....etc....
Don't get me started on the issues of "White America"...
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>>9091668

No. Also: >>>his
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There's a chapter on this in the book bowling alone, it has far more citations and statistics than anyone is going to give you here so read it if you're interested.
Basically the answer is yes, religious people tend to be far more active in all aspects of community life.
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>>9091668
There are a lot of things beside religion which can also serve as sources of cohesion.
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>>9091668
Rome & Greece
Both had secular philosophy & superstitious mythology.
Greeks were more fragmented (rival cities competing with each other like Athens vs Sparta)

Roman Empire
All power of the vast empire was centralized in Rome. But each of colonies started to rebel & the West was conquered by Germanic/Nordic who raped Roman Lolis & killed Roman cucks creating the Modern Italians & French.
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>>9092984
>Today, ethnicity is the glue
I think ethnicity has always been the glue.
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>>9091668
Im pretty sure early humans were technically atheists and they managed to form cohesive societies.
Also for a modern example just look at Norway. That place has the highest number of non religious persons in the world and they also have the lowest xrime
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>>9091668
The social glue you talk about is ideology, religion is only a particular case of ideology
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>>9091668
Not religion explicitly, just ideology.
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Religion = Tribalism

Religion brings about social cohesion the same way sports bring social cohesion among fans of the same team. It also brings about biter hatred of those not part of your tribe. (eg, rival football team, or rival religion)

Atheism may or may not be seen as a tribe, depending on who's doing the looking. Some view it as just another religion, albeit one without a god. While others see it as a way to abstain or distance themselves from all the bitter rivalries and hatred that many tribes suffer.
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>>9091668
not at all, 100% total nonsense, the exact opposite is the case
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Socialism and Secularism have proven more efficient and progressive than any form of religion regarding social cohesion and basic human understanding.

Lets leave the dead horses where they are and look forward, okay?
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>>9091668
Yes.
Proof: name a single atheist country that didn't mass murder its own people.
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