Puzzle here, looking for some creative solutions from those better

>>9032865
I feel like this might be cheating but here are some of my ideas:

Unacceptable cheat level:
- breaking the matchsticks

Questionably cheaty:
- Knuth's notation (pictured)
- Repeating Decimal notation (not sure if valid at all)

Sorta Cheaty:
- Flipping the image

>>9032865
990 you tard

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>>9032870
graphic for Knuth's

>>9032865
999

>>9032873
Using your method, you could also get 998.

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>>9032865

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>>9032874
>>9032870

>>9032873
you mong, why would I come here for an answer like that. At least take the top and bottom of the 0 and make 51181 or even better take two matches and stick them in your eyes

>>9032880
you can also do this right way up so the 11 becomes the right 'size' to be the exponent

if you're a pansy

Take two from the 8 to make it a 3 and put them on the right to make a 1. You get 5031.


You could also do the same but you take two from the bottom left of the 0 to leave a 7 if you're ok with writing 7s that way. This gives you 5781.

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999, this isn't hard. Red = new lines, blue = where they were

>>9032874
I really don't think we're getting higher than this. I can't even calculate this value.

>>9032893
>>9032889
>>9032887

I'm looking for more outside the box solutions. Did any of you look at any other posts here before you made yours?

You can easily make a Carat with 2 sticks, that's entry level creativity for this question.

Interesting answers from a live thread on /b/:

5.1E+04 — 51181
1.5E+11 — 5^18 Knuth's
6.3E+40 — 5118^11
3.0E+82 — 5^118 (moves numbers to make space)
2.6E+1158 — 509! (breaks a match)
7.0E+5329 — 11^5118 (expoonent too tall)
8.0E+8450 — 11^8115 (exponent too tall + flip)
crazy big — 5^^8 Knuth's (half arrows)
infinity — 905 line on top (very questionable use)

>>9032865
Anything that says "only for genius" on it is fake and gay

>>9032865
1503

>>9032874
Did you just turn those into arrows because holy shit that's a big number.

>>9032893
this

But since OP wants "outside the box".... imagine an infinite number of matches made from dark matter

51181, without dicking around with exponents and the like. Take top and bottom ones from zero and make 1 at the end.

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>breaking the matchsticks
>Knuth's notation (with half-arrows)
>Flipping the image
brainlets pls

The repeating decimal notation is something most professional mathematicians would not even recognize so it's definitely out.

>>9033070
11^5118 would be bigger than 5118^11

brainlet

>>9032865
>Take away the two on top of the 5
>It becomes c08
>Set c to equal infinity

Boom. Infinity. I win.

>>9032865
Take 1 match, use one to burn the rest of the matches and crunch them up into ashes. Use that match to push around the ashes into the largest number you can make with that much ash. It should be over 1million.

989

>>9033213
>bottom of 5 looks like c

>>9033233
Whoops. Then it's -c. Which is -infinity.

I still win.

>>9032865
>easy answer:
999
>real answer:
1503

>>9033249
>supreme answer:
5031
>unbelievable answer:
8118

>>9033253
>Supersaiyan answer:
9001

81151

1. Walk to the other side of the table
2. Move the matches (delete red place green)
3. Now have 81151

Where's my Fields Medal

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>>9033236

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>>9033255
>smart enough to get the best answer
>not smart enough to post it
I'll settle for a slew of honorary degrees and Bill Nye's job

>>9033256
I can set backwards c to be whatever I want.

I say it's infinity. I'm right.

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>>9033031
lol according to matlab it equals infinity

>>9033259
That's what power is

Knowing the idea and knowing how to tell people so they'll understand it

>>9033260
Infinity isn't a number so you lost by default.

>>9033264
God is dead so you lost by default

>>9033260
ask me how i know you were that kid nobody wanted to play with at school

>>9033268
Cuz I'm always right :^}

>>9032865
51181
Get on my level plebs

5091. Take the bottom match from the 8 and the bottom left match from the 8. Use the two matches to make a 1 to the right of the 8 (now 9) Fucking brainlets.

>>9033317
Look up brainlet

>>9033260
not a number

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>>9032865
EA8 = [math]14*16^2 + 10*16 + 8 = 3752[/math]
not the biggest but if we're allowed to change base then you can make this number arbitrarily large without moving more than 2 sticks.

>>9032865
51181 is an easy solution.

>>9032865
>Take the bottom match from the 8 and the bottom left match from the 8

wat?

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Take 2, cut them in half.

>1111^5118

>>9033770
Why stop at halves. You can get even larger with quarters or eighths, etc.

>>9033668
lol if you're changing to an arbitrary base why would you go with 16 and not something like base-whatever-the-number-of-printable-characters-in-utf8 or worse

>>9033794
My hands hurt trying to break it up into smaller pieces.

>>9033525
It represents a number. C is a number. C=infinity=999999999999...

9718 without using exponents and having properly sized numbers

>>9032880
you could have placed the remaining two matchsticks at the far right thus making the final number 81151

>>9032896
so then you're not looking for the biggest number you're just being a fucking hipster dipshit.

>>9032874
Instead or arrows, make Ts, so it becomes 5TT8

Then claim the Ts are short for TREE() and that it's equal to 5*TREE(TREE(8))


(Even TREE(3) makes Graham's number look piss small.)

>>9033893
Never mind that response I'm apparently retarded and uncreative

>>9033842
how many matches did you move?

>>9033852
That's supposed to be 11^

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>>9033853
why do you hate fun

>>9033253
>eldrich abomination answer:
51181

>>9032865
983

51181 is the only real answer

>>9032998
This actually, without any bs its this one

>>9033907
two. i moved the top match from the zero to the five to make 9 |_| 8. then i moved the bottom match of what was the zero to the top left of the left adjacent line to get something that looks like [math]9\!718[/math]

5781

>>9032865
I define an arbitrary configuration of matchsticks to be infinity

>>9032896
>outside the box
careful cause you might just get stuck outside the box forever.

>>9032865
"you can move two matchsticks"

Can you move only 1, then?

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smallest infinite limit ordinal; denoted by ω (omega).

5ω8 = 40ω

>>9037137
I beat everyone

>>9032865
1505?

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5*(Γ111)*18

The Feferman–Schütte ordinal is Γ0

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veblen_function

the official answer is 51181

http://appclarify.com/tricky-test-2-think-outside-if-you-can-now-move-2-matches-whats-the-biggest-possible-number-walkthrough/

>>9037175
Nah fuck your "official" shit

>>9037154
Finally, someone actually read the two movements rule...

>>9033795
ahem that would be base 2^8

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[math] 5 \beth_{11} 8[/math] recalling that the beth number [math]\beth_1[/math] is the cardinality of the continuum and [math]\beth_{n+1}[/math] is the cardinality of the power set of [math]\beth_n[/math].

51118

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>>9037522

>>9032865
999 without going into some retarded rule bending cheating shit.

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>>9037713
You forced my hand, faggots.

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I've having more fun with this than should be allowed; it's basically mathematical shitposting.

If you allow slightly misaligned lettering then you can read pic related as [math]5^{11} \mathbf{On}[/math], i.e. the disjoint sum of [math]5^{11}[/math] copies of the proper class of ordinals (this is well-defined in NBG set theory, say, and since [math]\mathbf{On}[/math] is well-ordered I'm going to argue that it just barely meets the criteria for being a number).

Moreover, [math]\mathbf{On}[/math] is a proper class (i.e., "too big to be a set") so I don't think you can get any bigger than this unless we start naming categories. Unfortunately I only have scant knowledge of category theory and can't name any that are reachable from 508 in two matchstick-moves, but /sci/ has a fair number of categorists so I wouldn't be surprised if someone does.

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>>9037741
>naming categories
And I've just found one, though it requires viewing the image upside-down: [math]11 \mathbf{Pos}[/math], i.e. 11 disjoint copies of the category of posets (which is well-defined in the usual set theories, but also in any type theory that has sum types).

I have no idea how big this is supposed to be at all. I don't even know if the usual notions of "size" even apply to categories (and from my limited understanding I don't think they do).

>>9037464
>2^8
There are way more than 256 characters in utf-8

>>9032865
8118 looks good

The largest I can make is negative 9118 am I a brainlet?

>>9037789
50/0 with one match

9E8

which means 9 * 10^8

You're all idiots. There is no biggest possible number.

>>9032865
you could take 2 from the 8 and make 5061

but the 6 would look weird

>>9036486
Using those rules, you could also get 5031

>>9037798
What are you talking about? That's 109416 times bigger than the sum of all natural numbers!

>>9032998
Truth

>>9032896
Outside the box solutions are wrong. 999 is the highest

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>>9032865
n i g g e r s

>>9032865
9118

don't place the second match anywhere.

>>9033737
i like it

>>9033098
>>now move 2 matches
>11^5118
Lrn2read, retard

>>9032865
1 5 1 1 8
ez

>>9032874
I don't think anyone in this thread has beaten this one yet

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>>9033885
>claim the Ts are short for TREE()
claim denied

>>9033842
>>9036509
phound the phonephags who can't into image

>>9039692
bcoz fake arrows

>>9032865
My guess is 8118. You move the matches at the top and the bottom of the zero in order to turn the five into an eight.

>>9033098
the 11 would just look like a subscript

you could do 5118^11, that's kinda large

>>9039870
O RLY
>>9033070

>>9039858
fgt pls
>>9039446

>>9039955
what?

What about the smallest number?

>>9032865
Obviously just tetrate it. (^11)5118
GGWP

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>>9041278
Zero

>>9041304
>>9041278
what about the smallest positive number?

5^78

>>9032865
51181

>>9041374
1^503

>>9041374
006

Not sure about my answer but I got 8118. You do that by getting the top and bottom matchsticks from 0 and filling up the spaces on the 1st digit to make an 8 and you get 8118

>>9042234
close

http://appclarify.com/tricky-test-2-think-outside-if-you-can-now-move-2-matches-whats-the-biggest-possible-number-walkthrough/

>>9041644
That equals 1 you retard

>>9037522
>>9037137
cardinality =/= number

>>9042899
>That equals 1 you retard
that's the point
>what about the smallest positive number?

>>9039549
Obviously 51181 is higher you retard.

>>9032865
15118?

>>9039858
>never heard of tetration>>9039903

8118

>>9042906
1 =/= smallest positive number

>>9044413
then make a smaller number by moving two matchsticks in OP's image

>>9032865
80085