Wtf collegehumor claims that you can have babies after 35 wi

>>9031807
This is a science board. You're asking a medical question. Nobody here can answer you.

Ask a doctor.

Better yet, study fertility yourself. Get your own answer. Stop asking someone to give you a yes or a no.

>>9031835
but i know that there are several medstudent and doctors on /sci/...
I will research for myself, but i wanted to know if anyone else here has already read into it

genetic load increases with paternal age.
you want brainlet kids?

I'm the oldest of four children and my parents started in their late 30s. I cannot advise against it enough all four of us are off kilter in various ways (with me being the worst with a full on sperger diagnosis). My youngest sister has her back covered entirely in moles.

>>9031840
They probably have. And come to their own personal conclusions on the subject.

The point is that in asking stupid yes or no questions you're already limiting the potential options. But you're asking a broad question, that requires a great deal of information to understand. So stop trying to look for the easy answer and find the real fucking answer yourself.

>>9031871

>t. someone with an associate's degree in biology

If you were really a /sci/fag, then you would leap at the opportunity to impart knowledge on others, you fucking brainlet.

>>9031807
if you're over 25 you shouldn't be having kids. You're supposed to be done, and be raising your brood for the next five years until you die at 30 like humans did for the last 200,000 years.

>>9031869
Correlation ≠ causeation

>>9031877
Kek what? I don't know jack shit about biology. I'm a fucking film major.

What made you think I knew what I was talking about???

>>9031881
nice platitude kid
sometimes there is causation

>>9031889
What about getting older causes down syndrome? You've shown me the correlation, now show me the cause.

>>9031883
>film major

This is /sci/. /tv/ is through the door on your left.

>>9031896
One post before he thought I already had a degree in a field I don't know anything about. What changed?

Also /tv/ has too many people. My main boards are /sci/ /lit/ and /p/.

>>9031881

It's been known for a very long time, faggot.

>>9031879
Except that's wrong. Average life expectancy was around 30 years for a long time because of the high child mortality, if you survived till 20, you had good chances to survive 30 years more

>>9031912
provided a famine didn't fuck your shit u

>>9031912

Woman were still at a high risk of dying of childbirth.

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my mother had me at 45 and I'm totally fine

>>9031926
>Ended in 4chan

Not too fine.

>>9031840
Medstudent here. The risk is greater after 35 but its not that extreme.

>>9031807
>Liberal media tells white people that they should have kids as late as possible to ensure the next generation of white people are all down syndrome autists

Heh, seems like a normal wednesday for liberal media. What are you surprised about OP? This is par for the course.

>>9031946
What about this chart? >>9031869
Or is it just a false correlation?

>>9031807
>without any major problems
not for the baby which is twice as likely to have autism, 10 times more likely to have ADHD and has a 1/3 chance of having down's syndrome

>>9031869
so no, older women have downies

>>9031962

Anon, autism is obviously caused by vaccines and has nothing to do with genetics nor parent's age

>>9031956
I'm almost certain there is positive correlation.Tbh i am only studying for a year and i really can't tell you if the chart is completely accurate (pretty sure its not).

>>9031906
So was the existiance of God. Now look what happened.

>>9031840
>medstudent and doctors on /sci/...
We purged them all a while back. Only real STEM here now.

Risk increases with each passing year,the more you wait the bigger chances for a fucked up kid.
After all its you call,while your wife is waiting to have kids at 40 the prime womb meat is long gone.

t.doc

>>9031881
We know the cause... The longer the eggs stay in metaphase (which human oocytes are permanently stuck in until ovulation) the higher chance the chromosomes will stick together. This is also probably the cause of higher miscarriages, since trisomy 23 is probably the only viable trisomy.

>>9032090
So the risk increases, but that dosen't mean having a kid at 40 guarantees it'll be retarded. And having a kid too early presents it's own problems. You don't have a stable enough life yet.

So what's the middle ground? What's the perfect age to have a child?

>>9032103
Thanks. I already knew that. Read above.

i was born when my mom (and dad) were 42 and i've turned out just fine...perhaps

>>9032221
45 here. No indication that I'm abnormal barring intelligence which runs in the family

>>9032221
Even the fact that you're on /sci/ already means that you're not "fine".

>>9032260
>Even the fact that you're on /sci/ already means that you're not "fine".
can you read at all?

>>9032221
So? You're just one out of 98.75% (according to >>9031869) who do not have downs. That doesn't mean the 1.25% who do don't exist

>>9032103
Trisomy 23? I'm gonna go out on a limb and say you have no idea what you're talking about, being that there is no such thing as trisomy 23, and trisomy 21 (which I assume you're trying to refer to) is not the only viable trisomy.

>>9031807
Yes, it is all propaganda.

Trust, am doc

>>9031869
I thought women couldn't even have kids at 40+ due to menopause ?

>>9032639
nigga menopause hits in the late 50s.

My mother was 42 when she birthed my brother, and he's turned out fine so far.

Single women are good for leftist politicians and good for fuckboys.

>>9031807
Odds of birth defects skyrocket after 35

Having a kid after 35 is roughly equivalent to having a kid with your cousin.

>>9031807
>Video brushes off the fact that the rate of birth defects DOUBLES
Think of how much time and money is already spent on treating people with birth defects ranging from autism and downs to congenital heart defects. Now double that. There's the problem with encouraging women to have kids later in life.

>>9031869
>child is gonna have downs
>abort
Problem solved

>>9031896
>it's now against the rules to post on a board unless you have a relevant major

>>9032767
That's not legal in a lot of places.

>>9031807
Born mostly fine when my mom was 38, but my little brother has actual Down's. It's a numbers game.

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I just looked at their sources for the Data he cites saying the risk of birth defects increases from 0.5% to 1%.
So i googled for "mayo clinic april 2014" (popped up on screen when he said that). I couldn't find anything.
Then i googled "adam ruins everything sources" and i got pic related.
The thing is: when i open the link it says nowhere anything like what they're saying. It's only saying:

>Advancing maternal age. A woman's chances of giving birth to a child with Down syndrome increase with age because older eggs have a greater risk of improper chromosome division. A woman's risk of conceiving a child with Down syndrome increases after 35 years of age. However, most children with Down syndrome are born to women under age 35 because younger women have far more babies.

http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/down-syndrome/symptoms-causes/dxc-20337347

>>9032328
What he says is correct, writing 23 instead of 21 was probably a mindless mistake.

>>9032041
Keep thinking that. But we lurk in the shadows and await the proper moment to strike.

>>9031807
>tfw you'll have to provide for an old hag that doesn't love you because you missed out on love.
JUST

>>9031807
Yes. You're using your DNA to produce offspring. Your DNA degrades with time. Honestly, you shouldn't have children if you're over 30, optimal would be 16-25. Of Course, such things don't coincide with modern life, especially not individualism.

>>9032005
I think it takes a year and a half for a medical student to officially have authority over official medical statistics. Sorry.

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just imagine: this vid could go to ~3 million views, like his other vids did. Let's say half of those views are from females (probably more), about 1.5 million. Let's say 1% of those chicks actually decides to have kids later in life due to this vid. So 15000 chicks will get children after 35. According to pic related at 35 there will then be ~40 cases of children with down syndrome and ~80 cases of children with a chromosomal abnormality

>COLLEGEHUMOR COULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR DOZENS OF FUCKING DOWNIES!!!
not even mentioning other complications and diseases...

>>9031807
No of course not, humans used to die at the age of 40. The only thing sustaining us past that is good diet, medical care to suppress death, and a will to live since times aren't ending everywhere. Bitches get ovulating at like 11, ffs just because society doesn't want to admit it, offspring is something the Young create. Not worn our vacuum tubes coated in a thick layer of dust and mold.

>>9031912
Or died in a war

>>9031949
Go back to /pol/

>>9033097
Liberal media is usually this autistic though. If you actually believe that having kids later in life is a good idea, go neck yourself.

>>9033097
Go back to ilovescience. /sci/ is a white board.

>>9033150
no its not, you fuck off poltard and admire your anti-intellectual republicans.

>>9032787
It's also not illegal to get punched in the stomach in those places

>>9031807
>collegehumor claims
You shouldn't post here or reproduce.

>saying the down syndrome rate doubles is misleading
uhhhh

>>9031807
Shit like this is why it doesn't seem that stupid that there might be a conspiracy out there that is trying to genocide whites by outbreeding them. Why the fuck would you make a video telling women it's okay to have children later. You know, maybe it is true that fertility actually only starts to decline at 38 or 40. But this doesn't change the fact that this video is trying to convince white women to not have children. Why the fuck are they doing this?

>>9033187
Occam's razor. What seems more likely, a global jewish cabal is plotting to destroy the white race by brainwashing white women specifically into not having kida, even though the video isn't directed to any particular race, OR, college aged liberals and feminists on the CollegeHumor payroll influence the show's direction and want to add their 2 cents on a matter that they find to be an extension of the patriarchy, people shaming women into having kids because that's supposedly the only thing they're good for.

>>9033063
>>9031869
jesus, it's scary to see how massively those rates go up year by year...

http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-24128176

>>9031962
Why is this encouraged? Who in their right mind thinks it's a good idea to convince women to delay having children?

>>9033402
People who know that fertility rates for older women are way lower. Convince 100 women to give birth after 35 or so, 30-40% of these women will probably not be able to get pregnant at all, so less white babies. The numbers may vary, but the goal here is obvious. The later a woman decides to have babies, the smaller the chance is she will succeed.

>>9033169
Gnarly dude.

>>9031835
>implying medicine is not a science

>>9033530
nutrition, shamanic practices, and dance hold more in store for humanity then any science ever has sold

>>9033096
Very uncommon

>>9032130
Women mature mentally long before men. Their entire role is to be dependent on men and raise kids.

Men go to uni, graduate at 25 or so, get stable job, marry younger woman, have many kids. Everybody wins.

>>9031807
I see people giving their anecdotes so here's mine
My mom gave birth to my little sister at age 35 and that sister has genius tier IQ, got highest scores among us on all standardized tests, made the highest professional achievements of all of us, is fluent in several languages, etc.

More important are the mother's prenatal care, i.e. nutrition/diet of both the mother and fetus

It doesn't make any sense to avoid pregnancy out of fear or rush a pregnancy because you think you need to beat some arbitrary "timer"

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>>9033199
Not exciting enough.

more like college jewmor

>>9031807
This Adam ruins "x" bullshit show is almost as bad as Jordan Klepper solves guns. There's nothing of substance in any of these.

>>9031869
this probably has a bias something to do with the sample size
how many 20 yo vs 49 yo people are having babies?
not a fair comparison

>>9033530
It's not. And the more they try to make so the worse it gets.

"Let food be your medicine."
"Disease starts in the guy."

Some smart guy said these things.

>>9033754
A large part of medicine is using empirical evidence to diagnose problems, and using previous empirical evidence to find the solution. The only time that the science becomes phoney is when alternative medicine proclaims their glory without any valid double-blind trials, as performed by all other valid forms of medicine.

>>9033545
>>9033754
Alternative medicine it's not medicine

>>9032130
Just freeze your eggs when you're young

>>9032772
This actually seems like a good rule

>>9032328
>being that there is no such thing as trisomy 23
you quite sure about that bud?

>>9033403
ANTI RACIST IS CODE FOR ANTI WHITE

>>9033920
i invite it, and assume anyone who doesnt doesnt have a degree.

>>9033653
>being wrong

>>9033920
>>9033924
Don't you think it would be a bit of a problem when 99% of the userbase disappears and there's only one post a week per thread?

>>9033939
No. No, I don't.

Quality > quantity, slowness is directly proportional to board quality

>>9033920
Yes, but you have to actually HAVE the degree. It doesn't count unless you already graduated from undergrad. No excuses, no exceptions.

>>9034265
That would be fine, as long as undergrads and below still get to read posts. Or even better, education level could be listed alongside posts like pol flags

Women should be sterilized at 35. End if story

>>9031869
>mother had me at 41
>born with klinefelter's
hmmmm

>>9033653
Yeah, desu he started out ok, just explaining the origins of common social practices and why they were bullshit, but now he's started to interpret things and its more and more veering down the route of delivering statistics which support a narrative.
Disclaimer: This was not a white genocide video, imo

>>9031835
Ha! You went through all that effort and people responded anyway! Fuck you!

>>9031881
The true statement is that correllation does not IMPLY causation.

(p->q)' == p AND 'q
The statement holds true if and only if we have p=true and 'q=true simultaneously.
However we have p=correlation=true and q=causation=???
Since the truth value of q is uncertain from this chart, the truth value of original statement is moot.

However, given the mountain of heuristic data that shows correlation, it's safe to assume causation and operate on that.
Don't have kids when you're 35, crybaby.
>he-never-took-discrete-math-twice.jpeg

My mom had my sister at 30, me at 33 and my brother at 37. We are all fuck ups. Anything older than later 30 is a now and later than 25 isn't ideal.

>>9031892
Higher genetic load swashing around in your cumballs

>>9032772
Look at the original post in the string, jackass.
The film school autist is playing mod in order to stop some stranger from asking questions on /sci/.
>it's against the rules to talk about medicine on /sci/
>i know what's best for you guys i saw andrei rublev

>>9031926
a higher percentage of people in your bracket are not fine than in the average one

>>9033097
Adam Ruins Everything is totally biased, dude. No /pol/ about it. Every one of his "fact-based opinions" happens to fall in with the in-group's.

>>9033160
Hook, line, and sinker.
>anti-intellectual republicans.
Even more, you admit to taking bait outside of 4chan too. Give John Oliver's cock a break, brainlet.

>>9033173
>not being concerned that beloved mainstream figures peddle falsehoods under the pretense of intellectualism

>>9033199
Pretty much just as shitty and similarly worth complaining about.
The funny part is, claiming that the "natural selection" of the industry which got us here was actually a consciously guided process is the same line of thinking the feminists/progressives/socialists use when talking about patriarchy/white privilege/economics.

>>9033273
note the sources on those graphs: none, and outdated.

>>9033402
GOTTA BE COOL AND ANTI-ESTABLISHMENT, DUDE
STOP LISTENING TO LAME AF BABY BOOMERS
THEY WANNA STOP YOU FROM EATING PIZZA FOR BREAKFAST.

>>9033403
In the eyes of the people that make these shows, their viewership is diverse enough that it's not a problem. To believe that more white people are watching than blacks and arabs is racist.

That being said...I guarantee you black and and arab intellectuals eat this shit up.
It's not a white thing, it's a college-going millennial thing.

>>9033754
>i was cucked by a pre-med student

>>9032328
Well being trisomic for the 23rd chromosome does exist and it's called klienfielters syndrome

>>9033636
A mother that takes good care of the fetus with healthy diet and mozart vs one that does all that AND is young is probably going to have the better baby.

>>9031926
>doesn't understand basic statistics
>"fine"
I mean, you're probably able to "function" in the same way that most downies do, but I wouldn't really call that fine.

>>9034250
>brainlets can't into google
Maybe you should just browse an actual science forum instead of >4chan

>>9033636
My mom had me when she was 20 and I'm way smarter than your sister and also I fucked her.

>>9034604
1996 seems adequately recent
If you on the other hand have more recent and contrary sources, please cite them
it doesn't do much good to merely point out a study is old if you don't have anything to disprove the old data

the youtube comment section is the worst

>>9034583
That's just because reality has an in-group bias. Maybe you shouldn't be objectively wrong?

>>9035137
>the youtube comment section is the first
Ftfy

>>9033199
Wouldn't it be even simpler to say they wanted to feel good about themselves waiting so long to have kids so they got some scientists to justify their actions?

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>>9035135
not the guy, but here is a more recent statistic
from Macleod's Clinical examinations (2013 pp.229), used by Medical students in the UK

>>9033663
on the contrary you only need to have 30 pregnancies of 45-y.o mothers to have a down syndrome, whereas you need 1500 pregnancies at 20-y.o.,
i.e.:you don't need same numbers of cases to compare them.

>>9031869
>tfw mom had me at 19

>>9035669
ouch, you hit 1 in 2,300? I would tell you to buy a lottery ticket but I'm not sure you're allowed