Hello /sci/, I was wondering if we could have an educated discussion

>>8986236
This is /sci/.

/sci/ does not understand anything not put in terms of mathematics. If you could restate what you said in terms of radians, meters, limits, and such instead of socio-political terms like hetero-facination and women. What is a woman anyway?

>>8986236

You're not completely straight, in fact you are a faggot.

The reason your masters in the (((media))) have been telling you "it's not gay to fuck men!" is because they want you to fail as a man and not to pass on your evildumb white genes.

>>8986236
source of pic?

>>8986297
b8/10

>>8986236
Because your brain is probably not registering this person as a man. It's quite striking looking at the picture how seamlessly he passes for a woman.

>>8986236
Youre cringe and kill yourself

>>8986322
Wow you're so edgy.

>>8986236
>absolutely destroy pic related, despite the biological similarities
Huh?
Your thoughts are anti-educated. Only short-tempered brainlets intent to overkill without legitimate purpose.

>>8986332
"id destroy it" bajajahahaha kys

>>8986236
The reason that you'd smash is because (she) is displaying feminine features that tell you that she is a good potential mate. It's not really gay to fap to the face of a trap if you don't have the prior knowledge that they're a trap, because you're pleasuring yourself to feminine things. The problem comes when you have someone who has transitioned fully and you know full and well that their vag is an inside out penis. I've been thinking about this lately and whether or not I would because it's an unusual area. I'd one has the mind of a woman but the body of a man, who then transitions to be more like a woman, is it then gay? The definition of gay I feel shouldn't encompass trans women because gay is supposed to be attraction to masculine features, but also biologically it's a dude. Idk

>>8986344
I'm not OP.

>>8986342
Look at this dude. Look at the top of his head

>>8986236
A combination of society being more accepting of transgender people, and also an acceptance of non-heterosexality among men. If liking traps makes me a little gay that's fine. People don't like the word gay so they will still call themselves straight while still liking traps. And that's fine too honestly. All these labels are just generalizations. It's not a science, it's all cultural/social and constantly changing.

>>8986236
>I am completely straight, but I would fuck someone of my gender

I think it is time to come to the definitions. What is the definition of gay? For our purposes, gays are men who fuck or want to fuck men.

You want to fuck a man, so you are gay. Notice that in the definition of gay there is no mention of how the man looks, it just mentions fucking a man.

So you are gay. Definition gay. But if you think there should be a distinction between your homosexuality, and the homosexuality of a guy who fucks bearded and ripped men then I agree. Maybe we should have different classifications of gay. But regardless, you are fucking gay.

>>8986267
Nice
Completely unironically agree

Your only quantifiable statement, recent, is also poorly defined and unsourced.

>>8986349
What is wrong with it?

>>8986361
It's a meme.

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>>8986236
>tfw I was best friends with this person in high school before they cut their dick off
Not even joking.

Its normal to be attracted to pic posted because they look female, most wouldnt know theyre a trap from it. It becomes gay when you associate the fact that they have a penis

>>8986352
Is it gay to unknowingly fuck someone with tits and a vagina but who has xy chromosomes? Because there's a disorder where developmentally, testosterone does nothing to the fetus so that the baby has x16 but doesn't develop a penis or balls, and instead looks like a woman. Sometimes even the person doesn't know that they have this

>>8986371
How were they as a dude

>>8986378
No because its not KNOWN. Theyre not making a conscious choice to fuck a man. And people being born intersex and/or the example you gave is completely different from a healthy male making artificial changes to appear as a woman

>>8986385
Pretty awesome. They were who introduced me to 4chan in the first place. They had this whole crypto-
anarchist computer hacker thing going on. Definitely a very interesting person to talk to.

The estrogen sort of normie-ified them a bit though, which is sad because they were insanely smart.

>>8986371
Did you really know Luke?

>>8986404
>implying their name is Luke
Apparently they posted a few pictures on /lgbt/ and now everyone is creeping over them.

>>8986378
Is it gay to fuck a man if you don't know he is a man? Yes, it is gay.

Are you gay if you fuck a man if you don't know he is a man? No it isn't. But when you find out you will most likely think "fuck that was gay".

>>8986408

Well, unless he intentionally used a fake name, Luke was what he called himself and what he wanted people to call him long before he transitioned.

>>8986414
I wouldn't doubt it. They previously went to great lengths to erase themselves from the internet in high school in order to preserve their privacy. This even meant calling into the state track and field office, saying they got his name wrong and supplying a misspelled version instead.

>>8986420
lmao wtf

what happened?

>>8986371
Dude, that's so crazy, because that dude in your pic was the neighbor of my best friend growing up!

>>8986423
They changed it. You have no idea how much bullshit we got ourselves into while eating lunch in the basement.

>>8986440
Wow, how long have you lived in Russia? Did Perelman share his hobo math genius magic with you?

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>>8986236
There are few youtube videos about this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMoEs7eQeZE
is a decent one

>inb4 neurologist

anyway one thing i do want to point out that true homosexuality is not defined by genitalia but rather overall attraction to masculinity
trap chasers do not want any masculinity in fact they want soft, curvy feminine features; presence of a penis, on an otherwise what seems look like a completely female person without a trace of any other masculine features, is a sexual stimulant

in porn, what would you rather watch a girl using toys or being rammed by a dick?
as most men, you'd chose the second option
that's because you mentally relate better to a penis, you watch BJ videos because you can imagine what it feels like not because you're gay

Another thing to consider is dominance and control

Before this post gets too long, I'd like all people who consider attraction to traps gay even after seeing the penis, the following:

if the genitalia is the only determining factor of sexuality, you would prefer to fuck a muscular man-like hairy person with a vagina rather then a feminine woman-like person with a penis

>>8986477
t. homo in denial

>>8986483
nope, just comfortable with my sexuality

did you know men search (large) penises in porn more than women per capita of people who watch porn?

let that sink and stop using homosexuality as a derogatory term

>>8986491
>wants to fuck biological males in the ass
>not gay

Kek

whos this cumdump

>>8986477
This seems believable, but what exactly means by «control» or «dominance»?
Every time I hear about those biology-related stuff, I wish for rigorous explaining all of it.

>>8986236
>Why is this?

It's an evolutionary advantage to be attracted to all female features generally -- not just female genitalia. That's because in many cases a woman's genitalia is not directly visible (due to clothing, posture, angle of view, etc.). A male who is attracted to all features that superficially appear female will be more successful in finding partners to reproduce with.

If a male is attracted to someone who has female features but male genitalia, there is little evolutionary disadvantage in that case. That's because a vast majority of semen is wasted anyway (due to masturbation, etc.), so wasting a little more semen on the occasional female-looking male will do little to reduce the overall spread of semen during his lifetime.

>>8986664
>is not attracted to feminine features
>has low sex drive towards femininity
>not gay

>>8986371
does this guy know about Ricci flow?

>>8986816
>knows it has a cock and balls
>ignores it

>>8988068
it's not weird if it's just descended ovaries and an enlarged cli-torus?

>some vocal shitheads say doing something is bad cause they said so and that sex without the intention of breeding is bad
>more become interested

what a big mystery, really

>>8986236
Who is she?

>>8986236
There is no "recent hetero-fascination with transgender women" outside of 4chan

>>8986322
Use of the word cringe in this way is now the easiest indicator of underage b&

>>8988095
There is though. The thing is people are not going to talk about how much they want to fuck a feminine cock in their facebook or twitter profile.

Whos this semen demon

>>8988187
If it's not something people talk about then how the fuck are you gauging it retard? Maybe you're just projecting your newest personal fetish.

>>8988097
I'm 20 and did it on purpose just to get the retarded highschoolers such as yourself who like calling everyone "kid" because they're 2 years older than them. Exposed and destroyed, your /sci/ career is over.

>>8988258
>tehehe joke's on him I was just PRETENDING to be retarded

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>>8986236
It's a safe way to suck cock, and even be fucked by cock, without feeling shame. Someone who is ashamed of their fascination with dick can circumvent their shame of not fitting into the heteronormative ideal by finding a feminine male. Those who are unsuccessful with women can use transwomen's desperation for approval to their advantage.

Personally? I just love androgyny.

T. woman dating a transwoman

>>8988303
>Damage controlling so hard you have to quote a meme that doesn't even apply

>>8988303
>>8988372
Let me intervene and say that we can all agree the two of you are the world's biggest faggots.

>>8986352
Gay is exclusive attraction to what you believe are the same gender. Bisexual is I will fuck or be fucked by anybody. Straight is exclusive attraction to what you believe to be the opposite gender.

If you like both chicks and chicks with dicks, you're bi.

Colloquially, gay means you have had or will have sexual relations (will consensually bone the same gender in some context where you're both capable of consenting reasonably), this means bi is also gay in colloquial usage but technically incorrect in colloquial usage.

>>8988189
bump for this

Well unlike gender, sexuality is actually a spectrum. By that i mean you're a somewhat bit bisexual but still have a preference for women.
Sorry for the brainlet answer but i belive it's supported by the science.

People are becoming ever more jaded. The proliferation of porn and the increasing normalization of casual sex is leading people to become bored with "normal" modes of sex. This isn't really a new phenomenon. It makes sense that there is an increasing appetite for variety.

>>8991775
bill nye is that you????

>>8986236
fuck off emily. that's the best picture of you. 90% of your picture are fucking disgusting and get you clocked immediately. the tranny in the OP is a gigantic narcissist. degenerate human being, they're a tranny though so no surprise. you wouldn't fuck it unless you were the most desperate person on the planet. they're nuts.