Describe the moment when you ditched quantum mysticism (aka Copenhagen

>>8984969
Go jump in a lake, David Bohm.

>>8984969
When I read this thread

When I become an atheist

>>8984969
When I realized that the universe had to be deterministic under cellular automaton.

>>8985356
>When you realize you didn't need to know about cellular automation to know the universe is deterministic and we have no free will.

Describe the moment when you ditched quantum mysticism (aka Copenhagen interpretation) and embraced multi-universe theory

>>8984969
Fuck off /his/. The non-equilibrium hypothesis has never been experimentally verified, I'm not leaving wave mechanics without good reason.
>>8985464
>Bro, what if instead of the wavefunction collapsing to a single value, your measurement apparatus is in fact the thing that collapses from a superposition of possible apparatuses.
>That's more reasonable, r...right?
I hate interpretation fags.

>>8984969
Go read those Landau textbooks again, obviously half of it went over your head.

>>8984969
I don't know, OP, why won't you decribe the moment when you completely ditched locality and non-contextuality?

I don't think anyone can ever believe pilot wave theory after reading the proof of the Kochen-Specker theorem.

>>8985363
>when you realize the universe made you post that horrible shitpost

>>8985464
>worries why electron goes left or right
>doesn't worry when universes pop up left and right

if this isn't religion, nothing is

>>8985513
decoherence bro?

>>8985752
Any property of a quantum system should be interpretation independent.

>>8985765
>>8985747
Funny, because multi universe will be proven correct very soon

>>8985776
>Interpretation
>Proven
Kek.

>>8984969
>giving this much of a shit about interpretation
it's interesting and all but it's not physics.
>>8985776
many worlds* and no, it won't

>>8985776
multiverse =/= many-worlds

>>8985869
did you even study physics? if PWT is correct it would set physics back about 30 years in terms of QFT, because the two theories were never properly merged.

>>8985738
>I don't think anyone can ever believe pilot wave theory after reading the proof of the Kochen-Specker theorem.

Well now I know you have no proper understanding of Kochen-Specker....

You realize the types of hidden variables used in Pilotwave theory are not the type excluded by Kochen-Specker. In fact John Bell was a huge proponent of PWT.

>>8984969
I never took the copenhagen interpretation seriously in the first place

some people are simply born intelligent :^)

yeah, I'm an aerodynamicist. I'm still figuring out how to outsmart Navier-Stokes, but by all means let me espouse my uneducated opinion on mystic quantum whodunit.

When I realized everything is subjective and explanations are pointless since nothing matters.
I hate my life, and dad.

>>8986091
I never said Kochen-Specker excludes PW's hidden variables, but it forces the theory to be completely contextual, which basically makes the theory pointless.

File: Bell_Theorem_SOM.gif (12KB, 688x282px) Image search: [Google]

12KB, 688x282px

When I realized Many Worlds is correct

What about the Boltzmann brain Copenhagen fags?

>>8986632
>2017 /sci/ prize for greatest maymay