Why does this board hate medical students? Is it envy? Or

disdain for the less gifted and mundane

>>8933662
I don't like nursing students because they're cliquey, predominantly female, and bitch about how hard their major is on social media. They're like computer science majors, but they aren't even aware their major is a meme.

Is she an archaeologist? Because I got a large bone for her to examine.

>>8933662
is not very intellectually stimulating.
it's not easy to memorize 10000 different proteins, sugars, fats and other organic molecules, but you don't need to be intelligent either

>>8933662


>Med School
>Rote Memorization
>Kek

>>8933662

You touch sick people for a living.

>>8933662
My best mate is a med student. I dated a med student. They're airtight but their superiority complex is often stronger than normal for students.

my girlfriend is studying for her MCAT. Its funny that she is struggling to understand the concepts after getting straight As so she could get a good transcript. Straight fucking As through all of gen chem, ochem, biochem, physics and bio. Its nothing but rote memorization and sucking up for letters of recommendation.

>>8933662
They can't keep a conversation that doesn't revolves around them.

>>8933716
this

Honestly, probably because they feel like doctors get a lot of undeserved recognition. This is as opposed to them (I'm assuming math/basic science grad student types) who do a lot of research, but people assume they're just burnout pre-meds. Just my guess

It's because of your noble beginning as a healer and teacher of good health you have transformed into a shill for big pharma and teacher of nothing.

They think they are hotshot even when you make more than them.

Example, I make 510k personal profit for my company, parents know this, friends know this, everyone knows this.
But when a doctor comes along they all compare the doc to me being at a higher level, even though doc here makes less $$$ than me.

Also from when I was in school all the medkids acted holier than thou, even though their shit was easy and I doubt any of them could have finished a degree in engineering or in physics.

Also it does piss me off that rote memorization and 80hours rotation weeks is seemingly special and taken as being extremely difficult.


Idk op, maybe it because I make more than them but they are put on a higher societal scale than me, even though I worked less than they did in a quarter of the time.

Straight up a lot of them are cunts, and when I mention how much money they make, they get all hostile, even the old farts and they start comparing me to them, I usually just bluntly say I make more money than you from going to school for 4 years instead of using up 12 years of my life, also i'm fit as fuck and can fight so I can get away with that shit.

But they are generally fucking cunts m8, wall street boys make fun of them and I like making fun of them even though they act like cunts.

They act like it's the hardest shit in the world and if you see a nurse working a long shift you should kiss their feet as a sign of massive respect for their gracious sacrifice.

Also, Gray's Anatomy put female med-students (90% of them) on a pedestal and they believe every person they treat is a life personally saved, as opposed to the actuality where they are mostly wiping asses and pouring out piss cans and being the doctor's bitch.

>>8933686
Summed it up well.

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>>8933975
cringe that you tell everyone your earnings
between that and your insisting that people's worth is measure by the money they make I'm detecting a personality issue here.

>>8933662
3rd year med student here that's laughing his ass off at all of you thinking that medicine is just memorization.

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>>8933662
Because /sci/ is actually /math/ and for those who just like to shit post.

That being said what's with the increase in medical related threads? Not that I mine, hell I need some advice on if I should retake the MCAT but /sci/ doesn't seem like a great place to ask.

>>8933662
Medicine is a glorified trade it is neither math nor science

They are the biology/chemistry equivalent of engineers

>>8934064
>implying 3/4 of physicians aren't in it primarily for the cash and prestige

Get that shit outta here you dumbfuck

>>8934142
Prestige sure but dedicating all those years and hard work for a physicians salary is incredibly stupid. You would make far more for less work with a PhD in finance and other business paths.

Get that shit out of here you even bigger dumb fuck.

>>8934149
Normies still think it makes good money nigga get outta here

>>8933686
what does a meme mean in /sci/ context?

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>>8933662

>>8933716
this desu

>>8933662
>sees people hating on med students
>assumes that it's out of envy
THIS is part of the reason I hate med students... they think everyone automatically wants to be them.

Self-absorbance, arrogance.
Also, you ruin the rest of the bio and chem courses.

>>8933662
You bitched the entire semester about how hard Calc II was saying "this professor sucks!" when you were actually just a terrible student who had no natural talent, which isn't inherently a bad thing, but you also didn't make an effort and chalked up your poor performance to your perceived faults of the professor.

ADDITIONALLY, you act like hot shit. You think your field is the only thing that fucking matters when this is just patently false. You generally disregard the merit of other fields of study, circle-jerking each other about how you're going to be such great doctors one day when it is most likely the case that you'll all end up as washed up with little to no real accomplishments.

Sure doctors and nurses provide a noble service to the world, but you are not the greatest people in the world. Also to anyone who is planning on being a simple general practitioner, you will be replaced by machines.

>>8933662
ITT: really salty individuals.

>>8933975
Holy fuck, you must have a microscopic penis

>>8933662
They make fun of them because the work a doctor does isn't on the same intellectual level as a scientist/mathematician.

>>8934337
The vast majority of work a scientist does can literally be done by a trained monkey. Mathematicians, that's a different story.

>>8934338
Can you elaborate on the work a scientist does? I've read a statistics textbook for scientists and engineers and it seems like they just blindly use techniques like ANOVA that they know nothing about.

>>8934342

You don't need to know about something if you know it's what you should use for your situation.

It's like paint, you know you need a green so you use the green paint, the chemical make-up isn't important.

>>8934360
Ya, like using bleach and ammonia to clean up a spill!

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Well, in my country, those that are the best in chemistry, biology, math and physics in high school tend to go into medicine. Not only because it's well respected, but because the MD helps a lot in research world. It's easier for me to get into some wetlab research by saying I'm a med student than by being a cell/molecular biology student.

Also, turns out I really find surgery interesting.

>>8934065
You're right, it's not even that, you just end up googling everything anyway.

>>8934416
O shit

>>8933686
Kek this is a mighty redpill senpai.

Also only clicked thread becos attractive brunette gril.

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>>8934532
Have some more attractive brunette gril.

>>8934149
Most people don't understand return on investment. While being a med student provides horrifyingly terrible ROI until you are at least 40, most people get meme'd by the insane money making ability and prestige of being a doctor once you are about 45+

The degrees that have best immeadiate ROI are probably finance, applied math degrees (if you become an actuary or absolutely anything that is in finance), and Engineering. Engineering has slow wage growth so you have to go become a consultant or manage other engis to actually make a lot of money as opposed to a slow crawl from middle class to upper-middle class, finance and by extension their applied math buddies don't have to worry about this.

>>8934142
>t. not physicist

>>8934624
>t. not an english speaker

>>8934416
underrated

>>8934416
hilarious

>>8934242
A meme degree is one that normies believe will earn them a fuckload of money immediately out of college and thus are inundated with a bunch of morons who think basic tasks in their field are a challenge.

>>8933975
Your penis must be very small you insecure twat.
You don't become a MD or DO for the money. You do it because you genuinely want to relieve people of their suffering.

>>8934065
1st year math student laughing his ass off that you think I care what you study.

>>8934835
do you think the majority of these Indian and Chinese overachievers who only care about their grades actually have compassion for others?

>>8934835
>You do it because you genuinely want to relieve people of their suffering.

Partially true. It's job security, sort of decent money, different specializations for different personalities, interesting job AND relieving people of their suffering.
As a 4th year medfag I understand that it's a bad return of investment but I would also hate myself if I ended up being code monkey or crunching numbers all day.

They are kings of the brainlets

>>8933686
let them have it. they have a life time of being underpaid and over worked. as the hospital they work for staffs only a third of the nurses actually needed.
>>8933662
because the med school dropouts come back to the STEM colleges to use their credits toward a chemistry or biology degree. while they still act like they are better.

>>8933716
This

>>8933975
>tiny penis detected

here's a reply for your self esteem OP

>>8933689
No, shes a botux covered pseudo-porn actress from bongland

this thread is fucking hell. your opinions dont matter !!!

>>8933662
Still less autism than maths students.

>>8933686
I don't understand how Compsci is a meme. Is it because any coding language can be self taught? Because by that root, universities shouldn't even matter since everything can be self taught. I would appreciate an explanation.

>>8933686
>nursing
>medical student

Nursing is not medicine. It's nursing. It's not a hard major but the work is hard. It's basically a labor job. The pay is justified. If anything, nurses don't get paid enough.

>>8933662
Dunno. As a pre-med that majored in physics, I've never encountered many of my "ilk."

>>8935362
best programmers barely graduated college.....

>>8935362

>I don't understand how Compsci is a meme

Because it's full of idiots who are just barely doing enough to get by. You don't find people like that in Mathematics or Physics.

>Because by that root, universities shouldn't even matter since everything can be self taught. I would appreciate an explanation.

Meh, I'd contest that lab skills can be self taught. Procuring lab materials is much more difficult for a civilian than getting what is necessary to learn math/computer science (i.e. excellent textbooks [Most of the classic books are available online] and a computer made post 2010)

>>8935379
Ya right

>>8934961
>bongland

So uh, the Netherlands?

>>8933662
Because of shit like this that gets published.

https://math.berkeley.edu/~ehallman/math1B/TaisMethod.pdf

>>8935525
How new are you

Being a biofag, premeds become extremely annoying. They don't care about the science or biology in the slightest, and often complain about learning biology that doesn't relate to fucking medicine.

>>8934841
>1st year math student
>says he doesn't care but posts in this thread
k

>>8935525
fuck off newfag

>>8935525
that is a really good bait. anon, im gonna use that.

I am studying to be a surgeon, however I do dislike most med students. They're hard to have an intellectual conversation with, are predominantly female, don't appreciate math or science, and just want to do their job because it's "helping people" or society looks up to doctors. It's really sad to see this stuff. Just go on YouTube and watch some videos med students put out and you'll understand.

>>8934541
> freckles
> not once

>>8933662
Fuck med kids, fuck science fags, and fuck unemployable math cunts. Business school is where its at.

>>8934541
her nose looks jewish. she can no longer be anything above a 6/10.

>>8935721
you think you're hot shit mr, I'M A BIG SHOT SURGOEN. Why don't you just kill yourself. i hope you leave a scalpel in some dudes asshole when doing surgery on his asshole, and then you get sued big bucks. fuck you. i hate surgery students more than all other students. you're all nothing but big babies.

>>8935680
>fuck off newfag
look at this newfag trying to act like an oldfag. newfags, when will they lern?.

>>8933662
Wow she's beautiful.

Are there any videos of her getting spit roasted and/or anal gaping?

>>8935721
writing however in the middle of a sentence without appositive commas....

WEW

>>8934841
>>8935585
>1st year math student
enough said

>>8935370
So if it's such a shit job, then they can STFU about it, right?

>>8935431
>Because it's full of idiots who are just barely doing enough to get by. You don't find people like that in Mathematics or Physics
Nice projecting. There are successful people in every field.

>>8933975
>they are generally fucking cunts m8
Writes a fucking essay on superiority to doctors and generalizes millions of kids off less than 20 ppl

>>8935747
Her nose is broken.

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>>8934416

>>8935379
Hey, I'm premed majoring in Physics! Neat. There aren't many of us.

>>8934835
http://www.medicalschoolsuccess.com/med-school-hell-all-about-the-benjamins/

>>8934416
Genuwine laff

>>8934302
>medical student
>calc II

wot?

You faggots are confusing pre-meds with medical students. A small fraction of pre-meds actually make it to medical school, and none of you probably interact with any med students in your classes.

>>8934541
god she's beautiful.

8/10 would approach her and mumble at my feet while she laughs at me

>>8935459
underrated

>>8936208
If you want to interact with med students, just go to a teaching hospital. Watch for a group of people in lab coats moving together all over the place. The one at the front is the actual medic, the rest are all students. They'll do all the crappy boring work and then report back to the doctor.

>>8934276

I TA'd a bunch of chem labs and the students that kept haggling over 1-2 points on a lab report were invariably pre-meds. Very annoying when the paper is already >95/100.

>>8933686
>Nurses think their job is "complicated"
How hard is it to swap out a shit pan?

>>8936214
>kept haggling over 1-2 points on a lab report

That's just basic survival skill. Those 1-2 points might seem like nothing to you but in medical school, where everyone will be smart and get like 95% grades, those measly 2 points might represent the difference between matching into radiology or family medicine. People will literally do anything for those points. In my experience medical school was a sociopath breeding ground. People worked not only to increase their grades but to put classmates down. One woman arrived early, hid the patient charts from the rest of us and then told us the class had been canceled to make go home.

Just give them the points and they'll go away quickly and leave you alone. Take solace in the fact medical school will turn their lives into hell and make unpaid hospital slaves out of them. They will work more hours than they're legally allowed to with zero recourse.

>>8936214
Are you that guy who fucked the premeds in that epic graduate student general thread?

>>8936207
most medical schools require a bare minimum of calc 2

>>8936274
sorry I'm not american, we don't have pre-med here.

>>8936274
Wait what? Why the fuck do doctors have to tale calculus? They'd be better off taking statistics.

>>8936303
its better than using trapeziums to estimate the area under metabolic curves

>>8936310
Nobody calculates areas under curves in medical practice.

99th percentile MCAT. Rejected from 30 med schools presumably from largely talking about how I want to build AIs that'll do their job.

Any questions?

>>8936356
>things that never happened

>>8936311
lurk moar

>>8936356
>in the top 99%

wow, impressive

>>8936356
>Any questions?
Who cares?

Can some of you answer me this, every time i work in jobs with a lot of sweat and physical activity then i get cysts, under my arm, inside thighs and near my asshole.

What is the cause? And is there a cure?

>>8936604
why dont you just google it like any doctor would according to this thread?

>>8936608
Because it only shows a lot of shit about cysts on ovaries.

My doctor told me the other day, that my body was just like this. Then laughed at me.

Going back to him on tuesday to hear if he's got any more options

>>8936614
post pic

>>8936619
The asshole cyst is diagnosed as pilonidal cysts. You can google images of it

The rest is a mystery

>>8935741
If you know you want money, this is the best answer desu

>>8936356
You probably got rejected because you were an unimpressive candidate with unrealistic expectations. Straight to the reject pile with all the kids who were going to cure cancer.

>>8933662
Because they write the dumbest fucking reviewer comments as well as responses to edits. The vast majority of MDs have no place in research, and the vast majority of pre med undergrads are the cancer of science grad students.

They're also all gung ho about learning basic surgery but too arrogant to git gud at it and I usually have to interrupt and finish it for them.

>>8933693
You're overestimating what they have to memorize

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more of this qt3.141592653589793238462643383279502884197169399375105820974944592307816406286 2089986280348

>>8935362
compsci != programming

>>8935362
It's watered down mathematics for brainlet plebs.

t. Ex CS major currently Math+Stats

>>8933975
Agreed that they're cultish cunts and assholes. And all the replies to you can go fuck themselves.
They're hostile sadistic control freaks.
>Ahahaha I say if you're insane, sick, dumb and charge you 75$ for a check up.
>If I'm a real asshole I'll "accidentally" mess up the dosage and then call the guards pr sue if you dare fight back.

I don't know about your doctors and med assistants, but the ones from my country are complete psychopaths. They can't feel, care, judge, respect their patients despite being much dumber than the patient.

The med job makes you a natural unfeeling retard and you don't need intelligence compared to knowledge.
So you end up being a bitter idiot or a power hungry idiot who knows them all, but can't apply that knowledge in an intelligent and morally correct manner to save their own lives.

If I ever, ever become president of any country. I am treating all doctors like shit and coercing them into being submissive.
Doctors and assistants would be objectively chosen on their benevolence and humble traits found in their brain.
A patient would sue them for the simplest stuff. A doctor calling a cop inside a hospital would be illegal. A doctor writing official letters like "he's insane, he can't exit himself, he takes the pills and stays here as much as I tell him" no, no more bullshit power tripping for these smug gore-loving, drug-enabling autists.

You ever saw a confident submissive doctor that doesn't prioritize his coffee over you or his snarky remarks? I didn't. It's like MASH, but without the "lol I'm naturally good at this so shut up". No the medical area has become school/politics/prison/religion 101. Everyone is an asshole, a power obsessed freak, a pseudo intellectual, a morally incorrect sociopath, a communist.
And the environment they operate in is just disgusting. Hasn't anyone thought of keeping the medicine in a void space so it doesn't smell like acid? Or not painting the walls white?

Doctors, fuck 85% of them.

>>8937737
>Doctors and assistants would be objectively chosen on their benevolence and humble traits found in their brain.

Med school kills those parts of the brain.

math brainlets cant handle it

It starts with pre-meds. They haven't really done shit besides saying they're "pre-med", and yet they think that they're smarter and work harder and have more rigorous course loads than anyone else. And, of course, they love telling everyone all of these things.

When they get in the first two years of med school, they're even more insufferable. The same applies, but now they're also in med school so their egos are absolutely out of control. It takes until their third or fourth years of med school for them to be beaten down in their rotations to get some sense after having smoke blown up their asses for the last however many years.

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Scrolled through to provide my opinions. I was a TA while studying for my MS and PhD in statistics. I will first say that it is not only premeds but also nursing students.

In the USA, admission to nursing BSN programs and med school are fierce. So students do everything they can to get at least 1 point higher than everyone else in the class, just to increase their chance of acceptance.

I have had to TA (teach, just run quizzes/exams by the professor before giving them) basic and intermediate statistics (no calculus required) almost every semester, and it's the same shit everytime.

>be me
>AFUCKINGWHITEMALE.png
>give quiz/exam
>post solutions on blackboard afterwards
>grading rubric is very clear and lenient
>fuckers are banging down my office door before I have even started grading
>literally15minsafterthetestWTF.gif
>fuckers start begging for extra points
>won't gtfo after telling them I won't grade until later
>start complaining about my "privileged" class
>blah blah blah

Then at the end of the semester these fuckwits are begging for extra credit, even though syllabus says no. Email blowing up, banging on my office door like a SWAT raid, etc.

It's mentally exhausting, and don't even get me started on the cheating!

incoming DO student here, not sure why this board hates medicine and thinks it's not a "science"

that med student you think is more arrogant than you can save your life one day, that other one is gonna be doing some important research

>>8936604

sounds like swollen lymph nodes, which really does just happen to some people after a lot of exercise

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>>8938813
>this board hates medicine
I don't hate it all. The premed students can be a bit much. See my post >>8938771 I have nothing but all the love in the world for doctors. Without doxing myself, I know the struggle that medical personnel deal with on a daily basis. It's the shit that I described that is the problem. It is systemic, unfortunately.

>>8936303
I had to take stats in my undergrad as well

>>8936377
Please educate yourself before you make another post like this

>>8938771
I'm pre med but I wanna hear about the cheating if you have any good stories.

Tell me a story uncle TA.

>>8934869
I'm doing it to help people. I can't speak for others

t.Chinaman

>>8933716
This

>>8933662
cause your pay is disproportiate to your intellect, breh.

Pre-meds can be chill, but the ones that aren't push one of /sci/'s buttons by being intellectually insincere or by having "impure" intentions.

One thing repeated a lot in this thread is haggling for that one extra point. While this is obnoxious in its own right, if they deserve the points they should get them. The part that upsets /sci/ is that this behavior indicates that they aren't in the class to learn the material, but to get a piece of paper that says they know it.

/sci/ is in the class because the material interests them. /sci/ wants to make a career out of what they're studying, so the pursuit of the discipline becomes something personal to them. When /sci/ sees someone who doesn't seem to care for the discipline (chemistry, math, biology, etc) presume to be one of the best because some test scores, they see something they have personal attachment to being turned into a game.

Others have mentioned dishonesty: that pre-meds are in it for the money. To a lesser extent, I feel upset by the opposite extreme as well: being in pre-med ONLY because they want to help others. While I find this reason morally sound and I admire their pursuit of justice, you often find pre-meds who just don't belong in science and shit-up classes because of it. These ones beg for extra credit and feel entitled to it because they're going to use it as a means to pursue their morally sound goal. My problem with this is that I don't think intention is enough and that it still doesn't show a respect for the discipline /sci/ respects.

>>8935552
isn't this just integration?

>>8933662

Because of shit like:

>I don't like med
>"You are just envy!!!!!!!1111!!!!!!!!"
>"I earn 400k year and I lo0ve my job!!!!111"

Fuck off med students why do you think everyone is envy

They won't sleep with me.

>>8933748
>doctors get a lot of undeserved recognition
>Greys Anatomy
>ER
>All the fucking others!!
What??

>>8935747
I like jewish girls desu

>>8935578
>They don't care about the science or biology in the slightest, and often complain about learning biology that doesn't relate to fucking medicine
This part winds me up so fucking much, my AS bio and chem classes were full of fuckers like these that couldn't comprehend even the simplest reaction mechanisms like free radical substitution and electrophillic addition

>>8933662
Why would anyone want to be a doctor? I don't get it. It seems like an absolutely horrible job, you essentially work in a sewer, when you are accidentally not killing your patents you are learning about how other doctors accidentally didn't kill their patients. You are a bitch to the pharmaceutical companies who grease your worn out signature writing hand with a new camera or some shit so that you shovel their sugar pills.
Long shifts, bad working conditions, having to spend a lot of your time off still learning how to not kill someone.
Only the most intelligent retards become doctors.

>>8942916
Social prestige, money, some people might actually like it even though you don't (I know it sounds weird).

>>8942925
>some people might actually like it even though you don't (I know it sounds weird).
Impossible

Because very few of them actually want to help, and most just want to make money or have the recognition of being a doctor (I'm convinced it's recognition moreso than money, although money is a close second). A friend of mine got into med school and I can't talk to him without him bringing up medical school or some aspect of life that relates to it every 5 minutes ("whoa I have to think about getting an apartment, whoa I have to give up my social life, whoa I'm gonna be doing nothing but studying, whoa this is gonna be the rest of my life, whoa what about MD/PhD" etc). I'm happy that his hard work paid off but sweet Christ we know you're going to med school.

If there was some universal rule that premeds or med students couldn't talk about trying to go to or going to med school nobody would be premed, nobody would go to med school. They just love to hear themselves gush about it.

Also a lot of them seem holier-than-thou. Not to mention they continually shit up chemistry courses because they can't into listening or applying knowledge and logic to questions and answers they didn't memorize in advance. They can't just read the material or listen to figure things out for themselves--it has to be spelled out for them explicitly.

>t. went to premed-centric undergrad as a non-premed

you fucks are insufferable

Wow the insecurity in this thread is so thick I can chew it.

>>8934835
Kek. This is a lie. There are of course such people, but the majority go for the money and prestige. Also by the time you're fully trained all that naive bullshit is out of your head. It's not a coincidence medics have one of the most cynical, dark and edgy professional humor out there. Source: both parents are doctors.

>>8936310
If I ever see one of you faggots in real life I'm gonna use trapeziums to measure the area of your asshole after I've found a Parametric equation, to know the exact amount of dick that can fit there.

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I'm a 2nd year medical student in the UK coming up to my end of year exams. The in school competition isn't that bad here compared to the US but getting in was very competitive.

Once you're in it's kind of like the less you care about medicine the cooler you are. Everyone despises medics that only talk about medicine things so looking unassuming by being a scruffy bastard who gets smashed weekly seems like the aim of most fellow medics.

Everyone is so fake though with how they talk to you. They are all extraverted and really outgoing which is really uncomfortable in social situations as you have no idea about peoples actual opinions of you. This makes the class very cliquey and everyone bitches behind peoples backs.

It's also a well incestuous course, any girl you talk to has either been with another medical student you know or has a long term significant other.

Everyone says they came into medicine to help people and all that bullshit but I highly doubt this.

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A Nordic med homo here, 4 out of 6 years completed today. Studied chemistry for two years before passing the admission test.

I don't think the rote memorization is actually a thing (maybe in America, no idea). Much easier to remember and understand things as parts of the huge messy system that the human body is.

Also, many of the other students are annoyingly good in everything, they socialize, travel the world, attend all sorts of activities, study hard and ace the tests, have healthy personal relationships etc etc. They seem almost superhuman. Again not all of them are like this but a major part anyway.

Of course the shy greasy-haired STEM majors are envious to the demigods that seem to have it all.

>>8933716
This is generally true.

>>8943180
>being a med student in UK in 2017
top meme

>>8933662
This is a silly discussion. Dare I say "spectrum"? Some med students are no more intelligent than needed to become a podiatrist. Others do additional degrees, such as physics, to participate in areas such as nuclear medicine. It is true, however, that once you're accepted to med school you're set - unless you fuck up egregiously they'll push you through to your degree.

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>>8935680
>doesn't get the joke

>>8933662
It's 100% envy. Well and the fact that premed students are such shits. I say this as one.

>>8944297
Envy of what? Most natural sciences and a lot of tech are much harder to get in and stay than meme school.

>>8944297
You lurk /sci/ enough and you notice a pattern. People here hate engineers, comp sci majors, and doctors ostensibly because their fields aren't "pure" but also because the compensation and respect a scientist or mathematician gets is generally shit in comparison to what you can expect to get by going into one of those fields. Working in academia is all of the rigor of med school with none of the financial payoff or security.

Don't take that to mean that I think of math or science as a somehow "less noble" endeavor than medicine. I have the highest respect for math and science students.

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>>8944313
Oops meant to reply to you not myself

>>8944313
Also that's just not true, at least not in the United States. There is no type of graduate school that is even remotely as difficult to get into as a US allopathic medical school. Not law school, nursing school, PA school, nothing compares.

>>8944447
Getting in is one thing staying is another. Here in Germany medicine has insane entry barriers, but if you're in then you're guaranteed a place unless you completely fuck it up and drop out. This is a personal opinion of course, but I'd say math and physics are generally harder subjects to study and excel in and if you don't excel then nothing will come to you unlike in medicine. Anyways, not looking to meme contrarianisms and measure dicks. I wasn't insane enough to go into academia, so I'm not really mad at or jealous of doctors - that was my point.

>>8944504
I don't know much about what grad school for math and physics is like, but you're probably right. Seems like you have to show a lot more initiative and passion for the subject to do well in those subjects, whereas with med school there's a lot of work but it's pretty on rails, there's never any confusion about what it is you need to do.

Fuck all the retards that talk shit on computer science, won't be laughing when we automate your stupid pointless jobs and whipe our asses with your pointless degrees. By the way programming isn't computer science it's a part of it so have fun with your shitty degrees while you can or join the dark side and help end the world hahah

>>8936604
I had a cyst on my thigh, thought it was a hernia, but then it popped, bled out and disappeared like it was never there. Wish I knew what it was, but it remains a mystery.

>>8944822
It's called a testicle.

>>8944828
That's gotta be the worst joke I've seen in a long while. Congratulations, I suppose?

>>8944832
I'm sorry I couldn't come up with anything better. I'm very tired.

>>8936604
>>8944822
Stop wearing tight clothing or being fat.

>>8935879
She's a model only. Jessica Clemments.

>>8933975
With that attitude anyone would get mad at you, med student or not. You're not a better person because you make more money. You're probably the kind of person that would fire a woman on the spot if she gets pregnant, instead of giving her maternity leave.
Besides, you're basically saying they invest 80 hours into studying per week, but somehow their degree isn't difficult. Guess what genius, anyone can get a degree in engineering or mathematics too if they invest 80 fucking hours. With that level of dedication (that an engineering student doesn't have btw), they could become anything. And they choose to become doctors and save lives. Maybe your friends and family aren't so shallow to judge people by how much money they make

>>8942916
Maybe some people put up with the bs because they like to help others

>>8943316
Are you even a physician if you study medicine outside of the US/Canada?

there's no scientific virtue in premed. med students are fantastic human beings but we're different creatures.

>>8933975
that seems like a lot of money dude. what industry do you work in?

>>8937440
I honestly respect actual coders more than anything, because programming is too broad to define and programmers are autists that have to work with other autisits. but what universities push through is essentially their best guess at what a coder should be. they produce IT guys. True computer scientists are always self-taught.

>Is it envy?
This. This is why we hate medical students.