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>It has taken nearly four years, but mathematicians are finally starting to comprehend a mammoth proof that could revolutionise our understanding of the deep nature of numbers.

>The 500-page proof was published online by Shinichi Mochizuki of Kyoto University, Japan in 2012 and offers a solution to a longstanding problem known as the ABC conjecture, which explores the fundamental relationships between numbers, addition and multiplication beginning with the simple equation a + b = c.

>Mathematicians were excited by the proof but struggled to get to grips with Mochizuki's "Inter-universal Teichmuller Theory" (IUT), an entirely new realm of mathematics he had developed over decades in order to solve the problem.

This guy basically invented his own realm of mathematics to solve a seemingly unsolvable problem. How does one become a genius like him?

I don't get how come some people can just work for hours on end without procrastinating or burning out.

https://www.newscientist.com/article/2099534-mathematicians-finally-starting-to-understand-epic-abc-proof/
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>>>/sci/
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>>8893339
I always forget that place exists.
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>>8893340
That's because it's shit, /pol/ has better discussions about science/math than /sci/ does.
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>>8893338
>How does one become a genius like him?
Win the genetic lottery. Mathematicians are born, not made.
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>>8893338
>500 pages to proof a+b=c
That's probably not what it actually is about but I still had a giggle
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>>8893338
>I don't get how come some people can just work for hours on end without procrastinating or burning out.
Passion
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>>8893342
>Mathematicians are born, not made.
Meh. You can have all the gifts in the world but without hard work and enjoying what you do you will never get anywhere.
Hard work always trumps natural talent
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>This guy basically invented his own realm of mathematics to solve a seemingly unsolvable problem.

Huh.....another Newton.
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don't bother discussing science here /pol/ can't even comprehend genetics
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>>8893338
>I don't get how come some people can just work for hours on end without procrastinating or burning out.
Autism friend
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>>8893345
you can work as hard as you can, you won't be able to contribute to mathematics in a meaningful way without an IQ of at least 130.
a hard working idiot can outperform a lazy idiot but not a lazy genius
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>>8893349
I disagree. A lazy genius can simply choose not to do anything. I've seen it many times.
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>>8893350
Someone with an IQ of 140 and not doing anything useful with it seems like a complete waste.
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>>8893350
someone who does literally nothing is not lazy, they are ill
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>>8893338
Who gives a flying fuck about numbers.
Wow, good for that fucking dork.
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>>8893345

Diligent only gives you +1 to all stats while Quick gives +3 and Genius a whopping +5
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>>8893351
but i like shitposting :3
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>I don't get how come some people can just work for hours on end without procrastinating or burning out.

Hey you heard of amphetamines op?
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>>8893338
How Can Numbers Be Real If Our Digits Aren't Repeating
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>>8893338

Fuck this place.
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>>8893357
my fucking digits were repeating when the thread was on /pol/ fuck this, fuck moot and fuck 4 people


hey just wondering but on /sci/ are we allowed to say nigger?
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>>8893364
dunno


nigger
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>>8893341
lmao
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>>8893341
top kek.
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>>8893354
Yeah but the potential prestige hits you have to go through to get genius into your bloodline can be pretty bad
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>>8893353
Can you please elaborate on your though processes step-by-step? At which point in your mind you decided that your comment was worth posting and you proceeded to type those letters? After you had written the words and looked at your creation, what did you feel? Do you think the point you were making was well delivered and it relevantly contributed to the discussion in this thread?
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>>8893451
this thread was moved here from /pol/
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>>8893461
That explains a thing or two
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>>8893376
>t. brainlet
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>>8893350
oh god not this "I'm smart but lazy" meme that 90% of college undergrads claim
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is he /oruguy?
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Why is this fuck posted constantly
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>>8893347

or economics, or history, or anything that doesn't subscribe to their worldview. They're the SJWs of the right.

I mean we are talking about mouthbreathing neets who think everyone that isn't them is out to get them.
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Why do these retarded geniuses work in solitude for countless years creating works which will take decades to decode and understand, often due to the fact they write shit in ways only they understand, instead of collaborating and working openly so that we get the immediate benefits of their work and can expand upon it more efficiently?

How dumb are these 'geniuses'? Is it about personal glory or something?
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>>8893695
he is the next cantor
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>>8893753
geniuses don't care about personal glory only physicists do
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>>8893967
This. Have you ever heard of a physics Nobel being denied by its receiver? No!
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>>8893338
Too bad he won't be recognized by normies because his shit is too abstract.
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>>8893753
It's like if you had a master cook and loads of shitty cooks, the shitty ones have nothing to add and will ruin the master cook's food

It's better they do it alone
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>>8894005
All mathematicians but Mochizuki are shit?
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>>8894011
Maybe? why risk it?

If you think you can do it alone it's probably better that way
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For antisemites: do you know that A. Einstein was a jew?
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>>8894044
The world is flat and Einstein wrote the letter to FDR to start the Manhattan project because the Japanese were attempting to control enough geographical territory to prove that the world was flat through an uninterrupted government experiment, so Einstein being jewish wanted to stop it so the burgeoning NWO could eventually start to fund itself through fake USSR and USA space programs.

tl;dr Don't derail threads with such shitty bait
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>>8893351
fuck u
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>>8893350

A person with talent can run half as fast as Usain Bolt
A person who works hard can run half as fast as Usain Bolt
But it takes a person with talent who also works hard to run just as fast. All of the hard work in the world won't help if you simply don't have physical tools to accomplish the goal.


I know confronting your limitations is unpleasant but they do exist, mentally as well as physically. Hard work is necessary but it is not always enough when you are talking about the bleeding edge of human capability.
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>>8893341
hahahahaha
Fucking /pol/ man.
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>>8893338
so, what are the consequences of this proof?
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>>8893341
Nice bait, how about you go back to /pol/ and argue about how the Earth's curvature is actually an illusion.
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>>8893352
If they do "literally" nothing, they're dead.
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>>8894171
That post (and this whole thread) was originally on /pol/
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>>8893591
cute cat
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>>8894005
The least he could do is have an apprentice or an understudy to teach the stuff he's coming up with to.
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>>8894156
Bullshit. Even I can run half as fast as Usain Bolt. And I wouldn't say I have any talent for it and I definitely don't work hard.
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>>8894477
"metaphorically"
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>>8894171
(((Globe)-alists
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>>8894011
Yes, if you read Recoltes et Semailles you will understand how most mathematicians can only inhabit the houses that others pre-built for them. True creative mathematicians who aren't just doing rote manipulations are very rare.
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>>8894011
Dubs confirm.
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>>8893753
>wasting precious time and energy trying to get egotistical self centered brainlets to understand
>not just being a hermit for a few years doing what you love without having to deal with others

Because he loves what he does anon and doesn't need others to validate his focus.
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>>8893547
This
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>>8893338
You think he got bullied in school?
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>>8893344
Doesn't answer the question. You are merely describing it.

Example
"I don't get how some people can jump 5 meters in length"
"Blorgomorgom"
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>>8894171
>how about you go back to /pol/ and argue about how the Earth's curvature is actually an illusion.
Are you seriously pretending that /sci/ is not 90% discussion about idiotic theories and 10% homework.
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>>8893347
>/pol/ can't even comprehend genetics
neither can /sci/
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Can this papers help solving the Riemann hypothesis?
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>>8893345
>Hard work always trumps natural talent

"No"
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>I don't get how come some people can just work for hours on end without procrastinating or burning out.

He's japanese
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>>8897491
He had the biggest brainpower bar maybe Von Neumann, Archimedes, Newton and Gauss
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>>8897491
Are you implying this guy wasn't autistically obsessed with math and dedicated most of his time to it? (which most people would consider, dare I say it, hard work)
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>>8895933
Certainly. Japanese highschoolers are seriously into bullying.
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>>8893344
Autism
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>>8893351
i know right? If you're a genius you should at least get a job cleaning toilets.
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>>8897510
>Archimedes
Why did you put him among them?
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>>8893341
but it doesn't though?
/pol/ is memes and ledditor retards
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>>8893345
And how come some people are motivated enough to work hard for prolonged periods of time and some aren't?
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>>8898474
he invented calculus
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>>8896478
Sci isn't exactly a collection of the biggest and brightest minds, but some of us actually believe Universities AREN'T indoctrination centers run by Jewish Lizard Sorcerers whose master plan is to exclusively turn the West into Homogay Land in order to summon Moloch from the 57th Dimension, and the only person that can save us is the Reincarnation of Hitler.
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>>8896538
I've taught Genetics.
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>>8899212
>Reincarnation
>not reintroduction

Nigga, look "under" the South Pole. He's still there on the "inside" of Earth.

Read a book sometime, willya?
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>>8898474
Are you serious?
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>>8893753
I think Terrence elaborated on it. He said something along the lines that in math you need to have a substantiated unfinished work before you can show other people or collaborate. This is to avoid "embarrassment" and wasted time. according to him. it's more efficient
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>>8893547
It's true. During my first semester of undergrad I literally did nothing at all. I attended the minimum number of lectures not to be dropped from the course and always sat in the back with my headphones on. I did almost no assignments and didn't open any of my text books until the night before midterms and finals where I crammed everything in 3-4 hours. I managed a 2.2 GPA.
Did the same second semester except I read some content in winter break and had a fun humanities course that helped bump up my gpa to 3.1.
The following 3 years I decided to actually cut this shit out and put in some work and scored 4.0 in everything. I averaged about 2-3 hours of studying a day.

t. biomedical sciences major with 131 IQ
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>>8899321
>I didn't study and I did bad but then I studied and did well

Just like literally every single person in the world. Really made me think
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>>8899321
>131
>he thinks that's high!
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jokes aside is any of this stuff useful for anything?
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>>8900106
Well, if it is consistent and no errors appear somewhere, it was useful for proving the abc-conjecture. Which is pretty useful for other stuff.
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>>8893725
Holy strawman Batman!
Go eat a nigger dick
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>>8898474
>invent calculus
>invent first solar death ray
>invent steam engine
archimedes is the best possible outcome for an engineer sent back in time
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>>8899321
>131 IQ
I'll take a large #6 with an extra large fries
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>>8895951
Idk, I'm a mathematician and I can do math anywhere from 6-15 hours a day, usually achieving all hours in that range. I work on always work weekends, too. I just think it's fun.
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>>8900203
yea well IF. and after 4 years why do we still dont know?
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He has a very a e s t h e t i c home page: http://www.kurims.kyoto-u.ac.jp/~motizuki/top-english.html
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>>8901223
top mathematicians are doing good progress in understanding his work. I think ivan fesenko already claims to understand it all.
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>>8901670
I miss when the internet was 85% this. It looked like shit but it wasn't loaded down with 900 layers of javascript and 32 cross-site calls.

Fuck it used to be cross-site calls were considered a gigantic security threat and not to visit sites that used them. Not it's impossible to escape.
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>>8901686
I agree it's very nostalgic, and quirky handcrafted pages like his have a Web 1.0 charm missing in our era of uniform social media and blogs. I hate how slow and complex that shit is now, but these old style pages would probably still load on Netscape and shit.
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>>8893753
they literally don't care about you or what you think or have to say
it might be difficult to come to terms with, but people like this literally operate on a different level and, in most cases (especially if they have mild autism), they couldn't possibly give less of a shit about things other than their work and passions

it's up to the rest of us to take his work and, first of all, find out if it's reputable or useful in any way in the first place, and secondly, find out how to actually extract meaning and value from it
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>>8894377
see
>>8902520

most of the time, these ultra geniuses just don't care about such things, and other times their personalities don't allow for them to be easily sociable
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>>8900755
Except for it being true for many /pol/acks.
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>>8901670
Btw, on that website, the "pronunciation of my name"... is that the voice of /our guy/ Mochizuki, himself? Could it truly be?
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>>8902520
>find out how to actually extract meaning and value from it

Guess why I know you don't know anything about IUT
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>I will never be anywhere near as smart as him
Should I just kill myself? There's no reason to live, I'll never achieve anything worthwhile.
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>>8902599
I never claimed to
I study set theory and financial math, I couldn't give less of a fuck about this
Do you understand what the point of my post was, faggot?
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>>8902616
Mathematicians or physicists dont do things because they have value. Brainlets can do that after the genius has done 99% of the work.
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>>8901670
>http://www.kurims.kyoto-u.ac.jp/~motizuki/top-english.html
>marital status: single (never married)
fuck if even an inter-universal geometer cant get married what chance is there for us brainlets
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>>8902650
In japanese culture, marriage is so much heavier than in western cultures. In USA people get drunk, propose in a bar, and divorce 3 years later. Or propose their prom and divorce later. Or get someone accidentally pregnant, while drunk, get married because of implications, then divorce later. In Japan people respect marriage.

Don't worry senpai. Mochizuki has surely had multiple female partners for sex over the years.

Source: parents live in Japan
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>>8902631
THAT'S THE WHOLE POINT OF MY FIRST POST
LEARN TO FUCKING READ JESUS CHRIST YOU WASTE OF OXYGEN
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>>8893338
wow fuck science right?
we gotta fund that BULLSHIT

just cause you know nothing about it and =yuou make up a bunhch of shit u act like anybody GIVES A SHITTT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSJjs4l_FHU
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>>8893349
>>8893351

> mfw It's 2017 and people still fall for "IQ test is a reliable way to measure someone's intelligence" meme.
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>>8893338
>>8893339
With enough autism, anything is possible.
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>>8893351
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>>8902891
?
Put down the crack pipe.
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>>8899218
Is behavior mainly affected by environment of genetics?
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>>8902650
/sci/ BTFO /fit/ wins again.
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>>8902650
Funny because he's not even an ugly dude.
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>>8903906
He's autism incarnate though.
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I started serving time on November 2014 and was released 3 days ago. It was exactly this kind of threads I was wishing to come back to. It's wonderful.
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>>8893345
>>8897491
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>>8904015
But he was a really shitty painter
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>>8902650
What if he has no desire?
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>>8902662
>Mochizuki has surely had multiple female partners for sex over the years.
I refuse to believe this
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>>8893351
stop making me feel bad about myself
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Fuck imagine having this guy as a calc I professor
He'd definitely be one of those assholes that make you memorize 20 proofs for the final
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>>8899321
>2-3 hours of studying a day
You write that as if it's a lot or something.
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>>8903937
you went to prison? for what? how was it?
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>>8900887
Happens the same to me with programming
When i found something interesting i can be onto it for as long as it gets
Shame is lately i dont find anything interesting, maybe im losing passion
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>>8893338 >>8893338>>8893342 >>8893343 >>8893344 >>8893348 >>8893353 >>8893357 >>8893359 >>8893993 >>8894166 >>8895933 >>8902891 >>8902964

500 pages to prove that a + b = c?
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>>8906892
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abc_conjecture
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>>8902754
It's always the business major who throws bitch fits.
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>>8907487
kill yourself
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>>8893338
>This guy basically invented his own realm of mathematics to solve a seemingly unsolvable problem

Isn't that all maths that has ever existed?
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>>8894477
you're an imbecile.
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