Why is everybody so excited about putting a man on this empty

>>8859857
Entertainment.

Attempt to divert the people's attention from real problems using vain "achievements". These are the last breaths of the white dominance and they are desperate to grasp something that can give them just a bit more time.

Venus would be better

Do everything in the air, living in cloud cities, dredging the surface for necessary raw materials

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>>8859863
>Attempt to divert the people's attention from real problems using vain "achievements". These are the last breaths of the white dominance and they are desperate to grasp something that can give them just a bit more time.

It's assholes like you that will cause the race war. Go choke on some donkey dick.

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>>8859857
Why are you so sure it's empty?

It probably isn't.

>>8859857
To show that we can, and then benefit from the inevitable technological advances that such a project would produce as externalities.

>>8859857
There is just something about spending 20 times the money and risking life and limb to do something a robot can do without the risk.

>>8859989
what was the benefit from the inevitable technological advances from moonshot?

>>8859857
>Why is caveman john so exited about this fire thing?

>>8860300
Just think for a second. Electricity, resources, labour,... all will be very precious.

Essentially we'll need to create a low power, low resource, high efficiency, automated society that can be built quickly.

That's an insane engineering project.

But Earth could use Mars as a model and just copy it. Lowering the our footprint here on Earth.

>>8859857
In all seriousness, how much could it possibly cost to send one person at a time to Mars, until eventually there's at the very least 2,500 people on there with sufficient supplies to start a self-sustaining colony?

I mean, considering that the US government spends something like $500,000,000,000 on its military every year... and that one last rover they sent to Mars cost about, what, $15,000,000,000 by comparison?

Well, if humans are occupying 2 planets. If either of them gets hit by an asteroid, we'll still have the other. That's the only reason I can see for doing it. Plus, forcing ourselves to build rockets capable of taking humans to other planets, just increases our technological capacity for planetary transportation in general which could be handy a couple of centuries. I'm pretty sure the first people on Mars will be killed by a bacteria though.

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>>8859857

Yeah, we should put a man in Uranus instead. I bet you'll live that, you sick fucko.

>>8859866
>pressure at surface is roughly equivalent to being 3,000ft under water
>atmo is sulfuric acid
>temperature is 800 f
>wind speeds in the hundreds of mph
>wants to mine minerals from the surface from a couple km up in the atmosphere
sounds so ideal

>>8859857
if humanity is not pioneering, it is decaying

>>8859866

>Do everything in the air, living in cloud cities, dredging the surface for necessary raw materials

How would they go about building those cloud cities?

Just by dropping several blimps, zeppelins, and hot-air balloons and Venus' atmosphere and have them all connect, little by little, into one giant network of zeppelins (kind of like what they did with the ISS over the years)?

>>8859863
just put a bullet through your head. seriously.

>>8860468
You would use machines to extract needed compounds from the atmosphere to produce new balloons or expand existing balloons.

Have to ship over enough starter balloons to get the self-sustaining/growing process going.

Because the spun off technology developed to get people to mars and back, will be a boon to the US economy and the world.

>>8861770
this is just a meme, it doesn't actually work that way
NASA doesn't invent any technologies.

>>8860453
The Russian toy they put their lasted less than an hour on the surface. Could the balloon city memes work if they got around the atmosphere's conditions?

>>8861847
because current electronics don't work at that temperature
450 celcius is the temp of a hot oven, there is nothing impossible about it.
Theres a large plateau where temperatures only get to high 300's

>>8861847
>>8861917
The temperature of Venus's upper atmosphere is actually okay, it's everything else that's laughably absurd.

>>8859857

There is no inherent meaning in the universe so we want to do this because it seems like a fun thing to do

>>8861917
>land
>rockets don't work

>>8861825
>hey guys, this computer is too big and heavy to go into space.
>well jim, we better make it smaller.
a lot of coffee and cigs later with the contractors
>good work guys. we have made a smaller and lighter computer
>hey NASA? mind if we use this stuff in our civilian market items? we did help pay for development

>>8859857
Yes, yes, let's dump more money on "inner city disadvantaged youth" rather than spend what amounts to literally 1% of that in a huge leap in technology and an effort to spread the Human race among the stars!

You are right OP.
If only mankind had listened to luminaries like yourself and Gil Scott-Heron.

https://youtu.be/PtBy_ppG4hY

PS: Neck yourself

>>8862214
Ah ok now NASA invented computers

>>8861825
I worked at NASA. We invented shit all the time. Do some research before you post.