So everybody's talking about terraforming Mars, but how's

>>8856701

Sahara plays an important part in the ecosystem. Terraforming it would do more harm than good.

>>8856701
Do you want more Africans?

If you had used Google you'd know we can and have done things like this. it's just that nobody cares.

>>8856701
>easier
we can't even figure out global warming and creating less desertification

and >>8856709 i guess

>>8856701
fuck off, stop creating idiotic popsci threads that attract LARP morons

Look up desert greening.

>>8856701
terraforming takes decades if not centuries.

>>8856709
So we change the ecosystem? That's what we do. Neolithic revolution was all about that. Many places where we live used to be wild. Swamps, nasty diseases, big predator animals but we made them better places to live dewilding them. Time to take the next step.

>>8856718
I want to make the Earth a better place to live in. It could be any desert, take Gobi or Mojave as other examples.

>>8856725
Maybe we should care.

>>8856727
Easier relative to going to do it in Mars. I think we just don't devote enough effort to it, but it's a solvable problem I think.

>>8856728
It's a serious thing, not some popsci pandering.

>>8856741
>t. jew trying to milk gubmint monies for da 100 year terraforming research (((grant)))

we should have been able to step foot on pluto already if it weren't for all the muh space exploration research being recycled over and over because someone needs to fatten up their banks instead of actually exploring new advances in astronomy.

>>8856745

No you don't change the ecosystem. You destroy it. You're not the first peon to think of terraforming the Sahara. Do your research.

>>8856745
The issue with terraforming the Sahara is that it would destroy the Amazon because the Sahara fertilizes the Amazon and its not fucking worth it to do so because the costs of humans fertilizing the amazon will be astronomical in addition to the astronomical cost of terraforming the Sahara. The benefit on the other hand is barely any because the land gained will be of little use considered we have a fuckton of space to do stuff and will continue to have a fuckton of space to do stuff because the highest population the earth will reach is ~11 billion and it will settle lower than it is now due to low birthrates.

>>8856738
was about to post this, it's literally being done in the sahara already

>>8856745

The reason it (terraforming) exists as an idea is to massage our egos, or more lately, for clickbait articles to make bucks.

The reason it won't ever be tried is there isn't a buck to me made off of it. Not for lack of earnest attempts over the years but all those fell away by 1980 and the world's ecosystems have been in free fall ever since. Why?

Because all science is in the service of making a buck.

All these fucking science marches were a joke, no one gives a shit. Science is the economy's dog and that is about it.

The best minds of our time are all trying to figure out algorithms to increase clickbait

fuck this planet

>>8857623

>was about to post this, it's literally being done in the sahara already

Oh, right, sure bud. Big scale production eh? Big money behind that? Mebbe the UN spent half a mil for a field tent, some undergrads?

The most massive effort to date has been in China vs. the Gobi desert, guess what a fucking joke that was.

a big light colored desert reflects solar radiation into space.

a darker and humid area would absorb more radiation.

>>8857672

The ridiculousness never ends.

Lets re-green the desert (as if its just a good idea, why not) while being helpless to stop the overall forest cover loss

>>8856701
because people would rather go and do it on another planet than go to africa

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>>8856745
>Neolithic revolution
*anthropocene extinction event
It's the size of the Jurassic Triassic extinction event the dinosaurs disappeared in.
Humans are going the same way, our sociological-ecological mismatch is driving us towards extinction. That isn't my opinion, it's mainstream ecology at this point.
This is why engineers should be confined to machinery and banned from every interacting with earth systems. They've already fucked our shit up enough

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>>8856701
>terraforming Mars

You need to bombard it with asteroids, comets, and any moon you can actually move and get up to speed. The entire process would take several hundred thousand years. Then you'd need to start the life aspect.

Thus, terraforming Mars is not a legitimate goal within the timeframe of humanity.

If you want to do something, get South America to stop slashing and burning the jungle. Good luck.

>>8858861
>protip: stop letting North American international finance and foreign direct investment parasite South America.
It would be easy if it wasn't for they world bank, Reagan, Clinton and the like

>>8858938
Everything is easy except for *mumble mumble.*