Friendly reminder that naive realists are the embodiment of plebeianism

>>8826702
I agree.

>he doesn't read Neo-Kantian epistemology and existential phenomenology at the same time

>>8826702
So psychology is a science?

>>8826702
The wave function is real and there's nothing you can do about it

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>>8826725
Indeed.

>>8826745
Bullshit

>>8826754
Go ahead and account for Kochen-Specker/Bell/PBR theorems using a psi-epistemic model. I'll wait

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Implying reality has to be really real to be reals.

>>8826745
Okay then what is it, if not just a measure of our knowledge of the state of a quantum system?

>>8826815
An a posteriori correlate of consciousness.

>>8826827
In what sense does the wavefunction exist if there are no conscious observers?

>>8826849
Observer in physics means literally anything that can interact with the system. It doesn't have to be conscious. Why do philosophers can't understand this?

>>8826855
Still haven't answered my question of how the wavefunction exists independently of consciousness

>>8826849
In the sense that it's radically unknowable to us.

>>8826864
this is me

I wasn't >>8826855

But to respond to >>8826855

Literally everything we experience (the entire universe) is correlated to transcendental consciousness. I'm not talking about that in particular.

>>8826702
Friendly reminder that scientists are remembered for their scientific contributions and not their wacky theories about God.

>>8826864
What a nonanswer. Purple unicorns flying around outside the observable universe are also radically unknowable to us. No one is claiming they're real though.

The wavefunction is nothing more than a statistical apparatus.

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>>8826702
Why are you so mean to Dennett-san?

>>8826863
who knows, it just does

>>8826815
A real probability density

>>8826745
The wave function is complex, you fucking pleb.

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>>8826827
That's a good one. I like it.