DNA repair discovery could lead to drugs to reverse ageing, fight

>>8772824
I feel like I hear about shit like this every single year, but literally nothing ever comes of it

>>8772824
medicine and biology is actually the last of the low hanging fruit in science.

>>8772824
will take 50 years to pass regulations

superintelligence is going to arise before a traditional biological solution

>>8772824

>biology
>not a shit major

this isn't done by biology majors
this is done by people who study an actual science
like biochemistry or molecular biology

>>8772862
>>8772862
Undergrad detected.

You still need to fix the blood vessel deterioration problem to stop aging.

>>8772867
you're right

i'm in a BSc biochemistry course, my department is divided into molecular (biochem, molecular bio, biomedical sciences, medical biochem) and organismal life sciences (biology, zoology...)

we as biochemists actually understand underlying mechanisms and pathways that regulate life, from gene expression to metabolism

i share some courses with organismal people and they have no clue what's going on as soon as we get on a molecular level
these people don't even learn the basic metabolic cycles let alone how to manipulate genes

God damn it. I'll never get out of this stupid fucking place.

I'll take these drugs if they also make drugs that make you not a brainlet.

>>8772879
>we as biochemists
There's no 'we,' here, undergrad. You're as much a biochemist as the Air Force grunt who changes the oil of an F15 is a flying ace. Learn your place.

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>>8772879
>actually understand underlying mechanisms
If you haven't taken a group theory class or think organic chemistry is teaching you how bonds are formed properly, you don't

>>8772879
I hate biochem, it makes me want to cry.
Its not ever real chemistry.
I haven't even used math once.

>>8772824
>trusting the news for scientific discoveries
>vague bullshit like "anti-cancer" with no specifics
>actual article is about NAD+ mediated DNA repair

Please take at least a minute to actually read next time

although drug formulation, is really fun.

>>8772935
funny thing... trig bi pyr and octa are lies

>>8772934
youre a dick, get over yourself

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>>8772974

Do you have your name on even one paper? I bet you don't even go to a top ten school.

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>>8772832
>waiting for the regulations
Im gunna inyect that shit right now nigga if I get cancer weed comes to the rescue

>>8772990
considering how much weed i smoke im already going to live forever so i dont even need this cancer pill

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>>8772970

>>8772987
no, i dont. do i need a degree and my name on a paper to tel you youre being a pretentious dick though?

>>8773003
molecules that contain atoms bonded to more than 4 other atoms actually undergo a resonance trading 4 bonds around

>>8773034
Just giving you a taste of your own medicine. You're the one who called Biology a shit major.

>>8773036
actually im not, i dont think it is a shit major, in fact i find it interesting

>>8772970
this was my first post

>>8772824
>The University of New South Wales said on a trip to Mars they estimate 5 per cent of the astronauts' cells would die and would have an almost 100 per cent chance of getting cancer.
What? I've seen several estimates. It's obvious why they only refer to the one with 100%. Damned snake oil sellers.

>>8773016
Calling your self a biochemist without having graduated or having done any real research is like calling yourself a doctor while in medical school before doing any rotations. You may have the knowledge but have yet to demonstrate it by having experience putting it to actual use outside the bubble that is class.On top of that you outright lack the full extent a biochemist is required to hold at minimum to have a degree in it.

1.) You have not got a degree in Biochemistry
2.) You have not contributed anything to the field of Biochemistry
3.) You call yourself a Biochemist

Calling yourself a Biochemist and not a Biochemistry major is pretentious, objectively, Anon.

>>8773034
>Resonance
>Thinking electrons/bonds are localized
Lmao. Look at V.B. Theory vs. M.O. Theory
Resonance is a useful meme in organic chemistry

Pic related is SF6, bonds are delocalized and don't "move" around.

See my previous recommendation of taking a inorganic class with group theory. You can even determine the number of peaks (vibrations) in a IR spectra from group theory

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>>8773111
Fucking A, forgot pic.

keyword
>COULD
it won't

>>8772824
I rich woman from Washington flew down to South America and did this last year to lengthen her telomeres, her method was superior.

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>>8773111
>>8773113

>>8773126
You mean her?
https://arstechnica.com/science/2016/04/ceo-tests-crazy-genetic-therapy-on-herself-claims-it-added-20-years-of-life/

>2 years to Mars

>2
>YEARS

What? What the fuck? Even the most conservative NASA estimate i hear about is like 9 months, what is this 2 years bullshit? Musk thinks he can do it in like 115 days,give or take 30.

>>8772829
Because patents and regulations.
Somebody wants to get paid and even if it does it the market, things will not be allowed to run to their natural end. It could be disastrous depending on how creative people get. Sort of like when the first person publicly released schematics for a gun and now we have people shooting each other every day.

>>8772934
>>8772987
>>8773111

my professor (oxford graduate) calls us biochemists so i took the liberty of the title
besides we've contributed to his research through practical work
and yes it is pretentious to use the title, i don't use it outside of /sci/

but i can tell all of you are projecting insecurities as you missed my point

biologists simply don't deal with genetic manipulation on a molecular level
punnett square and bacterial cloning is probably the closest they ever get to


>>8772974
this wasn't me but a different anon supporting my cause

>>8772987
i'm at royal holloway
which i'm sure is definitely higher ranked than whatever you're attending

>>8772935
bond geometry and formation was the first course we took

>>8772957
you're quite deluded, there's plenty of maths
look up enzyme kinetics, pharmaceutical dissociation constants, enthalpy/entropy changes, stoichiometry of metabolic products, cascade and amplification pathways, list goes on

>>8774074
Your professor is just a generous person.

I am 1 year away from my degree and in no way can I call myself a roboticist or a AI specialist.

I just see how huge the gap is and how much more practice I'll need to do, before claiming such titles.

I need to have a deeper insight into low-level machinery and better understanding of the whole logics and semiconductor materials behind the magic, before I can claim superiority in a debate.

Sure, I know how to program MCs, I understand the basics of underlying mechanics physically and I know some things about neural networks/fuzzy logic algorhithms, but I know only so much.

Bachelors is nothing. I have the honesty to admit it.

>>8774153
i agree
but it's nice to rustle /sci/'s jimmies everynow and then

>>8774074
>biologists simply don't deal with genetic manipulation on a molecular level
What shithole uni do you go to? what the fuck? Either you're trying very hard or you mean something very different when you refer to biology than the rest of this thread.

>>8773147
Yes

>>8774226
OP is trying to argue that this "discovery" was thanks to biology majors
i am saying that the credit goes to biochem and molecular biology majors and a pure biology degree will not get you in a position to do such research

biochemists are biologists
but not all biologists are biochemists

>>8774382
Well, no pure biology or biochemistry degree will get you to do anything like that, you'd need a PhD. Undergrad degrees matter little when it comes to what you end up doing postgraduate considering life sciences is a very extensive field.

Also, biology degrees vary greatly from uni to uni, some biology degrees are basically zoology while others are molecular biology with a bunch of evolution thrown in.

The credit doesn't go to any biochem or molecular biology or zoology majors, the guy who did this research was a biologist specialising in genetics, that's all. Many people who specialise in molecular science studied pure biology for undergrad, and many others did biochemistry. Undergrad doesn't matter, and credit for other people's work doesn't go to anyone regardless of specialisation.

>>8774253
>Elizabeth Parrish

Still waiting for her to get horrible all over body cancer.

>could
Or it could not.

>>8772824
Instead of commenting on the useless shit everybody else is commenting on, let me say this:

That article is total garbage. Not only does it not even mention any sources, they basically just infused mice with NMN, a NAD precursor. I bet I could get the same statistical significance infusing the mice with fucking water.

You all need to shut up about everything that isn't simple maths and physics, because clearly you're all fucking retarded and have no idea about what you're talking about.

>>8772824
Too bad for us... last generation to suffer all of old age problems... just too late for us.

At best we will be the Guinea pigs of the experiments to perfect life extension.

We all gunna die!

>>8774074
God dann it dude you say
>>8773111
Missed the point but its you who missed it

>>8774591
Actually if you're under 30 you're pretty good to go.

>>8772879

biochemistry is biology you fucking dumbass. what community college do you go to?

>>8773111
>>>8773016
>Calling your self a biochemist without having graduated or having done any real research is like calling yourself a doctor while in medical school before doing any rotations. You may have the knowledge but have yet to demonstrate it by having experience putting it to actual use outside the bubble that is class.On top of that you outright lack the full extent a biochemist is required to hold at minimum to have a degree in it.
>1.) You have not got a degree in Biochemistry
>2.) You have not contributed anything to the field of Biochemistry
>3.) You call yourself a Biochemist
>Calling yourself a Biochemist and not a Biochemistry major is pretentious, objectively, Anon.

fucking rekt. no better than a psych undergrad thinking they're a psychologist/psychiatrist

>>8774074
>bond geometry and formation was the first course we took
>general chemistry
Kek

>>8772829
It's just 20 years™ away.

>>8772824
The DNA in each cell is unique. We just don't know which of them is the reference sequence.

How the hell does gene therapy even work? Like you make a virus that has a positive affect somehow? I know how impractical it would be to individually edit the genes of single cells.

>>8772824
>abc.net.au
WTF

Post a link to the paper or get the fuck off, popsci fag.

>>8777900
http://science.sciencemag.org/content/355/6331/1312

>>8772862
>this isn't done by biology majors
>this is done by people who study an actual science
>like biochemistry or molecular biology
>Molecular Biology

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>>8772895
They do. it's called the redpill :^)

>>8774074
>i'm at royal holloway
>which i'm sure is definitely higher ranked than whatever you're attending
Nigga, I went to Cornell, and I just got into Duke for my PhD. You're a pseud, plain and simple.