Was Koko the Gorrila ever really capable of human communication

>>8709529
Sorry, meant to use present tense. Koko is still alive and is 45 years old.

>>8709534
I don't really know too much about gorillas but Koko seems smarter than the average nigger desu senpai.

>>8709529
no, it's just a matter of another brain dead white whore claiming that her pet ape is special.

>>8709529
Probably not.

http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/science/2014/08/koko_kanzi_and_ape_language_research_criticism_of_working_conditions_and.html

>>8709586
www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOVS9zotSqM
how do you explain this video then?

>>8709604
this writer is a shit
http://www.slate.com/authors.jane_hu_1.html

I seem to recall Noam Chomsky being very critical of these "communicating apes" results. I also remember some lab naming their ape "Noam Chimpsky" in response.

>>8709529
it has a higher IQ than most african countries.

it never asked a question to gain knowledge but then again most africans dont either.

koko only chimped out once as far as I know, its pretty close to human.

>>8709619
Well then if you don't like this author, you can always check out Pinker's book The Language Instinct, he has a chapter where he argues against talking apes. If you don't like Pinker, then I'm out of resources.

>>8709630
They called it Nim Chimpsky, but all those experiments did was prove Chomsky rigth about apes and language.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nim_Chimpsky

>>8709630
Noam Chomsky defends a point of view that claims language is only possible thanks to a specific brain faculty which only humans have, so it is only normal he is critical of that.
>>8709529
I never read much into the subject (so as to investigate the research's legitimacy) but if it is true that Koko used metaphor(s), then I would say that really can be considered complex communication and not just classical conditioning.

Also I believe if we bred intelligent apes like Koko and educated them all the same, within 5-10 generations I think they would be able to have a primitive language (sign language ofc)

>>8709529
>capable of human communication
do you mean human language? if so, then no, Koko in no way approximated human language.

>>8709668
This. These people who want apes to be able to learn a language are generally ideologically indentured to an approach to language acquisition that relies on "general learning mechanisms" (read: magic), and are opposed to the human-specific language faculty of generative grammar/chomskyan linguistics. It would be great if apes could use languages because we'd have more opportunities for experimentation; linguistics would basically become a subfield of biology.