Is nofap backed by real science being done by real scientists

pseudoscience

Pseudoscience based on anecdotal evidence.

Just pseudosceince. But if it works for you, it works for you. Placebo can work too

>>8690093
there is evidence to suggest that masturbation sets of a hormonal cycle in men that triggers a 50% spike in testosterone on the 7th day of abstinence and rapidly decreasing on the 8th day. but not nofap as a whole

Pseudoscience based on reddit

Personally, when I change what I fap to, I change how I think about sex, but when I don't fap, it just stays how it was earlier. So if you fap to shit that you want to change, that would be my recommendation.

>>8690254
Reddit is circlejerk

>>8690612
so is 4chan desu

>>8690242
Source?

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>>8690683
This is (i think) the only study that showed this, and I just cat trust a papaer with such shit graphs. pic related.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12659241?dopt=Abstract

>>8691178
so fap on the 7th day?

>>8691456
And on the 7th day, God rubbed one out

>>8691456
The spike in testosterone isnt significant enough to make any real changes to your mood/health/etc. that nofappers claim happens on the 7th day, at least from what I understand. nofap is at best placebo.

>>8691509
I do the 7 day shit and I definitely notice a difference on that 7th day

Masturbating
Dopamine receptors
Blah blah blah
Kind of like addiction

The real question is does masturbation aggravate hairloss? I would be fapping three times a day if I was certain the answer to that is no.

>>8691522
Like eating food.

>>8690242
There is only one single study on this, nothing more, nothing less. It doesn´t take into account things like who were the people tested.

Were they older males, monastic celibates, young boys in puberty. There are not references to that.

Some people on rebootnation have actually tested their testosterone while going through long periods of total celibacy.

One guy had his testosterone levels almost 3x higher than from his baseline fapping everyday despite being celibate for over 6 months.

But of course, people who usually go for these long abistence streaks tend to improve themselves in other ways too: more exercise, better diet etc. So the better test levels could be simply explained by change in the diet and lifestyle.

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I'm currently nofapping just to end my addiction to weird porn. I don't care about superpowers, I just need to stop being aroused by weird shit on the internet. My porn tastes were getting too gross, even though I didn't jerk it more than 5 times a week, max. I've also suddenly gotten a huge crush on this one girl, I really want to be with her, I'm working on improving myself - I was already improving myself, but I'm being more obsessive about it now, especially concerning social interaction (something I've always been mediocre at) - and I just can't help but think "what would she think of me if she knew I masturbated to this?" which is a little silly, I know, but it's helping me eliminate this addiction.

I have also found myself thinking differently about things. It doesn't really have anything to with not masturbating, though if I were like your average reddit nofapper, I'd've assumed it did - I suppose this is why so many nofappers believe that it is their abstinence that has given them so many benefits; it's not the abstinence itself, rather, it is the newfound desire to improve oneself, the same desire that influenced the preliminary decision to end their unhealthy masturbatory habits, that has benefited them.

I, personally, feel more critical of my own flaws. I have become more aware during social interaction, and I partake in it more now. If someone invites me to something, I won't immediately say no. I do not feel as uncomfortable talking to people now, and I am improving my conversational skills. I have realized the social errors I have been making for so long, errors which were the ultimate cause of me not having any genuine friends - everyone is merely an acquaintance, no one is a person that would have my back when necessary. Essentially, I have ignited a strong desire to improve myself in this aspect of my life, in which I have lacked for too long. Wish me luck, bros.

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>>8690093
>Is nofap backed by real science being done by real scientists I can see on a real world class journal?
No
>or is just pseudoscience from reddit?
Yes
>>8691509
This
>http://chaosandpain.blogspot.com/2013/07/no-fap-more-like-no-fucking-way.html?zx=5c392185e96536fa
>http://chaosandpain.blogspot.com/2010/09/enough-already-sex-and-baddassery-are.html
>http://chaosandpain.blogspot.com/2010/09/enough-already-sex-and-baddassery-are_07.html
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masturbation#Health_effects
>http://www.europeanurology.com/article/S0302-2838(16)00377-8/abstract/ejaculation-frequency-and-risk-of-prostate-cancer-updated-results-with-an-additional-decade-of-follow-up
>http://www.webmd.com/prostate-cancer/news/20040406/frequent-ejaculation-prostate
>http://urology.jhu.edu/newsletter/prostate_cancer712.php
>http://www.frequenturinationinmenexplained.com/ejaculation-and-prostate-cancer/
>http://m.joe.endocrinology-journals.org/content/52/1/51.short
>http://answers.webmd.com/answers/5004889/what-nutrients-do-you-lose-when-ejaculating-or-masterbating-do-you-lose-testerone-
>https://www.healthtap.com/user_questions/1294935-how-long-does-your-body-take-to-replace-the-nutrients-lost-by-masturbation

>>8691788
oh man dude, don't associate nofap and self-improvement with a girl, you will get FUCKED UP. I did this, she rejected me like 2 months ago and I'm still fighting to get her out of my head

While we're talking about masturbation and testosterone and such, why is it that my urges to be a slutty femboy trap that gets dicked by strangers constantly go away when I smoke cigarettes and I start masturbating to normal, wholesome straight porn where I fantasize about dominating a woman? The longer I go without nicotine the gayer the porn that gets me off is. It's weird.

>>8692411
I doubt it's significant enough to change your psychology to that degree but doesn't smoking boost testosterone?

>>8692411
I don't know but I think you should give in to your desires and let /fit/ destroy your anus.

>>8692411
you probably just associate the nicotine and smoking with the following behavior, so it's become a trigger rather than what you think is the inverse.

>>8692411
it's probably for desperation for a dopamine release, a lot of guys fap less when they get obsessed with a show or video game or something of the like
that said, you're bi-curious as hell nig

>>8691178
>No control
Hmmm
>No regular fluctuation was observed following continuous abstinence after the peak.

I'm going to say some confounding variable is at play here.

>>8690093
It works but because it trains your discipline, no hormonal thing.

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>>8690093

It is backed by God Himself.

>>8691178
>shit graphs

Kek

>>8691836
Worry not senpai, I will be able to handle rejection. I keep the possibility of failure in my mind, and I've made sure that I can recover quickly if I get rejected. I will keep on improving myself regardless, and I am absolutely 100% sure that I will get a qt3.14 to love and care for eventually; hopefully it's her, but even if it isn't, I won't become depressed and lonely because the future is bright anyway.

>>8691514
Nah, you're just dumb.

>>8691788
Nice blog faggot.

>>8690585
>Personally, when I change what I fap to, I change how I think about sex
I can't fap to things I'm not aroused by though

>>8690093
I think it's literally your withdraw symptoms of not fapping

The urge increases the longer you don't do it until you just break the habit

>>8690093
>Do no fap
>Get prostate cancer when you're 40

No thanks, I think i'll jerk off every day.

>>8690093
>med students whine about being under appreciated on /sci/

Ok med fags, here is a research opportunity for you, earn your keep by revealing the secrets of nofap.

>>8695216
Designing a good experiment for this is more complicated than expected.

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>>8690093
It's my anecdotal experience that porn fucks you up a little. Fapping is fine. Use the 'ol power memory and imagination, but porn is instant gratification, and I don't think it's healthy. It's just not a healthy view of sex.

I don't care what anyone else does, though, but I deleted my porn stash and I haven't looked back or looked at porn since.

>>8692589
>a lot of guys fap less when they get obsessed with a show or video game
Can confirm this. When Bloodborne first came out I literally didn't fap for a month. I became so obsessed with hunting beasts that I lost all desire to wank

>>8695240
This is the real answer. It's not no fap its porn that fucks you up

>>8690093
You lack discipline or you wouldnt be asking sych questions or considering the practice of nofap.
This is a mechanism by which you can gain more control of your pitiful and gratification centered life. The actual nut busting ir lsxk thereof is irrelevant.

>>8690093
Actually the opposite is true.
Fapping prevents you from getting testicular cancer.

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>>8691788
good luck anon

>>8690093
The only people I know, who do nofap are the ones who want to cum solely from being fucked in the ass without touching their dicks.
Needless to say they are a bunch of faggots.

>>8691456
>take paper's advice
>fap when testosterone is greatest
>fapping decreases t by constant amount
>reset to higher than normal background
>wait 7 days for next spike
>rinse and repeat
>become 100% body mass testosterone hulk

>>8691788
>what would she think of me if she knew I masturbated to this
Nothing, she would be too busy thinking about fucking Chad.

>>8690093
pseudoscience from reddit