A few years ago stem cells were the holy grail of medicine, supposed

The media fucked off about how evil/miraculous they are so you don't hear about them as much. There is massive amounts of research looking into various types of stem cells, as well as applications

But yes it turns out that like everything involving research, it's more complex than first thought

>>8687890
So in the end it was scientists being too optimistic about something new + media hyping it to sell articles?

Do you think stem cells will eventually provide a breakthrough? Or are the applications less amazing as expected?

>>8687895

Now that Trump was elected start saying goodbye to any meaningful research such as this.

Anti scientific views are cancerous.

>>8687895
>media hyping it to sell articles?
its called fake news

>>8687895
No, it wasn't scientists being too optimistic, it's their words being blown up by media in order to fuel the flames of the ethical debate surrounding stem cells.

They're still heavily used in research, and very useful in medicine. The political topic and the scientific research are entirely separate beasts.

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http://theheartysoul.com/stem-cells-cure-paralysis/

the christian republicans trump is sucking off are all against stem cells, so don't expect much in the years to come.

>>8687887
It's had a lot of political opposition like the 1995 Dickey-Wicker Amendment that stopped federal funding for research where human embryos are destroyed. Other countries have it a lot worse. The US laws have gradually gotten looser, but there's still a lot of restrictions. Nobody wants to go into stem cell research when they will be restricted or lose funding entirely based on politics.

>>8687887
>Or were scientists themselves too optimistic?

It's called arrogance. Guys gloating on future success; exaggerating or downright lying for funding.

Essentially what >>8687928 was going on about
Instead of taking the fetus' cells we are instead making them ourselves based off already differentiated adult cells -- induced pluripotent stem cells, but they still aren't even close to FDA approval

Devarapalli, P., Bhalke, S. L., Dharmadhikari, N. S., Mishra, V., Mago, N., Deshpande, N., & Hirwani, R. (2016). Induced Pluripotent Stem Cells: Inventors turning into competitors. Can a competitive patent combat yield better inventions in stem cell research?. Journal Of Commercial Biotechnology, 22(4), 19-26. doi:10.5912/jcb756

>>8687887
Every scientist hypes up their own work. You have scientists working on the most mundane shit and they'd hype it up because it's their life's work. Stem cells are the holy grail. Tons of research is being done on them. But it's not as simple as just growing them and slapping them on a patient. Even the growing part is hard.

>>8687887
muh ded babby stemcell ethics blocking progress

Republicans didn't like it because MUH EMBRYOS

Democrats didn't like it because embryos fetch a better price when used for cosmetics/product testing

It turns out that the media is full of fucking retards and things are actually more complicated than "rub stem cells on your skin to cure cancer!"

basically

>muh ethics

>>8687887
It's in that weird place between a lot of the groundwork being in place but no products ready yet. I got approached by a head Hunter a few years back to head up the viral safety team for a stem cell CMO. Unfortunately my skill set wasn't quite right, which was a shame, but I know the guy who got the position through a conference.

>>8687887
It's fine, they're doing everything you said and probably will do more.

"A few years" is how long it takes a postdoc to grind out 1 serious research, not sure why you expected us to be self-healing immortals by now

>>8687910
>>8687897


Go back to pol

>stem cells cure diseases (including cancer)

>blood transfusions do cure diseases

>animal antibodies derived from autologous tumors do cure diseases (ie inject a horse with human disease, horse produces antibodies to then harvest and extract) - personalised cures

>cryoimmunotherapy cure diseases

>repurposed drugs cure diseases

but is big pharma/fda and population control interested in really curing diseases?

>>8687907
This. I've made pluripotent stem cells using Yamanaka factors (iPSCs) before for a project. There are other ways to get stem cells besides poking around in an embryo.

It's hard to keep a stable culture of stem cells, and its even harder to try to get them to differentiate into whatever cell type you want. The science still needs to be refined before widespread clinical applications are seen, but the potential is still there.

>>8687887
The holy grail is just one of the trinity. And we have barely understood it.
The holy trinity in biology is : DNA, Cell/DNA activiation, Stem cells.
We have far from enough understanding of either.