How long do you think it'll be till we can program an A

I would think pain is so subjective that it isn't able to be programmed into an objective reference scale for a programmed AI to respond appropriately.

One could create a series of sensors to sense stimuli we identify as painful, such that a robot could respond to increasing heat from a lighter flame applied to its hands, and other stuff I guess too....

But how does one even quantify subjective pain, or quantify emotions such as pain from the loss of family and such?

>>8657398

What this brainlet is trying to say is that he is too much of an egocentrist and too dumb to admit that he is a biological robot.

>>8658947
>what is subjective
Wew lad you sure are a dense motherfucker

>>8657385
Why would anyone want to create an AI that feels pain?

Pain is part of the animal brain, not the intelligent brain.

>>8657385
Why would you give an AI pain? That sounds like a dick move. Why not make it friendly to humans period and willing to take the dick for it at all times.

>>8657385
Feelings are for thoughtful, empathic people. AI will only have measured sensation and imitation, hence "artificial."

Never you dumbo, it is impossible and will always be, stop dreaming about a robot gf, it won't happen.

>>8657385
There is an argument that current reinforcement learning algorithms might experience suffering:
http://petrl.org/
http://reducing-suffering.org/why-your-laptop-may-be-marginally-sentient/

Some computers might have been harmed in the making of this post.

>>8659563
what a load of horse shit

while (1)
pain++;

>>8657385

AI does feel pain

If you put a big rock into a boeing 787's engine while it was flying all types of computers would act up. It would have a measurable increase in computer activity. it would react by probably turning the engine off and diverting its fuel supply. Then all the control systems would probably switch to a 1 engine mode.

that's indistinguishable from pain

Does it matter that machines feel pain? hell no

>>8659981
>that's indistinguishable from pain

Mechanically maybe, but pain is emotive. AI would have to understand disparity and the difference between positive and negative to actually 'feel' pain.

>>8659981
>that's indistinguishable from pain
In what way?
Do you even know how pain works in the brain?

>>8660014
do you?

>>8659151
Because pain serves as a deterrent and there's literally nothing wrong with redundant security measures.

>>8659962
Disprove it.

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>>8657385
>add a pain variable to a program
>it now feels pain

literally prove me wrong

>>8657385
Why the heck would want a robot to feel pain? Pain gets in the way of it doing hard labor that might break its body.

>>8660469
If robots couldn't feel pain why would they listen to use once they are sentient? We need them to feel it when we whip them dummy.

>>8660469

You call it pain when it is in you, but you call it a weighted matrix when it is in a robot.

>>8660014

Yes I know how pain works in the brain I've stubbed my toe before

> the systems in body react
> heart rate goes up
> behavior changes
> attention is diverted

etc...

>>8660860
None of that explains how

>>8660004

How about you define "emotion"

Machines feel pain as long as this definition is something other than "a thing that only animals can feel"

>>8660868

There are several stimuli that can activate a neuron leading to electrical activity, including pressure, stretch, chemical transmitters, and changes of the electric potential across the cell membrane.[22] Stimuli cause specific ion-channels within the cell membrane to open, leading to a flow of ions through the cell membrane, changing the membrane potential.

>>8659966
ai.isConscious = True

just solved the mystery behind intelligence
checkmate neurofags

>>8660880
wow
you should publish this in The Journal of Neuroscience ASAP

>>8660892

you asked how that's how

>>8660903
alri professor

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Pain is literally just a form of negative feedback. It's one of the stupidest things there is, you can make a fish or a bug "feel pain." For an AI, any kind of urgent negative feedback could qualify as pain. As for their learning algorithms, I guess you could say they feel "disappointment" when they get an answer wrong. Who knows or cares?

>>8660469
So a robot doesn't keep doing bad things like repeatedly bashing its arm into a wall causing damage to the robot.