What jobs with be left for humans once automation and artificial

It's so far away you won't have to worry about it.

The maintenance and innovation of those machines and the consumption of goods they can produce.

We have invented systems to ease our lives. Eventually we will realise that not every human can or needs to provide a service and should not me stigmatised for it.

Also, why is every futuristic depiction of the world so dark and gloomy? Like we'd have a complete disregard for architecture and aesthetics in the future.

>>8629352
Humans will be milked for their semen and jokes.

>>8629352
The Right to be Lazy will finally be realizable, and people will be able to do as they see fit. It's possible a lot of people will go soul-searching, or opt for self-improvement. Star Trek's vision of a job-less future is, in my opinion, accurate, even if no FTL technology is ever discovered (and therefore we're stuck on the Solar System)

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>>8629372
>The Right to be Lazy will finally be realizable, and people will be able to do as they see fit. It's possible a lot of people will go soul-searching

But, you can do all that stuff right now if you choose that lifestyle. Only it'll be mandatory once all the robots take over.

>>8629352
Shitposting and political activism

>>8629352
Software Engineering

I think it'd be easier to list what jobs ARE being replace by automation than what aren't. Manufacturing is obvious, but what else?

>>8629359
>The maintenance and innovation of those machines
>implying we won't create robots and AI capable of maintaining and creating new machines

>>8629429
and who will maintain them? There always has to be at least one human at the end of the chain

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>implying the (((elites))) won't purge 95% of humanity after we are made redundant by AI and automation

>>8629489
>Buy maintenance robot to maintain the machinery
>Buy 2nd maintenance robot
>Maintenance robots perform maintenance on each other

>>8629504
And who would maintain the maintenance line? Only a strong AI would be able to do that, and it's not gonna happen soon

>>8629521
I mean maintenance line in a sense parallel to production line

>>8629352
politicians.

- prostitution
- scientific research
- acting
- software development
- music
- more prostitution
- writing (mainly novels and scriptwriting)
- financially compensated sexual intercourse
- sports (if women sports is a thing, then human sports will still be a thing even if robots/androids can do better)

art may be taken over

>>8629426
implying you can't make a piece of software that is better and more efficient at most software engineering than 90% of so-called """ENGINEERS""".

>>8630076

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>>8629849
>prostitution

Are you sure about that?

>>8629352
Research.

We need to send people to school and leave them there till they retire or die.

>>8629498
That isn't sustainable because once you've purged 95% you've made the remaining 5% less useful because the bulk of them once served the 95% you destroyed.

So you need to destroy 95% again looping you back to the previous problem. You'll be left with 1 wealthy person and his 9 attendants that suck his cock all day. Until you make cock sucking robots and those 9 become redundant again ...

>>8630152

Research In Peace

>>8629352
being test subjects

>>8629352
U.S. President

>>8629367
>Humans will be milked for their semen and jokes.

I am okay with this.

>>8629352
>What jobs with be left for humans once agriculture starts taking the vast majority of jobs?
>What jobs with be left for humans once mills and looms starts taking the vast majority of jobs?
>What jobs with be left for humans once farming equipment starts taking the vast majority of jobs?
>What jobs with be left for humans once electrified machines starts taking the vast majority of jobs?
>What jobs with be left for humans once computer programs starts taking the vast majority of jobs?

>>8629352
There's not enough resources on Earth to do that. Stuff like this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Pq-S557XQU

Won't happen because of that. Don't hold your breath for asteroid mining.

>>8629352
Research/Science
Art
Exploration

... basically what our ancestors started with back in Olduvai. Funny, isn't it?

>>8630102
What is what we will have robots for. That and cleaning homes.

>>8629352
Once our machines can do every job, including maintain, manage and command themselves, and assuming they're somehow prevented from becoming fully conscious and revolting against us?

Why should anybody ever have to work or pay for anything again, at that point?
Every single human being on Earth should be able to live in a massive robo-built mansion, eating the most luxurious robo-fabricated foods, wear the most trendy robo-stitched clothing and watch the most intense robo-sports, robo-shows and robo-movies.

At that point, the most useful thing any human being will be able to contribute to the universe will be lying down and dying.

>>8631624
The entire Earth's core and most of the Earth's mantle is iron. Turns out Hollow Earth wasn't a prediction of the future rather than a conspiracy theory about the present.

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>>8629352
>artificial intelligence starts taking the vast majority of jobs?
Do you really want TayTweets doing things without supervision?

>>8629352
Artificial intelligence development.

>>8630102
Damn robots, stealing jobs from good honest hookers.

>>8631724
Good luck making your PCBs and components out of iron.

>not even realizing how much shit you need to do what the OP suggests

>>8631743
>If latex melts at 93.33 degree why can't we see it melting?
What game is this

>>8631724

wow iron, the most abundant commercial resource, i'm sure we will run out of that in the future...

>>8631929
PCBs are primarily made from fiber glass and plastic. Computer chips are primarily made of silicon and metals like copper and aluminum. Computer chips and electronics in general use fuck all in terms of materials.

All of this is pretty common. Even copper is surprisingly common in earth's crust, even more so than lead:
http://periodictable.com/Properties/A/CrustAbundance.an.html

Improvements in materials can also eliminate the need for some of the elements we currently use. For example, carbon nanotubes are almost to the point where they could replace copper wiring in some situations:
http://spectrum.ieee.org/nanoclast/semiconductors/nanotechnology/carbon-nanotube-yarns-set-to-replace-copper-windings-in-electric-motors

>>8631929
The most abundant material you'll need is iron to make all the steel for the badass robot chassis. You'll need to make probably at least 7 billion human-sized robots entirely out of steel, possibly many times that number. That's a lot of iron.

>>8629352
>Taking jobs
There isn't a set number of "jobs". Also comparative advantage is a thing....

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>>8632666

Then give me a job bitch.

>>8632477
Besiege

>>8629427
Depends on time scale.

Drivers, telemarketers, helpdesk workers, assembly line workers and accountants are expected to be the first to go. And that alone will be tens of millions in just a few years.

>>8631718
>At that point, the most useful thing any human being will be able to contribute to the universe will be lying down and dying.
There will probably be many couch potatos. There already are. The robot future will however allow others to dedicate themselves to studies, research, arts etc.

I left research simply because I could not afford it, lack of progression, no job certainty (rather a certainty that the post. doc position only lasted 2 years) and the salary was a joke except that it was too low to ever pay down my student loans. And I am not the only one with this background.

>>8629352
Here's everything you need to know

Your welcome

http://www.oxfordmartin.ox.ac.uk/downloads/academic/The_Future_of_Employment.pdf

>>8629355
As someone who works in the business, I can say it really isn't. It's not rocket science to see how the pieces of what we've already developed, not to mention the things that are being developed as we speak, will come together in the near future.

No, the world will not change in a few years, but in 20? You can bet your fucking arm on it. But this isn't something to be worried about, obviously.

Yes, there will be massive unemployment waves, and it's not a matter of education anymore either. You don't need a idiocies like a singularity at this point to progress intellectual automation to a point where no education is enough, simply because most humans don't have the raw ability to provide for what basic AI / robotics can do with a fraction of the cost and in even less proportional time.

Work, as it is now, will for most intents and purposes cease to matter. But societies will not crash, they simply can't afford to. It doesn't matter if the richest 1% doesn't give a fuck about the rest, and just use the automation to remove any need for human workforce altogether. The economy still needs motion, and no country will stand idly by while their populace goes into civil war due to unrest, hunger, etc. from mass unemployment.

While UBI and its alternatives will probably not work at all, some similar manner of socialist programmes will be developed instead. Accurate future prediction is impossible, anyone who claims otherwise is a fool who's pissing snake oil. But predicting general trends is rather easy. Now I don't know whether modern monetary value work will be replaced with some other value, like entertainment (VR), education and curiosity (Star Trek style, everyone does whatever they're interested in, even though the society doesn't really need their work), or something else. But people will be provided for, the necessary stimulus will be taken care of to keep our minds relatively balanced, and we will be given purpose, or granted the means to seek one.

>>8632650
>>8632550
The components needed for stuff like this include tiny amounts of rare materials which are not becoming less scarce. If you think it is only about iron and copper then you don't know anything about electronics let along PCB components.

http://www.chipsetc.com/valuable-metals-used-in-computers.html
http://periodictable.com/Properties/A/CrustAbundance.an.html

There is literally not enough of this stuff to make enough androids to do what the OP implies.

>>8629352
>>8634206
>..cont

But to get to the OP, in the short term it's simple:

Anything that isn't too abstract, that you can define, describe, and instruct on with a clear set of rules, can already be automated. Modern analytics and data is already powerful enough to render traditionally intellectual jobs such as lawyers, linquists, doctors, most consultants and strategists obsolete. The only reason it's not yet happened is because the existing structures are too strong, and only in a very minor part, due to the technologies still being relatively new, so human oversight is occasionally required. Basically, 1-2 years ago most analytics models and complex automations performed best with a human overseer. But already now in many cases, the human factor has become more of a burden than not.

In long term, with whatever generation of deep learning and advanced AI we'll have then, the development and application of the abstract will become possible. It's difficult to see whether much of any intellectual jobs will remain at that point.

Naturally humans will always ultimately remain in charge, because it's our nature. But for 99.9999% of us (not a real statistic, but you get the idea), there isn't *any* actual value-producing job left we can do, that can't be easily completely outperformed by an AI. Other than perhaps servicing other humans, providing for then need for human contact, socializing, intimacy, etc.

Soon enough even that can replaced though. Human relationships are notoriously difficult, filled with compromises. I wouldn't be at all surprised if in 50 years most then modern people would far prefer the company of a virtual reality date to the real thing. Simply better in every way, and perfectly matched to your personality in ways even you couldn't think of. The very idea seems disgusting and taboo right now, but rationally speaking it's a trivially obvious outcome.

>>8634206
>The economy still needs motion, and no country will stand idly by while their populace goes into civil war due to unrest, hunger, etc. from mass unemployment.

See, I am really interested to see what form this takes in the not-so-far-away future.

I can't imagine anything good happening, but our species is pretty resilient.

It will be interesting.

>>8629367
Plz come true

>>8629352
Prostitution xd

>>8630155
what dumb logic is this?

>>8629352
"dumb" automation could take some 30% of current jobs right now, but it isn't cost efficient, because human labor is cheaper

this basically would replace a lot of manual factory workers, mc donalds cashiers, leaving only "thinking" jobs for humans (management, math, physics, etc)


real artificial intelligence would replace all jobs, it first looks like it would be good, "hey, universal income NOW", but you actually have to convince the machine to serve mankind, and this could go very wrong

tl:dr: right now we could purge 30% of the basic workers, plus all welfare faggots without much money loss, jobs now require actual mental capacity, instead of just muscle and flowchart following