>in a few decades, we will be able to reverse aging in humans

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Values would change. I don't know if it's "worth it," but the gripes you listed certainly don't matter at all.

>>8617326
>Is it really worth it?

Some would argue that the most important problem for philosophy is the inevitability of death. So yes, it is worth it.

>>8617326
>you will forget where you were born, when you were born, your parents and your whole childhood

Good.

>>8617326

Well, I'm not capable of choosing to die, so it doesn't matter. I'll either live forever or something out of my control will kill me.

Whatever happens, happens.

>>8617326
Of course it's worth it. Don't want to live 3000 years? Opt out after 300. Don't want to live longer than a human lifespan? At least your body isn't a withered husk by the time you die at 95.

>>8617326
after a few hundred years we might have external memory.
And since we don't get any older our memory might not even get worse.

>>8617350
Ok, now I'm fucking mad.

>>8617326
it means more milfs

>>8617326
If this succeeds, how do you plan to solve the overpopulation issue?

What would happen if the human brain were filled to its maximum capacity?

>>8617326
>implying this is possible in living humans, not just genetical modified fetuses

The amount of oxygen that reaches the cardiac system decreases as a function of age. The max lifespan of homo sapiens is 125 +||-2 years. Transumanism is the only hope of psuedo-immortality in living humans.

>>8617482
Grow new lungs in lab.

>>8617465
Less. The appeal of MILFs is the way they look. Soon all women will look like 16 year olds.

>>8617482
Function of age or function of aging?

>>8617326
>reverse aging in humans

Hardly practical. Substituting body parts or, possibly on the far future, exchange your body seems a lot efficient and doable than injecting a magical de-aging agent onto your bloodstream.

But anyway, i've read an article once (source has been unfortunately forgotten) about certain phenomena that cause the human brain to gradually create less memories as time goes on.
That would mean we would be in danger of getting stuck on the past, not of forgetting everything we knew. Also undesirable, goes without saying

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>>8617562
Fuck off

>>8617326
This retarded hack hasn't made progress at all and yet he has been spewing his shit for years. Pseudo-science hack

>>8617487
noooo ;_;

>>8617326
>>you will forget where you were born, when you were born, your parents and your whole childhood
Good. This is the best thing I've ever heard.

>Is it really worth it?
This is a stupid question and not only due to my personal preference.

>>8617326
>tfw last year they successfully reversed the ageing in mice using genetic engineering last year and the mice got better in cardio activities, hair grew back, spines straightened.

Fucking hell. I should've went into bioengineering or some shit. This is pretty fucking cool.

>>8617473
This desu
>extend lifespan tenfold
>forget people like to fuck
>Malthusian catastrophe

>>8618069

Space colonization

>>8617326
>you will forget where you were born, when you were born, your parents and your whole childhood


yes, but I think I would remember, I still have nightmares every day

>>8617326
Pretty sure your brain would stop working at 130 due to all of the information stored in it through the years.

>>8618188
That's not how that works.

>>8618188

We would obviously need to have implantable extra storage.

>>8617473
Easy, part of the operation is tubes tied.

>>8617326
no one wants to die
that's the biggest pro and really the only reason to do it

none of us will live forever though because climate change and superbug epidemic

>>8617387
Suicide would prolly be most common

>>8617402
When we forget things its becouse are brain kinda puts a memory in its place and stores it in a deep spooky place were only the subconscious has access.
Future tech might be able to connect parts of our brain or sum to access that.

>>8618273
Super bug is being made super becouse we are making ourselfs super. We will win, it goes without needing to be said.

>>8618273

This is why space colonization is vital.

>>8617350
Dat gif...

>>8617387
The healthy aged is pretty good. Even looking 95 but feeling 35 would be a bonus.

>>8617480
Evolution

>is it worth it?
Yes however strict population control should be enforced. The brainlets should be allowed to die out while only the most intelligent of our species should be preserved. This is the only way to ensure efficient use of our planets limited resources. The only question is: Which forms of human intelligence will we keep and which will we abort? If immortality is achieved, natural selection must become artificial selection.

>>8618344
All the best sluts are brainlets...

>>8618348
All the best sluts will be robots.

>>8618344

Overpopulation is a non-issue if we have spaceships

>implying we won't have cybernetic interfaces allowing us to securely store memories in digital form

>>8618344
>The brainlets should be allowed to die out while only the most intelligent of our species should be preserved.

This happens by default. Extremely intelligent and well-educated people don't procreate with people who work as garbage collectors.

>>8618372
>people who work as garbage collectors.
people who work as garbage collectors still work and contribute. what about the people who only sustain themselves due to crime or welfare and shit out half a dozen kids just to have more welfare?

>>8617326
Who's to say that a group would come along and slyly silence the creators of reverse aging?

Reverse aging would open up an entirely new set of problems. Mainly, how we'd be able to feed, house, and care for the influx of people who would otherwise be dead.

Overpopulation would be a dramatic problem. We'd have to stop reproducing.

>>8618374
>people who work as garbage collectors still work and contribute

So what, you said brainlets. People who work low-skill low-pay jobs are almost certainly not Einsteinian in intelligence.

>>8618372
It will cease to happen by default if said garbage collectors are given immortality by default. Which is a problem for the gene pool.

>>8618399
>It will cease to happen by default if said garbage collectors are given immortality by default.

No it won't. Highly educated and well-off women don't become attracted to garbage collectors simply because you have infinite time.

>>8617326
Holy shit this entire thread is reddit-tier

/Sci/ has really gone down in quality lately

>>8618069
>>8617473
Actually the longer people live the lower they tend to breed. Not mention with an extended span of life people will be more focused on raising their quality of life, which also drops the number of children being born as people focused more on themselves. People also tend to gain more wisdom the longer they live and intelligent people unironically don't get a lot of children.

Overpopulation for 1st world countries such as France, US, Korea, Japan, and others is a huge meme and nothing to worry about. Considering all 1st world countries birthrates are literally sitting at 1.7-1.8 and not enough to replace the population and take care of the aging population.

Overpopulation for 3rd world countries is a huge problem because they rely on large families and they have high chances of dying of not old age.

Even then you could get the people who get their life extended to sign papers to become sterile and agree not to have children at all. Or you make them sign a contract claiming they can only have descendants every 40-100 years.

>>8618470
Then leave

>>8617593
Based Aubrey

>>8618376
Space colonization

>>8617326
cure for aging has been discovered forever ago.
>insert starfish DNA,
>gain reverse aging abilities udner stress
>artificially insert stress
>age to preferred age remove genes again

>>8617326
So what if I forget things?
>Spend 100 years doing science
>Take a break, decide I want to do music
>Take a break, decide I want to do science
>etc, keep having a great time

>>8619815
Exactly. I've forgotten so much from when I was, say, 10 I may as well be a different person now. That guy (10 year old me) is dead.

When I'm 80, the 40 year old me will be dead.

Isn't this the case for us all? We're all Trigger's Brooms of memories.

>>8617371
I second this.

>>8617371

sounds pretty comfy desu lad

>>8617490

the latter of course and of course he is a retard for not noticing this

>>8618374

>what about the people who only sustain themselves due... welfare

HEY!!! TAKE IT BACK

>>8618437

they wouldn't have much to lose would they? so why not try.
To be attractive to somebody at least what I've heard is almost entirely about future prospects.

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>>8617326
At least you'll be able to remember nearly 1000 years worth of your lifetime.

>>8617326
>lifespan increase becomes reality
>tfw giant zealot cult forms determined to rid the world of the technology and all people who used it.

>>8620185
We already have Islam.

>all these anons saying space colonization
The answer to overpopulation is sexbots.

>>8620185
We already have zealot cults like that. My thing for people like that is just for them to become Amish.

>>8617326
where is that guy who is afraid of aging and thinks everything we do should be about stopping or reversing it?

One of the most recognisable /sci/ posters t b h

>>8617350
What you did is immoral

>>8618703
Adding to this, women only come with so many ova. Even if they live forever young and get out of the effects of menopause somehow, most of the dating scene will naturally be infertile.

>>8617326
>you will forget where you were born, when you were born, your parents and your whole childhood
I would not remember anything once i'm dead.

So yeah, it's better in all accounts

>forget your childhood
I have videos of when I was little.
There's pictures.
I don't remember when I was 3, and those are enough for me now.
Why wouldn't it be the same for my current age when I'm 300?

>take a pill so i can toil away forever at mr shekelbergs interracial childrens toy factory

what a treat

>>8617326
>you will forget where you were born, when you were born, your parents and your whole childhood
I read that as
>You will get to rewatch all your favorite movies and play all your favorite games for the first time again

>>8620904
We are already dead. This is hell.

>>8620928
I've been refreshing /sci/ for the last 10 hours, and kind of believe you.

>>8617487
16
Why not 13 tho? Teenage body is best body

>>8617326
You are privileged indeed if you do not value health (not sickness, pain and fear).

There is only a natural way (symbiosis with vegetables and the environment) to reverse aging and cure cancers (cancer is caused by lack of o2 consumed in glucose ratio of ch2o).

For decades, bull-pooing CEOs have been saying they'll cure cancer in a few more years if we give them just a few more dollars.

Researchers are interested in money, grants, and will usually f people with fake data to ensure it keeps coming in.

And even if they found cure for cancer, do you really believe they'd give it out and give up their repeat drug business? As if a bunch of guys slapping chemicals around haphazardly are going to find a "drug" that is going to "fix" everyone.

>>8617326
yeah sure m8, and we'll develop cold fusion 20 years later.

>>8621643
How is the steam generated if it's cold?

>>8617482
The exact age stated in the Bible?!

Atheists eternally BTFO.

>>8617483
And uproot the entire vascular system in the brain?

>>8617371
>What are records

>>8621635
>(cancer is caused by lack of o2 consumed in glucose ratio of ch2o).

Can you elaborate?

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>>8621048
>700 year old lolis

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>>8617487
>all look like 16 year old models
>will have higher intellectual capacity than anyone alive today
>will still spend their time taking selfies rather than working on mathematics and physics
Kill me now

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>>8622927
Relax, they'll have sexbots by the time we get to that future.

>>8622927
>>Geometry
Stop fedora tipping some people enjoy different shit.

>>8618069

Don't give the immortality vaccine to poor people and third worlders

>>8618457
Fuck off you dirty piece of shit go fuck yourself

>>8622488
grow a new fucking everything and find a way to keep the brain.
It's 2017 anon, we wuz gods now.

>>8621635
Cancer wont be cured for at least another 20 years.
The economy is already in a worse spot that most people know. if the boomers were to last even 10 years more than they're expected to we'd have societal collapse on our hands.

>>8618069

Make it cause impotence

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>you're apart of one of the last generations to die

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>>8617562
>tfw
>your actually 10,000 yrs old
>can't process any new memories now so your stuck living your shitty life from 0-80yrs
>you will never die

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those will be real

>>8617473
The Elite currently ruling Europe has decreed we must solve the underpopulation by mass immigration.

>>8623585
Yeah giving couples incentives to have kids will just result in Europe being full of white people. And we can't have that, can we?

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>>8623985

I'm glad you understand, go-, er, guy

>>8617326
Except cancer will kill you no matter what.
The more time you are alive the the bigger the chance of getting cancer.

>>8624590
you're saying this as if we cant cure cancer

>>8624590
>The more time you are alive the the bigger the chance of getting cancer.

I'm not OP, but I'm assuming that if mankind has created a means to stop aging, they have also dealt with the gradual corruption of DNA. My guess is the most practical way of going about this is through the integration of a fragment of genetic code into the cells' DNA which would code for a protein that would correct for any errors resulting from replication (a back-up to the protein that already does that). In addition the integration of a gene that would prevent the degradation of telomeres would also be necessary.

>>8617326
>Is it really worth it
What do you mean by "it", Peasant?

Pretty decent thread.

>>8617326
I don't see a problem with living for a long time. Also, if you truly reverse aging, you will be able to keep your memory. Your mind won't just deteriorate as your body stays healthy.

ok

Is Bioengineering a good start into dealing with ageing?

>>8629674
No I think metallurgy would be the most obvious avenue.

>>8622475
Time travel to guide human society.

>>8618304
Does it though really?

>>8617326
Only the richest and most powerful people would ever get to experience immortality. Unless you're secretly a multi-billionaire with political views in lock-step with whoever controls the tech, you'll be sucking dirt with everyone else.

>>8631754
>only the elite will get this
>immortality

Congrats, you got two retarded basic bitch arguments in one post.

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>>8623439
Maybe its for the better

>>8617326
Thank god. My life is currently shite. If I lived for a thousand years I could probably become the person I want to be and more.

>>8618703
Even 3rd world birthrates are plummeting. They still have a lot of kids but far less then they used too.

>>8623498
Not how it works. Your brain never loses the ability to create new memories save for stuff like dementia/alzheimers. You'd start reaching overflow and your mind would begin to discard lowest-priority memories.

>>8631754
immortality is the only thing I would die and kill for, I'd make a potential suicide run on some rich dude if it meant the chance I might get my hands on immortality.

>>8631777
Only the elite are allowed to legally commit crimes, so it tracks.

>>8617562
Fucking member berries man

>you will forget where you were born, when you were born, your parents and your whole childhood

if only there were ways to record such precious memories and information

>>8632259
Is there a measurable limit to the data storage capacity of the human brain? I imagine it would be measured in dozens of petabytes at the very least, but I don't really know for sure.

With all the social, political and economical problems we currently have I don't see how something like this will not bomb horribly.

>Manage to live and accumulate enough wealth to get a reverse ageing treatment.
>Nigger kills you while trying to steal your latest iPhone 32

>>8632259
If I showed you a photo book of what I said was your past life, would that really be anything meaningful to you.

>>8631802
Or you'd waste 10,000 years on 4chan before finally killing yourself.

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>>8632386

>niggers being allowed in a utopia where immortality is possible

>>8619821
>Isn't this the case for us all?
Not really, I remember almost anything even from decades ago when I was a child.
Even the things I don't practice anymore are still there, I only need to brush them up, definitely not to study them from scratch.

I wonder, hypothetically speaking, how our sanity and sense of self would be like after a 1000 years of life in perfect physcical health.

Taking away factors that cause dementia and the physical breaking down of the brain, would we even be conciously aware of ourselves anymore?
Would living so long literally drive us mad?
Would we just be really bored and demotivated by the end of it?

I feel extended lifespans are only worth it for the truly active and genius in nature. People that could forever expand their work as their health allowed for it.

I dont think the average human can handle it properly, much like the average human cant handle the strain of spacetravel.

>>8632390
No, but my current life is meaningful to me and I want to remember it, fuck my future self.

>>8633243
>would we even be conciously aware of ourselves anymore?
Try to touch a cat's paw, I think he'll show you how very consciously aware of himself he is.
And that's a cat.

>>8633243
This is once again one of the arguments that rests on "only one thing will change, everything else will remain the same" - even though it won't.

What if we can make people active and "genius"? That's just one example.

>>8619791
So they made a Starfish immortal like how they made Deadpool immortal (expose it to stress, it mutates)?

>>8620185
DUNE happens?

>>8617326
You could always kys if you decide it's not.

>>8617326
remembering is part of staying healthy you pleb

>>8617593

Looks like someone I would have a chat with at the pub...

>>8633243
as long as human memory is as shit as it is, immortality theoretically wont be a problem

the show you watched 30 years ago will seem as though it's brand new the second time, through this effect you'll never really get any more bored than you are now, and that's not even taking into account the new shit created constantly

entertainment can also only get better with better tech

of course this is assuming perfect physical health... the reality is probably that people will get anti-aging treatments done on them then die when they're 120 to ass cancer

>>8620928

D- don't anon, your scaring me

>>8633560
If you can extend human lifespan to millenia, I'm pretty sure you can also edit out whatever cause boredom in human beings

>>8623439
Yeah this is bullshit, out of all the possible times we could have been born, we were born right before people don't have to die anymore.