Is it really so outrageous to think that years ago there were

>>8548322
Yes.

>>8548322
>became petrified after a massive flood
How does that work

>>8548334
>The petrifaction process occurs underground, when wood becomes buried under sediment or volcanic ash and is initially preserved due to a lack of oxygen which inhibits aerobic decomposition. Mineral-laden water flowing through the covering material deposits minerals in the plant's cells; as the plant's lignin and cellulose decay, a stone mold forms in its place. The organic matter needs to become petrified before it decomposes completely.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petrified_wood

>>8548322
If you drilled a hole into the side of one of these things, would you find that their composition is one of concentric rings just as any tree? Or would such a test just prove that they're purely geological formations?

no tree of that size could exist. it would collapse on its own weight immediately

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>>8548344
Maybe, Not all petrified wood does that. Pic related

>>8548348
CO2 levels were much higher millions of years ago, EVERYTHING was bigger. All plants grow optimally at CO2 levels much higher than in the natural atmosphere now.

>>8548358
doesnt matter. a life form cant exist at the size compared to the picture shown. nutrient circulation would be impossible

>>8548376
>a life form cant exist at the size compared to the picture shown
says what?

>>8548322
Here you go OP, this should help you get on the right track.

http://biology.stackexchange.com/questions/11044/how-do-trees-lift-water-higher-than-10-meters

>>8548390
>not knowing the square-cubed law by heart to refute this bullshit

>>8548322
>Is it really so outrageous to think that years ago there were ENORMOUS trees that all became petrified after a massive flood?

yes

>>8548390
Read up on how plants draw water and nutrients up through their stems. Now ponder whether this would work for trees that are a kilometer high.

>>8548348
This

>>8548358
Just because tree's COULD exist this big, doesn't mean they did. What's the evolutionary advantae to being this size? I can't think of one, can you?

And water is largely the limiting factor in x-iosperms, not CO2

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Micro-macro-WUMBO think about it

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>>8548458
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They could be bigger, no?

>>8548891
Nope. Trees have a hard limit to how big they can get. Trees can't pump water above a certain height, otherwise cavitation occurs. This kills the tree

>>8548433
Maybe there was less gravity back then, and stringer evaporation

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>>8548913
http://iliketowastemytime.com/2012/10/01/oldest-tallest-and-biggest-trees-in-world

Limit being? There are millions of years of biological history, perhaps with current evolutionary mechanisms trees cannot be so tall.

This is the problem people have with such absolutes, we dont even know completely how trees work now. How do you possibly know what could or could not have existed millions of years ago.

>>8548348
There are buildings that big and tall. Why haven't they collapse under their own weight?

>>8548441
>evolutionary advantae

There's your problem. You think things have to be in evolution terms.

>>8548322
If trees that big existed there would be immense amounts of evidence of them

>>8548441
Shit wont eat your leaves maybe?

>>8548926
Because concrete and steel don't need to shuffle nutrients

>>8548934
It's called atomic structure.

Get the fuck back to >>>/x/ you retarded autists.

I believe it.

The evidence makes it clear. Rocks to not form geometric cavities that resemble cells.

>>8548935
That response relates in no way to my post

>>8548934
They shuffle people with stairs, buildings are kind of alive.

>>8548322
Obviously this is igneous rock that cooled slowly thus the crystal structure that looks to 'tards like a tree.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devils_Tower

>>8548977
Buh it's a jewish conspiracy, geology is all lies and the jews made CGI to trick us!

>>8548926
Because plants aren't made of fucking steel, holy shit you're dumb.

>>8548983
If the steel is so strong how can one steel support many otgers that are just as strong? An ant can only carry 5 times her body weight.

>>8549018
>assuming the gender of all ants

>>8548348
Slicone nano tubes.

>>8548322

Rock/crystal trees

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>Not realizing that this is b8 and shitpost. As evidenced by:

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>>8548358
>CO2 levels were much higher millions of years ago

Prove it. You can't, because the truth is that oxygen levels were higher, not CO2 levels.

>>8550366
>Prove it.
The concept of proof is alien to science. It only applies to axiom-based reasoning.
Carbon dioxide concentrations have been much, much higher in the distant past, e.g. about five times the current level during the Jurassic period and up to 7000 ppm in Cambrian times (wikipedia).

I don't see it as impossible for these trees to exist; there's no good reason getting fluids that high should be impossible (we know of no trees with growth capped by their simplistic methods of transporting water), and long in the past it seems like competition between species was a lot simpler, involving a lot more size competition.

However, an unusual scenario of petrification would be necessary for those mesas to be trees.

>>8548441
>another retard doesn't understand how evolution works
newsflash, evolution is a lot of "things just happened and it worked"

There's no reason there couldn't be an enormous tree if there just so happened to have to perfect environment for an enormous tree.

>>8548358
>All plants grow optimally at CO2 levels much higher than in the natural atmosphere now.

>what is a C3 plant?

>>8550637
I don't know, what is a C3 plant?