Why do normal people hate math? Put anything more complex than

>>8495279
Because the media tells them it's only for autistic nerds and that you don't need this math to be successful

Also it's better that we keep it likes this or else Math major will become the new CS and i'm sure you don't want that
>inb4 muh sikrit club
We must keep this rate at normal, just teach your kids (if you want ones) how important is math and don't let the normalfag's kids bully the fuck of your kid for being smarter than them

>>8495279
I grew up hating it because all but one of my math teachers made math very uninteresting. I didn't start liking math until my senior year of high school.

This.

>>8495342
same, very true.

>>8495279
Math is fun, but not all math is fun.
My favorite classes were calculus 3, linear algebra, probability and statistics.
In my opinion anything beyond that becomes too abstract.

>>8495342
a lot of math teachers are emotionally dead and teach by rote. its not until you start trying to price together the puzzle yourself that you're like, 'oh, they developed that to give you this'.

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>>8495293
agreed.

but math class salt thread nao please

>>8495293
Or maybe because it is mostly autistic and fucking boring?

Higher math genuinely requires great intellect to do, though.

>>8495279
Because normal people are retarded faggots who don't appreciate the beauty of True Mathematics.

>>8495809
t. engineer

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From personal experience, "normal", in this case the focus group, is actually the product of an infinite series of "" non-autism" media" and their reception of math, as a sort of coping mechanism, is replaced by psychosocial reassurance.
Like >>8495293 says, kinda.

Although in addition, it's a shame because this decline has bastardized the perfectionism mathematics needs to operate, and has in its state created a response that the 'specialists' are debating things way too fucking obscure from the ground we need to USE mathematics.
Left-wing liberalized schooling, high hormonal arrogance, social media control, modern cognitive dissonance and spooky apparitions of apathy from false "geniuses" , whatever to blame.

I'm also pissy because I've not beyond a AP Maths field education ( a little pure math) and half of it's pissweak "just do it already, I'll help you 3/4 of the way into the year" due to someone more concerned with "muh social diversity" than teaching fucking beyond basic integrals.

>>8496068
Nah, Med student. Chicks seem to dig this for some reason.

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>>8495596
Category theory, algebraic geometry and homology theory is where the fun begins tbqh.

>>8496288
med or premed?

>>8496334
Europoor here, your either med or not. There's no ''premed'' whatsoever, even if university chemistry mostly is quite close to that.

You just have to pass the entrance examen, which is competitive as heeeel.

>>8496288
Because doctors make a lot of money and have status

>>8496364
ah so your universities aren't gigantic cashgrabs like north american ones?

>>8496320
You sound like that sophomore guy who stick to one or two grad students.

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>>8496588
>tfw """"free"""" education

>>8496600
>t. brainlet

>>8495342
This. I didn't understand math until I got a teacher who actually encourages you to study instead of boring you to tears.

>>8495279
I think it's because we allow our children to watch too much TV and play too many video games. Seriously the constant bright changing colors and movement at such vulnerable times in their development has to affect their attention span in some way. Couple this with his outrageous TV shows have become, and a culture that shits on being educated or applying yourself, it's no wonder so many people can't get into math.

>>8496364
What country?

>>8495279

Math is tedious, but not complex. All it takes is concentration and studying. Most people lack concentration skills, and others don't like studying.

>>8495342
Same. Got Cs in middle school math. Went to college for engineering. Slowly fell in love with math and changed majors during my junior year. Currently applying to phd programs in math. Just hit 60th percentile on math gre today so pretty happy.

Fuck my high school math teachers for making me hate math.

>>8496625
played vidya all my life and am physics grad :^)

You do not need to be numerate to be successful, here is President Zuma of South Africa.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oO83b6wbKU4

>>8496607
>What is piracy

Because teachers just show you how to plug in numbers and formulas without explaining why at all which makes it boring and tedious. Im in uni and just now going to take precalc finally because Im actually interested in learning math now. Fuck my teacher in highschool when i asked her 'what is this for? Why does this work this way?" Etc she would just tell me not to worry about it or that id learn it later and avoid answering

>>8495279
I hate it because I am terrible at it.

I forgot everything I was taught, and I wish I hadn't.
I would attempt to study, and learn once more.

But it seems like a waste of energy.

>>8496625
> Too many video games
I don't know, games like Monster Hunter require you to be constantly concentrated and to analyze the attack pattern of the monsters.
Also I studied Italian Renaissance from the documentaries on the tv since they were more interesting than the sterile lessons like “In the year 14xx...”. Only after the third year of high school I found history interesting since my teacher focused more on the causal connection between each event and not the dates (yeah, we had to memorize some important dates, but that's inevitable).
This is a problem that I often find at the university: people don't try to understand why a formula is written like that, they simply memorize (badly) the formula with the example and it's enough that you change the example slightly for making them incapable of doing anything. So for me the problem is more a mix of >>8495293 and >>8495342 and not really the tv or the video games.

>>8495279
Its a language they dont speak

You might as well hand a russian novel to an english-only speaker then complain when they dont appreciate the story

>>8496761
It's hard to believe an anon behind a monitor, but math is one of those subjects that isn't a complete waste of time since it's present in a lot of things (money management, calculating tax or volumes, conversion of measure and so on. These are just some everyday circumstances). Of course it depends on what you do for a living: if you work as a cashier where everything is automized there isn't really a big opportunity to use your newly acquired knowledge, but you can learn up to Calculus 1 without too much problems and from there you decide if you want to continue or not. Try to find some good books and procede slowly trying to understand why formulas are written like that and you should be good. Mind you, starting it's a huge hurdle for a lot of people, but if you can overcome it studying math or other things will be easier.
If you want a little push I can tell you this: instead of studying math, which is something useful which you may or may not use, what are you doing? Watching a film? Reading a novel? Playing video games? Will what you are doing right now improve somehow your future life?

>>8496822
Not the person youre replying to but the last sentences really got to me. Thanks anon

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>>8495596
>too abstract.
Abstract algebra is the shit. Period.

>>8496657
okay, bud. whatever makes you feel better.

feels > reals, amirite? :^)