So, /sci/, I'm new to the EM drive controversy. So, it violates

Its called the meme drive for a reason

>>8397672
Couldn't you play devils advocate and say that relativity was thought to be impossible at first?

Photons have momentum

>>8397678
>something possible was once thought to be impossible
>therefore everything is possible

>>8397548
According to everyone who has tested it it seems to work, but we dont exactly know if it actually violates Newtons Law or if its just an oversight.

>>8397684
Great insight there, buddy.

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> ~1mN of thrust per Watt when tested
>Might lift itself off the ground if powered by fucking fission reactor
>Oops, reactor's too heavy. Need more power. Oh, add some extra while you're at it or we won't be able to transport anything on it
>It now accelerates at 2 Ångströms/(Megayears^2)
>mfw

>>8397692
>According to everyone who has tested it it seems to work, but we dont exactly know if it actually violates Newtons Law or if its just an oversight.

It's within the margin of error, most likely a small error in the experiment.

>>8397692
>According to everyone who has tested it it seems to work

This is wrong

Several researchers claimed that it didn't work.

>>8397716
I think the researchers from NASA as well as the chinese team found it to work under all circumstances they took into consideration.

>>8397713
Until they find out what causes the error nothing is for sure. Personally I would assume that you are right even though I definitely hope that you arent.

I hear they were gonna test it in space, that still going through?

>>8397548
>How is this thing even possible then. Is it just pop-sci bullshit like usual?

ever hear of a "radiometer" ? check 'em out, for the longest time their actual method of operation was controversial

So if I understand this right. It bounces microwaves inside this can. Though because of the frequency, instead of turning into heat, it becomes momentum.

>>8397695
Thrusters aren't for taking off.

>>8397695
>>It now accelerates at 2 Ångströms/(Megayears^2)
>use this for hovercrafts, etc
what's the problem, anon?

>>8397868
A radiometer's mechanics are utterly conventional and within the laws of physics. The reason it is controversial is because many people, including its inventor, hypothesized an incorrect explanation that seemed intuitive. The memedrive is similar in that its inventor hypothesizes an intuitive but incorrext explanation of how it works. But the controversy is not over that explanation, it's in that its claimed effects violate conservation of energy. If the memedrive actually had the thrust to power ratio its claimed to have, then it could be used to make free energy from the surplus kinetic energy it produces, regardless of how it actually works. This indicates that the claimed thrust to power ratio is in error.

>>8397691
It's more like
>something possible was once thought impossible
>therefore it's not necessary that all things thought impossible are actually impossible

You committed a fallacy
>they claim A implies B may be possible because P(B)
>therefore they are claiming that P(C) implies C is necessarily possible

They should really introduce people to modal logic, since most human reasoning in inductive.

>>8397672
I thought Alcubi-meme-rre drives where memes.

>>8397691
90 IQ pleb
>>8399499
Above 110 but below 130 IQ normie

>>8399815
>he fell of the IQ mene
Non functional autistic underage