What pens/pencils do you /sci/entists use? Just ordered the Uniball

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>not working in your head

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>>8394281
this is the only acceptable answer.

>>8394283
>submitting thoughts for grades

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>>8394288
>not reciting your homework to the professor for grades

>>8394281
I use the nearest writing tool I can find. Because it really doesn't matter. Fags.

>>8394293
>not spending $12 on a pencil so you can have the best writing experience possible
pleb

>>8394292
>speaking concisely and without hesitation directly into the flesh mic.

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I use this pen. .25 point and nice dark ink for writing. My writing is shit 2bh and this pen actually helps me.

>>8394322
>nice and dark ink
you might want to try the Signo 207 or 307. Both put down dark lines too.

>>8394322
>.25 point
Still smooth?

>>8394327
The .38 G2 is not smooth to me. I don't know of a .25 Pilot G2.

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>>8394281

They're cheap and they write well.

I like the Hi-Uni 2B and Uni Jetstream. Wish you didn't have to push down so hard with it though.

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This is the only correct answer.

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Nothing can ever be known. I sit in solace while all of you normies give yourself carpal tunnel solving problems that will never mean much more than arbitrary symbols on a paper. I instead think of new and fresh philosophical discourse my conscious can debate with my subconscious. I am a living, breathing embodiment of intelligence. The only way one of you would ever live a better life than me, is if our definitions of what is better were not arbitrary. Thus, we may conclude that the pen/pencil may not be a writing utensil. We may perhaps draw the conclusion that this is a tool OP should shove up his ass for posting such a stupid fucking thread.

>>8394359
>is a gel pen
>not a signo dx

>>8394360
>I sit in solace while all of you normies give yourself carpal tunnel solving problems that will never mean much more than arbitrary symbols on a paper.

You don't get carpal tunnel if you don't hold your pen like a retard.

uniball roller micro (0.5 mm) in blue. ive spent too long trying to find a pen i like more but i keep going back to them...

>>8394325
OP here, was going to get the Signo 207 but apparently they recently have had a problem where they skip a lot https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xSvhN3GJAI (check amazon reviews as well) I also read that the aforementioned problem was fixed with the 307 but that isn't available where I live, so I got the VIsion Elite instead.
>>8394287
To be honest it doesn't have this kuru-toga mechanism everyone IRL and on Amazon has been talking about, but the eraser is definitely far better than the Kurutoga.
>>8394359
How is the grip on that?

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Favorite pencil, have been using it for over a year and wouldn't change a thing

>>8394281

>pens

Don't you have a computer?

>>8394376
If you had to change one thing about that pencil what would it be?

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>>8394375
>How is the grip on that?
There isn't a rubber grip, but there are ridges in the plastic. It's surprisingly comfortable despite this. And the pen never skips, of course; very consistent ink flow. 10/10 tbqh pham

>>8394391
Does permanance mean anything to you? I don't like using ink because I know it will fade and don't know what those archival inks are made of most of the time. Mechanical pencil is nice to know that the ink will not fade, but then crappy paper :(

>>8394398
>Does permanance mean anything to you?
No, it's not a concern of mine.

>Mechanical pencil is nice to know that the ink will not fade
Honestly don't know if you're trolling here or not.

In any case, the ink in that pen is proven to be water-fast, at least. And I can't think of a time it smeared. So it should last a while.

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pilot frixion erasable ink pens are heaven sent. erases every last trace of ink and it comes in .5mm size. but acroball will always be superior

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>>8394281
Anything other than a decent pencil and a soft eraser is full retard tier

>>8394410
> ink in that pen is proven to be water-fast, at least
so is pencil
I agree and smearing is probably the worst thing about pencil.
>>8394412
What about the Jetstream or Zebra emulsion ink? Any preference?

>>8394422
>pencil
>smearing
What kind of shit pencils do you use?

>>8394423
Only big boy pencils smear. None of these babby """""""""pencils""""""""""'

>>8394423
I like 4B mechanical pencil. 2B smears a bit too but nowhere near as much as 4B. If writing without a shitajiki in a notebook then it transfers from page to page even if I go as hard as HB.

>>8394385
If you're mot being facetious; 0.3mm instead of 0.5mm

>>8394536
If you're mot being facetious;
http://www.jetpens.com/Pentel-Graph-Gear-500-Drafting-Pencil-0.3-mm/pd/1237

>>8394335
God tier, I used them for 2.5 years untill I switched to fountain pen.
I would recomend this one to everyone desu, they are comfy af

Rotring 600

Been using it for years

>>8394281
Pencils man. Just regular ass pencils.

>>8394777
trips confirm

These are pretty comfy.

>>8394281
only german made pens and mechanical pencils (lamy 2000 pen, and a mechanical pencil i forgot the brand of, but its from the 80s)

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>>8394844
shit, forgot image.

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Nothing feels better than this

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>>8394281
Got it about a month ago, it's pretty nice, though the grip isn't rubber, just metal which needs getting used to.

>>8394281
you're literally the same kind of worthless trash of those retards putting led lighst in their gaming pc's.
I hope you die soon.

>>8395616
Kuru Toga really works for the middle to harder grades of lead as long as you pick up your pencil.
Kuru Toga is bad for 4B because it wears down too fast. IDK about 2B.

>>8395616
BLUE LEDS FOR BETTER COOLING
RED LEDS FOR FASTER FRAMES
GREEN LEDS FOR ENVIRONMENT

ALL COLORS FOR FUCKING ARMAGEDDON!

Why aren't you using a computer?

>>8395668
last time i bought paper there was an collegeblock
with green linef on brownisch öko paper for
only 6,99$

>>8394554
Pls no bully, phone posting a hard

Thanks for the link, will be picking one up

>>8395727
senpai if u got the xtra $$ get graphgear 1000 or better yet rotring 600
>>8395689
Better retention on paper than on computers.
>>8395635
2B or harder should be fine if you have good lead.

>>8395738
I really should try it out with my 2B lead.
One problem with 4B .5mm lead: I have found is that they are bad for filling out scantron sheets not just because they smear more but the lead that touches the page sort of falls apart. It stays on the stick of graphite, it just gets messed up and you have to wipe it off with your fingers. Same thing happens to me with .2mm Orentz and 2B grade lead.

>>8395745
I should've said that I don't have a problem filling out bubble sheets with .5mm 2B lead.

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Lyra 57 0.7mm

i use this old sanford mechanical pencil, not sure if they still make them but it's great

if i am using a pen i just use sharpie ultra-fine tips

>>8395745
Coincidentally, what lead do you use? I use Uni Nanodia because it's cheap where I live, 0.5 USD for a pack of 40. My Kurutoga was 1.5 USD too.

>>8395745
>>8395764
Should've mentioned that it's 0.5mm HB.

i have a kuru toga roulette coming in the mail soon with the kuru toga lead

i want to pick up either a graphgear 1000 or a staedtler 925 35 too

>>8395764
Pilot Neox 2B and 4B in .5mm.
Kuru Toga works fine with Pentel Super Hi-Polymer HB and the .2mm lead was Pentel Ain Stein 2B.
I bought a Pilot Automac and Tombow Zoom 707 pencil but haven't received them yet.
I plan on buying Ain Stein and Nano Dia in .5mm 2B & 4B.

>>8395786
Ain STEIN & Nano Dia perform comparably, there isn't much of a difference (at least to me) just get whatevers cheaper IMO.

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>>8394281
Bic Cristal Fine

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Faber-Castell TK-FINE 9717 0.7

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Whatever's within reach tbqhfam

What do you guys think about .5mm vs .7mm lead?

>>8394281
Damn that looks like a good pencil but it's 10 bucks and the eraser probably runs out quick. I don't wanna carry an extra eraser with me. I stick with the papermate clearpoint cuz i erase a lot

>>8395964
0.5mm all the way, lines look much cleaner.

>>8394292
>not reciting your homework in LaTeX to the professor for grades

AMAZING LIFEHACK: instead of spending your time and money being autistic about writing implements, invest your time and money in actually useful things like working, studying/learning, and becoming a better human being

WOW IT REALLY WORKS

>>8396675
Knowledge lasts as long as humans last but
Dixon Ticonderoga® pencil graphite is forever

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>>8395957
>his pencil has an eraser attached

just fucking use up the entire earth's metal supply, go ahead, it's not rare or anything.

>>8396981
Modern pencils are made out of plastic

>>8397061
not the eraser holder

0.5 kuru toga

Sakura micron if I really need to use a pen

>>8396647
>not writing your dissertation in LaTeX

Zebra 701

It's literally the greatest pen ever made for its price range

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Can any of you guys post some samples of what your writing looks like with these pens?

I used a Pilot G-2 0.7 the past three years in my maths degree but this is mainly a carry-over from when I used to take notes from literature all day. With mathematics it just makes everything look messy though. The Pilot Frixion 0.5mm was much clearer, but it cost like 10 euro and it lasted for around two weeks at most. Any compromise between price and quality? Ideally something with a fine-tip that doesn't feel scratchy is what I want. (Note: the 0.5mm Pilot G-2 was scratchy as hell)

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who else is in the /BigEraser/ club?

Those of you who use mechanical pencils, what kind of lead do you get? Any brands of premium lead you would recommend?

>>8397382
A ballpoint pen usually writes finer than a gel or rollerball pen. You could try a .7 or 1mm Jetstream, but they glob sometimes.
>>8397904
I like Pilot Neox. It smears a lot if you are not careful though.

Serious question: why do you faggots care?

I use rotring 600 in 0.5mm and 0.35mm, Pentel Graph 100 for Pro 0.5mm, Staedtler 925 25 0.3mm, KuruToga in 0.5mm.

Pens.. usually the G-2 0.38 mm and JetStream 0.3mm..

Recently started using wooden pencils..

Mitsubishi 9800

and Mono 100..

The Mono 100 wooden pencil is a pleasure to do my math homework with.

>>8397904
Pentel Ain
or the "diamond infused" lead by Uni.

>>8396675

more like investing in the tools which help us in our work and school areas; leading to better human beings.

>>8394335
God tier. I've used this and only this for the entirety of undergrad.

>>8394281
>2016
>There are people who still don't use superior mechanical pencils

Why? Are they just brainlets?

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>>8398167
I keep eating all the graphite as it's much easier to obtain from mechanical pencils than from regular ones

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>>8394281
Pilot Razor Point II
and for pencil Pentel eSharp .5

>>8398131
There is AIN and AIN STEIN, the STEIN is supposed to be better.

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Pic related. Rotring 800 and Rotring Rapid Pro

[spoiler]They're overrated[/spoiler]

>>8394335
These are shit. They seep through the page a lot. Plain cheap Wal-Mart disposable pens are better. But writing in the sciences is very beginnerish. It's way more effective to just think hard and long about the problem then to write only to document the solution with proof. Doing this helps develop a very strong head and ability to visualize the concepts.

>>8398593
+1

>>8398465
yes sorry you are correct.

Ain Stein is better. That's the one I recently purchased. The lead hasn't snapped on me (using 0.2mm).

>>8394335
How long do these last? They seem pretty expensive.

>>8394287
Honestly this, but I use a .9 mm one. The lead is the perfect thickness for me and it makes my work bold and darkened. The lead also lasts me at least a couple weeks of heavy use per piece so it's very economical. The erasers are expensive for this pencil but they are the best I've ever used. HIGHLY recommended

>>8395738
Print it out

>>8396647
Instructor here. If you seriously turn in homework with your work done in LaTeX, you get extra points even if your worknis crap

>>8399851
What I meant is that by handwriting it down on paper your brain processes the information as its more work to write down something on paper than to type something out on a computer.

>>8399855
Why

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This for pencil.
>>8394335
This for pen, but typically blue ink.

>Rotring 600
>Alvin Draftmatic
>Lamy Safari
>Graphgear 1000
>Ohto Horizon

help me

>>8394281
>uniball
>UNI BALL
LOL ELEMMAYYOHHHHH

Same as
>>8395089
>>8396981
and
>>8394325
Signo 207

>>8401315
>>8401315
I'd get a Graphgear becauae of it's retractable tip or the Alvin Draftmatic.
I heard that the Rotring 600 is heavy so it might not be my cup of tea.

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Pilot Hi-Tecpoint V5 Grip

In black+blue+red+green, makes my notes pretty.

>>8401315

>no kuru toga

the rotating mechanism isnt a meme they really are pretty cool

>>8394281
Before I started working, I thought:
>I'll have a writing instrument I like, gonna take mad cool and organised notes, yo
Reality:
>scribble scrabble with whatever, cause I ain't got time for this shit

>>8401929

>tfw your work is marked down if not acceptably readable

>>8401957
I make notes and sketches when I design something, so they are for my own consumption. I know that I should make them neater, but I just prefer speed.
Everything that other people read is typed on a keyboard (cause we live in computer age and shit, yo).

Lamy fountain pen