Is this the right place to discuss fossils? I've never seen fossils/paleontology threads here, but I'm not sure /an/ would be the right place either.
Anyways, if so, just a fossil general thread.
>>8390964
usually those threads get buried under a pile of math/physics bullshit
>>8390971
Ah, that explains it. I guess I'll start by showing my collection, it's not too big but I like it.
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>>8390974
I can also show a zoomed-in picture of this one if you guys want, shows the stonefly pretty well.
>>8390976
do so
>>8390977
Here you go, dude.
>>8390973
>collecting literal shit
[spoiler]jk, I love fossils too OP[/spoiler]
>>8390977
>>8390980
>>8390982
>>8390983
Heh, I actually just got that one to see if a website was legit before buying my favourite one-- a spinosaurus tooth.
I'll post it next.
I can also suggest a couple good websites if you'd like-- got a couple of mine online.
>>8390986
This one is my favourite and probably the best quality one. Spino teeth in this quality are pretty rare.
>>8390988
>>8390991
>>8390993
these are cool
>>8390997
>>8391004
Thanks dude, appreciate it. Almost done, though, so I'm gonna slow down a bit to give the thread some time to grow.
>>8391005
Right, forgot to explain what this is-- it's a Megaloceros (giant deer/elk) legbone, it's pretty cool. Chip came from my aunt's golden retriever (since it won't fit in a display case, I keep it on a shelf-- dog thought it was a bone.)
Here's my last one, aa whale vertebae-- Not the biggest, but eh.
are you a paleo/archeologist by any chance?
>>8391138
Nope, studying biology, but I've always wanted to be a paleontologist. Too bad it doesn't pay well.
>>8391225
can't be worse than what a biologist makes?
>>8391268
Maybe, but it's also harder to find a job-- I'm working at a nature center right now, which can get me some nice contacts.
Still, I'm fine with either. If you have any questions about paleo I can try and answer them since I know a good deal, though.
>>8391268
Not to mention there's less you can do with a degree in paleontology
I was out in Wyoming and Montana for most of the summer doing field work. Found a few fragments of Dino bones and a shitload of belemnites in different portions of the Morrison formation. Only other thing of note was a 12 cm ammonite cast in a dolomite formation. Was pretty neat
>>8391534
That's pretty cool! My ammonite is pretty small, I'd say 2 cm in diameter. Not much work like that in Florida, although I could try to get a job at Peace River.
Once I bought a little 3 billion year old rock with patterns on it from a geology museum in Australia. The info thing said the patterns were made by ancient bacteria. Wish I still had it, I would have shared it with you guys
>>8392236
You mean a stromatolite? Those are gay.
>>8392263
Nah, love that dog. Every time I come visit she doesn't let me take off my shoes, she just drops down and goes belly-up so i'll scratch her.
Plus, makes for a nice story.
>>8391016
So it turns out the "whale vertebra" is more likely a fish's.
Also, I have a few other fossil fish I forgot to show-- I'm not at home right now, but I'll post asap.
Dont know shit bout fossils but this thread really got me. You dont see this kind of posts in sci. Thanks OP
>>8393056
Glad to hear! Here's my last one I think, a fossil fish from the Green River.
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>>8390980
Dude this is incredible, thanks for sharing your collection. I love amber samples. I've got a modest mineral collection, but really want to start an opalized/petrified wood collection. You got anything like that?
>>8393495
I fucking love that shit, but it's hard to find. I have a bunch more petrified wood samples if you'd like, though.
>>8393574
Yeah man, if you feel like posting em I'd love to see what you have.
>>8390964
These are neat.
This is probably the best board for this, all things considered... /his/ gets pissed, and rightfully so, because technically anything before the written word is pre-history, and thus outside its purview (and the whole board is just /pol/-lite anyways). /an/ isn't likely to have many folks in the field, and is an even slower board than this one, but I suppose they'd at least be more cordial.
Sadly not my field, but I know a paleontology guy, and e-mailed him the thread link. He may take a gander and comment when he gets off work. And yes, /sci/ is his 4chan home board.
>>8390988
Holy... If that's what that really is, it should be worth a pretty penny. Last I heard they were pretty desperate to get more of spinosaurus.
Granted, that "last I heard" was from this dweeb:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6oCqSqY7FiI
>>8393630
I got mine for a decent price, although it's really good quality imo. If the index card isn't good enough a scale I can use a flexi-ruler.
Anyways, here's the wood.
>>8393624
Might get some bites from /out/ as well, but yeah, also a slow board. I've seen archeologists on there and some people showing random fossils and bones they've found, though nothing real academic.
>>8393642
God damn it, sorry. Using tablet, computer is charging for the hurricane.
>>8393624
That's great! Hope he likes it-- maybe he'll have an idea of what the whale (it's actually a fish, some guy said)
>>8390964
Question for all of you idiots who think dinos went extinct tens of millions of years before men "evolved" from monkeys:
How do you explain their accurate depiction in virtually every ancient civilization?
How do you explain the existence of each and every "living fossil"?
How do you convince yourself that a komodo dragon is not a dinosaur?
How do you gloss over the fact that T-Rex bones and soft tissue were discovered in Alaska?
>>8393706
>what are lizards, crocodiles, other reptiles
>living fossils still changed, just not very much because they didn't have any need to
>different skull, pelvis, and much more (it's possible dinosaurs were warm-blooded, for example)
>scientist who discovered the soft tissue literally explained how it wasn't proof for young-earth autists
Listen, buddy, I don't mind if you believe it for religious reasons. But those are the only reasons, as far as I know, that make any sense-- assuming you believe in it.
Got a nice 1ft by 1ft slab of rock filled with loads of fossilised sealife somewhere I'll take a photo at some point
>>8393738
Can't wait to see, dude.
nice thread, look what I've got.
Giant Mastodon
>>8393761
Extinct Cave Bear vs Brown bear which lives today
>>8393706
I'd posit that there are inbuilt behavioral and environmental criterion in the human mind. Models of predatory species ingrained through millions of years of mammalian evolutions, a European dragon is a T-rex with wings presumably a cross-model between aerial predators and ground predators that is a definitive modality for 'deadly'. An Asian dragon shows that perhaps snakes were the apex of the food chain in Asia. Though I don't have any evidence of this. Does anyone?
>>8393722
So her explanation is gospel? Iron causes soft tissue to last 63,000,000 years?
>>8393803
I work at a museum and also I'm a Biology student, been on several expeditions. Here's a dolphin jawbone I found
>>8393803
Got some of our close relatives as well.
>>8393706
Better question - why do you even post on /sci//?
>>8393803
Yes, let's not think for ourselves. It was the iron in the collagen that allowed it to last in a pliable state for 63,000,000 years.
And fuck Marco Polo for writing about a T-Rex terrorizing a village. What does he know?
>>8393845
To hear and enjoy the thunderous wind chimes of cognitive dissonance displayed herein.
Where else can you find people who think a bacteria turned into a dinosaur and implanted their likeness into human ancestors?
Where else can you find people who look at a komodo dragon and say nope, not a dinosaur?
Where else can you show someone supposedly 63,000,000 years of an unchanged coelacanth and have them say "nope, didn't need to change"?
This place is autism central, and I am always amused at the denizens herein.
>>8393866
You used herein twice. Nice try though.
Reptiles are not dinosaurs. This is fact.
Why am I even trying to talk to a troll of such low quality. Go to /x/. You'll fit right in.
>>8393957
It was b8 m8. Caught me an autist herein too!
>>8393957
Dinos are lizards.
Lizards are reptiles.
Therefore Dinos are reptiles.
Really, we need a /logic/ board. So many monkey brained people, so little time.
>>8390964
/sci/ geology threads are one of the only good threads on this board. there was a comfy thread a few weeks back about mineral specimens.
>>8393706
not a single creationist model is used in industry.
how do you explain that?
>>8393998
really
makes
you
think
>>8393998
Er, how is the "Big Bang" theory "used in industry"?
>>8393998
Since you don't seem to have an answer, let's make it more difficult.
Tell me something from the "Big Bang" theory that is "used in industry" that is mutually exclusive to what really happened 6020 years ago.
>>8394100
The show? The show entitled "The Big Bang"? And porn? That's your refutation of Christianity?
I would laugh, but you think you're rational.
>>8394124
Huh, you really don't have a sense of humor, huh?
Guess it confirms my accusation of your autism.
>>8394099
the thread is about fossils and evolution, not the big bang.
evolution is the best explanation for why all species didn't exist on the planet at the same time. from that assumption the concept of "benchmark fossils" was created and it is heavily used in relative dating for the purpose of resource extraction. the oil/gas and mineral industry uses these assumptions on an almost daily basis.
no creationist has been able to offer a model that even remotely comes close to the predictability and repeatability that the evolutionary model brings.
until that happens, evolution is the status quo. you are obviously scientifically illiterate if you can't understand that gross approximation and incomplete models are standard fare in modern science. shit, we still use the hard shell model of the atom for certain applications.
OP here, gonna say goodnight. Hurricane's a-coming, and I want to be well rested if anything happens.
>>8393957
Please forgive my ignorance but.
>Reptiles are not dinosaurs. This is fact.
How so? Could you please provide information about this?
Also, might as well ask.
I saw a few days ago a documental about dinosaurs and they were describing several species, the usual stuff.
But then, the doc went about the behavioral practices of these dino's, how could the scientists know dinosaurs complex behaviour, such as fights, mating practices and the like, from fossilized bones.
Is there some special analysis or something, or is this 60% conjecture 30% lucky bone placement 10% wild fantasies?
In any case, nice thread.
>>8394630
Reptiles and dinos evolved separately, and dinos may have been warm-blooded (as birds are.)
Also, it depends, but they base it on other animals, lucky bone placement, and guessing from bone structure. There's also a couple other things, but I'm no expert, just an enthusiast.