Does it concern any of you that everything that has exists and

>>8387665
yes.

>>8387683
This is what keeps me awake at night.

>>8387665
yes

Not really, it's actually kind of comforting, because it is certain. In fact, it's one of the only certainties in my life right now. All of the problems that we'll ever face, all of the decisions we'll make, one day; will be gone.

I'm kinda just glad that I'm alive for the moment. Our accomplishments and advancements matter to us, and those that they effect. Yes, they will one day fade, but what doesn't?

Right now, I'm in class with 11 other people whose decisions will one day not matter, whose lives only matter the their loved ones and personal circle. We place the value in our lives, everything about the universe is either a convenience or disadvantageous, based on what we want for ourselves. The only value we have in the universe is the value we place in ourselves, the universe won't miss us when we're gone, and it won't cheer us on if we progress.

Everything "dies", the universe is no exception to this.

"gone" is subjective
the idea of 'you' and the idea of your accomplishments will be gone, but the matter that made your body and all the energy you ever used will remain

>>8388886

yeah man we end up as part of the stars XD i fucking love science

>>8387665

how do you experience "non-existence"?

as in, how do you lose yourself?

>>8387665
It's a virtual reality. There are save points.

>>8390182
Mom's spaghetti

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5U1-OmAICpU

>>8387665
God will still exist.

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>>8388841
>It's a shame she won't live - but then again, who does?

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>>8387665
At 2 am every night I get super depressed about everyone I know dying as well as myself. I have to watch tv to sleep otherwise I'll have a huge anxiety attack.

Shit sucks man, I love you guys.

I empathize with my fellow humans, knowing we all face certain eternal oblivion, so I think that makes me a better person compared to when I was religious. Still wish I believed in heaven, the sleep was much better, and driving wasn't so nerve wrecking.

>>8390447
Nothing is certain. Death can be disturbing. Not being able to die can be equally so. Uncertainty is usually disturbing but i think uncertainty about death is not such a bad thing.

>>8387665
This way of thinking is an excuse for beeing lazy.

>>8387665
We aint goin nowhere nigga.
That porn magazine of yours is gonna be in the universal archiver for trillions of years.

>>8390447

> knowing we all face certain eternal oblivion

How did you find out there was oblivion after death? That is a certainty of physicalism, which itself has flaws and criticisms

Everyone knows life is meaningless in the scope of things. It has meaning for your conscience self in this very moment only but that's enough for me personally.

Ask yourself this instead; If everything is meaningless, why are you concerned by it?

>>8387665
I find it incredibly arrogant that you think something that's going to happen many millions of years from now concerns you in the slightest.

>>8387665
I find it incredibly arrogant of you that you think something that's going to happen many millions of years from now concerns you in the slightest.

>>8387665
"Anon look, the stars are out!"

Time is cyclic senpai. The universe repeats infinitely.

>>8390426
Well, looks like it's time to rewatch Blade Runner for the 20th time.

>>8387665
Shits fucked up. A few days ago a similar thought crossed my mind.

I was watching an old Eminem concert and I was thinking, dam, I will never know what it was like hearing him for the first time rapping crazy shit in 1997 on Just Don't Give a Fuck.
Just like I will never know what it was like hearing Biggie for the first time ripping the beat apart with the first line with his monstrous voice and flow on Party & Bullshit in 1992.
Just like I will never know what it was like hearing the God MC rap for the first time.

Those moments are lost, forever.

That's why I hope that there is something like a god and a paradise or afterlife.

>>8391526
But there isn't

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>>8390192
>It's a virtual reality.

This!
Although if it's a virtual reality it's probably running on a meat computer/brain. In which case it's more like somebody's dream than a virtual reality sim.
What keeps me up at night? What happens when the dreamer wakes up? Will everything disappear? Will the world pick right up again where it left off next time the dreamer falls asleep? Are my dreams the same in that they create a universe? Are the people in my dreams alive, aware, and conscious? What happens to the world I dream up when I wake? What if I have a dream and can't remember when I wake up? If our world is a dream, will I be remembered when the dreamer wakes up?
>literally keeps me up at night

>>8391934

why, whats your thoughts on it?

>>8387665
Take a page from the stoics: don't concern yourself with things you have no control over. It is a waste of your life.

>>8387665
>The New Creation
>Chapter 21
>The New Heaven and the New Earth. 1 Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth. The former heaven and the former earth had passed away, and the sea was no more. 2 I also saw the holy city, a new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. 3 I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, “Behold, God’s dwelling is with the human race. He will dwell with them and they will be his people and God himself will always be with them [as their God]. 4 He will wipe every tear from their eyes, and there shall be no more death or mourning, wailing or pain, [for] the old order has passed away.”
>5 The one who sat on the throne said, “Behold, I make all things new.” Then he said, “Write these words down, for they are trustworthy and true.” 6 He said to me, “They are accomplished. I [am] the Alpha and the Omega, the beginning and the end. To the thirsty I will give a gift from the spring of life-giving water. 7 The victor will inherit these gifts, and I shall be his God, and he will be my son. 8 But as for cowards, the unfaithful, the depraved, murderers, the unchaste, sorcerers, idol-worshipers, and deceivers of every sort, their lot is in the burning pool of fire and sulfur, which is the second death.”

>>8391967
>What keeps me up at night? What happens when the dreamer wakes up? Will everything disappear? Will the world pick right up again where it left off next time the dreamer falls asleep?
maybe each night of dream sleep is start and end of universe and a new big bang every time whatever goes to sleep again/dreams next

>>8387665

What's even stranger to think is that nothing had to exist at all. The universe and everything in it never had to exist at all, and certainly not in any form where intelligent life is able to come about, yet here we are.

>>8388886
checked

>>8387665
does it concern you that without the zero point energy field electrons would fall out of their orbits and the entire universe would annihilation in less than 5 picoseconds?

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Something similar will be return.

A massive Black hole will form out off all black holes merging, some critical number will be reached not even theorized yet and eventually, another big bang will happen.

If my theory is correct and this process is constant, you might even be reborn in zillions of billions of millenia when your materia managed to happen to reform your brain again out of luck/bound to happen given enough time.

My second theory might be bogus but the first I find plausible, what ever that is worth.

Doesn't concern me much. Why does anything exist at all is the far more important question.

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>>8387665
Hence religion.

>>8387665
What is it with this superfluous fixation on "meaning"? Just enjoy your life while it lasts and try to adopt a better "philosophy" that won't "meaninglessly" bother your mind so much.

>>8387665
>not believing in God

What created dark matter and couldn't god exist out human logix

There is a very very infinitesimally small chance that we survive long enough and advance our knowledge of this place to a point where we can control it.

If we can control it, perhaps we'll be able to induce it to never disappear. You should keep working with that hope in mind. Either that or off yourself right now.

>>8393293
>all this nihilism
Nihilism is the lack of a philosophy. You can't properly call it a philosophy

>>8387665
>"our accomplishments"

No, it actually doesn't concern me at all, I can't wait for you to get the fuck back to your original state. You were a mistake.

It's the Nutshack

>>8392813
space expands anon, and black holes evaporate.

>>8393327
>having autism

lel

>>8393538
Can I properly call you a mentally ill autist? Do you allow me that privilege?

>>8387665
You have to realise that we are just a fragment of existence itself. Individuality is a disillusionment we are forced into, it's why we are divided.

Get into that Buddha and Allan Watts/Osho stuff, you'll understand things a lot better.


Philosophy > Scholarship

I'm glad it will be gone. Life is a curse, it's just a constant scramble of struggle and suffering. It has to go. Everything must go.

>>8387665
No, because I do not share your godless infantile worldview.

>>8393560
Or yours.

>>8394023
Or yours.

Is everyone on this board autistic?

>>8387665
Well I'm not an Atheist sooo no

>>8387665
You have an odd view of time if you think that'll happen. Of course, at any finite area of space and time, it'll evolve to "nothingness", even though literal space itself isn't empty. To have an object, you need space, to have space, you need an object. Time isn't real faggot, accept the infinite static 4th dimentional universe as it is. Now only feels like it's going forward because the entity that is "you", is projected based purely on how fast a neuron can fire, and how fast electricity travels across neurons. We just happen to percieve time like this due to our brains. We could change that, so we percieve it differently. But the underlying truth is the static 4d universe. Learn relativity.

>>8387665
I'm fine with it, but I just don't know how to break it to my mother

>>8393558
lets try to keep it civil here