For a faggot like me who is planning to attend Medical School,

Yes, no, maybe so!

Consider the following:

he's like 45 y/o.

>>8365228
>what's the point of even doing medicine
lots and lots and lots of money
>if you can't be the best
precisely, you don't even need to

He is actually not good
Every episode he makes 5 wrong diagnosis causing them to apply invasive treatment before making the right one
In real life the effects of the previous treatments will usually lead to cancer, organ failure or general decline in health

>>8365243
I always loved how you never saw the aftermath in House. ie, the crippling debt and medical bills for the next 15 years of your life.

he is a meme tv character

in the real world people far better than you with better opportunities study their whole lives and only manage to have a few flashes of inspiration like he does and only in very narrow fields, rarely in time to save the day, though sometimes something like it does happen

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hugo_Moser_(scientist)

>>8365228
>is it possible to be as good as this guy

I made the same mistake as you when I was younger. House is written to generate a narrative that seems logically consistent to viewers, but isn't.

For example, doctors missing obvious indications for the cause of the symptoms, tests showing contradictory results, symptoms conveniently disappearing semi-arbitrarily, treatment of the patient in the most dramatic way that doesn't make sense, missing obvious tests, diseases that are presented in a way that doesn't make sense.

You can find a breakdown of each episode by an actual medical doctor here http://www.politedissent.com/house_pd.html

Essentially, don't rely on House to decide if you want to be a doctor. House is shit at actual medicine, and you could out class him

>>8365262
IM NOT CLICKING THAT

hur dur its a fictional character

>>8365243
>Every episode he makes 5 wrong diagnosis
don't think you understood the show. he treats people that a hospital full of doctors weren't able to diagnose anyway, and therefore will most likely die before they get better. So although he treats for the wrong things, he ends up curing patients that would have died anyway.

Would you rather be dead, or alive and undergo a "general decline in health" kek.

>>8365228
Doing medicine for ego rather than to help people or make money.
Get over yourself - you are one of 7 billion people. You do not deserve to be the best at anything, learn to accept this.

>>8365405
how did you become such a cuckold? just because you don't deserve to be the best at anything, doesn't mean others don't. and ego is a perfectly good reason to pursue a career in medicine. same reason works for most of the doctors in the world. What, you think they do it to "help people". lol, grow up.

>>8365228
i want stupid /tv/ socialites to die.

>>8365245
it's almost as though it was a tv show, weird huh

>>8365228
You're not going to get into med school, and if you do, you'll be a garbage doctor.
Medicine is an imperfect science, and perfectionists crash and burn when they can't handle that.

>Getting inspired by a tv show to spend 15 years trying to be a doctor
Fucking retard

>>8365274
it is just a wikipedia article about a good wholesome scientist

you can see clearly it goes to the wikipedia netpage, please click it to get an impression of what real discoveries are like to help in your career and life

House is not a good doctor. In some episodes there are simple diagnoses that he somehow only considers after a week.
Being a doctor is shit, regardless of what you hear. Too much responsibility and it takes years upon years to actually start making good money. Before your specialization you basically earn less than specialist nurses.

>>8366132
This. I am a doctor in eu. I got a job as cardiac surgery resident but i dont know if i should accept it. Living 0600-night every day every week every year of ur life and for what? Passion? Patients? Only now i understand why so many people went in dermatology , radiology and this other shit.

>>8366378
Welcome to the cuck life of medicine

>>8365228
>If not, then what's the point of even doing medicine if you can't be the best?
Can't speak for Americans, but here, you have a choice. You can work in the public sector, and you'll be overworked, underpaid (when taking into account the years of study, training, etc and responsibility), or you can work in the private sector, get paid a hell of a lot while working decent hours, by treating your patients as your customers and gouging them for every cent you can.

Not a situation I'd like to be in

My wife, Pediatrician, diagnosed a kid with a type of abdominal cancer that had not ever presented in the western hemisphere. So yes, you can House if you're good.

>>8365228
Your will never be as good as a character who is literally written into situations that make him look good.

>>8365228
It is not possible. He is fictional. The amount of medical knowledge that he possesses, combined with extraordinary insight, memory and intelligence is beyond the realms of anything I have ever heard of. But that's a necessary part of the formula. He's a Sherlock Holmes of medicine.

>If not, then what's the point of even doing medicine if you can't be the best?

What's the point in anything? Do you believe, sincerely, that you will ever be the best at anything in your (insofar as a 'best' even can be said to objectively exist)? But you still do it. Most of us have to settle for a life of complete mediocrity. But maybe if you save someone's life, you can console yourself on your deathbed that your life mattered because you saved some faggot 40 years earlier.

I did talk to a surgeon once who recounted his own 'House moment'. There was a patient at the hospital that no one could diagnose/treat. He happened to be passing and diagnosed them instantly with leprosy. It's so rare in the US that you don't think of it, but the surgeon in question had spent a lot of time in India treating patients (where the incidence of leprosy is much higher) and saw all of the signs.

So you might have to console yourself with a single moment of extraordinary insight and, you know, spend the rest of your life being an immensely respected and rich member of society.

>>8365228
How are retards such as yourself able to enter medical school? Whose cock did you suck?

I'm in my 4th year of my medicine degree and I hate it, I also don't know what I'm going to do with my life after I finish because it's not medicine.
Fortunately it's an undergrad degree here so I'll still be young when I'm done. Only do it if you really want to and actually find medicine interesting already.
I've never met a doctor who's as good as House irl btw. I've met many who are amazing in their specific fields but no one who's as good in every area of medicine as House

>>8367424
Personally I'm also 4th year of med-school, and I've really enjoyed it so far. Couldn't last more than a single episode of House though, it was absolutely retarded

>implying medicine is anything nearly like the TV shows
>implying the designation "pre-med" is worth jack shit
>implying you will get into any med schools besides the carribean
>implying you won't become a communications major after the first actual biology or chemistry test.

>>8366378
> live in France
> be a dermatologist in training
> in 2 years finally finishing specialization
> 30k/month starting pay

God damn this feels good

>>8368292
>implying the designation "pre-med" is worth jack shit
>implying you will get into any med schools besides the carribean

I have never gotten why in America you first need to obtain a semi-relevant undergraduate degree and only after that you can choose to actually pursue medicine. Wouldn't it be more logical and time consuming to, just like in most of Europe, be admitted to study Medicine straight out of high school?

>>8365228
why don't you just become a rock star or NFL player instead?

>>8368327
The reason for this is the consumer model of education that is prevalent in the US; rather than apply to a specific program (like medicine) you only declare your major after a year or two of "finding yourself," i.e. spending money on shit you don't need.

>>8368327
You technically can be, with BA/MD programs. But the better answer is that United States has a limited amount of residencies, which support a limited amount of med schools. Given that most US medical graduates (like 95 percent) get a residency, only a certain amount of med schools can be actually sustainable. The competition to actually get into med school after undergrad is also huge, with the overall acceptance rate of like 40 percent, with a shitload of hoops to actually get in. If you have a good GPA, and a good MCAT, you can still be rejected for not having enough research, community service, or experiencing with patient contact.

High School stats are also awful at predicting success in med school.

>>8368350
That's... not even remotely close to being true, unless you are going to an absolutely shit-tier university. I applied to specific programs, and have been rejected for specific programs, and was only given the option of going into my second choice of program.

>>8368319
>30K/month
>half of that goes to income taxes
>even more for social security

no thanks

>>8368355
This is not only in the United States. In Belgium and the Netherlands for example (two countries I've practised medicine in) there is a limited amount of residencies as well. However, instead of making a selection after the undergraduate degree, they just make a selection right out of high school by way of an entrance exam. For example in Belgium the success rate in the entrance exam is around 15% every year. It features a general IQ-ish test, a social competences test, and tests on chemistry, maths, physics and biology.

Now, still, there's no fucking reason to only do this selection after 4 years of wasting money on an undergrad degree.

>>8368360
To my knowledge, all public universities in the US have this model, including the largest, the University of California, where I work. I'd like to hear the name of the programs you are referring to so I can look them up.

>>8368366
>having a very poor and stereotypical grasp of French tax law

ok

>>8368379
Just citing this source
https://www.french-property.com/guides/france/finance-taxation/taxation/
care to provide another that shows I'm wrong?

>>8368387
>care to provide another that shows I'm wrong?

I'm French

>>8368377
https://web.wpi.edu/academics/catalogs/ugrad/flip/html5forwebkit.html?page=0

Yes there are humanities you are required to take but unless you go full retard you take mostly related classes your first year.

>>8368395
So instead of trying to correct my "stereotype," which I found on what seems to be a reputable website, I'm supposed to believe you that I'm wrong just on the basis that you're "French"?

Can you even answer what percentage of your income goes to taxes? Or do you just not care?

>>8368395
Super argument, enculé

>>8368401
I admit that I don't know much about private polytechnic colleges, and this seems to be more in line with how other countries' education systems work. They still seem to have a lot of "breadth" requirements (such as humanities and social sciences) that usually aren't present in technical education, though; it seems that WPI doesn't really know what type of school it wants to be. Again, though, it's not "shit-tier" universities that impose these types of requirements.

>>8368430
In my experience, I haven't seen many schools that admit you, and MAKE you take general courses for even a semester. On common applications, pretty much all schools require you to list your major. You are correct in that schools ALLOW you to stay undecided for two years, but once again, I haven't seen many examples of where it's mandatory. Either way your point is correct in that, American students do need to take a lot of bullshit courses.

Oh, and another to keep in mind, a lot of successful High School students take AP, which waive a lot of school's requirement to take bullshit classes.

>>8365387
Good luck getting into med school with this sperg level of autism

>If not, then what's the point of even doing medicine if you can't be the best
you make a lot of money just for being medicore and working moderate hours (after residence, of course)

is radiology really as easy as my friend is telling me
he says "yo go to radiology you simply need to find a dot on a picture and that's all you do all day and you get a lot of $$$, easy"

>>8365228
ai will be doing your job before u get it lol

>>8369455
No its not that easy. Counting undergrad you'll be in school for 8 years and will be payed jack shit for 3