1. Why haven't we copied the bacterial motor using solid

>>8288098
You mean "Protonics"?

http://www.decodedscience.org/proton-based-circuitry-may-revolutionize-electronics/3579

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>>8288104
thanks, didn't know they already made some prototypes.

here's the nature article if anyone else wants to read it:

http://sci-hub.cc/10.1038/ncomms1489

By the way, are the flagella motors in protozoa similar to bacterial flagella? (do they work in a similar way?)

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posting more cute biomachines

>>8288115
>tfw when 900 million years ago we were once one of these things

fuck flagella, plants are where it's at

>self-reinforcing
>self-replicating
>efficient exploration of space as modified by available resources
plants are the engineering tool we never realized we wanted

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>>8288139
well not really, we're evolved forms, so that means we share a common ancestor (that's our real grand-grand....-grand pappy).

But also each time a species evolves you can't really say that the root species is the same as the leaf species, they're two totally different species they just share a few things.

>>8288147
Thats what I meant anon 900 million years ago our ancestors were similar to these things.

>>8288148
>900 million years ago our ancestors were similar to these things.
except you don't know that

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>>8288148
yeah but even though they're simple we can still learn a lot from them.

>>8288158
900 million years ago all life was similar to Amoebas so our ancestors had to be similar to these lifeforms from that long ago. Its only until 700 million years ago the first multicellular life began.

>>8288146
up to ferns, plant sperm is flagellated

>>8288098
How exactly did stuff like this even evolve? Can this complexity be reduced?

>>8288171
Yes, they recently did a study on different bacteria and they saw that some had more complex motors than others.

http://phys.org/news/2016-03-incredible-images-reveal-bacteria-motor.html

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seems like using protons is much more efficient than using electrons. 1000 protons for 1 rotation, while it probably takes 10^12 electrons to do the same thing.

>>8288098
I'm sorry i never went to school ... Op is a nanobot?

>>8288098
>more mass means more power

nigger that doesn't make sense

Electricity makes shit spin around via magnetism not with the mass of electrons

>>8289996
What

>>8288163
>organisms
>simple
>ever

>>8288139
Pretty sure not, after our lineages separated the lineage leading to Euglena didn't stop evolving. It's very different in terms of looks and physiology to its ancestors.

>>8288098

2. Bacteria cannot use electrons directly because free electrons are unstable in aqueous conditions. Protons are only really advantageous for current carrying when water is present.

>>8288169
Sure but nobody gives a shit about lower plants

>>8288171
>How exactly did stuff like this even evolve?
mutation → variety → selection
repeat for a million generations