If chlorine is used to kill bacteria in water why can't it be used as a medicine with injecting into the bloodstream ?
We already use fluorine for that.
>>8191445
becuase chlorine already exists in our blood by increasing the levels even a little bit in imbalances the equilibria with the sodium ions which would effect your bloods PH causing bodily enzymes to cease working at optimum throughout your body
it is major body anion, you would fuck up electrolyte balance
>>8191445
if we autoclave instruments to kill bacteria why don't you just autoclave yourselves?
>>8191445
http://www.freedrinkingwater.com/water_quality/quality1/1-cl2-resistant-pathogens.htm
http://aem.asm.org/content/54/3/649.full.pdf
Basically, baccteria have been developing Chlorine resistance ever since we started using it to purify water.
Its been 100 years since the first Chlorine water treatment started. There are many strains that are totally immune now, to Elemental Chlorine.
>>8191445
Next time you have a bacterial infection, just inject yourself with a syringe full of chlorine based bleach and find out.
>>8191473
Fuck this is upsetting me. We will eventually create a super-bacteria thats immune to all our defenses.
How to we fight against bacteria if all the known anti-biotics don't kill it ?
>>8191481
Lets see it develop resistance to this
Macrophages motherfucker
>>8191487
Aww yis, forgot about these little guys.
Life may be real good at developing resistance to single chemicals but macrophages are a whole different animal, and in general there are also viruses and other bacteria that are specialized to kill each other.
When our 'weapons' don't work, we just need to recruit living weapons from nature to do our work for us.
>>8191487
> Macrophages are a type of white blood cell that engulfs and digests cellular debris, foreign substances, microbes, cancer cells, and anything else that does not have the types of proteins specific of healthy body cells.
> cancer cells
Then why don't we pump out these meatgringers into the bloodstream to basically get rid of anything ?
>>8191490
Because the cancer cells and the bacteria can mimic the healthy proteins that our normal cells use to avoid destruction by the macrophages.
But we're working on a way of tagging them such that they can't modify the markers and the macrophages can find these special markers.
>>8191493
Oh ok. Thanks for the informative response.
So it's basically that macrophages are like terminators that can destroy anything. The only task is to show em the targets right ?
Another question; why aren't they enough for cancer treatment and we need lots of extra expensive and long-term stuff to battle cancer ?
>>8191445
Back in the 1990s, during class, the substitute teacher would tell us all sorts of nuggets of wisdom. One that I remember to this day is where he said that the cure for AIDS had been found. It was to inject people with bleach in order to kill the virus.
>>8191481
We just switch back and forth between products to kill them every 100 years or so. That is what is happening with antibiotics now. Ancient antibiotics that were abandoned because of disease resistance are not being used because those microbes lost their resistance over time.
>>8191463
nah
>>8191497
somebody answer this please ?
>>8191497
>why aren't they enough for cancer treatment
cancer is not caused by bacteria
>...and we need lots of extra expensive and long-term stuff to battle cancer
why cuer cancer when you can mak lots on shekels by selling some expensive cancer treatment?
>>8192105
But it says macrophages attack cancer cells aswell.
Great idea bro next time you're sick just inject a few CCs of bleach.