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if free will doesnt exist and we are deterministic, how is psychology

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if free will doesnt exist and we are deterministic, how is psychology and sociology not real sciences? check mate /sci/
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Intelligence and conciousness are really complicated phenomenon that we do not understand properly - and psychology and sociology are weak and pathetic attempts at tackling arguably one of the most fundamental questions humans have ever asked.
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>>7969269
does this mean that as knowledge of the human body and its processes increases, so does the legitimacy og psychology?
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>>7969273
>brain
>any knowledge about it
I'm sorry. :(
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>>7969273
Only to an extent, psychology really only deals with the material implications of what are largely neurological issues. A failure to assess the subsystems of the human psyche on the micro and possibly even the quantum spectrum(s) is a failure to empirically determine the actual issues, though a combination of both is truly ideal. Neuropsychology is the closest we have and despite that it's a heavily skeptisized field.
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>>7969267
its a soft determinism.

like theres high probabililties,
but in way does that entail any certainty.

also behavior may --MAY-- be deterministic, but it is also
learned
and unique to each individual.
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>>7969267
>if free will doesnt exist and we are deterministic
[citation needed]

>how is psychology and sociology not real sciences?
Why would a deterministic subject imply a scientific study?
Physics is ultimately non-deterministic, and yet it IS subject to scientific study.
Computers are deterministic, and yet it is *possible* to study them in a non-scientific way.
checkmate Opie
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