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If you already know from the existence of mankind that biological

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If you already know from the existence of mankind that biological life can occur in a planet with the right conditions to a level where those biological entities create civilizations, means of transportation and communication, then does it basically make it impossible to debunk the possibility of the existence of aliens ?
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well ? >:o
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>>7928828
yeah but it doesn't mean you proved they exist or anything
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>>7928828
Ya. No one can actually say alien life is impossible and be able to prove it. In fact that'd be a much more difficult thing to prove than proving aliens do exist.
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inb4 OP tries to claim that the possibility of the existence of alien life is the same thing as aliens have been here to put things in rednecks' poo holes
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>>7928893
well aliens do exist... :^)
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>>7928899
i seen bright thing in sky too. we kno THE Truth!
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>>7928911
well you know what they say. the simplest explaination is usually the correct one ;)
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>>7928828
>biological life can occur in a planet with the right conditions to a level where those biological entities create civilizations
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>>7928965
the existence of mankind is not an assumption anon...it's the reality.
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>>7928965
Assume this: we observe that life will find a way to exist. And flourish, despite conditions; emergence, adaptation and evolution appear to be inherent functions, parts of the mechanism of life.

In ideal Earth-like conditions, I would propose that the existence of intelligent life is close to a certainty.

To debunk this you could consider the probability of Earth-like systems existing, but the sheer numbers make that rather high.

You could look to extinction-level events which have shaped our fauna particularly, and wonder whether their non-occurence might affect outcomes. Or, if they didn't actually make much of a difference, in geological timescales.

Or you could plead to the existence of God and our special place in His design.

Or if you come up with anything more rational to either criticise the assumptions or suggest other possibilities, please share.
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>>7928997
>making even more assumptions

Just because you have the conditions for life doesn't mean you get life.
Civilizations aren't the end result of natural selection either. Human societies as we know them now are the end result of an extremely long and complex string of implausible random events coalescing together in an extremely fortuitous manner. Maybe it only happened once in the galaxy, maybe it happened a million times.
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>>7929007
>In ideal Earth-like conditions, I would propose that the existence of intelligent life is close to a certainty
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>>7929007
Slow down there James Bond. I'd stop and say perhaps the chances of prokaryotic cells (or something similar) or next to none, even in proper conditions. If not that, I could say the chances of evolving onto eukaryotic cells are extremely slim. I understand the law of large numbers, but without knowing the chances of life occurring even that doesn't matter.
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>>7929010
Yeah humanity didn't come out of biological evolution in a planet with the right conditions, it's just an assumption... An assumption made by a biological entity which came out of biological evolution in a planet with the right conditions,

> omg so implausible complex events bla bla bla
you're trying so hard to form a sentence with big words to appear like you have an answer even though you completely avoided to see that complex life already evolved in a planet with the right conditions,

> Maybe it only happened once in the galaxy, maybe it happened a million times.
aaand now you just contradicted yourself like an idiot as expected while trying to sound smart. Go wear your fedora elsewhere fegit.
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>>7929010
It does make you wonder how different the outcome could have been if events played out only slightly different. Like a dinosaur was never able to hunt down a small marsupial creature, and that went on to eventually become mammals.
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>>7929014
> Earth-like conditions don't exist
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>>7928965
>>7929010
Hypothesis: intelligent life at the level of humans can emerge on a planet.
Proof: humans exist.
That's all OP is trying to say, why you gotta drag unrelated shit into this?
>Just because you have the conditions for life doesn't mean you get life.
This is true, but it's not relevant. If you have the conditions for life, you could maybe get life. Therefore it's practically impossible to refute the possibility of ayy lmaos.
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>>7929051
or to sum it up, we can be technically defined as aliens; thus aliens exist and in similar planetary conditions, other aliens can exist as well.
And yes, we are the irrefutable proof.
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>>7929051
>it's impossible to refute the possibility of aliens
cool wisdom ƒαм
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>>7929071
> trying so hard to be a fedoretarded contrarian but failing miserably due to the inabliity to form counter-arguments
kek
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>>7929071
>*practically*
You can of course scour every planet in the whole galaxy until you've found not a black swan.
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>>7929049
Wut? Out of the billions of star systems in the universe, you think there won't be other Earth-like planets? Who's the retard?
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>>7929184
Crap, responded to the wrong poster. Apologies anon.
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>>7929014
If you stopped reading there, you are a dick. Because anyone who thinks they have all the answers is a dick. Are you here to share ideas, or get off on being right?
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>>7929195
No he clearly gets off on being wrong.
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>>7928828
You can debunk it . you just gotta check a few places.
Also memes and inconclusive experiments aside we dont know how life got here.
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>>7928997
Prove it
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>>7929289
you proved it already by posting here
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