how do we crush nihilism, hedonism and cultural marxism? ht

the only way to do so would be to restrict people's access to education

By retrieving our fathers from the depths of the dragon

>>39444788
I think you mean reform. All of my teachers from grade 1 to 7 were middle aged leftist women who belittled me everytime I showed any sign of masculine behavior.

>>39444817

nihilism has nothing to do with masculinity

once a person understands the true scale and nature of the universe and their insignificance in it nihilism is the only reasonable belief system left

therefore if you wish to eliminate it you must prevent people from learning about the universe

i do not advocate this course of action, i advocate nihilism

>>39444830
wrong.

the human ability to abstract means our internal subjective worlds are just as, if not more important than the pure objective material.

I believe nihilism is not a negative mindset, as it cannot be so anyway, but rather a useful realization. It is not "bad" to realize that meaning is a baseless concept, as "bad" requires meaning to be. Nihilism is nothing more than a basic stepping stone to acknowledging the nature of the universe. If you need outside purpose or objective purpose at all to figure out how you want to live, you're just weak willed and a sheep.

>>39444941

muh subjective feels

kek

understand the human condition. hedonism, utilitarianism and nihilism are purely rational choices based on logic

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It's so amusing watching people fight over who believes what regarding meaning

>>39444830
Once a person understands that life has no inherent meaning and is finite, the only reasonable belief system is to enjoy it as much as you can. Hedonism is one way of doing so, but I'd argue classical Stoicism results in more happiness overall. Humans need more than pleasure, they also need virtue and pride in themselves to be as happy as possible.

Nihilism completely misses the point, going only as far as saying there is no meaning to life, but failing to realize that means me must create one or suffer.

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>>39444765
Stop people from commins to the internet to dwelve in their own self pity and doubt but instead encourage them stand up for themselves and their people

>>39444974
I can guarantee you are astoundingly less intelligent than you believe. Run along and watch Sargon now.

>>39444765
With Christianity of course!!

>>39445033

stop espousing shitty opinions and then you won't get blown the fuck out retard

>>39444993
You will suffer whether you create a meaning or not. That is all there is. Happiness is only the time between suffering.

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I do consider myself a nihilist and even though you cannot crush nihilsm or generally people's opinions and views on life, I would like to find some way to stop being depressed and thinking about how pointless we are and atleast enjoy the rest of my life happy.But that also puts another question in my head: Should you numb your thoughts and live in a happy lie or continue thinking and wandering and live a sad truth?

>>39444997
This picture explains exactly why being a selfish nihilist only leads to self ruin

>>39445146
No dude nihilism is an easy way out. You need to find or create your own reason for being.

If anyone is interested jordan peterson has some lectures up on his channel if you're interested in psychology.

I've only watched personality and its transformation but it's pretty interesting.

>>39444997
Who gives a shit about others, why should I care for other's people sake?

People are egoistical by nature, that's why communism will never work out. When I stopped caring about others and be gentle my life has been better, only think of yourself and your own happiness. In this world the only law is the jungle one.

>>39445309
What if i hate myself and only care about other people's happiness?

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>>39445309
>Who gives a shit about others, why should I care for other's people sake?
Because you need other people even if you don't realize it. You're not the superhuman survivor your ancestors were waaay back

>People are egoistical by nature
>hurr it's in nature so we must do it
It's in our nature to fuck everything and breed like crazy but we don't do it. The reason humans prospered and evolved from their "caveman" hunter gatherer state was because of community and society building

But sure, continue with your selfish and close minded nihilstic behaviour and see where it leads you

>>39445366
What you gain from having this attitude?

Change yourself because that way you will only suffer, you can't even kill yourself because muh others, be selfish.

>>39445425
Nah, that shit won't work on me and that's not how reality works, university taught that me well, people only wants to fuck you, when they're finished with you bye-bye. Be compassionate is a good way to be fucked so no thanks.

It leads to my own happiness which is by far the most important thing, since no one can't escape itself.

>>39445444
But maybe I'll get murdered or hit by a car some day and it will all end.

>>39445755
And someday humanity will go extinct.

Such is life.

>>39444765
There are a couple solutions.
> 1
Elect a truly redpilled president. He should be a veteran, a governor, preferably an intellectual (not a showman and a buffoon like Trump). He should be a student of Skousen, McCarthy and Bezeminov.
> 2
Or you could go full insurrectionist and try to destroy institutions that indoctrinate people like Lanza believed
> 3
Spread counter sedition that focuses on revolution/coups etc.

>>39444765
You shouldn't. Or, perhaps more importantly, you can't. You cannot drown out free thought, because that way of thinking will resurface. It's inevitable, and a violation of free speech.
And it's stupid to think that nihilism makes oneself devoid of all sense of happiness, drives one away from responsibility. Nihilism is simply the acceptance that humans aren't important, we're not special and nothing means anything.
This can, when you only have a basic understanding of the concept, drive you away from responsibility and meaning. Drive yourself away from happiness (if nothing means anything, why should I be happy and be responsible? I'll choose to be upset all the time for no reason and reject all meaning instead.) However, you eventually realise how liberating it is. If we're going to die, the universe will die and nothing matters, why not enjoy life? Reject social norms and conventions unless they have a reason to exist, otherwise they're holding you back from enjoying life.
And sure, there's no meaning. But you can choose to either
>create meaning
>reject all meaning instead.

>>39445146
I'm a nihilist too, bud. And it does make me depressed most of the time. You could create meaning (which I haven't managed) or reject the need for meaning and live life the way you want to live it and not give a shit about what people think.

>>39444993
>implying muh feels has anything to do with the reality of our situation

Everyone who argues against nihilism makes this same appeal to consequences fallacy.

I am a nihilist and I suck dick every day!!

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>>39445547
>university taught that me well
>fell for the university meme

that axplains your faggotry

>>39446787
Use actual arguments instead of memes made by asshurt brainlets, faggot

>>39444941
This, as an INTP I find reality boring, fantasy and imagination are more exciting and a healthy balance of both is probably important.

If you just cling to the objective, rational and most realistic aspect of things of course your experience of life will be dull and boring, yet at the same time too much fantasy and you lose your grasp on reality so as someone else ITT already mentioned Classical Stoicism is a good philosophy to follow and I'd argue some tenents of Buddhism as well (but not to the extremes that Buddhists themselves who belong to a monastery and must adhere to Buddhist dogma follow).

In fact a great majority of /r9k/ would benefit from reading up about meditation and Buddhist thought and realize the daily "sufffering" you so dread is only a product of the mind, and how aversion and craving lead to reinforcing negative cycles of behavior and thoughts, etc.

Then of course theres the matter of spirituality and how spiritual you are, if you are spriritual then you realize there is some meaning, you might not know it, but there an intrinsic sense there is, and the realization that the universe is not just the physical matter, atoms and molecules but there are non-material planes as well, and there is more than just the physical reality we observe.

>>39444941
As far as I'm concerned nihilism works to explain your place in the cosmos, which is to say there is no inherent "place" for anything.

But the very concept of meaning in humans means we have to acknowledge that there is at least perceived meaning. Because of this, meaning becomes a very subjective matter, in which you are free to reject outright. Alternatively, you can decide what matters to you and run with it. Maybe you prefer to do what you enjoy, and the only things worth caring about are activities and things which bring you joy, IE, Hedonism.

Essentially, meaning is made up, but the fact of its subjectivity makes for a much more diverse range of worldview. Not everyone can handle being meaningless, and that's OK.

>>39446813
so if nihilism and the selflishness is so great how come the only reason humans have gotten is far is because of cooperation, society and a stable community? Humans work better together and if anyone is going anywhere cooperation is needed. Deny it all your want to further inflate your egostic behaviour but this is the truth

I bet you're a NEET leech

>>39444830
The universe is massive yes but we are the universe itself in a sense, we are not a seperate outside entity to the universe, our atoms that comprise our bodies and minds were forged in the hearts of stars that exploded millions of years ago, and coalesced to form our Earth, our homeworld in this universe we now inhabit.

So be thankful we are alive to experience firsthand the sheer scale and size of the universe, and can comprehend it, marvel at it, experience it firsthand, and traverse the cosmos itself. For all their immense scale, planets, suns and galaxies are just there, without humans or perhaps other intelligent life there to observe them, measure them and marvel at their mind-boggling scale they would just be there, and there would no concept of insignificance because thats a human concept, so its not an intrinsic concept to the universe just one we come up with, because we see the size and scale difference and think that makes us inferior, yet for the sheer size and scale involved we are the ones who can actually appreciate it and comprehend it and then we have a choice - we can marvel at it and feel awed by the sublime or we can compare ourselves to it and consider ourselves insignificant and inferior, but thats only if scale and distance were the most important aspects of the universe, and I'd say they are impressive but not the most important.

The sun dwarfs our world but our world is the only one closeby which we can live on comfortaby as we have for thousands of years, therefore its smaller in scale but infinitely more important and significant to us. You can be humbled by the size and scale of the universe, use it for perspective and be awed by it, no feelings of inferiority or insiginificance necessary.

I for one love to think about the sheer scale and size of it and then appreciate the fact we are the only living creatures that we know of that can do so.

>>39446932
But consider what this anon said >>39444993
>"Humans need more than pleasure"

And I'd agree with him, I think hedonism is a trap we fall into for many years even before realizing that simply chasing empty pleasure is not fulfilling and we need more, I think the ancients understood this well, ancient wisdom should not be discarded because its full of insights and wisdom we ignore or forget in this modern age.

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>>39447090
>he believes in spooks like "progress"

You just don't get it, do you brainlet? Truth is independant of human constructs like "progress".

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>nihilism
Pic related
>hedonism
Pic related
>cultural marxism
No such thing.

And in this endeavour there is no "we", only "I".

>>39444765
With nuclear fire, anon.
That's really the only way and eventually people just have to admit and accept it.
On the other hand, future generations need all the information from the past they can get to learn from past mistakes and not commit them in the first place, which is probably the more correct answer but nuclear fire sounds like such an attractive idea.

>>39445547
But anon, that's just because we let jews run rampant for too long.
They just ruin societies, turn people into nigger acting, sociopathic subhumans who don't care about their country and their people.
Once the first holocaust on kikes will be committed, society will change for the better, I'll promise.

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>>39444765
>Get a job
>Go get married
>Go become religious but not too religious, just in the way that was fine in the 50s
>Help pay for my retirement and healthcare
>Here's a bunch of metaphors and analysis of children's cartoons that prove that my viewpoint which is just traditionalism is right
>Also here's what Jung thought about that
>And Nietzsche
>And Jung
>And also Jung thought this too

>>39446813
This pic explains nihilism well.
You faggots are nothing special and not deep at all, just degenerate scum who needs to be nailed at a cross.

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>>39446813
>Use actual arguments
did someone forgot which website they are on?

Isn't this stuttering whiner getting thousands of dollars on patreon for spouting the same things life coaches and boomer handshake dads say? I know /pol/ hates preaching liberal comedians but they love preaching lifecoaches.

>>39447409
>dude if you don't believe in my bullshit you should die
Calm down Mohammed.

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>>39447332
>he believes in spooks like "truth"
You're a Hegelian and you don't even know it.

>>39447395

Every single video I've seen of this guy, he just rambles on and never seems to make a single point.

>>39447332
Yeah but truth exists outside of your subjective little ant brain. You and me and everyone else is so far away from ultimative and objective truth you may as well denounce it despite knowing it exists.

>>39447395
>be a cog
>be a tool
>you have to function
>if not you're garbage
>be productive
>get a job and a second one
>get a wife that can't think for herself either
>get children who will do the exact same

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>Implying there is anything of value left to do in this society besides dull your senses, masturbate and play video games
>Implying hedonism isn't the best ism
>Implying the Reddit hivemind isn't already becoming the only mainstream acceptable ideology
>Implying automation won't just steal all of our jobs, turning us into useless piece of shit NEETs supported by UBI anyway
>Implying anybody these days besides YouTube commenters care about philosophical definitions

Ah, yes. There we go. Now, back to my dickgirl porn.

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>>39447664
Relevant screenshots incoming

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>>39447752
2/x/??? Orbinal ofc

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>>39447891
3 and there's two more

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>>39447915
I could've edited this or revised it but eh.

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>>39447955
Last one of all

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pic related. Become Supermen

Atleast im trying

>>39444765
You can start by talking to me.
I think every motivation i have in my live are hedonistic ones.
I want to eat -> Hedonism
I wanto to found a family -> Hedonism
I want to donate to africa -> Hedonism
I want to shitpost on 4chan -> Hedonism
What motivation to live is there besides hedonism.
As soon as you let your decisions be influenced by emotions its over.
What way to live is there?

>>39448021
How are you becoming overman? How are you becoming the lightening in the cloud, going under, the meaning of the earth?

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>>39448077
I'm dragging myself out of my current state and living life, I've made my own morals I go by which have been motivated by strength and love. I love reading and I've started working out, I'm going to live and hopefully teach a future qt and my children how to live good and strong.

Live tomorrow as if you had to relive it forever.

I am no hedonist slave nor am i a slave to past slave morals. I am becoming superman

>>39448077
I'm Not >>39448021
But I always interpretet this as follows,
The meaning of earth is to become better. (Evolution)
So to become the meaning of erath you have to constantly get better.
The constant improvement of youself towards the goal of defeating all your weaknesses.