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Is art school useless? I want to get into painting and have been

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Is art school useless? I want to get into painting and have been considering art school but it doesnt seem worth it..can i just teach myself how to paint?
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>>39330406
Art school is pretty worthless. Had Hitler been accepted into art school he would have turned out a nobody.
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>>39330406
Art schools that aren't training you for the industry (trade schools that teach entertainment design, for example like Art Center or a meme school like FZD) are a waste of time because they guarantee no job lockdowns after you leave. But you can take your chance.

If you want to teach yourself to paint, go to /ic/.
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>>39330423
I think it would be funny if there was an alternate reality Hitler who got accepted into art school, was a nobody, and wrote self-published fanfiction about killing jews.
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>>39330406
just take some community classes faggot. don't devote your life to a shitty career.
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>>39330481
Yeah thats what im gonna do honestly..all the pretentious "artsy" people i know tell me that if i want to be a successful painter i have to go to art school..just domt think its worth getting into debt for desu
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Please dont waste your time with art school, you can so easily teach yourself without having to finish 20 sketches in a week and having stress and anxiety. You have so many tutorials, tips and tricks, references and more to help you learn to draw/paint. Not to mention art school is expensive and more so you wont have food to eat if you go to art school. Go to a better school, and be self thought.
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>>39330406
There are art courses online now, you can take classes for a few bucks a month.
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Yes, just teach yourself. Here's a good website for learning to paint (digitally).

https://www.ctrlpaint.com/
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>>39330406
If you get into an actual, respected art school (MICA, Rhode Island, Parson, Pratt) yeah, you may make it if you have talent
If you go to a meme art school like FullSail, and the art schools that advertise on television, or if you are trying to pass off vidya game design as art, you have no chance and are better off wasting your money on a humanities degree from a half decent state school
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Art school is only as good as the art you can produce. No one cares if you went to art school as long as you can produce quality art.
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>>39330406
Can you draw? Want to be art buddies and practice together?
I'd be drawing though since I don't want to spend money on paint until I can draw.
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>>39330829
Im actually learning how to draw..im not that good but im getting there,im more interested in painting tho probably gonna start painting on canvas next month
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Just teach yourself how to paint senpai
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>>39330900
So that's a no to being drawing buddies?
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>>39331291
Fuck it,lets be drawing buddies senpai
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>>39330406
Nah, are school is for queers. Just drink a few beers and watch The Joy of Painting reruns
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>>39330406
Yes, just go on youtube and watch art lessons
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>>39331348
How good are you? I'm not good at all. Are you using specific books or resources or just drawing?
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>>39331825
Recent drawing i did...i mostly just use youtube tutorials,like i said i genuinely hate drawing but i have to get good at it if i want to be a decent painter how long have you been sketching?
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>>39331964
That's better than me. How long have you been drawing?
Links to any youtube tuts?
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Might as well ask in this thread since it's somewhat relevant...

I am going to university for graphic design starting on monday. Being in debt or whatever isn't really going to be a problem for me, so is it going to be worth it? A lot of people talk shit about art-related degrees and say they're not worth it. I feel like art is the only thing I'm even decent at in life though.
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>>39332513
https://youtu.be/dJPbju_1jEA
This one helped a lot it's a really good tutorial just search around youtube and you'll find some good shit.also I've been drawing for like 3 months..you just gotta practice a lot man
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>>39332717
How many do you do per day/how many hours?
From life or photos or mix?
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>>39332707
>I feel like art is the only thing I'm even decent at in life
Anon...
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>>39332762
What?
I suck ass at everything. I hated every subject in school except for art.

What are you trying to tell me?
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>>39332734
I mostly draw anime characters lol..anyways i try to practice like 2 hours a day atleast and i mostly just rotate thru sketches
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>>39330447
>wrote a fanfiction about killing jews
That's literally what happened though, the jews hated it so much they started spreading the propaganda that it actually happened
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>>39332818
Post more dood.
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>>39332811
Honestly man a bunch of people here are going to tell you to pursue a stem major cause its easier to get a job..but i personally think that if art is something you love you should persue it
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>>39332818
I'm not the anon that you're talking with but I have to add this..
Dude don't draw anime characters if you want to get good at art. I wasted so much time drawing anime (and I got good at that) but it isn't useful at all and wont actually make you good at drawing. Ever since I stopped drawing faggot anime pictures I got so much better at drawing and painting.
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>>39332811
There's no future in art. It's a great hobby, but your chance of success is below zero.
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>>39332862
I can see that getting a normal art degree or whatever is useless but are you sure graphic design is also useless?
What if I actually try?

My family is making me go to school and won't let me be a neet (I still live with them) I'm really scared and I don't know what to do.
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How old are you OP? You might be able to take classes for free through scholarships and grants. Fill out a fafsa and apply to a college or community college. My college gives me $8000/yr for example.
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>>39330406

I'm going to preface this response by saying I don't know what I'm doing on 4chan. I don't like anime. I don't like tech. I don't like video games. Chances are you and I have much different personalities, and like much different things. So when you say "art" what does that mean? Are you drawing pictures of knights and cartoon characters on your folders, or are you talking about being an artist like Jeff Koons or Ai Weiwei?

With that said, I am a filmmaker and yes, I went to film school. No degree is useless. You could make 75K a year talking about softball if you wanted. What devalues these degrees are the people who get them thinking they're easy degrees, because lets face it, it is an easy degree to get. All that matters is your passion, dedication, and work ethic.

School isn't necessary for anything. But, it does offer a few things that might make it worth it in my experience.

>exposure
You will be exposed to a broad range of subjects which will expand your understanding of society and how the world operates. This will make you more knowledgeable and more empathetic.

>networking
Similar to exposure, but you will have the opportunity to interact with other creative types. And if you get in with the right group, the talented group, the students who stand out, you will create a community of creators who inspire and build each other up. Also, you get the opportunity to network with instructors who probably have access to the art world in ways you do not.

>experience
While you will be paying to go to school, you will get guided opportunities to build and create things to expand your portfolio. If you fuck up, you will get guidance. This isn't possible when you are creating by yourself. You don't get feedback from people who know what they're talking about, and you won't progress the same way. This will also let you build a body of work.

>a degree
Having a degree is far more impressive than not having a degree. whatever the subject
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>>39332884
Get a cs degree and get a comfy job with good pay then do art as a hobby until you can make enough from it.
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>>39332834
Work in progress kinda sucks but im practicing on drawing buildings and all that shit
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>>39333000

To expand. The only reason I am successful in this is because I am autistically obsessed with this stuff.

I can talk about frame rates, aperture, bokeh, shutterspeed, all that technical stuff for hours. It is my life. I work in the field, then come home and watch YouTube videos about the work I spent the whole day doing. It is my life, and I would die for this.

How do you know if college isn't for you?

If you're doing this for an easy degree. If you have awful work ethic. If you already know people in the art community i.e. your parents are artists, and you can sort of inherit the family business.
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>>39332847
Thanks for the advice senpai..im gonna get more serious about this art shit and your right drawing anime characters is pretty easy desu
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>>39332902
Im 18 and im actually planning on minoring in art since i know art school is a waste of money
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>>39332847
WHen you soppepd what did you start drawing?
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>>39333008
nigga computer science?? I said earlier I'm absolute ASS at anything that's not art. Especially math and science. That's like the last thing that I could do. Any other suggestions?
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>>39332862

>There's no future in art.

You are a fucking retard.

>>39332707

refer to

>>39333000
>>39333050

You can make a KILLING in graphic design. If you network, work your ass off, and are a likable person. Graphic design is everywhere. Look around your room, everything has some type of design element. Even the typeface on your computers logo was made by a designer. Design and marketing is everything.
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>>39333092
I didn't 'start' drawing non-anime. I always drew in various styles but I started drawing anime from middle school all the way to high school. My art teacher inspired me to start drawing normal humans instead of dumb cartoons. I like drawing surreal things.
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>>39333137
>You can make a KILLING in graphic design.
Thanks so much man I needed something like this to give me some hope. I am a robot, but I think I will be able to work my ass off I can also be a likeable person.
I really appreciate how some people actually explain things instead of give me a 'just do cs' like in
>>39333000
>>39333050
It was really helpful and interesting to read.
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>>39333187
Just do what you want senpai like the anon said above there's no bad degree..im studying a stem major and i absolutely hate it i wish i had done something art realted since thats my real passion
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>>39330406
100%, yes. It teaches you how to be a faggot, literally, more than anything.
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>>39333229
*related
Originalio
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>>39330406
People there are already passionate painters. Only go if you want easy pussy.
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>>39330406

Watch some Youtube tutorials. Watch some Bob Ross. Maybe go to one of those paint and sip classes a couple times a month.
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