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>entire family talking all the time about how people shouldn't

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>entire family talking all the time about how people shouldn't be allowed to profess Nazi beliefs or believe Nazi ideology because of the rallies
>going on and on about how it's a crime to even say it
>make a small comment about how it isn't illegal to hold an ideology and that this country upholds freedom of speech, didn't mean anything by it
>ARE YOU SYMPATHIZING WITH THE NAZIS WE CAN'T TOLERATE ANY FASCIST SPEECH IN THIS COUNTRY YOU'RE OFFENDING THE JEWS WHO DIED AND WERE BURNT TO DEATH I'LL HAVE YOU KNOW IT'S A WAR CRIME TO BE A NAZI YOU SHOULDN'T BE SO OPEN MINDED NO ONE WHO BELIEVES NAZI SPEAK HAS A RIGHT TO EXIST IN ANY COUNTRY IT'S NOT LEGAL TO THINK NAZIS ARE ALLOWED TO LIVE THEY DON'T HAVE FREEDOM OF SPEECH THEY AREN'T HUMAN I CAN'T BELIEVE MY NEPHEW IS A HITLER SYMPATHIZER YOU COULDN'T UNDERSTAND THE EMOTIONAL TRAUMA OF OUR JEWISH FRIENDS APOLOGIZE FOR SAYING SUCH FASCIST LIES
>this goes on for two days until I finally "agree" with them
>spend the rest of the day with an abnormal heart rate and feeling on edge
I-I was just trying to defend freedom of speech. Do all people react all emotional and illogical in response to mentions of nazis?
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>come to /r9k/ to escape /pol/ madness
>almost all threads I see on page 1 are /pol/ shit
fuck off >>>/pol/
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>>39167780
you're not being logical when you defend 'freedom of speech', you're just being a dumbass.
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>>39167780
You're an idiot for so many reasons.
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>>39167813
Don't get mad at me, I don't care about politics. I just made one tiny comment because I thought it was important.
>>39167819
>>39167829
Why? What did I do wrong?
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>>39167780
>Do all people react all emotional and illogical in response to mentions of nazis?
Yes, they've been trained to do that.

Luckily my great-grandfather maintained that we fought on the wrong side of WW2 until the day he died, so my family isn't quite that bad.

Next time they bring it up just ask them if the "Nazis" at the rally have any views that your nation's founders would not have agreed with.
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>>39167780
I agree with you anon. I'm no nazi myself, and I don't even associate within a 12,000 mile radius of it. Just because I defend the fucking constitution and people's rights doesn't mean I'm them, fucking retarded normies.
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>>39167780
My grandma asked her dad if he had any regrets in his life. The last thing my great grandfather told us all before he died was this.

>If I had known how the US would have turned out after world war 2....I have would fought alongside the nazis instead."

He died right after saying that. Like 1 second later.
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>>39167813
It's not that pol is leaking, it's that pol is now the normie standard. Welcome to a new abstract kind of hell my friend.
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>>39167838
>I don't care about politics

defending the right for nazis to spread their propaganda and radicalize people is political, senpai.
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You should take this to /pol/ but that board is overloaded with bait and larders so your thread wouldn't stand a chance
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>>39167893
I wasn't defending them, just correcting something someone said about thought crimes. I'm not politically aligned.
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>>39167893
If you unironically call people nazis when not referring to past ww2 germany you're retarded and the reason this shit keeps gaining momentum.
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>>39167923

That's why you're a dumbass. You understand nothing of context, or perspective.

That's dumbassery on two levels.
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>>39167952
Context doesn't apply to freedom of speech, that;s why it's free.
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>>39167952
Oh fuck off he has every right to voice his opinion. Many centerists and even some on the left would agree that no matter how awful it is people should be able to say whatever they feel like. Not even a /pol/tard but if people said that around me I'd have said the same thing.
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>>39167961
Context applies to everything. There is nothing absolute (hurr paradox).

>>39167948
>its your fault people are nazis!

>>39167987
By calling him a dumbass and a nazi, I am restricting his freedom of speech? Oh, I would if I could, but I can't, so I am resorting to name calling.
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It's pointless to try and communicate with fedoras. Whether it's the non-existence of god or the existence of thought crimes, they cling desperately to their emotions and won't hear anything else. Either remain silent or make sure your dick is overflowing because all that can happen is a peeing race. Later agreeing with them like you did when earlier you said you are a nazi and kkk death to niggers asians should be burned on a cross makes you appear weak and inconsistent to them. They win because you agreed with them, but you are always a fascist in their eyes because you committed the unforgivable sin. They are frail creatures, don't try to wriggle your way out of it based on sublte and empty nuances, like muh free speech. Free speech is destruction of bad statues and revising unfortunate history. By speaking against this you are denying them basic human dignity and rights.
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>>39168009
You're free to say whatever you want, and we're free to call you a retard or an asshole for it. No stopped you from saying anything, they just said that you were being retarded.
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>>39167875
The fuck is pol? like polly want a cracker? Do you mean /pol/?
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>>39168032
No he means /pol
:^)
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>>39168009
Nazis were members of the national socialist party of Germany from the 1930s to 1945. Calling people who disagree with you in your countries immigration party, many of whom are moderate or centrist, and most of whom hate socialism, nazis makes you retarded and legitamitely pushes people away from your side because so many wake up to how fucking retarded you people are
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>>39168017
I'm pretty much an anarcho capitalist though, and I don't affiliate myself with any religions or potential higher beings or deities. They're more religious than I am. I've experienced my freedom of speech being trampled on and I know how important it is. If nothing else, people should be allowed to speak freely, even if you hate someones guts and plan to kill them there's no reason not to let them speak unless you fear their ideas are better than yours.
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Never show your political beliefs to normies.
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>>39167842
>Next time they bring it up just ask them if the "Nazis" at the rally have any views that your nation's founders would not have agreed with.
FUCKING THIS
They're not saying anything that would have been particularly controversial even 50 years ago.
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It's not illegal to be a Nazi in America. It's just morally wrong. Or, even if you're a nihilist, it means you've joined with an enemy our ancestors fought and died to defeat.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cofmPUgUthU
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>>39168110
>Or, even if you're a nihilist, it means you've joined with an enemy our ancestors fought and died to defeat
You did not think this through, did you?
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>>39168009
>>39167952
You're literally arguing against the supreme court of the united states of america and the constitution.
Time and time again, the supreme court has defended free speech even in the case of hate speech. Look up National Socialist Party of America vs. Village of Skokie, Snyder vs. Phelps or the Matal vs. Tam case a few months ago. If you say that Free speech is conditional, then it is not free speech whatsoever, it's permitted speech. If you only have "FREE SPEECH" for speech that would never be censored anyway, what the fuck is it even? If you give the government the power to shut down free citizens for their speech, they will eventually use it against people other than the intended first target.

AMERICAN FREE SPEECH HAS NO 'CONTEXT'. The only thing not covered is actual, honest to god incitement - no, this doesn't mean 'mean words what make people hate muh minorities, it'll lead to violence later waaah'.

Anyone who thinks that Free Speech is somehow conditional should just move to literally any other shitty country in the world that treats it's residents as subjects instead of citizens.
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>>39168110
Yeah I don't give a shit what our troops were ordered to do 70 plus years ago. Lets not immortalize every decision made by the government just because it happened a long time ago.
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https://youtu.be/ZI4xMd497OI

Hmm...
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>>39168110
No, I don't feel bad for the morals and the men who died for them. No one on my direct family fought in WW2 anyway so I have absolutely no shits to give about those gullible faggots from 75 years ago
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>>39168094
bad goy, hate speech is not free speech. the constitution should be ammended to make spouting right wing ideas illegal.
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>>39168145
That doesn't mean it cant be wrong, silly. Now I just feel like tugging on your cheek.

>>39168026
Well, i wish you weren't. My point was that I am not preventing anyone, I am merely trying to.

>>39168072
moderates are senile nazis. those people are already there, what am I pushing?


Dumbassery of epic proportions
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>>39168231
Trying to force people to only think certain ways through thought policing and encouraging people and the government to assault people is wrong.

Authoritarianism in any form is fucking garbage and you modern bootlicking statists are literally cheering in martial law.
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>>39167780
>ARE YOU SYMPATHIZING WITH THE NAZIS WE CAN'T TOLERATE ANY FASCIST SPEECH IN THIS COUNTRY YOU'RE OFFENDING THE JEWS WHO DIED...
"Not an argument"
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>>39168110
>Or, even if you're a nihilist, it means you've joined with an enemy our ancestors fought and died to defeat.

What hasn't the US fought against? They've fought Commies, Islamist, Atheist, Blacks, Browns, Asians, Whites etc...
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>>39167780
You can't break through years of propaganda with "f-freedom of speech"
I
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>>39168256
Authority in an abstract would be wrong, yes. But we are not at that point, senpai. We need to do everything in our power to curb the vitriol and hate that is about. Even if we must be despicable.

As long as there are those that hunger for war, there will be war. Peace will only come when all will it. We cannot achieve it by ourselves.
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>>39167872
I don't believe this, but I believe it.
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>Concede to them like a beta bitch.
You fucked up mayne.
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>>39168371
I don't give a shit about peace. I want freedom, above all else. Tyranny and peace likely go hand in hand, I want none of either. I don't live to be "safe" or "comfortable", I live to be free.
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>>39168371
That's collectivist bullshit and whether you realize it or not you're going the exact same route as people who engaged in the Cultural Revolution started by Mao Zedong.

The ends don't justify the means here, killing and imprisoning people who you disgree with, even for good reason, still makes you a murderer and a tyrant-lover.

Disagree with and insult Nazis or people who go to Church or vote R all you want, but advocating for state-sponsored wrongthink punishing makes you a legitimate fascist supporter.
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>>39167780

Replaces the nazis with Muslims.
Now, will you defend them when your parents are talking about them?
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>>39168447
Yeah, why not? They can say whatever they want until they start trying to blow people up.
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This sort of bullshit of the leftist cunts proves two things for me: They are not one bit different in their militancy from their own mental image of the "nazis".
And by noticing that you can only conclude: Hitler did indeed do nothing wrong.
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>>39168371
>he has literally the same goal and mentality of the nazis he accused everyone else of being
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>>39168461

What happen if they blow up people?
Should they be treated differently.

Just like how the guy ran over the protesters.
Should that group be treated differently?
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>>39168447
Not OP, but I would, Muslims are allowed to to advocate their shitty, violent, backwards religion all they want, and people are allowed to advocate against it.

Shitty /pol/ faggots who want the government's boot on their boogeymen's neck are just as garbage as the shitlicking liberal dicksleeves who want the government's boot on their boogeyman's neck.

The government shouldn't even be allowed to have boots, and any shitbird who advocates for increased government power doesn't realize the goverment is going to stamp their new cleats on some shitbird neck next once they get them.
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>>39168480
People who commit crimes and those who aid them shall be punished according to the united states justice system, regardless of race or creed.

The problem these days is the Media focusing on some crimes to increase awareness for partisan political reasons while ignoring others. People wishing for the newest spree shooter or car driver or bomber to be a certain color are disgusting failures of humanity.

I want to strangle anyone who says "I hope it's white boy!" or "Just wait until it's a muslim and we'll show them!"
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Calling them nazis is propaganda meant to conflate conservatives with a universally hated group that people have kneejerk emotional responses to because muh 6 billion jews.
The problem is the fucking retard LARPers at those rallies really did do nazi hand signs and carry nazi flags. Why? I don't know. They are shooting themselves in the foot something fierce.

At least my parents are sane enough to see that antifa is a literal terrorist group taking advantage of a bad situation. Watching some of my old liberal friends on normiebook compare literal commies to allied soldiers is headache level embarrassing. If an allied soldier knew his grandson would grow up to be a literal commie, he would have put his rifle in his own mouth on the beach of Normandy.
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>>39168521
>>39168487

Nice, these are reasonable.
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>speaking with normies in any way about politics/religion

How hard is it to just pull a "Aha I don't know to be honest", these people aren't interested in having discussions and are like a brick wall to talk to

Just leave a neutral or good impression and call it a day
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>>39168480
The group didn't run over protesters, one guy did and he should be punished as an individual, like any other criminal.
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>>39167780
It's much better to let them speak and humiliate them via attacking their ideas. Silencing them makes them the counterculture. Letting them be heard reveals their foolishness.
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>>39168548
It was a tiny lapse of judgment which I thought would result in nothing bad.
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>>39168548
>>39168595
It's not our fault that the new norm these days is to disown anyone who you disagree with on any level in politics.

In my experience, being neutral will only defend you for so long. Look at how, even now, both radical leftists and far right fags post shitty memes and arguments shitting all over "centrists".

I'm lucky me and my friends are old and sane enough to not disavow each other because we're not on the same political wavelength. But for most people, that's not the case anymore. And it'll just get worse, at this rate.

>>39168582
This. This, one thousand times. The only way you'll shut them up completely is by creating the most unbearably authotarian big-brother state nightmare and then you've got what you fear anyway.

The only sensible solution is to allow those with shitty belief systems to air them, and then tell them how fucking mindbendingly stupid their ideas are. But the second you start whining to the government and telling them to shut up the mean folks, you're just asking to be sent to political re-education camps in 20 years.

I swear to fucking god, i'm starting to believe that all this shit is intentional, coerced racebaiting and paid LARPing to give the government an excuse to lace up their shiny new jackboots while being cheered in by brainlets on twitter and facebook for saving them from 'muh ebil nazzis' or 'muh ebil muzzies'.
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>>39168619
The internet has radicalized people. Those with the most extreme opinions are allowed to publicly air them, and they get a lot of idiots to listen to them. Next thing you know you go to normiebook and your idiot liberal friends from college are reposting twitter memes comparing a recent political event to Star Wars/Harry Potter and shouting down anyone who dares say that maybe it's not as black and white as they think.
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>>39168017
prove me that god exists
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>>39168685
I can't, but the possibility that perhaps even multiple gods and dimensions of all sorts exist is something you would be stupid to discard. It would be just as stupid to assume their existence justifies your obedience to them though.
not him by the way
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>>39167780
No point conversing with anyone who is emotional or uses nazi and fascist as synonymous. There is no point it is all propaganda. Its like meme speak but they believe its true. That is why erasing and twisting history is a tactic. Nationalists lost and liberals are just here for a few more years until they will all be killed by NWO. You are living in a fascist dystopia being established, genociding and destroying the remainings of the old world.
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>>39168404
Cannot have freedom without peace, snepu. They are nigh synonyms.

>>39168409
>>39168465

Who is the nazi now?
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>>39168743
>Cannot have freedom without peace
I don't think freedom means what you think it means.
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>>39168743
You are, fucking dipshit. Only collectivist authotarian morons believe that by killing anyone who disagrees creates peace. Hey, guess what, fuckwit. Nazi Germany was at peace from 1932 to 1939. Did that make Pre-War Nazi Germany Free?

Seriously fuck off. I swear to god you'd suck Pol Pot's dick if waved it in your face and said he'd kill the nazis for you.
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>>39168710
If you truly accept the possibility that they could be real then you're accepting the possibility that they could have interacted with us at one point and that they could indeed have their own rules and demands we follow and that some of man's religions could be true. You can't deny this possibility, however unlikely you find it, if you're a true agnostic
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>>39167780
>Claims to defend freedom of speech.
>Autistically screeches about how Nazis are worse than Satan
>Can agree that NatSocs as an ideoligy is greedy, stupid, and violent ideoligy
>mf of your hypocracy
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>>39168776
Yeah, sure, I can't deny anything I have no clear answer to. That doesn't mean I hold faith in one answer or another.
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>>39168754
You cannot be free while there is war, senpai. Freedom, I would say, is the last step in peace.

>>39168769
Ironic, isnt it? Ah, how the turn tables
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>>39168785
Do you think the Kamen Rider poster is OP?
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>>39168710
>but the possibility that perhaps even multiple gods and dimensions of all sorts exist is something you would be stupid to discard
the possibility of multiple gods existing is as big as a possibility that there's nazi dragon who spews diarrhea and talks in arabic since there's no proof for either of them
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>>39168874
>You cannot be free while there is war, senpai. Freedom, I would say, is the last step in peace.
You have absolutely no idea what freedom is.
>>39168888
Why does it matter either way? You're a cuck if you think they matter to you or are important. You're just a socially conditioned retard if you think the existence of authority and their demand that you obey their laws or follow them in any way means you should inherently do so. Do gods exist? I don't have a clue, but I don't really care. It doesn't concern me, as I clearly don't concern them. Classifying someone as "god" is retarded anyway because it assumes someone has some special inherent status and that by their existence they are entitled to your respect. There are no "gods", just very entitled assholes who may or may not exist but who are in no way consequential to a man who truly values hos freedom.
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>>39168874
Oh, so you're shitposting, then. Gotta love the faux-intellectual garbage phrases that don't actually mean anything. Keep it up, I guess you're still reeling in fish, but i'll just not respond to you anymore.

>>39168785
Hey, cockbreath. I ain't the OP. I don't roll over at the first sight of opposition from anyone, much less my family. I don't have any hypocrisy in my statements in this thread
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tl;dr
To worry about whether gods exist means you still see them as important and are pretty much still worshiping them and attributing glory to them, whether they exist or not. No different from religionfaggotry and it's glorification and cocksucking of gods, you're just afraid of the gods cock instead.
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I have this sneaking suspicion we aren't hearing the full story here given OP depicts this story as him being a moderate voice of reason and the people he was talking to going into all caps rants at the slightest provocation.
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Also

>this goes on for two days until I finally "agree" with them

Lmao how much of a bitch are you? Freedom of speech is one of the easier things to defend especially if the argument against it is stopping Nazis, given Nazis were stopped BY people WITH relative freedom of speech when the Nazis did NOT have freedom of speech.

If you don't have enough of a spine to stick by your guns don't bother giving your opinion in the first place lmao.
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>>39167780

umm...no sweetie, hate speech isn't free speech. If hate speech isn't preemptively shut down with violence we may lose our American freedoms.
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>>39168959
Garbage isn't interesting senpai
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Like here's how you defend freedom of speech vs EBIN BUT THE NAZIS AND THE 6 GORRILION!

>Nazis shut down the free press sympathetic towards the jews

>Nazis made their own films to push anti-semetic propaganda

>Nazis burnt books sympathetic towards the Jews

>Nazis used violent oppression and brownshirts to oppress free speech

>Nazis were more afraid of free speech than their critics in their time because in an environment with free speech Nazism is unsustainable because it's obviously wrong

Lmao so fucking hard how shit are you at arguing? Lol what kind of cuck backs down? Those aren't even strong arguments against free speech.
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>>39169003
I take great care not to be anything but politically neutral and state facts about laws or question people when they state something incorrectly. That's the only reason I'm still getting along with these people, because they ended up convinced I'd "seen the light" and was considering their ideas. They seemed worried I was "misguided" and freaked out because I continued to state that it wasn't illegal to maintain a certain ideology or talk with other people about it, and that I thought it was important to maintain freedom of speech no matter what. They also seemed to think being a "neo-nazi" made you illegal and a war criminal. I probably said less than a dozen sentences, they spent an entire day trying to convince me I was wrong. They started yelling and eventually dropped it because I was unresponsive.
>>39169022
Yeah, the second day they brought it up again first thing because they were still pissed and I responded by asking if it wasn't fascist of them to wish to silence people. That's when they really lost it for over 4 hours and I had to diffuse the situation by asking some hypotheticals about free speech in a neutral tone and convinced them I'd understood their point. Obviously I understand their words and what they mean and intend, doesn't mean I agree with them though.

If you're doubtful as to my families nature and whether they would act like that, it might help to know that they live in Portland.
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>>39169118
Fuck I hate reading all that autistic shit I wrote. What was my purpose in doing this.
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>>39169148
Processing your thoughts? Honestly though

#1 - I have never met a single person that talks like the people you described in the OP talk. You seem to be self-victimising and putting yourself in an unjustly good light and the people you're arguing with in an unjustly bad light. I don't even have to know what was actually said to smell the bullshit from a mile away, if you want to get good at arguing, argue against your opponents best points and portray them as positively as possible.

#2 - If the people you talk to are going to get emotional and argumentative when you contradict your politics, maybe the best decision is to not get into political debates with them. I relish getting into arguments, I'm an argumentative person, but others find it incredibly draining, and people will hate you if you are frequently the one common element in drama happening where you live, regardless of the righteousness of your position. There are alternatives to just going along with what others say and arguing, like saying that you simply don't want to talk about politics when people bring it up.

#3 - if you're as stubborn as political as me however, if you do get into a political debate with somebody, follow though. You basically just told us you lied and said that other people were right when they weren't just to get them to shut up. How can a guy that can't stand up for his own beliefs stand up for anybody elses beliefs, which is the essence of standing up for free speech?
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>>39169249
I've always avoided political talk for this exact reason, I thought a little comment on free speech would be a "safe" thing to interject because I felt awkward sitting there all quiet as they talked. I'm not an honest person, if I was I'd be lynched by now. I always keep quiet about stuff because I want to be left alone and the only way out was to back off. I don't want fucking arguments, I want to be left alone. Yeah, I'm a coward and a loser, laugh all you want. I didn't want to fight it at that moment, because it was just talk.
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>>39169105
They have the freedom to say they want to do that without actually doing it. It's like having the freedom to say and plan your assassination of some political figure but not doing it. It's alright.
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>>39167780

you can kill your own traitor parents when the war finally comes, it will be white people with values against white cucks and their shit skin pets (their pets will turn on them)
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>>39169338
No thanks, if it ever does come to that I'm getting the fuck away from other people.
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>>39168888
>the possibility is the same because there's no proof for either

I'm not even going to le hat joke you but you're legitimately retarded. That statement makes no sense what so ever and is completely false and illogical. You have no proof I own a cat and you also have no proof I own and a killer whale. That doesn't mean they're both equally likely.
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Hang in there. The normalfags will soon perish, peace and prosperity will return to our once-glorious land.
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>>39167829
>None of which I can list here
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>>39167847
>Lawful good shitheads mad because you're only lawful neutral
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>>39167780
Your're family are normie scum. Leave them
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>>39167875
Tfw the world is pol 2.0
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>>39167819
There is literally nothing wrong with defending constitutional rights
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>everyone misuses the word fascism for big scary authoritarian regime that kills everyone
>fascism is actually relatively pacifist and progressive
no one ever reads the fascist manifesto
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People have it so ingrained into them to hate nazis, and yet the communists who are even worse are somehow not so universally hated. The world is fucked. Just destroy earth desu, this twisted game needs to be reset.
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>>39167780
Your comment timing was pathetic. Kill yourself you unaware faggot.
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>>39170872
Sounds like a nerve was somehow struck
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>>39170927
Or OP's just really pathetic. I have no feelings about it either way.
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>>39167780
>"Freedom of speech"
You are fucking annoying and i think we should kill you and your family. Thats my ideology.
These teenie alt-right fucks should go away. Just like the liberals. The whole United states is cancerous.
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At least you now know how it feels to post on 4chan while forgetting to advertise yourself as a manic depressive, suicidal 27 year old white male virgin with extremely right-leaning views. Been here ten years and triggering anons hasn't changed a bit.

Sounds like you got a dose of what it's like to not be a racist, anti-semitic xenophobe on this fuckhole of a website, OP. Perspective is a wonderful thing. I learned that intellectual discussion here is fucking retarded. 4chan has normies and uneducated, racist idiots in even more obtrusive numbers than in my day-to-days, at least. This place doesn't deserve my mind unfiltered, which is exactly how I feel about the people I know in the real world. Do the same, OP. Drop the faith in human ingenuity. Everyone is equally a piece of shit that you should only use/access sparingly.
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>>39170628
>fascism is actually relatively pacifist
Yeah bullshit. Fascism is closely tied to militarism because it's essentially people going "Hey, you remember how society worked during WWI and how we mobilised every citizen and business towards a common cause and suppressed people working against the common good? Why don't we operate like that, all the time?"

Fascists in practice were very violent. I reject the idea that even in theory they were not very violent. They were violent towards their own people through especially heavy handed use of violent coercion, and especially heavy handed towards outsiders. They used a fucking weapon as a symbol of fascism.
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>>39170987
>hurr durr opinions should be illegal
Get into the helicopter, Ivan
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let's stop for a second and think that there are people browsing here who legitimately think hitler would shave jew's heads just to gas them right after
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>be black
>family is racists as fuck
>shit talks indians
>shit talk asians
>constantly making jokes about jews and how bad they are

Feels good
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>>39171362
Hitler shaved the jews heads to reduce the smell. Burning hair is terrible. Plus evidence would be leftover.
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>>39167780
People follow trends. They don't think for themselves. They do what gets them accepted. 99% of the masses have no idea what Hitler was actually doing besides putting Jews to physical labor (they believe he was killing jews Lmao)
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>>39167780
>be black
>Consider myself center right
>Entire household left wing and believes the Klan is out to get blacks still

The African American community is doomed
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>>39171399
yes so they burned about 8 thousand bodies a day (each one taking about 2 hours)
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>>39167780
Considering your parents are probably baby boomers, yes. They got the full NAZIS ARE BAD JEWS ARE THE CHOSEN dose head on.
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>>39168110
>It's not illegal to be a Nazi in America. It's just morally wrong
Well, you can be arrested for denying the holocaust.
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>>39167780
gotta fit in, amiright? it's not your fault man, i'm with you. I'm no nazi but i want to defend the constitution. But doing the right thing and being popular/liked are completely different.

from robert green's 48 laws of power, the Law 24: Play the Perfect Courtier explains that even if you disagree with your surroundings, you should not expose your polarizing views so you can fit in. Once you are respected, then you can slowly change their views detail by detail. take it slow if you really want to change their mind, play the long game
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>>39167813
>>39167819
>>39167829
Samefag. Oregano pasta
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>>39167780
>making any sort of comment at
should have just remained quiet
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>live in Eastern Europe
>if you support communism in public anyone over the age of 40 will punch you right in the mouth
>being a nazi is socially acceptable but denying the holocaust isn't
>muh 6 gorillion feels
Just don't get political with family mate, unless they are up to talk about it without throwing shitfits. There's no particular need to talk about politics in a family either way.
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>>39168145
You're acting like we don't have laws against obscenity and child porn
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>>39173517
don't forget about the 10 million polacks, chuju
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>>39173979
what does obscenity and child porn have to do with free speech?
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>>39173517
>being a nazi is socially acceptable

fuck no it isn't, go back to /pol/
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>>39168521
>>39168487
good insight
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>>39174237
What do you think? Ever hear of New York v Ferber, Osborne v Ohio or Miller v California? The Supreme Court has shit on the first amendment plenty of times, but we let them because pedophiles are even less popular than Nazis.
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>>39167780
>America finally waking up and seeing bs liberal ideology for what it really is

I hope you like gulags anon.
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>>39171452
Join the smart white guys who don't like the CIA.
They tend to be more sympathetic towards your communities because of the drug smuggling done to you guys back in the 80's.
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>>39174430
if a guy wants to talk about fucking an 8 year olds taut little butt hole then by all means let him. When he follows through though, tie him up and torture him to death, please. If a person wants talk about to going streaking and getting shit housed in the street, let him talk all day. When he does it though, cart him off to jail.

I dont give a fuck what a person wants to talk about, in fact the ability to talk about any idea we want is one of my favorite parts about being an american.

I guess my point is the first amendment is probably the most important amendment, and anytime it is disregarded or watered down it should be seen as an appalling failure of our justice system
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>>39174546
Americans have been arrested for watching videos, drawing pictures, taking photographs and even writing stories. The first amendment has always been a farce, but people don't complain because injustice only targets the least popular members of society. Today it's pedophiles, before that it was terrorists, before that it was communists and before that it was antipatriots. Nazis and racists are probably next.
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>>39167893
>I believe people's freedom of speech shouldn't be censored = KILL ALL JEWS

You are a special kind of retarded, aren't you?
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We cannot let a minority of people, and it's, that's what it is, it is a minority of people, hold a viewpoint that terrorizes the majority of people.
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>>39167780
Freedom isn't free, you know.
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>>39171392
why are you looking at white anime girls?

not allowed
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>>39173979
No i'm not. My political ideals and defense of free speech is perfectly congruent, even if free speech isn't perfect and has shitty caveats like incitement and obscenity laws.

I don't believe thought crimes should exist. But just because child pornography laws exist doesn't mean my defense of free speech is invalid - just because something is flawed doesn't mean we should just allow people to ruin it further.

It's easier to defend rights than take them back.
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>>39169031
low quality bate
originigger
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>>39171017
Pacifism through defensive militarism
read the book or shut up
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>>39167780
Fuck off contrarian piece of shit. Go back to pol cuck
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>sharing your political opinion
>sharing your political opinion with the general populace that are more involved with asinine shit and only regurgitate what the person on the television says.

listen here anon, listen to this wisdom.
never share an opinion (political or not), it causes more issues and honestly it's an unnecessary conversation to have.
not because it's wrong per say, but just because it won't do you yourself any good.

this is why political talks and video game flame wars are dumb.
and why the time for talk is over, kill all your political enemies if you want any change
Fascism soon
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>>39171017
>suppressed people working against the common good
Why would anyone work against the common good? That common good was protecting your fucking country from destruction and contributing to the effort to annihilate your enemies.

If only we had a common enemy today. A common enemy that isn't white people.
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I never talk politics with my family for that reason, they're a bunch of super lefty christfags who think antifa are some kind of heroes. I have a sonnenrad flag in my room but none of them understand what it means.
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>>39176021
Every fucking offensive country says they're merely acting in their own defense. That's how it works. You defend yourself until you own the world.
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>>39177229
The only offensive thing they believe in is reclaiming lost land, which is exactly what Hitler was doing
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I agree with OP

I pretty liberal, in fact I vote for my countries green party, but I believe the naziboos should have a right to larp in public like the rest of us
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