If communism was implemented properly and governed by a non greed

It would be same shit under a different label.

We good.

Government needs to fix homelessness though. I'm seeing too many NORMIES with homeless signs it's disturbing.

Wasn't Russia under Lenin good?

Regardless, Mutualism is the real red pill, communism is rape and so is capitalism

>>38981444
Russia under Lenin lead to people not knowing how much of anything they should produce and was so inefficient people had to literally go into the wild and become hunter gatherers to survive and there were signs telling people not to each their children's corpses, there's even a documented case of a couple kidnapping children for food.

>>38981916
god damn, Russia has China levels of poverty. that's what happens when your people are stretched out on a huge landmass.

Any government that doesn't take things like greed into account will fail.

Like yes communism could work if it was done exactly to the word. the problem is that that is virtually impossible hence why communism doesn't work.

>>38980674
>If communism was implemented properly and governed by a non greed filled government, would it work?

No, because the population would still be driven by greed

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>>38980674
>If communism was implemented properly
>non greed filled government

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>>38982016
>Greed
>Ideal communism
Choose one

>>38980674
Maybe for a small, tight-nit hunter gatherer society.

>>38980674
>If communism was implemented properly
thats a big "if", buddy
>governed by a non greed filled government
you lost me there

>>38980674
>non greed filled government

if we're supposing a theoretical government where the leadership is absolutely and forever responsible, generous, compassionate and thoughtful, make them a fucking aristocracy. it's because we don't have those guarantees in real life that governance is hard to manage, or that society requires robust, self-correcting, accountability-minded systems at all.

>>38980674
For Communism to be a viable option it would have to be run by an AI administration and management software, with Communism you're basically giving all the power for the state and hoping for the best
Absolute power attracts a lot of manipulative psychopaths who are good at bending the people to their will with underhanded and misguiding means
Even if initially it would be planted with non greed filled government those people will need to be replaced in time due to them becoming senile or dying, when that happens there will be bunch of psychos ready to pounce at the opportunity to rule with absolute power
Communism failed at basic level, the founding idea that state has absolute power over the funds and resources sucks ass without AI that cannot be corrupted
Even in that case it would not survive the test of time and would not be able to adapt with time because of AI
If you allow changes to be made into the AI's laws and functions it would leave the system open for one neckbeard to ruin for shits and giggles
In conclusion, no Communism was a shit idea and it won't work, gut it for good parts and figure out a better system with other gutted parts from other systems of government
If you want to beat Capitalism you need to figure out what they did right and what they blew, implement that parts that work really well, figure out where you can find parts to replace the blown parts
After that it is just seeing if people will go for it, even if you would make a system that is near perfect and would create an utopia for a period of time you must take into consideration how it would work if other countries refuse to adopt it
And it needs to be adaptable for the perceived changes in the future, that is why Capitalism is kind of wobbly now the system allows rich to fuck around with way too much money/power
When Capitalism was created no one could have imagined the amount of money the top dogs were to rack up and now we are paying the price for their lack of foresight

Utopia requires utopians. If you don't have people who have been educated with a new set of fundamental ideas of how to associate with each other from how our current society works then you'll never be able to create a perfect societal system. Growing communal trust through free association at a basic level is the first step towards a moral society.

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Everything depends on something

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No, Central planning is inefficient. Even if USSR cucks weren't real cuckmunism they were still centrally planned and went bankrupt trying to compete with free markets. Leftpol tankie cucks always fellate North Korea and Stalin, The truth is they will always label themselves as communists because it's the edgiest thing that is socially acceptable with wealthy yuppie college turds and they can always say it has good intentions when called out upon it's failure.

>>38980674
Even if the government in question was ideal, I don't think it would work. There's always going to be leeches who work around having to do their fair share

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No. Fundamentally, communism cannot work without the state grossly attacking the NAP.

>>38983350
you watch Sargon of Akkad, huh

>>38982097
youre making no sense retard

>>38983235
can you blackout all the nigger countries so we see the actual relevant data

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>>38983424
No I never watched that alt-lite cuck, but it's funny that is all a leftpol cuck could muster up as a response.

You can tell somebody is a mental midget when they try to belabour your point.

>>38982398
GUNS OF THE PATRIOTS THE MEMES DNA OF THE SOUL

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>>38983350
>>38983493
How many times do you need to say cuck, my man?

>>38983235
This graph is bullshit and misleading.

>>38983350
Literally every country on the planet is centrally planned.

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>>38980674
>a non greed filled government
i dont think you understand what the word "government" means

>>38980674
Stalin did nothing wrong, kulaks deserved.

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>le greed is bad meme xxDD

Fuck off. Greed is objectively a good and moral thing. It is both natural and morally correct for human beings to want to keep the money, resources and status they have earned.

If you're too much of a brainlet/manlet to take advantage of the opportunities presented by free market capitalism, then you deserve every failure you get in life. Society should not be structured like some kind of charity whereby every human being has the right to things just by way of existing. You have to work and sometimes fight for what you feel you deserve. If you are unwilling to do that, you deserve to get cucked by society.

Put up or shut up. I have yet to meet someone of either left or right who argues for a bigger state and isn't either a total failure in life or a brainlet moralfag.

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>>38983457
Then please explain me how can greed exist without money, private property or social classes

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>>38984933
Secret photo of Anon seconds before writing this post