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>one chance in life >born in the United fucking kingdom

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>one chance in life
>born in the United fucking kingdom
>terrible weather
>ugly architecture
>disgusting culture
>ugly inbred people
>small houses and gardens on a cramped tiny island filled

Never stood a fucking chance. I get so fucking envious when I see a big American house with 4 bedrooms, at least two bathrooms and a big garden with grass and trees. A good 300k house in America would be at last 1 million in the UK.
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>>38913798
Why not move to the U.S?
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>>38913798
the us seems like a way shittier place than europe desu
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>>38913825
As long as you don't live near niggers or spics it's pretty nice.
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>>38913816
Yeah let me just simply move to the US.
You fucking retard do you know how much it takes to move there. The entire world wants to move to the US.
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>>38913825
>the us seems like a way shittier place than europe desu
Europe, yeah
UK, no

UK is a legitimate shithole
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>>38913798
t. salty Brit who fucked up his GCSE's blames his country for all his problems

I moved to Germany when I was 17 desu, England is ugly as fuck compared to here
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Dude America is a fucking shithole, move to Amsterdam or Canada or Ireland or somewhere cool with culture.
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>>38913798
I always imagined England to look just a bit better, if not much better than that. That looks awful. Reminds me of commie blocks.

I always imagined little homes, some nice wide fields and forests, little neighborhoods and comfy towns.


Is there a place like that?
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>>38913915

There are a metric fuckton of places like that.
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>>38913937
In England?


Comment
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>>38913856
>The entire world wants to move to the US.
Nope
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>>38913915
>I always imagined little homes, some nice wide fields and forests, little neighborhoods and comfy towns.

These places exist and probably actually comprise most of the country's land mass. Problem is they're inhabited solely by insufferable upper middle class cunts.
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>>38913887
t. my parents moved to Germany and brought me
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>>38913903
Ireland is basically the UK unless you live solitary out west
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>>38913798
The grass is always greener on the other side, anon; America is kinda shit too.


>>38913843
>As long as you don't live near niggers or spics it's pretty nice.

That's getting more and more difficult with each passing year.
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>>38914026
>That's getting more and more difficult with each passing year.
True, but hopefully most of the illegals will be gone at least with Trump in charge.
After that we'll have to clean up the rest ourselves when the time comes.
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>That vast, varied geography
>Massive forest parks that are quarter and half the size of England and Ireland
>you will never go on summer camps as a kid in the U.S
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>>38913903
>Canada
>cool with culture

Canada is just a multi-culti holding cell.
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>>38913798
You didn't even list everything, OP.

>Every election is a choice between red or blue cucks
>Rampant censorship, every personal freedom rapidly deteriorating
>Have to be born into the ancient rich feudal class with double barreled surnames to have any chance in life
>TV licensing still exists
>Will soon have to buy porn license to have a wank
>Can't tweet bad things about Mooslims or you'll get investigated by ER MAJESTY'S POLIS
>Can't even buy a gun to kill yourself with

Why the fuck couldn't I be born in the US or Canada or Australia or literally any Anglo country but this fucking cucked island.
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>>38913798
is it really that bad in the U.K.? I always thought it was a fancier, cleaner, and less immigrant infested version of the us ? Maybe you just live in a shit area.
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That's what happens when you're born poor/working class. Everywhere has it's good and bad parts. My childhood was idyllic. My old house is currently up for sale at 250,000. Cost us way less. 5 large beds 3 bath. Ovean views.

It's not Britain's fault. It's yours for living in a shithole part and being a poorfag
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I dunno mange wales is pretty cool.
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>>38914181
>Less immigrant infested
m8 London is majority foreigner.
>Clean
no
>Fancier
stereotype, every country has its upper class, but the UK and its culture is actually grotty as fuck.
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>>38913915
tfw you live in the Lake District
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>>38913798
You're a bloody traitor lad
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>>38913798
When I see English people disparaging the US an its citizens; it's always left me with the impression that the UK was a free and vibrant country full of thin and healthy individuals who are intelligent and culturally sophisticated. Is that not the case?
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>>38914215
Then move out of London you bellend
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>>38914181
You've been completely lied to
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>>38914265
It is the case if you live in certain areas, as with any country.
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>>38914215
You could literally go a few miles outside London and have a comfy life in the green belt.
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Scotland's pretty cool still. I can go days without seeing a nigger. Never have to interact with them either. Places are what you make of them. I quite fancy moving to the Yorkshire dales. Personally i never liked the look of American houses. But I tend to like old buildings with history myself.
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>>38914215

>London
>Any major city in the UK

theres your problem. Also I can't fucking imagine living in a grotty shithole like the OP pic ever again. I lived in Coventry for 11 years and it was an absolute hole

Move to devon. No pakis, no niggers, no muslims

Best thing I've ever done and would never live anywhere else in this country
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>>38914265
British people try (and fail) to bully Americans by acting like we're superior, but in reality we have every problem America has but worse.

>Just as many fat people, if not more
>More immigrants, and more violent/unsophisticated ones than America
>More economic inequality
>Worse politicians
>More dumb people
>More government corruption and public censorship

There is literally nothing redeemable about the UK. The only people who enjoy this country are people like >>38914188 who are born into families which have been rich for centuries and have all the political/economic power to do as they please.
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>>38914181
It's just him being salty about his predicament. Outside of major cities and niggervilles like where op lives it's a beautiful country with homely people. I live in the countryside surrounded by well-watered flora and blue skies, and desu the rain makes living comfy.
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>>38914283
This. Why the fuck anyone would choose to live in London is beyond me. Tfw nice big two bed flat with garden for 350 a month up here in Scotland.
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>>38914026
>The grass is always greener on the other side,

Christ I fucking hate this expression because every dick head on the planet uses it incorrectly.
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>>38914320
Never said I was rich. Just two normal working parents on 30 grand and 20 respectively. who chose not to live in an overpriced shithole.

Im sure the poor don't do fantastic in America either
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>>38914318
>Devon
Cornwall here. Hey neighbour
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>>38914188

>5 large bedrooms
>3 bath
>ocean views
>250,000

Where? I find this hard to believe

Where I am 250,000 will get you a 2 bedroom 1 bathroom house
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>>38914320
>Just as many fat people, if not more
false
>More immigrants, and more violent/unsophisticated ones than America
false
>More economic inequality
Arguable.
>Worse politicians
not possible
>More dumb people
about the same
>More government corruption and public censorship
I'll give you censorship at least
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>be Brit of Pakistani descent
>born just in time to see this shithole become like home

Seriously, the food and culture would be vastly improved.
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>>38913946
Of course.

These commie block areas do exist, but anyone with half a brain stays the fuck away from them. They're paki, polish and nigger ghettos.
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>>38914320
>Worse politicians
come on now
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>>38914376
Scottish island. Say what you like about that but it's great. No crime. It's not that hard. I even see one in the same place for 150000. Needs work but perfectly liveable.
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>>38914419
It's grey and windy for 99% of the year though, and that shit is not comfy
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>>38914375

>Cornwall

Also based
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>>38914403
>>38914318
>Implying living in a fucking boring village with nothing more than a post office and a cornershop is any better

Those country bumpkins named Stephen and Sarah are no better than London's Ahmeds and Pajeets.
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>>38914376
>Where I am

There you go
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>>38914445
>hates cities
>hates villages
maybe go live in a cave or something you miserable git
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>>38914383
>be Brit of Brit descent
>born just in time to fight in the inevitable civil war that purges all shitskins

Run back to Mecca while you can
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>>38914441
It actually isn't down the West coast on the gulf stream. though but ok. Implying winter storms aren't fucking comfy when surveyed from your 4 bed country retreat
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>>38914445

Do you know that there are large towns and cities in Devon that are not villages and have plenty to do, only without the plague of pakis and nigs like up country?
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>>38914382
>>Just as many fat people, if not more
>false

You are correct, but you're not that far behind us.


>>More immigrants, and more violent/unsophisticated ones than America
>false

I don't know what the situation is in the UK; but it's pretty awful here, so you'll get no argument from me.


>I'll give you censorship at least

What's being censored? I know it's not titties, because you guys are always bragging about that.
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>>38914407
At least they're an interesting watch, mate. Trump has personality and isn't afraid to say things. He's entertaining even if you don't agree with him.

Meanwhile the United Cuckdom has
>Theresa "I Hate Freedom" May
>Jeremy "Literally A Communist" Corbyn
>Nicola "Gibe Me England's Tax Moni" Sturgeon
>Every single pretentious Lib Dem cunt
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>>38913856
>The entire world wants to move to the US.
The entire world wants to bomb the U.S as well. It's why we can't let many people in.
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>>38914506
I go to university in Exeter.
>plague of pakis and nigs
Nah, instead it just has white trash and fucking hordes of scummy homeless people
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>>38914515
They're interesting because it's not our country. I'm glad Trump won but memes aside his administration has been a disorganised shit show.
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>>38914475
We don't need to fight, all I have to do it wait.

I live in Leicester, very brown here, same with a lot of big cities. Give it a few decades and we'll outnumber whites in most places.
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>>38913966
>murika doesn't want more white English speaking people to move in
Yes we do you faggot.
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>>38913856
Not that simple. You either have to be:
>famous, or otherwise prove that you should be allowed to bypass the normal immigration procedures
>a very important figure in your field eg. top-tier researcher, CEO, surgeon specialising in some rare kind of surgery, world-class chef etc.
>a highly skilled/experienced worker eg. pharmaceutical chemist, avionics engineer, doctor etc.

Everyone else is either put on a waiting list for years or straight up rejected. Or you could just be a dirty spic and hop across the border and make your way to a sanctuary city until you pump out a kid, seems fair desu.

It annoys me because I'd love to live in the US. The values and culture and fucking everything in the US are so much more appealing to me than my own country. My country isn't for its people any more. It hates them. It exists to bring in, shack up and put on benefits the worst dredges of the world. And on top of that it imposes crippling measures on what should be our natural freedoms.

I would love to move to the US but I am only a semi-skilled worker, I have no hope of being accepted, but I'm a good, hard-working white person who genuinely appreciates the values and freedoms that the US provides, who would contribute to the US's society and economy, and who has never broken the law in his life and never will. Yet savage drug pushing gang-bangers who rape and mug and rob and murder at a whim are flooding in to the US.

My life is bleak and I hate it.
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>>38914572
I believe he means that the government doesn't want more white English speakers, not that the actual americans don't.
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>>38914584
>or you could hop the border and have a kid
Hmmmm
>be uk
>move to mexico
>hop border
>have kid
That's it, you made!
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>>38914158
would you rather have all of what you just listed AND your foreskin or "freedom" guns and a circumcised penis
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>>38914631
Except I don't want to break across the border like a fucking subhuman spic. Also, god willing, Trump is gonna do something to stem the tide of anchor-babies or even fucking just remove the policy, it's retarded anyway. I know it's a very long shot but I can dream.
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>>38914566
>implying your filth are capable of cloak & dagger tactics when all you do is bomb everyone and chimp out on the streets
>implying indians are a part of your hordes

I don't mind you living, but stay in your wastelands if you're not going to civilise the fuck up.
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>>38914632
The fact that you put the word freedom in quotations tells me instantly that you are a cuck.

Just because you don't value personal liberty doesn't mean no one else does, fucking Labour shill
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>>38914644
>sub human spic
>worshipping the reddit god emperor
ok be stupid
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>>38914667
I don't worship him, he's honestly been very disappointing, I'm just saying if anyone is ever going to do something about anchor babies it would be him. Like I said, it's a long shot but I can dream
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>>38914667
You forgot
>>god willing
before calling him stupid.
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>>38914138
>AAAH EVIL MUSLIM TERRORISTS
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>>38914584
Just convince some idiot girl from the American Midwest to marry you, murrican grills will do anything for a man with an accent .
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>>38914658
i'm a free american with guns and a circumcised penis though, i don't care about your labour party
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>>38914685
>he's been disappointing
HE"S BEEN A PRESIDENT

That. Is. All.

Now stop it. Got nothing to do with your choices in life.

Stop hero worshiping. There are no heroes. There's never been any heroes. There's never going to be any heroes. It's about whatever system you live in. Now get there.
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>>38914584
You could just simply find a girl in the US and marry her in vegas or something then apply for a green card. You just have to do this smartly so they don't assume that you are doing this for a visa fraud.
This is my plan, my current GF lives in the US and she is visiting me in the UK then i'm visiting her in December. I told her that once i finish my studies i'm willing to relocate to her if we are still together
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>>38914719

>don't let your dreams be memes

commentario
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>>38913856
Where there's a will, there's a way.

My mother's side is Mexican (inb4 go back jokes). After my grandfather died (who was the breadwinner), and my mom, who was in a bad relationship with a psychopath, decided it was time for a new start, she and her family formulated a plan to come over.

They were raised proper middle class, so they balked at the idea of doing the typical shit of hiring a "coyote" to trek across the desert -- they weren't that desperate. After my mom consulted with her sister who was college educated and the smarter one, they find a legal loophole. At the time, they had a guest worker program, or some type of H1 thing, one of those programs, and they basically went on weekend trips to several employers in the States, for several weeks. They offered them each a bribe essentially to sign off the visa letter, saying they were going to sponsor them. They ended up paying, in those days, $500 each to some farmer guy with an agriculture company, and who wrote some letter saying, that they (my mom and aunt) were going to work long term as field hands, picking up strawberries or whatever.

Of course. They never showed up for those jobs. They got regular jobs, settled down, and laid low. They got their green cards in due time, with employment history, and they jumped to the front of the line because, remember they were 'sponsored' to come here.

And so the rest is history.

So if you really want to come to the US,. then there are scams and loopholes to explore. Leave your dignity and ethical qualms at the door, and research what's your best move.
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>>38913798
>3 month US work visa just expired
>just long enough to get a taste of better life and climate and values there but not able to stay
>too ugly to have arranged green card marriage

worst feeling leaf btw
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>>38914883
Are you male or female? If you're female we can work something out.
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>>38914791
>when there's a will there's a way
I'd say that Mr. Reeves is turning over in his grave but...
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>>38914703
Doesn't fucking matter. You're shilling for socialism.
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>>38914948
You're shilling for a zionist occupation government that sacrificices the foreskins of infant White Males to Moloch
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>>38914694
t. butthurt shitskin
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America is pretty rad when you live in poverty, either it's city slums or rural towns and trailer parks where basically every major building is as old as when it was first settled during the wild west days.

Eastern America is just endless urban sprawl for literally forever in any direction.

The idyllic suburban life with big identical houses and hour long commutes to the city isn't even as good as it might look from the outside.
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>>38915043
That town looks cool and interesting as fuck. Maybe not to live in but at least to explore
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>>38914926
Honestly, I can speak through experience that through hard work, shaking hands, and buttering people up, doors do open for you. I had a hell of a time getting into my first choice of a university. Actually, to be very precise, I wasn't going to get into *any* public university in my state, as they all had the same exam. I couldn't pass the admission exam, specifically the math portion, so brainstormed solutions. Only way was to pass a college algebra course at a community college in order to waive the requirement. Me, being dumb as shit at math -- I was never going to pass it. So I brainstormed some more, and more.

I hit up ratemyprofessor and shopped around for a college with an easier math course. I finally found a dumbed down algebra course that they had just launched, aimed at people for me. Only problem? It was in another county, 30 mins from where my aunt lives. What did I do? I begged for a room, had to really pitch it as my only hope, for finishing college at a proper school, not a diploma mill. I convinced her.

I hauled ass to an area I didn't know, I studied my pants off for 8 weeks, and talked to the instructor, despite my studying, I was still faling with a 'D', I managed to her curve me and the class, especially after explaining the ordeal of me being there. Got my 'C', sent in my transcript, with otherwise great grades, and got accepted to my uni. I start in 2 weeks. And I never expected to ever finish up my college education, after being a college drop-out for a long while.

So the point of this blog post. If you want something done, then you find a way. Had I stayed home, not brainstormed shit, and not cozied up to my aunt, and the instructor too, then I would still be where I was a year ago --- a Neet.
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>>38914911
straight male, why else would I be on r9k
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>>38915159
Oh it sure is neat to see old ass towns out west because muh American history and all but to actually live or stay in one for long is pretty shit. There's literally nothing to do except drugs and alcohol because playing in the great outdoors actually requires money to throw around. Also you can walk end to end in most of these towns in less than 30 minutes, and have to spend literally two to six hours driving to the nearest major city to actually do anything.
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>>38915201
Yeah. I was just fantasizing about working out with a fembot. I would've just requested sex a couple of times, or a large sum of money, and I'd sign on the dotted line. We could've done some Vegas shotgun wedding, and made some convincing photographs, showing that we're actually a couple.

Sounds like a simple enough thing to pull off. I'm sure females do all this time. But yeah, even with gay marriage legal, there's no way I'd ever convince the Customs agent that I was in a homosexual relationship.

Try finding a gay guy, no joke.
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>>38913843
Same in europe avoid major cities
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>>38914138
Ya but no terrorism n weed
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>>38914005
i moved alone lmao
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>>38914158
Well one paki girl got shit for saying kill all white men
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I agree OP the UK is a pretty shit country.

>Extremely prevalent class system which exists to cater towards the middle and upper classes. Will not get fixed any time soon because there is barely any opposition; those in power are remnants of such classes who do not care that the working class in particular is in a dire state

>Speaking of, majority of the working class are detained in entry level retail jobs or manual labour work due to being unable to afford decent schooling. Free schools available to these people are cespits where it's much more difficult to succeed. Meanwhile middle class children are given the best resources and teachers. Grades are distributed on a national basis making it easier for the middle class schools to perform well (lower end schools bring the grade boundaries down for the middle and upper classes)

>As such the majority of decent universities are made up of priviledged upper and middle class students who have been spoonfed everything and end up being absolute tossers who want to rebel against their snobby parents, and foreign students. Most of these people go on to get the best jobs and be successful continuing the cycle

>Certain towns like Oxford, York etc. are completely different worlds to other places like the crap parts of London and those shown in OP's pic.

>Shitty drinking culture in which people are encouraged to do the same thing every friday night: go to the pub with mates and then hit the clubs usually ending with them puking in the streets outside of the local chip shop


It's difficult for me to feel a sense of patriotism towards this country when I barely see anything good about it. Any brits like to explain what's so good about this shithole?
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>>38915722
I may not be a Bong but I'd guess it's that it may be shit, but it's their shit. Also muh anglo master race.
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>>38913798
Right, I'm going to say this now because coming from a British citizen I am frankly sick of seeing material like this being posted and others trying to exaggerate the slightest flaws of the state to atomic levels. First and foremost you receive free state education, free health-care, free pension plans on top of the child benefit should you ever wish to have children and access to over 50 universities that are ranked within the top 500 worldwide. Add on to the fact that the current unemployment rate is standing at 4.5% according to the ONS (as of 2017 March-May), one of the most competent military and one of the most stable governments in history. You have an enormous safety net and one of the most generous welfare systems in the world and yet you still complain, you will never be satisfied! Holy shit you're only valid point is the inefficient land use.

Want to know why the UK is so "shit"? Because the population is so massively composed of entitled morons who think that because they work a 9-5 means they should be treated like the messiah then pretend to be "working class" so they can bitch about how their universal basic income isn't high enough when with the smallest semblance of discipline they can live in luxury - how about you go and work in the Chinese coal mines you little piece of shit, I'm so fucking fed up of you cunts degrading every aspect of the state and its people to fit your flaccid world-views that are being held back by none other than yourselves, be the God you desire you goose. Oh and if you don't like the sound of the harsh rain refracting off of your double-glazed windows at night then you can go fuck yourself, shove a baguette up your ass and move to France, fucking Christ.

>>38915722
>extremely prevalant class system
No it fucking isn't. Anyone can go and buy a decent shirt and trousers off AliExpress instead of prancing around in trackies. I've lived next to a council estate all my life and they simply refuse to learn.
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>>38915933
What a shit talking cuck you are.
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>>38915933
Take the cock out of your ass Tory boy.
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>>38915182
>shake hands
Reeves stops reading there.
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>>38915933
>No it fucking isn't. Anyone can go and buy a decent shirt and trousers off AliExpress instead of prancing around in trackies. I've lived next to a council estate all my life and they simply refuse to learn.

I'm not the guy you've quoted but you completely fucking missed the point you dipshit

The point of the archaic British class system is that it controls the levers of power.
>Kids born into middle-class or upper class families
>They go to private schools simply because their parents are wealthy
>The private schools provide the only good education in the country
>Therefore the kids from already wealthy families take most spaces at Oxford/Cambridge etc
>They use their connections from school/university to muscle their way into top jobs in international corporations/the BBC

Look at the powerful people in this country and you'll see the vast majority of them come from VERY similar backgrounds. Our politicians on both the left and the right went to the same schools, the same universities, and did the same things in their youth. Even our fucking actors and comedians come from the same sheltered middle class backgrounds.

In any civilised country eg America/Canada/Australia you will see people rising up the chain. Apart from the Bushes and Trump essentially every recent US President has risen from humble or at least ordinary beginnings to take the most important job in the world. Meanwhile in the UK we have one high school (Eton) which has produced NINETEEN of our country's leaders.

Plus we still have a literal medieval M O N A R C H Y. In which the heir to the throne is a posh bumbling hippie cuntbag with no jaw.
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>>38915933
>>38915722
Cont. What's unfortunate is that many of those living in relative poverty have the same opportunities as those born into the mid-working/ middle classes though are held back by this ludicrous notion that they have to "be" something in the sense of becoming known, and what better way to accomplish such than drinking far past their limits and succumbing to antisocial behavior - I'm not saying that all of these people are to be held accountable though when you drive around a council block and interact with these people you can't help but feel a sense of emptiness at the wonder of what they must actually think about. Also comprehensive education is more than sufficient, its simply that the education system refuses to teach students how to become productive and promote self-learning, our anti-intellectual society will be the very bane of this nation in centuries to come.

Also As such the majority of decent universities are made up of priviledged upper and middle class students who have been spoonfed everything and end up being absolute tossers who want to rebel against their snobby parents, and foreign students. Most of these people go on to get the best jobs and be successful continuing the cycle
Not quite; universities lower the entry standards for students from poorer backgrounds/ poorer areas, I've known students have their grades requirements lowered from a AAA to a BBB just for living in my area. No doubt those who are born into mid-upper and upper class families fit into that picture, though middle and mid-working is far less predictable.

>>38915994
Want to refute my point, or are you going to weep and utter "cuck". Don't get me wrong, I used to take the anti-British "doom and gloom" outlook that many pertain to today, though eventually you grow up and understand how it works.

>>38916019
Not aligned to any political parties, I'm very against indoctrination of any sort.
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The UK is by a considerable distance the biggest shit hole in western Europe.

Just deal with it.
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>>38913798
move to the US

come to arizona
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>>38916082
And? That pertains to the mid-upper/ upper classes which are marginal in virtually every sovereign country. Fact of the matter is that any working-class individual can take the initiative to use the free libraries, education and work placements to attain the knowledge needed to partake in a course be it at a medical school or a university and thus enter a career that is more than likely victim to a skills shortage. Obviously few people are going to join the mid-upper/ upper classes though who particularly wants to? And there are many comprehensives which provide excellent education, that's not to say there aren't also poor comprehensives though such are in the minority. Besides our attitude towards education is dire compared to that of the Chinese, Koreans etc. even if some may consider them draconian.
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>>38916238
>That pertains to the mid-upper/ upper classes which are marginal in virtually every sovereign country.

They are marginal in the UK and yet they control a disproportionate amount of government, the economy and the media.

Pic related, an actor who literally would not have had any of his opportunities had he not been born into a powerful/wealthy family that could afford sending him to Eton and then Cambridge.

>Obviously few people are going to join the mid-upper/ upper classes though who particularly wants to?

Really? So your argument is that the working classes should be content to just wallow in wagecuck obscurity, while the old school aristocracy get on with the business of running the country?

You prove exactly what is wrong with the attitude of British people. I'm leaving this gay country at the first opportunity even if I have to sell a limb to do it.
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>>38916384
>They are marginal in the UK and yet they control a disproportionate amount of government, the economy and the media.
Correct me if I'm wrong though is this not the case in virtually every non-socialist country?

Also you misinterpreted my point, apologies if I formatted it poorly. Undoubtedly the working class should be promoted in their attempts at attaining class promotion through a combination of discipline, education and hard-work - though I sincerely doubt that any would want to go past that, to venture into mid-upper/ upper class warrants a degree of materialism that frankly is of little desire to those that weren't born into it, given that the mid-working/ middle classes have the perks of the former without the same degree of stress and loss of personal freedoms then surely such should be optimal for the average citizen (also keep in mind that the middle class currently outnumbers the working class as a proportion). And I know this will come off as projecting though I heavily doubt that many people in the country want to become actors, politicians, presenters etc. as much as they want secure careers. Once you get over the fact that you'll never be one of the very few who were either born rich as you say or are naturally gifted to enter those fields you find contentment in life, there's no pressure in exerting yourself to be remembered when your existence will be nullified in less than a century. Though if we all do our part to help out then our quality of life can only improve on the whole.
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>>38916238
>obviously few people are going to join the mid-upper/ upper classes though who particularly wants to
Do brits really think like this?
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>>38916559
Yep, you're just proving my point about "the British attitude" further I'm afraid.

People in this country lack any ambition or drive. They're content to sit back and watch others do the important/exciting jobs while they sit on their arse and say "NOT FOR ME EH LADS?"

In every other Anglo country, people have actual desire to be successful. Why do you think Trump is popular? Americans look at him and think "I want to be like him". The average Brit is so self-degrading and pessimistic that they could never think with that mindset.

Like I said, I'm out. Sick of this depressing country, its depressing people and its depressing politics.
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>>38913798
Dude, chill out. You could be born in Poland. Preety much the same story, but coming together with hunger salaries and people who don't even pretend to not hating you
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>>38913798
>>38914158
Cry me a River you soft cunts

I rather prefer being a bong and not having to shill 3k for a broken leg, also our Dick's ate not mutilated at birth.

If you're so obsessed about conservative politicians, rural landscapes and 99% white people just move to Hungary/Poland or something. You can do it tomorrow visa free
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I didn't read anything save for the last couple of posts.

OP, I will say that grass is always greener on the other side. I follow Louis Thoreux, the documentarian for the BBC, and he did a move to LA for a few years (He's an American citizen too), and then promptly moved back a couple of years later, citing home sickness and culture shock, amongst other reasons.

Although, we technically share a common linage, and the same language (some will dispute that lel), we've vastly grown apart in the last 300-400 years. You may think that you 'understand' American culture, through our cultural hegemony, i.e., Hollywood, but Hollywood isn't representative of America.

You will be culture shocked when you get. I've heard reversed experiences of Americans going to Britain and Ireland, and literally not being able to communicate with some heavily accented people, not understanding the social customs/mores of your country, and not getting your humor, amongst several other things.

Americans are, paradoxically, both very individualistic, but also, very extroverted. There are no classes here. There are no lords; No respect from where you are from, or how you talk (although, supposedly some girls find some English accents sexy). Here, you're expected to have opinion on things, but know when to, and when not to share them. Politics, religion, and money are extremely sensitive topics, that you don't discuss outside of close family or friends -- unless you're prepared to risk a confrontation with someone. America IS extremely polarized right now. But despite our differences, you're still expected to walk up to strangers, strike up conversations, and ask how their day is going (despite not caring), because we're Americans -- because we're free and we can. Religion here is very important to people. And so is a solid work ethic. We're up there with Germans and Koreans in terms of productivity. Because of puritian heritage, your humor and coarseness can offend many people. And more.
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>>38916681
>Americans are, paradoxically, both very individualistic, but also, very extroverted. There are no classes here. There are no lords; No respect from where you are from, or how you talk (although, supposedly some girls find some English accents sexy). Here, you're expected to have opinion on things, but know when to, and when not to share them. Politics, religion, and money are extremely sensitive topics, that you don't discuss outside of close family or friends -- unless you're prepared to risk a confrontation with someone. America IS extremely polarized right now. But despite our differences, you're still expected to walk up to strangers, strike up conversations, and ask how their day is going (despite not caring), because we're Americans -- because we're free and we can. Religion here is very important to people. And so is a solid work ethic. We're up there with Germans and Koreans in terms of productivity. Because of puritian heritage, your humor and coarseness can offend many people. And more.

Literally all of this sounds perfect to me.
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>>38916571
We have an enormous safety net, we don't need superfluous assets and investment portfolios. And given that most high-paying jobs require one to work around the clock (see the NHS) then there really isn't any incentive when you can gain utility by choosing a career that pays slightly lower though will leave you with a decent work-life balance. Of course some naturally slip through the cracks, though fundamentally nothing can be done as tragic as it is.

>>38916623
Its funny you say that, I agree with near everything there that you posted. We should aspire to become more than what we are and create the most with our limited life-spans, though that doesn't mean that we should have millions of citizens jousting to become the next prime minister, its best we take a more practical approach via the laws of supply and demand. Ultimately the citizenry needs far more ambition and drive as you say, though there are more than just material means to achievement satisfaction, are their not? And besides what even is enjoyment anyway?
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>>38916623
Then kill yourself, or move away and stop being a whiney cunt.

Oh and what you call depressiveness and pessimism, your obviously cleverer compatriots call being realistic.
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As a Brit you would be better off moving to Australia, bar some tiny tiny differences the culture is pretty much the same.

Or you can move to Texas and be surrounded by Mexicans and sit in traffic all day...

Oh then your grandmother gets hit by a car and sell the house to pay for her care
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>>38916708
Well, you may think that now, but you will lose your bonds and sense of belonging to your social groups. Here, you have to make something of yourself. Our social net is much smaller. There is no "Dole" for single men. If you don't work, then you can join the homeless at the soup kitchens. If you get mangled in a car accident, and your health insurance plan sucks, then you get fucked with a huge bill.

A person's fate in America is much more in their own hands, since the government plays less of a role than in social democratic countries like Europe. Basically, there's no one here to hold your hands.

Well, if you're inspired and entrepreneurial, then maybe that's what you want to hear. I'm just telling you, real life America, isn't like in the Hollywood movies you see. We don't all go to parties every weekend, with kegs, and red solo cups, we don't all make a bunch of drama in our social lives like some sitcom, and we definitely don't lead magical, happy lives all all the time -- far from it.

If you're like OP, and you want a 300k house with 4-5 rooms, nice front and back yard, then you need to earn it. Oh, and in the most desirable parts of the country, buying homes like that is no longer a possibility. Foreign investors, Chinese and Russians, are buying up everything. So even that American dream of having a nice house and being left alone, is now more elusive.
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>>38914318
this

America and Germany (probably) are the same.

t. used to like in big city but now live in a sub 5,000 person mountain town
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>>38914515
Why do you want politics to be a Punch and Judie show? It's serious business.
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>>38914553
>They're interesting because it's not our country
nothing could be further from the truth, ive never once visited the UK, i like their history, but aside from Nigel all your politicians say think and do the same shit.
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>>38917001
Politics matters very little so long as the government is restricted from instituting totalitarian/authoritarian measures, as is the case in most civilised western countries.

Things change very little between administrations, so I'd much rather have a laugh and a bit of excitement watching people duke out than see fucking Old Man Corbyn deliver another "LE KILLER BLOW" to Theresa May in the crumbling house of commons.
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>>38913798
enjoy living in New Pakistan brudder :^ )
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>>38913798
Hey Brit move to Houston you'll love the weather and the people. And it's about as expensive as 80 percent of the u. S.
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>>38913798
Oh my god do brithfags complain about architecture, thats an example of how little worries you have. You dont like your weather? Try living in the fucking desert! (Sonoran desert, some days we run out water). Stop being a bitch
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>>38915660
>moved alone to Germany at the age of 17
Tell us a story.
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>>38914445
Yes, they are. Just accept you won't be happy anywhere you grass-is-grenner poofter.
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>>38915933
holy shit you're a faggot LOL
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>>38916634
>You could be born in Poland
I fucking wish. I wish I was a Polish worker in the UK. Suffer the pakis in the UK for a few months of the year working in the sklep sending fat cheques back home, then come back and live like a king. EZ
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