What's it like knowing that Chad can turn into a beautiful

losing weight is a long and hard process
not worth it unless you really enjoy doing it

>>38867336
I hate my genes so much. Literal skeleton for most of my life and still pretty damn skinny. Worked my ass off to try and put weight on, spent I don't even know how much money on meats and protein powders, even those really expensive EAS ones. Was taking toilet clogging shits every morning. Two years of exercise and lifting and it only brought my 0-fat weight up to 145 lbs. Only gained tiny, barely noticeable definition and my arms refused to grow. Fuck this curse of a body.

>that vegeta haircut

>>38867381
how is something that makes you feel good not worth it? Some love every second they step on the scale and see it lower than before

>>38867381
Wrong
>>38867336
It's true. I know this guy, used to be a model in his early 20, he works out for like a month and his arms are already bigger than me working out a year.

>>38867430
Don't blame your genes. You were probably barley working out.

It takes effort to build muscle.

>>38867381
long yes hard no
absolutely worth it and highly enjoyable

>>38867430
GOMAD, test + dbol. 10mg nolva when on dbol to keep gyno at bay. aromasin for ai.

You'll grow like a weed.

>>38867507
Genes play the most important role in being able to build muscle. Why do you think so many people have to resort to anabolics or testosterone boosters? You can't just give Peewee Herman a steak and think that'll make him Hulk Hogan.

>>38867594
>>38867473
>>38867469
for you i guess not for everyone you testosterone driven ham beasts

Whoa wait, is that Mark from bb19? I just had to do a double take.

>>38867632
Well you literally can because that's how it works.

Morons who use steroids are just lazy.

>>38867647
Sorry swetie but genetically you are programmed to enjoy exercise.

>>38867734
this is it ladz the new calories in calories out

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>>38867714

Well, part of it is laziness and the lust of instant gratification, but the human body does have a genetic limit in how big it can get. steroids break through a TON of genetic barriers that even a world class diet and exercise regimen would never be able to achieve in some people

>>38867768
Well yeah, obviously. But it takes like 2 years of working out on a rigorous schedule to reach that peak.

If you're a DYEL you will grow if you work out 20 mins a day every other day.

>>38867757
>new calories in calories out
But it's true, fatass. If you don't get enough energy fromfood, the body scrapes it off your phat ass.

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>>38867788

For some people their genetic limit is still DYEL in regular fitting clothes. It doesn't mean they don't look good under their shirt they're just not genetically designed to ever get big enough to fill out a shirt. and the only way to show off their muscle is if they look like a douche and buy everything one size too small.

pic related. Its basically how Ned Flanders is depicted in The Simpsons.

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>>38867336
This was always the consensus. You shouldn't listen to virgins.

>>38868016
i really wish i had a vision of me being skinny

>>38867336
I want to be a beautiful butterfly too ;_;

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>>38867336
I keep fucking telling my boyfriend this. He's going from skinny to skinny fat because he basically eats one big fast food meal a day at lunch for the past 8 months at his new job.

He used to be skelly mode in high school but he couldn't help that. I'm not going to force him to change himself, but I want him to just be healthier and finally not have a fat boyfriend

>>38867714
t. oblivious flunky

https://generationiron.com/truth-genetics-bodybuilding/
>Genetics. That one painful or amazing word - depending on who you are. If you have good genetics, the world favors you. Things come easy to you in certain areas. Ever meet that person who never studies for a test but still gets A's? Yeah, that's genetics.
>In bodybuilding people often ask the question, "Does genetics really play such a large role in success?" The painful truth is - yes, yes it does.
>To put it simply, if you put in the same exact amount of work as someone with amazing genes - that person will see far better results than you. Facts are facts. If you have a faster metabolism, you will keep lean muscles far easier. If you have super efficient satellite cells surrounding your muscle fibers, muscle growth will be achieved at a much faster rate.
>For people with bad genes, this can be very frustrating.

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>J-JUST LIFT BRO! H-HAHA, THE GIRLS LOVE ME!

>>38867452
it's hairline receding you mong

>>38868219

He clen'd that fat away. He posts on bodybuilding.com from time to time. There's little to no way to get that fat, then lose that much fat and retain virtually all of the muscle (if not gain a little) mass underneath.

>>38867381
Exactly. I've tried lifting and calisthenics, started couple of times in fact. Hated every second of it, even after doing it every day for 3 months.
>>38867594
>>38867734
Nope and nope, no matter what exercise I do, i hate it. Seeing pictures of people who made it makes me even more hateful towards myself.

>u have to keep doing it bro

Yeah, for how long? How long am I supposed to do something that I absolutely hate before I see any effects? And no, I won't start to like it, you can't start to like something you hate. For me working out is like sticking a knife up my asshole, there's no chance I'll start to enjoy it.

>u dint see effects coz u were eating shit bro

Wrong. I combined excercising with keto diet, lots of chicken, brown rice, cheese, eggs, veggies, bananas and apples. No milk, no soda, just some water and black coffee. Any effects? None. Any gains? None. Did I at least loose my bitchtits? Absolutely fucking not. Fuck the /fit meme, if it's working for you then great, but "everyone can lift bro" is a lie.

>>38867381
Losing weight is one of the easiest and simplest things ever. Just close your mouth and go for a run once in a while if you want to accelerate the process you fat lard

>>38867430
>Muh genetics xddd

Sleep, food, work. One of these things was lacking.

STEROIDS
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>>38868851
>every day for 3 months.
>everyday???
>three months
>Yeah, for how long? How long am I supposed to do something that I absolutely hate before I see any effects
>No milk????
>some water
>some???
Would you mind posting the routines you followed for three months?

>>38868016
He went from 40 to 14
God fucking damn

>>38868016
>>38867336
Facial gains are real.

>>38867381
You can become Chad in only a year

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>>38867381
This couldn't be any more wrong. It was just a matter of eating right and cardio. I don't have the pics of me when I was fat because I deleted them out of shame and I rather not remember how horrid I looked but it is definitely worth it. All it took was r9k mocking me to jumpstart it all. Thanks robots. Maybe I should get memed again to get ass into the gym for some gains.

>>38870285
Pushups, squats, stuff involving dumbbells (bicep curls, tricep excercises, OHP with dumbbells). Basically, it was the skinny-fat routine. I was working out at home because that one time when I went to the gym, I couldn't even lift an empty barbell and I struggled to put it back on the holder (or whatever it's called). Everyone at the gym saw that so I quickly went home almost crying.
I didn't really care about building muscle, I wanted to get rid of fat, especially bitchtits. I was riding a bike 5 days a week as well and powerwalking everywhere. In addition to that, I work in a warehouse so I have to lift stuff like boilers and other heavy shit on a daily basis. And it didn't do SHIT. I was looking like shit and I still look like shit, I've tried to start working out a couple of times after that but what's the point if it doesn't work.

>>38870802
>I couldn't even lift an empty barbell and I struggled to put it back on the holder
>I work in a warehouse so I have to lift stuff like boilers and other heavy shit on a daily basis
This honestly doesn't make sense. Are you trying to fuck with me? Most barbells you'll find weigh 45 pounds.
Also
More importantly this is just shit you threw together. You can't do that unless you actually know what you're doing. Losing weight is all about diet. You don't need to power walk everywhere, but if you just wanna lose weight then all you need to do is count calories.

>>38870970
I have virtually no muscles in my arms, they are skinny as fuck. I can't benchpress anything, even that empty barbell. BUT, when it comes to lifting boilers, I sort of pull them up using my whole body and use the momentum. I can't explain it better. Also, I don't have to lift them to a higher places, it's just moving them around from one pallet to another.
I wasn't even eating that much, it was just one meal a day, and then some dark bread and fruit afterwards. And I didn't bother with counting calories, I'm too stupid for that. Besides, loosing weight is all about burning more callories that you eat, right? So that's what I was doing, both at work and at home, and it didn't help at all.
Also, I'm not going to do any programs because I'll just get angry and frustrated if I won't be able to do some excercise or I won't be able to do the required reps or sets.
And I hate all the fitness forums and websites, including /fit, because I can't understand the strange fucking language they're using. It's just full of OHPs, BCs, fucking DMVAs and I'd have to use a fucking fit-to-english translator just to know what the fuck are they talking about.

His face didn't look too bad when he was fat. The bone structure was there

>>38867381
Worth noting that as you get older, enjoyment plays less and less into it.

I've done sports a lot when I was young, and I hated it every single fucking step on the way. I seriously hate it when people go "oh it's fun" "everyone has something they like" "you'll learn to like it".

That's bullshit, every fucking word from every person and media, all of it, bullshit. I fucking hate sports. I've always hated it, I will always hate it, and yet, I'm doing it.

When you're fat and get into your 40's, you're gonna develop a whole fucking plethora of problems with varying degrees of seriousness that really fuck up your life. So I do sports with the full knowledge that I fucking hate it. That I will continue to hate it. But I don't do it because it gets me skinny, or it gets me laid, or because I'm more proud of myself (trust me I'm not, all I want to do is sit by my computer both in work and at home).

I do sports because I want not to be chronically tired. I do sports because I don't want breathing to feel hard and labored. I do sports because I want to have the energy to enjoy my life OUTSIDE of the fucking sport shit. I don't even do it to up my chances of dying at the age of 70 instead of 50, I do it because I want to keep my quality of life, both mentally and physically, for the remaining 20-30 years as opposed to already being basically in a grave on both those accounts.

None of this matters jack shit when you're 20 or 30. But trust me, get to be my age and it WILL matter.

>>38871161
How can you burn more calories than you eat if you don't know how many you ate?
Also
Being fit if isn't just about doing exercises. Half of it is learning why this stuff is bad for you, why you shouldn't do this or that exercise and how to do that exercise etc.You can't just jump into if you don't know shit about it. Just go on /fit and try to learn everything you can. Don't be afraid to ask questions and be sure to learn what's a meme and what's not. Here's one you'll see a lot
ss+gomad
It stands for starting strength and gallon of milk everyday. You should do ss because it will make you stronger, but make sure you take the time to learn how to do the movements correctly. Gomad is for insanely skinny people. It's a way to bulk up in a fast, cheap manner. Dot do this because you're already fat. They're are also a bunch of different beginner routines, but ss will be thrown at you the most. Do the research because right now you're not putting even half the effort you think you are.

>>38871161
cont.
Also, that proves my point, here are some examples of the excercises name I found:
ickey shuffle, cross tuck jump, modified ice skater (wtf, is this deus ex?!), salsa step, clean and jerk, frankenstein squat, hang snatch, muscle snatch, power jerk (HAHAAHAHAAA), rack delivery.
What language is this?
>>38871418
No, sorry but I'm done with that. I'm not going to try again, for the Nth time, I don't have any willpower left, no motivation, there won't be any results and, as usual, I will hate working out and hate myself even more when I'll inevitably quit again.
If I'm supposed to rot away alone, then I would rather continue rotting away while doing stuff that doesn't feel like torture.

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>>38871161
Loosing weight isn't about burning more calories. As they say on the weightlifting sites "You can't out work a bad diet"

70% of your fat on your body is from your diet. If you want to lose fat eat less calories and fat causing foods like sugar(Fructose) and beer.

Now what you are telling me is that you are "skinny fat" from your previous posts and you want to gain the shredded look. To do that you need muscle. To gain muscle you need to eat above your caloric deficit(CD). To find your CD start at 2000 calories a day, see if you are gaining or losing weight, if you are gaining weight (1-2lbs+ weekly). Then you can begin strength training, you may need to increase your calories depending on intensity, volume, frequency. The reason why you want to gain strength is because you aren't going to get muscle without moving heavy weights typically you will want to aim for 200-300 Press, 300-400 Squat and Deadlift. This whole process can take 1-3 years depending on your competence and health factors.

Then once you get to that point. Reduce your calories till you begin losing weight slowly so that you don't lose too much muscle mass and strength. You will want to get in a flow of bulking/cutting. You will want to bulk up more muscle/strength then what you will lose form cutting. BTW if you get too fat than what is comfortable for you feel free to cut.

But nothing drastic like 1000 calories a day and working out every single day. Your metabolism will fuck itself up and you will slowly losing fat if not stall completely. Aswell as develop health issues.

Also don't forget to get plenty of sleep, relaxation, and food.

BTW you don't have to lift weights every single day. aim for 3-4 days a week with light walking inbetween those days. When it comes to exercise Less is More. If you hate working out you are doing too much and putting too much strain on your body. Check out a website Elitefts.com It is a powerlifting website but it is 100x better than /fit/iots.

>>38867430
be my gf origaniloo

>>38871350
>giving up your whole youth by doing something you hate just so you can breathe easily when you're old

It's a clever plan and all, but I think you might be congenitally mentally ill.

>>38871557
>Loosing weight isn't about burning more calories
Oh? Then why every fucking website states that it's literally that? You want to tell me that it's not true, that thermodynamics aren't true?
>If you want to lose fat eat less calories and fat causing foods like sugar(Fructose) and beer
I've written before, I did full ketosis diet, no sugar, no beer, no fastfood, it still didn't work.
Also, I don't want to be shredded, I just want to NOT have bitchtits and thighs as thick as fucking bridge pylons. And I don't want to become a fucking fitness professor to achieve that, and that's how I see your post, bulking, cutting, counting callories, some shit about metabolism etc.
>you may need to increase your calories depending on intensity, volume, frequency
>Your metabolism will fuck itself up and you will slowly losing fat if not stall completely. Aswell as develop health issues
So basically, before I take every sip of water, every bite of rice or whatever, I have to make some complicated calculations, review in my memory what I've already eaten that day, predict the future and update my workout plan accordingly. I've already written here that it's too complicated, if you enjoy not thinking about anything else than callories, reps/sets and volume/frequency/intnsity for the res of your life than that's fine, but I'm basically just one tiny step above being a literal retard and it's too complex for me. It's like you were trying to convince a toddler that quantum physics is fun while talking to him in a specialised language that even stephen hawking would have trouble understanding.

>>38871746
Fail troll is fail.

You still can't beat the iron logic behind it:

Paying a fee of around 3 hours weekly in training (HIIT + trips + showers), and getting used to grass food still allowing for the occasional dip into meats and sugars, is a small price to pay when every single other minute becomes an energetic, fun breeze with your work and hobbies, as opposed to being tired, depressed, aggravated, and sickly 24/7 to the point that you don't even care about computer games anymore. Fucking nit.

>>38870142
This. If you have cuck genetics absolutely nothing wrong with gear if you were already working for it. Statistically even a moderate dose of test will give you more muscle with 0 exercise as opposed to nattys working out 3 times a week at the gym. Compound that with exercise and at the end of your cycle you're either at or close to your genetic limit. Maintain for life but if your genes suck then you have my permission to die

>>38871787
>one tiny step above being a literal retard and it's too complex for me

Thanks, this makes sense. Simple mode engaged.

Make Diet,
Do Diet Make Bad?
Do Diet Make Good?
Diet Make Good.

"You can't outwork a bad diet"

>>38871953
Okay then.
Did I work out before? I did.
Did it work? No.
Did I diet? Yes.
Did it work? No.
Did I lift weights? Yes.
Did it work? No.
Did I do cardio? Yes.
Did it work? No.
Did I try multiple times? Yes.
Did it work? No.
Did I like it? No.
Will it ever work? No.
Is "muh genetics" simply an excuse? Well, it is, but it's a valid excuse, I have an hourglass figure, I don't gain muscle, no matter how much I lift, I have a small thin dick, bitchtits, small balls, almost no facial hair, babyface, large nipples, wide hips, fat legs, large ass and skinny arms.
And I'm a 25 year old guy. No amount of lifting will help me. But hey, at least I'm 6'1 so that's good, right?

>>38871350
Sports aren't fun now?
im 20, and i eat only trash, McDonalds, mac and cheese, processed meat, lots of sodas etc.
I can bet 100% that i would be a fatass if i didn't train boxing or run or play basketball everyday, and i only do it because it's fun, and my psychologist told me to do it to keep my depression in check.

>>38868219
what the fuck is wrong with his face

oregano mr roboto

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>>38868265
are you implying Vegeta didn't have a receding hairline?

Is that guys name mark?

>>38872048
self misery will help the least

>>38872422
I'm beyond help, self-misery is the only thing I have left. Also, have you forgotten where are you? Go to /soc if you want some happy optimistic, pretty people.

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>>38872048
>>38871787
>>38871491
>>38871161
>>38870802
>>38868851
>doesn't put in effort to research
>doesn't know that it takes longer than a week to lose bitchtits
>no routine
>CANT count calories so he doesn't actually know if he's going below what he needs
>barely knows any exercises
>meme exercises sprinkled in
>power walks
>no milk???
>complains about his life even though he won't take the proper steps to fix his mantits
Everyone stop replying to this fucking cretin. It's obvious that he really doesn't want to change. You're all just wasting your time.

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>>38872048
I believe I understand what is wrong with you. You tried but you failed. Try again and again till you figure out what the hell you are doing. Educate yourself. There are no excuses. Apply reasoning to the info you find, Will this help me? Who is the man telling me this? Does this information pertain to me? You can only hold yourself accountable when it comes to exercise. I took me 7 years to figure my shit out.

Since you are 25 years old you have yet to reach your peak. Males peak at 30+ years old and after that it just downhill from there.

Don't give up, You may hate yourself but that isn't an excuse to not do anything. Repress your emotions and stick your hand in the boil water.

>>38872611
I wanted to change, but I failed so yes, you are right, I don't want to change anymore.
And no, I don't have the patience to research the topic. I believed the "it's easy bro, just lift bro, that's what everyone is doing bro, just stop eating shit bro" meme. I will repeat again, if I have to become an expert in the field of fitness, then I don't have the will nor motivation to do it. It's not easy, it's not fun, it takes decades to achieve anything and there will always be someone who will be better than me, so I won't even have the satisfaction that I'm finally the best at anything in my life.
About the no milk thing, I've read that milk has got too much sugar to be ketosis-safe, so I've stopped drinking it. That's what every keto website is telling, stop drinking milk, unless its coconut milk.
And with the power walking, I figured out that if I walk fast everywhere, I will burn more calories that way.

>>38872748
>You may hate yourself but that isn't an excuse to not do anything
No, on the contrary, it's a perfectly valid excuse. Let me put it like this:
If I told you that if you'll climb MT Everest, then you have a chance, a CHANCE, not certainty, to win 10 mln $, would you do it?
Let's say that yes, you would do it, and yes, you climbed on top of Mt Everest. And then I tell you "whoops, no reward this time, but hey, how about you climb the K9 this time and MAYBE you'll win this time".
What would you say after all that effort and no reward? You'd say something like "go fuck yourself you stupid cunt, I ain't doing that shit again".
And that's understandable, there are very few people alive who would do it the second time. And I'm not that relentless kind of person, I'm below average, so no, I won't try again.

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>>38871840
joke's on you faggot I lift hard and I'm tired, depressed, aggravated, and sickly 24/7

dumbass haha

>>38867473
You're working out wrong then. Maybe you're an ectomorph and burn all the muscle doing stupid cardio. Maybe you worked out right but didn't eat correctly. It isn't the same for everyone

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>>38872791
>this entire post

You're so pathetic. You deserve to suffer, and I am content to know that you'll suffer in your self-imposed prison of obesity for your entire life, because you're too weak and pathetic to do what needs to be done to live a more fulfilling life.

/fit/ people are inherently superior to fatties, both aesthetically and morally/intellectually.

>>38872791
>if I have to become an expert in the field of fitness, then I don't have the will nor motivation to do it
>counting calories in the 1500-2500 range >needs a PHD

>It's not easy
It's like someone that refuses to study saying school is too hard.
>it takes decades to achieve anything
Stay fat, idiot.
> there will always be someone who will be better than me
If you actually cared about that you would have killed yourself a long time ago. There is always going to be people better than you in this world. Not even a fucking excuse.
>so I won't even have the satisfaction that I'm finally the best at anything in my life
You'll never be the best at anything. Get used to it.
>And with the power walking, I figured out that if I walk fast everywhere, I will burn more calories that way.
This is actually retarded. Do even know how many calories that burns? Here's a hint >not many
This is your fault. You're lazy there is nothing else to it. You don't even do your job correctly. Fuck off and stay fat.

>>38872886
I understand. I have no faith too. I often just wander through life without any goal. All I do is just experience things. Dreaming has become the most fun activity in the day because my mind creates a world for me that I am a part of and cannot fathom anything beyond that.
But in the end you are still alive, you must continue you must press on. Do what I do and repress your emotions and do what is required.

>>38873101
>>38873113

Also don't listen to these fags, tough love is what brought you here. In a community where everyone is suppose to be friends. They much rather turn on you because it is easier than seeing what you see.

>>38873101
>>38873113
I don't need people telling me they hate me, I have other people hating me already, as well as myself, so you're not going to change my mind that way.
It just proves my point: that getting fit is no something that anyone can achieve. It requires determination, motivation and a lot of time and effort. All these people around yelling "just do it bro" are liars and when they meet someone who can't do what they tell him to do, they start yelling
> I am content to know that you'll suffer
>you're too weak and pathetic
>Stay fat, idiot.
>You'll never be the best at anything
>Fuck off and stay fat
Why would I want to be a part of that community? By staying the way I am I only hurt myself, I don't insult other people just because they don't agree with my view on world.
You guys are basically telling "come on, jumping is easy" to a person with no legs, and when he says that he can't jump like you do, you start telling him to fuck off and kill himself.
I do realise that I'm the only person who can change the way I am, but I simply do not have the strenght to do it. And that's what you guys refuse to accept.

>>38867703
Yeah it is he is so hot with those thick af thighs and baby face

>>38873308
>It just proves my point: that getting fit is no something that anyone can achieve
You're lazy.
>It requires determination, motivation and a lot of time and effort
>wanting to get of bitchtits isnt enough motivation
>an hour a day for 4-5 days a week is a lot of time

>Why would I want to be a part of that community
>implying were calling you those names for no reason
>implying that were not calling you fat, lazy, idiot etc because you don't try to get fit then go cry on this board saying how it doesn't work
encouraging other to wallow in self pity
>implying that you're not just trying to play victim

>You guys are basically telling "come on, jumping is easy" to a person with no legs, and when he says that he can't jump like you do, you start telling him to fuck off and kill himself.
Holy shit you're actually retarded. You don't have a disability. Maybe MAYBE you have gyno, but the difference between you and a legless person is that you didn't become fat by getting into an accident.
>I do realise that I'm the only person who can change the way I am, but I simply do not have the strenght to do it
Oh shut up. Even when you say shit like that it sounds like you're saying it's out of your hands.
>And that's what you guys refuse to accept.
>wont accept that it's his fault for not doing something correctly
Stay fat.

>>38873560
I'm not encouraging anyone to be like me, on the contrary, maybe someone will se how pathetic he might end up and he'll do something good.
And no, I don't have a physical disability, my problem is in my mind, and that's more difficult to overcome. Because how do you fight with, well, you?
It is my fault, and I know it, but that doesn't change anything. If it was someone else's fault, then that wouldn't make any difference, the fact that I'm to week to do it remains the same.
And yes, I am lazy, but that's because I believed all these lies that it will surely work, that I'll love it, all of that "releasing endorphines" shit. That's why it hurts even more, for a couple of months I had hope, I felt that finally, if I endure, it will get better. But how can you do something painful, hoping that it will change so much, and in the end, after all that energy spent, you end up with nothing? Are you really telling me that it wouldn't affect you in any way? Because if you're really that mentally strong, then why are you on this board and not on /fit or /soc or benchpressing 200 kilos or whatever?

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>>38873308
>he actually tries to pretend that he is physically INCAPABLE of getting /fit/, comparing himself to a legless person being told to walk/jump

Wow, you're a real piece of shit you know that? You're actually comparing your laziness to a physical disability? You consider yourself to be as helpless as a legless person due to your lack of will?

You're just shit. What a horrible person you are, I wish nothing but continued suffering upon you.

>>38873864
Jeeesus people, why are you getting so riled up? Yes, I'm lazy, yes, I wrote that thing bout a legless guy as a metaphor. You are telling me that I need willpower to do it, I don't have the willpower, therefore I can't do it.
And again, it's not like I didn't try, that's how I found out that I can't do it and that I don't enjoy it. It's just not for everyone, exactly like extreme sports or even anime isn't for everyone. Do you also get that angry at people who don't like other stuff that you enjoy?
Also, I'm not american, I thought that you'll notice this sooner because of the way I write.