Who here isn't a tranny but still wishes they were born

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>>38819032

and when you're 30+ and start degrading you can become a gold digger and never work for the rest of your life.

however you will become the scum of the earth.

>>38819032
Life isn't really like that for women. That's just a meme.

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It's not about easier life but i find feminine figure much more aesthetically pleasing. I'd probably spend all day trying on clothes and buying as much lingerie as possible.

>>38819077
What's it like then? How are any of these statements false?

>>38819092
>getting sex and relationships is only easy if you are good looking
>society shuns you if you aren't a mother or if you are single past the age of 25
>unrealistic expectations are placed on you to look perfect at all times
>only valuable lifeskill is being able to show tits for money, but even then it's only if they look good

Being a woman is only a good thing if you are pretty. Being an ugly woman is the modern equivalent of being a leper.

>>38819140
>>society shuns you if you aren't a mother or if you are single past the age of 25
That's bullshit unless you live in Eastern Europe.

>>38819140
No matter how you look, you are some guy's ideal. There are porn sites specializing in fat grannies, girls with gigantic noses, you name it.

>I'd commit murder to have been born a woman
If you want to commit murder just kys

>>38819140
You would still get sex anytime you wanted.

>>38819324
But women don't crave sex nearly as much as men do

>>38819324
Nah, you're wrong. I've wanted to lose my virginity for more than 10 years and no one has taken me up on it irl. Not that I try anymore.

>>38819324
It's more accurate to say as much cock as you want. I'm gay and can gave sex whenever. Doesn't mean the guy is sttractive though

>>38819032
After that escort thread with anon paying some ugly whore $1000/hr, I do wish I was born a woman.

I'd do anything to be a man. Being a woman is so unnatural to me. I'm not submissive, I'm not emotional, I don't care about love and romance, I'm not interested in trivial shit like makeup and fashion.
Whenever I talk to a woman, it shocks me how stupid she is. Conversations never go beyond family, "funny" things that happen to them, their failing relationships, bitching about [educational institution], weather, and their goddamn ugly fucking pets that they won't stop talking about. Or hair. I don't give a fuck about your haircut or what hair dye you use. They even try to gossip sometimes, those fucking simpleton lowlifes.

And while most men are boring too, it's still possible to find exceptional individuals.

Shit sucks. I'm superior to 99.9% of women, so everything would be so much easier if I were a man.

>>38819449
This is something that I have often heard, but can't it be solved by having male friends? You can talk about deep stuff with them and subsequently is more likely to have a satisfying sex life. Friends with benefits is for example a good model for analytical women.

>>38819449
Wew lad. You should try reddit, it's pretty much made for people like you.

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>>38819387

I'm sorry, nothing personal, but I have to ask: What's wrong with you, Anon? Basic logic dictates you could literally initiate a sexual encounter unless you're hideously deformed, obese, live in a religious theocracy or just really, really bad with people.

>>38819387
Lolwut, you never made a Tinder.

>>38819449
Is this some new self-hating special snowflake copypasta?

>>38819449
I've heard shit like this from roasties who can't solve a simple tripple integral or don't know what Biafra is. You're just a roast that is surrounded by brainlet normalfags, which makes you think you're smart or something. The fact is you'll get crushed in 5 seconds if you try to pull your low-IQ shit on anyone competent.

>>38819591
>obvious superiority complex
>self-hating

>>38819519
That's what I do, but it's not that simple. People expect you to act a certain way. If you don't, everything is much much harder. Relationships will fail because you're not gentle enough, friendships will fail because you don't fake enthusiasm like most women etc. If I were a man, none of that would happen because my behaviour would be natural and socially acceptable.

Basically, people want me to act like a lowlife (woman), but I'd rather die than do that, thus making my life harder.

>>38819591
>self-hating
It's the very opposite. I love myself, but I hate other women because they are inferior.
>special snowflake
Nice buzzword. But yes, I guess being better makes you special.

>>38819563
Actually, it's made for people who are my very opposite.

>>38819605
About 6% of women have the rational temperament, the letters N and T in MBTI. She's probably just one of them.

>>38819646
>who are my very opposite
But it's filled with pseudointellectual retards like you? Try /r/atheism

>>38819032
>>You can do no wrong in society's eyes
I'll give you the others, but literally everything a woman does is wrong to in society's eyes, as long as they're not part of the tiny minority of delusional feminazis.
>have sex, you're a slut
>don't have sex, you're a prude who modern men won't "waste their time" dating
>raise kids, you're just a dumb housewife who couldn't make it in the real world
>focus on a career, you're a crazy feminist who hates children and are bringing on the end of civilization
and if you're an unattractive woman, everything you do is by default either disgusting or just viewed as neutral. It doesn't matter if you're charitable, sweet, found the cure for cancer, or are a drug addict; the only thing that matters is whether or not you're pretty. And if you aren't, you're shit out of luck unless your only goal in life is to have one night stands with men who treat you like trash and laugh about it

>>38819605
>low level IQ
Heh, I knew somebody would try to play that card. My IQ is 140 (Mensa test). I ace everything where intelligence is required, I'm a top tier student (non-meme degree), I speak 4 languages (English is my third) and the only thing I'm bad at is interpersonal bullshit.

Nice try, though. Didn't see it coming at all. Hell, you're almost on my level.

>>38819609
Obviously. What do you think the source of extreme narcissism is?

>>38819664
>implying women with E- can be smart smart
>implying INTJs are smart
>implying INTP women exist at all

>>38819699
>My IQ is 140 (Mensa test)
>mfw roasthumans think thats high
Post proof, t-b-h.

>>38819676
But what points toward her being a pseudointellectual? 6% of women are still NTs (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rational_temperament).

>>38819578
I don't know, dude. I'm an ugly, fattish shut in right now, but when I was younger I was actually somewhat cute and very friendly but also extremely shy. I think irl shy people are thrown to the side in favor of the outgoing ones. But yeah, I'm ugly and introverted. Kiss of death.

>>38819032
The jury is still out on the tranny bit, but I think it would be nice. My submissiveness wouldn't feel out of place and something just sounds nice about having a hole that benis goes in rather than having a benis to insert.

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>>38819449
You remind me of Faye Kane just without the sex.

>>38819711
> implying INTP women exist at all

Almost 2% of women are INTPs, although I have to admit that I have never met one. INTP women start perhaps to pretend that they are interested in makeup and relationships and open up only to close friends?

So, I see this thread has quickly devolved into arrogant self-hating women projecting onto everybody, and falsely claiming that all men are privileged princes and kangz and they are jealous of all our privilege blah blah blah.

Any woman that has the "I'm one of the guys" mentality is a dumb cunt. You get all the benefits of being a protected coddled woman yet you also get equality too. Stop hating yourselves and appreciate who you are, being a man is not as easy as you think it is. Just because a few young cute effeminate little dudebros get everything handed to them doesn't mean all men are princes and kangz. KYS you self-hating femanon losers.

>>38819711
>fell for the MBTI meme

Nice to know that your IQ is below 140. Brainlet.

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>>38819699
>non-meme degree
Such as?

>>38819802
>implying it's not the easiest way to categorize the sheeple normos
Stay pleb, brainlet. I bet you believe people are unique speshul snowflakes.

>>38819795
But if you are a woman with an IQ of 140, isn't it justified to think that it's annoying when everyone sees you as someone keeping a vagina warm and moist instead of a thinking individual? It's probably still easier to be an intelligent woman than an intelligent man but I can see the struggle.

>>38819864
Everyone has a personality, even you special snowflakes.

>>38819734

Yeah, okay, I understand. Seems like cute and shy would have guys lining up. Well, I guess I get it since they're a lot harder to approach if you're just another variable of the average shmuck of a guy. But seriously, no one? Did you turn them down out of shyness and fear or were you just so comfortable being alone that you felt that you didn't really desire companionship?

>>38819873
it feels bad for all women to be thought of that way, not just the ones with high IQs bfs

>>38819864
Absolutely not. It's just that I found a vastly superior way to categorize people, but you wouldn't understand it anyway.

See, it's a system that's not fucked up by this stupid belief that all people have it's pros and cons. Seriously, what's the point of categorizing if you can't even categorize Gods and robots? Fucking retarded.

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>>38819888
>Everyone has a personality

>>38819873
>mensa
>muh IQ
>muhsoggyknees
Lol

>>38819917
But on the other hand most women really don't think about anything in depth. Although that won't make the woman a vagina warmer/moisturizer since the woman is still likely to be a productive individual.

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>>38819958
>But on the other hand most women really don't think about anything in depth
Are you fucking kidding me? I hate Staceys as much as the next guy but that is level one introspection that women are complaining about all the time

>>38819920
> See, it's a system that's not fucked up by this stupid belief that all people have it's pros and cons.

True. INTP for example has no pros but is an unlucky combination of I, N, T and P genes which are useful in other contexts.

>>38819920
>everyone is stupid except me
Are you still in middle school or have you really not grown out of that phase?

>>38819920
>wouldn't understand it anyway
Try me

>pros and cons
That's feelgood bullshit to provide the normos with instant gratification. Extroverts aren't human.

>>38819993
No, I'm a male and notice this. In the Western culture women are supposed to think about makeup, fashion and pets.

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>>38819032
>i am such a lazy cunt i would kill to be a woman because that would make my laziness even easier and more profitable
Full blown retardation, we are talking about down levels here not just normal tismos and burgers
But then again this is a bait thread and it's only purpose is to rile people up and get those (you)'s because it is the only thing that matters in your hollow life, here you go boy, have a (you)

>>38819032
I do only because my personality and my body are exact opposites and it makes my life hell. I can attract a girl easy as shit but they are only attracted to my money and my looks. They absolutely hate my submissive personality. They get angry as all hell when they cant change me too. One flipped shit and destroyed my childhood teddy bear because it was "disgusting" that a man still slept with a teddy bear.

On the opposite side a ton of guys are really interested in my personality because I cook well, love to do house hold chores, can sew, and I basically act and can do everything a stereotypical 60 wife can do. But they are absolutely not interested in my body. I'm far to manly. The guys that are interested in me are all submissives like I am and a relationship between two submissives rarely works.

I've tried changing both things about me and failed. Puberty did its job to well and even HRT wont change that. When I try and change my personality I am just perpetually unhappy. I just love cleaning to much. Its like meditation to me.

>>38820000
Wrong. INTP has barely any cons, and ENTP should be the perfect type but it's not because muh all types are equal!!!

>>38820005
>Try me
Why would I waste my time, brainlet? I'd only share it with someone who's worth it, which is why no one will ever see it.

>>38820029
And men are expected to think about sports & beer. Are you serious?

>>38820044
What is a submissive personality like?

>>38820059
>"yeah I have something"
>"b-but I won't show it to you, b-b-brainlet"
>"I totally have it, I swear"
Whatever, pleb.

>>38819387
>Nah, you're wrong. I've wanted to lose my virginity for more than 10 years and no one has taken me up on it irl. Not that I try anymore.
post
location

The fact of the matter is what you are saying can ONLY be your own fault

>>38820092
>sub 140 iq brainlet wants me to show him my perfect system
>can't comprehend that he would never, ever understand it for it's too complex for his brainlet brain
>acts surprised because I don't want to show it to him
You had your chance to impress me, and you failed. Fucking brainlet.

>>38820077
I cant really say for everyone my my sex drive is completely dependent on my partner. If they don't seek it out I don't have one. I want someone that may ask me where I want to eat out at and what movie to go see but we both know and love that ultimately its up to them. The pick what house we buy, they decide what we do, they are in control of the relationship and where it goes. This is mostly because I am for lack of a better term addicted to pleasing. I want to do everything I can for my partner and to make them happy. If they aren't vocal about their wants I get lost and don't know what to do from there the relationship just crashes and burns.

The only thing I cant budge on is that I have to be the primary home maker. I'm not even talking not having a job. I'll work 8 hours and still come home and clean the house and cook dinner.

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>>38820146
You can't show that which doesn't exist, brainletmongler.

>>38820146
Hi, different person here. Question: I'm top of my class in two degrees but they're both meme degrees. Well I assume Arts is considered meme tier
Does this qualify me as a brainlet or am I just average?

I am incredibly jealous of my sister

>>38819873

I'm going to be very careful here since the internet likes shitting on my face whenever I say this. But I'll say it again.
I don't agree with seeing women as sex objects, it's not right. But, women have a responsibility not to make themselves into sex objects. That also means not doing it for Chad. That's the huge roadblock we hit, every time.
So take it or leave it. I'm not expecting anybody or anything to change, but women need to hold themselves to universal standards of respect and then and only then will things get better in that regard. But women just can't stop being slaves for Chad or effeminate young prettyboy types, it's just their biology.

>>38819062
At least I'd get to 30+ mark

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>>38820185
>assume Arts is considered meme tier
You don't have to assume facts.
Also, if you have an extensive general knowledge and a solid understanding of the STEMs, you might actually not be a brainlet (which is doubtful in your case).

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>>38820059
INTP is the least happy personality type, so being realistic is a clear con for the person itself. And most of the initial progress in the world is caused by INTPs such as Darwin, Einstein and Marie Curie, but if you aren't an actual genius then the traits aren't of any use. It's of no use that you develop your philosophical theories when you are in 99.9% of the cases supposed to work without thinking anything.

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>>38820261
Thanks for the brutally honest appraisal.
Though, I should've expected such an answer.
C'est la vie, anon.

>>38819140
>getting sex and relationships is only easy if you are good looking
Men are 100% willing to get with unattractive women, the problem is even major uggo whores have absurdly high standards and don't even think about dating someone who's below a 7. Lower your standards and you'll find success.
>society shuns you if you aren't a mother or if you are single past the age of 25
Yeah, if you live in the middle east maybe.. Here in the west, society promotes promiscuity if anything.
>unrealistic expectations are placed on you to look perfect at all times
Expectations that you set upon yourselves. You don't have to look perfect if you don't want to. The only ones who'd care would be your roastie whore friends.
>only valuable lifeskill is being able to show tits for money, but even then it's only if they look good
Women are getting admitted to jobs regardless of qualifications these days. You can be basically a certifiable retard and still get a career in anything.

Overall there's little to no downsides being a woman. Society doesn't expect you to be superman, looks aren't completely detriment as to whether or not you remain single, you don't have to work hard for anything, people shower you in attention and gifts, it's basically life on easymode. Count your blessings.

>>38819734
>Cute and shy
Aka I was that weird tumblr chick no one wanted to be around. Just tell it like it is.

>>38820183
>he believes that something doesn't exist just because he doesn't have a proof.
This is exactly why I'll never show my perfect theory to you.

>>38820185
It doesn't matter because formal education is a joke. But you're still a massive faggot for studying arts and I hope thugs will beat you up once you end up homeless.

>>38819646
>That's what I do, but it's not that simple. People expect you to act a certain way. If you don't, everything is much much harder.

I know this pain all to well. I'm in the opposite boat. People expect me to be this strong dominant in control guy and I'm just not. I've had so many girls leave me just for "You aren't the man I though you were." I fucking hate social norms and expectations all it serves to do is ruin my life.

>>38819754
>You're forced to notice how shittily-designed everything is

Holy fuck this. I fucking HATE working minimum wages jobs because everything is so fucking inefficient. It annoys me so fucking much looking at a system and knowing if they just changed one aspect it would work way fucking better. But I know it never will because these shity systems are designed for retarded lazy employees that would sleep behind a box if they could get away with it.

>>38820062
Most men indeed think only of beer and sports, but it's not a similar expectation. No one is ever surprised that I have a penis and wonder about whether the Kantian imperative is a good thing or not and is it possible to reach the end of the universe or not. However, if a woman thinks about similar things the combination of vagina and deep thought is surprising.

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>>38820314
Assessed without proof = dismissed without proof, brainletosuar.

>>38820359
>hitchen's razor
anon, STOP BEING SUCH A BRAINLET RIGHT NOW!

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>>38819032
As I am now, I would much rather be a woman than a man. I'm ugly in every way and have no redeeming qualities. I cant really improve my physical shape either, because I have a fuckton of body problems. If aliens were to come down to earth and see me as an example of humanity, they would wipe us all out as a form of mercy. However, despite how heavily society favors women to men, if I were just a slightly above average Joe, I'd definitely prefer to be a man. Men are naturally more ambitious than women and if I had above average looks and intelligence, I'd actually be able to do something worth while with my life. But as it is now, I'll just settle with living in my room never to interact with the outside world.

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>>38820392
But it's the truth, cranium-let

>>38820444
Absolutely not. It doesn't determine whether something is true or not, it just asserts that the burden of proof lies with the one who makes the claim.

So it's perfectly possible that it does exist, but I don't want to show it to you because you have not impressed me, brainlet.

>>38820505
>burden of proof lies with the one who makes the claim
Might that be... you, faggor?

>>38820521
Ye, dat me. I don't feel burdened to prove anything to you, though.

But maybe we could make a compromise, brainlet?

>>38819449
Hurr durr I'm so smart. But I hangout with stupid people instead of other smart people because then I'd know what a brainlet I really am.

>>38820306
No, just an introverted anime dork. Tumblr didn't exist when I was younger.. and I wasn't actually cute. Just in retrospect I was cuter than I am now.


>>38820302
>people shower you in attention and gifts

If you actually believe that all women are treated like little princesses who get presents and praise then you are sorely mistaken. I have never been praised or given special treatment and I have never been showered in anything, especially not with attention. Also, my standards are and always have been exceptionally low. I usually go for guys that no one else wants because I think I might have a chance with them.


I'm not trying to be argumentative, but it really is baffling that so many of you believe that all women are given special treatment. I'll give it to you that pretty girls are treated like goddesses, but normal girls and especially ugly ones are ignored and treated as subhuman. If even one robot understands this I will be happy.

>>38820556
If you are smart you are always going to hang with stupid people too. You just must search intelligent people to debate with and friend zone.

>>38820847
I would draw the line so that normal looking young women are also treated as goddesses, only ugly young women is the exception - albeit they still can get laid whenever they want to.

>>38820847
>Never been showered in anything
Okay

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>>38819449
Can you be my gf and bully me for beeing better at everything despite beeing a girl?

>>38820847
You need to still have the right environment. If you go to a party or bar, you will be get laid automatically sooner or later. If you just write on 4chan then it's unlikely that you get showered with attention.

>>38820847
>If you actually believe that all women are treated like little princesses who get presents and praise then you are sorely mistaken
Not him, but i don't have to believe it. I know it, because i've literally been a girl myself. Fake online dating accounts, talking to guys. No matter how bitchy, dismissive, boring, demanding you are, guys will just take it and give you attention. A lot of them genuinely nice and friendly.

>>38819032
>getting sex and relationships is like choosing off a menu
fuck off, no decent man will want you if you act like a whore and fuck a new dude every week

t. conservative

>>38820847
>I have never been showered in anything, especially not with attention
>girls like you and >>38819449 and >>38819140 have the most (You)'s ITT

Really makes you think doesn't it.

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>>38819032
I'll never wish I was born a woman. I like the thought of knowing that any job I land, anything I earn or win is because of my skill in that field and my personality, not just because I have an ass

>>38821078
>cuckservative
annihilate yourself.

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>>38821097
If you're a normalfag then that's completetly understadable but robots that are on the bottom of the barrel would greatly benefit from beeing a woman because of much lower expectations for them.
Suddenly beeing shy and not confident is not a big deal anymore, you can become a housewife and nobody bats a eye, all your nerd hobbys make you quirky and interesting and so on and forth.
There are literally endless advantages to beeing a woman in a first world country.

i just wish I was a qt kemono shota desu

>>38821173
I should have added that point in my post, I admit I am somewhere between cyborg and normalfaggot. For real robots though it is understandable.

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>>>38821095
>>I have never been showered in anything, especially not with attention
>>girls like you and >>38819449 and >>38819140 have the most (You)'s ITT
>
>Really makes you think doesn't it.
quoted for truth
fembot threads = 250-500 posts
women can be as retarded or bitchy as they want & men will still feed them attention

>>38821040
Now when I come to think of it I've made also a fake online account and was shocked by the attention. 5/5 muscular good-looking males shared readily their facial pictures and so on even though I didn't even have a face in the profile but just a naked body found in a Tor board (so that it won't show up in reverse image search). Many of the males were black men with large penises btw.

>>38821241
You fugged them right?

>>38819032
This thread sux my dick, but it reminds that i have thought recsntly how much easier my life would be if i was a chick.
I could just stream vidya, and be a NEET, maybe get a cute dyke gf or something.

>get to dress up in cute clothes
>can be as perverted as you want
>socially acceptable to have as much sex as you want
>get to have tits and ass

I've wished I was a girl since I was little

Yes.
>free college
>you look good doing just about anything because expectations are set so low
>nobody cares if your khhv
>huge amounts of sympathy from society

>>38819757
I have met exactly two in my entire lifetime.

>>38820266
ILE (ENTP, Ne-Ti) here, it's pretty shit desu. I'm a disgousting creature with no morals.

>>38821108
dunno why you'd rather have liberal roasties for women instead of pure conservative maidens

>>38822084
>pure conservative maiden
*tips*

sex is not evil, cuckservative anon. stop having a madonna complex.

>>38822318
hope you're happy using Chad's washed up cumrag, because that's all the poon you're gonna get in liberal paradise land.

>>38822392
>hope you're happy using Chad's washed up cumrag
im not using anyone, people are not my property. im not a virgin, and I don't see why id want a virgin.

>>38822392
I wish I was born a guy so I could beat my dick and do stuff that requires strength. Also I could have better friendships.

>>38822482
Whoops I meant to quote
>>38819032

>>38819692
No ones going to call you a prude for not having sex thats the jew in your head

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>>38822463
You're one of these guys aren't you

I wish I were a 10/10 white woman married to a billionaire white guy, who I could give daughters and sons to, 3 of each, married to him when i'm 18 so I'm done having my children by the time I am 30.

From then on my understanding husband, our duties done would allow me to have discreet sex under 30 black bulls with 9 inch BBCs abroad whilst my husband could fuck ladyboys whilst maintaining the illusion that we are a happy couple that haven't become bored of eachover.