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>most weebs are liberal >said weebs fail to realize that

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>most weebs are liberal
>said weebs fail to realize that Japan has a strict, highly conservative, authoritarian, conformist culture
>when they try living in Japan it hits them like a sack of bricks that they're not special to anyone over there, won't be treated as an individual and have to follow a fuckton of rules just like everyone else
>said weebs end up hating Japan
Why is this so fucking common?
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Idk you'd think this would be apparent to them right away. East Asia doesn't seem like a fun place to visit at all, in fact I can't think of anywhere I'd like to travel to other than somewhere in Funland where I can just see the northern lights and get drunk in the snow.
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i think weebs are probably pretty aware of japan's culture. i had thought it was kinda common knowledge

except for children and the stupidest people i guess
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>>38730376
That girl looks like my cousin
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rollin back dat foreskin
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Queen Weeb
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>have to follow a fuckton of rules just like everyone else

You don't have to, though. People will hate you for it, but if you can stay strong you will get away with it, and you will be mentally healthier as a result.

To stay sane in Asia, you have to maintain a sort of colonial mentality. Trying to conform is madness and no-one will give you any credit for trying anyway.
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>>38731208
>still going for the dyke kike
I feel sorry for you
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japan conservative

>Universal healthcare
>Strict gun control
>massive social progrand for the elderly,poor, and mentally ill.

Their conservative isn't the same as our conservative.
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>>38730376
Look at those soulless, insectoid stare in her eyes. Cold, biting in her food - she's not actually enjoying it, she's just feeding herself before going back to her daily life, toiling away for the greater good.
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>>38731518
That's kinda rude man
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>>38731518
In her defense, rice balls are shit without good filling
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>>38731495
every conservative is different depending on which culture they come from
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>>38731251
at what level is your mastery of the japanese language sir?
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>>38730376
>>most weebs are liberal

Idk I'm pretty sure anime is redpilled.
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>>38731495
Convenient how you forgot to mention
>absolutely fucking dispose migrants
>openly racist/xenophobic as hell
>women are still expected to be subservient to men. Literally 1940a American housewife tier
>laws on degeneracy like drug use is extremely strict, courts have 95% conviction rate on all crimes
>gays/trans/etc are all viewed like giant clowns for entertainment purposes. No one takes them seriously
>the whole gender identity crisis bullshit is non existent
>retards/people with seriously debilitating diseases are hidden from public when families are expected to put them in Looney bins or never let them see the light of day from their rooms
I work in Yokohama but feel free to tell me I'm wrong.
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>>38731559
salmon or plum is best desu
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>>38731575
Joe zoo amirite

>>38731567
What I've always wondered is why white people who go to Asia feel obliged to be excessively respectful and deferential in a way they don't in other parts of the world. Apologetic, even.

You don't see tourists or even residents in Latin America or the Middle East or Africa or whatever really giving two fucks about speaking the language or "not seeming like a sexpat" or whatever, but put a white man in a rice-nibbling country with little yellow people and suddenly he's stuttering into his noodles about how much he loves their quaint, developed culture and bowing repentantly that he isn't fluent in their language 5 minutes after getting off the plane.
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>>38731586
Awesome! Sign me up.
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>>38731586
>openly racist/xenophobic as hell

You forgot to mention fucking hypocrites.

They'll give you a one-hour lecture about how they ate at a shitty fast food restauranto and it wasn't delicious and somehow that entitles them to say all Western food sucks, but if you dare make even the teeny tiniest criticism of their culture like mentioning that you happen not to like one convenience store's brand of rice ball, it's all wai you insuruto mai groriusu karutoru

That's exactly why you can't play the game of even bothering to try and act respectful to them, because you will get no credit or benefit from it. Don't get me fuckin started.
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>>38731627
belly full of vitriol?
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>>38731711
i say ass rape every last one of them.
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>>38731716
You know exactly what I'm talking about though right? There's something about East Asia that makes most Westerners lose their spines totally in a way that doesn't seem to happen anywhere else, not even in other supposedly "strict" cultures like in the UAE or Saudi Arabia.
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Two nukes were definitely not enough
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>>38731582
>escapist medium
>redpilled
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>>38731793
oh i'm with ya - i spent nine years in san francisco - that was bad enough
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>>38731627
Japan and other Asian cultures like Singapore, Korea etc. just beat everybody into the dirt to be fair though, regardless of their nationality or race. You need a mind of granite in order not to let them mess with your head.
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>>38730431
culture? all weebs know about Japan is their fucking anime, so they think that Jap life merely revolves around it
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>>38731852
What's bad about San Francisco?
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>>38731586

>women are still expected to be subservient to men

Yet they are more dominant than ever, thath's why Japanese men prefer to jack off to waifus instead of getting laid and having kids

>openly racist/xenophobic as hell

Only the elder, adults and young people are tolerant at least with educated people.
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>>38731627

Because Asians do the kow-towing first.

Like all the time. So white people that visit follow suit to fit in.
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>>38731586
Half of these aren't even bad things, you're just a cuck.
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Let us not forget about the great pornography of Japan.
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>>38730402

I'm sure it's a lovely place to visit. An interesting culture that is so far away from our own that it is practically alien to us, where you can buy used girl's underwear in vending machines and the amputated, silicone bodies of 4 year old boys to put your wiener in. But even as an anime watching, nippon game industry loving, fat retarded faggot I still wouldn't want to live in Japan.
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>>38731888
Ironically, both Japan and South Korea have terrifyingly extreme feminist movements now.

>>38731903
It's kinda stupid, though. You will never be one of them, so you don't get the meagre group benefits that come with be a good little drone. Better to just be you, even if you do speak their moonlanguage or whatever. For one thing, shuffling and bowing and all that shit will make you sexually invisible just like them.
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>>38731872
I worked with and ran around with a lot of Japanese and Chinese individuals. Second generation mind ya, but man-o-man those fools are kind of foolish.
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>>38730376
Weebs don't even exist anymore.

And while Japan is conservative etc. in several ways it isn't universally so, and there is conservatism in Western societies too..

>>38731586
>openly racist/xenophobic as hell
Yet when Westerners are openly racist and xenophobic, it's not counted as racism and xenophobia.

>women are still expected to be subservient to men. Literally 1940a American housewife tier
No.

>>38731824
It's not an escapist medium, and fantasy etc. are not mutually exclusive with being "redpilled."
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Japan really is hilariously and often times disturbingly backwards. Thankfully when I lived there for about a year it seemed like the younger generation are much more tolerant and progressive than the older ones. They were much more open to foreigners, immigration, LGBT rights, etc. Sadly most of the times this is how progress is really made in society: waiting for backwards old fucks to die out so the newer generation can push things forward. I really do think we'll see Japan modernize and become more like the US, UK, Canada, etc. in our lifetimes. Which is really nice because Japan really is a nice country, it's just ruled by a bunch of backwards old fucks.
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>>38731954

Nope, it makes you polite and culturally sensitive.

sexual attraction comes down to looks.
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>>38731954
What terrifyingly extreme feminist movement is there in Japan?

>>38731992
> I really do think we'll see Japan modernize and become more like the US, UK, Canada, etc. in our lifetimes.
That would be disastrous.
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>>38730431

You're mixing up "people who like anime and japanese developed video games" with "weebs". Weebs are completely blind to any problem that Japan might have and think that the entire country is just like one of their Japanese animes. People who like anime and nippon games are well aware that Japan is a shit hole where people would rather die sitting upright in their office chair than with their family because showing disloyalty to whatever shitty company you work for by not being there would be too dishonarabru. And that they have to put up signs warning small children that there's molesters out on the streets. And it's a regular occurrence for women to get their vaginas touched on trains because all the men are sexually repressed virgins who spend so much time at work they never get to have sex with their wife.
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>>38732002
Excessive politeness is basically fedora-tipping submissiveness = unattractive. Sexual attraction doesn't come down to looks, it also heavily reflects behavior, particularly in men. Aggression is attractive.

>>38732008
>What terrifyingly extreme feminist movement is there in Japan?

It's not as vocal as in Korea, but it's terrifyingly easy to end up arrested for sexual harassment and other sex crimes now (did you brush that woman's ass on a train? Pervert! Did you look at that female coworker too long and smile? Sexhara!). An excessively lax attitude in the past has now swung into an excessive panic about it. Japan has the worst of traditionalism and feminism rolled up into one.
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>>38731992
>wanting to see japans crime rates skyrocket
are you retarded?
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>>38731992
Not even gonna take that bait
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>>38732066

You can be polite but not submissive. It's not submissive to bow, well it is, but if you both do it per cultural expectations, then it puts you on even footing under a different mood.
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am a weeb, want to movie to japan and want to pretend to be part of the machine until i inevitably jump in front of a train
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The whole kow-towing thing encourages honest conversation after you both do it.

But I see how that's not sexy.
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>>38730376
Im a weeb and pretty right leaning. Idolize Japan for being basically a first world ethnostate that I want to exist for white people. Poland is the closest thing but its just not quite there.
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>>38732045
>People who like anime and nippon games are well aware that Japan is a shit hole
That some people watch anime and think that Japan is a shithole does not give their views some kind of credibility.

>And that they have to put up signs warning small children that there's molesters out on the streets
As far as I know there are less sex crimes against children in Japan than in Western countries, and I've never heard of anything like the Rotherham scandal happening there. Or the government gleefully importing mass amounts of people who are known to have a fondness for rape and pedophilia.

>And it's a regular occurrence for women to get their vaginas touched on trains because all the men are sexually repressed virgins who spend so much time at work they never get to have sex with their wife.
Hysterical exaggeration.

>>38732066
Well they have had groping problems on trains, and you are talking about just a single thing here. America has systemic feminist problems all over the place.
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>>38732118
In cultures like Japan, you have to "offset" any form gesture of politeness like bowing all the time and hiding your emotions with actual gestures of superiority and power like having money and psychologically bullying inferiors etc. if you don't want to be treated as a subordinate/inferior.

You literally would have to to learn to act the way the most bitchy cliquey high school girls do in the West.

For most Western people particularly guys but also women too, this is too complicated annoying and mind-gamey, and it's easier just to say fuck it and behave the way they would at home.
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>>38731518

Yes, she ought to relish her food. Like these fair free American maidens.
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>>38732155
You sound like an ignorant faggot
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>>38732181
>For most Western people
Just be polite and adopt the most common customs, it's not that hard Jesus Christ
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>>38732181

I can't speak for Japan, but in Korea you just do it once when you first meet. It's just a cultural greeting that encourages honest and open communication because you both bow to each other.

Maybe Japan is different.
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>>38732212
I don't mean bowing alone, but language stuff. Since you're expected to constantly make expressions of humility as a matter of course, in order not to lose self-respect entirely the expectation is that you find more and more creative ways to humble-brag. This is a shared cultural feature of East Asia but is strongest in Korea and Japan, less so in China.
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>>38732158

Japan's the only country in world stupid enough to think that the solution to a record low birth rate is to make people work 45 hours a week.
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>>38732258
"""""work""""

They're not even working which is the craziest part. It's a fuckin charade.
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>>38732205
Ignorant faggots? On r9k? naah.
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>>38732251

Hmmm. I've seen this in with my dad's friends, they'll humble brag.

Then multiply that with a whole continent, I can see what you mean.

Who doesn't humble brag though?

Maybe it's more annoying when Asians humble brag.
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>>38732258
People all over the world make stupid decisions. Many Western countries have decided that the solution to low birthrates (which, according to most people, is only a problem in Japan) is to flood their countries with people from Africa and the Middle East. This doesn't actually solve the birth rate issue, it just replaces the original population with a completely new one. So it's much, much worse than whatever mistakes Japan is making.
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Ok I know what you mean.

Like how Asian men will take turns humble bragging in a circle? And you're expected to remain silent while this goes on.

I've seen this at church social gatherings.

Again other people do it too, maybe it's just more annoying when Asians do it.
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>>38732258
>45 hours a week
You mean more than that. Also, the government should actually incentivize the citizens to marry and make babies with tax deductions and tax credits.
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>>38731904
where did I say it was bad you massive fag?

>>38731980
Yes they are. My gf cooks and cleans for me daily. Gives me massages whenever I want. When I get home from work she pours me beer and tells me to play vidya and relax while she does chores. Gives me condoms when I go on business trips '' in case I meet anyone'' All of my friends with Japanese wives report the same thing.
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>>38732402
Humble-bragging alone is not that bad I guess. What's shitty and more sinister though is the way people feel like they have to constantly cut each other down, even when they're just fucking drones in an office or doing some shitty blue-collar job it's like fucking "Rome" or "Game of Thrones", these people will act in a normal shitty workplace the way say cutthroat people in corporate management, elite finance, politics or literal geopolitics do in the West.

Maybe that sounds cool but in the real world it's fuckin retarded. They're headcases.
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>>38732458
>Yes they are.
No.
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>>38732413

Yeah but flooding the west with niggers and arabs is a Jewish idea to punish the west for letting the holocaust happen, by wiping out all the whites. Japan is just being fucking retarded without inside influence.
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>>38732470

Oh you lost me. Maybe it's an English teacher thing.

If you wanna give details I can try to guess Asian motives but as it is you lost me.
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>>38732482
Whites are doing it to themselves, don't try to weasel your way out of this by blaming it on da jooz.

It's relatively trivial for Japan to change things like work culture. Now what about all the third worlders that have settled in the West?
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Weeb here- traditionalism and conservativism are two aspects I really admire about the Japanese.
I also understand that racial homogeny is important for both, so even if I won a free trip, I'd never step foot in Japan.
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>>38732520
>Weeb here- traditionalism and conservativism are two aspects I really admire about the Japanese.
I also understand that racial homogeny is important for both, so even if I won a free trip, I'd never step foot in Japan.

You're hopelessly retarded. I don't even need a doctor to know that you have autism.
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>>38732476
t. Virgin who's maybe visited tokyo for a week and thinks he knows what he's talking about because he visited Womb or Ageha and saw all of the club sluts.
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>>38732520
Do you seriously think tourists threaten Japan's racial homogeny?

>>38732537
Whether or not I'm a virgin is irrelevant. Whether or not I've visited Tokyo is irrelevant.
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Ok. I see the picture.

White English teachers in Asia have a hell of a time establishing social dominance.

And without social dominance, it sucks.

My advice would be to avoid the higher society, and pick your battles with their rebellious crowd.

But even with those you won't be able to establish social dominance as white English teacher in Asia, but maybe you could break even and get yours.
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>>38732518

We just have to wait for the native population to get bored of the diversity shit train and vote for proper right wingers and then start dragging them out of their homes and shooting them in the face. ez.


>>38732520

Nigger just because you admire that they're not filled with shitskins and niggers doesn't mean you have to avoid ever going there. As xenophobic as people say Japan is, they still have a tourism industry that brings money into their economy.
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>>38732556
I'm telling you i'm more educated on the status of Japanese women because i've lived in the fucking country for years, am fluent in the language and have a japanese gf. Go be a MGTOW faglord somewhere else.
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>>38732520
This is what I was talking about here
>>38731627

What is it that makes (some) Western people act like such toadies around East Asians or even on the subject of East Asians. Even Latinboos or Muslimboos, hell even Jewboos have more self-respect and confidence.
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Asians love a good bard.
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>>38732560
>White English teachers in Asia have a hell of a time establishing social dominance.

Why would it be harder for them than English teachers outside of Asia?

And it's not just English teachers in Asia that act like this: soldiers, businessmen and even tourists who are giving these people there money act in this fuckin weird, cringey way.
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>>38732577
You live in a bubble of anecdotes and bias like so many other people who think they have perfect objective knowledge of all things Japan because they live there, have lived there or have visited there.

There are many people in America who claim the country is an oppressive patriarchy where women have to struggle for human rights.

>Go be a MGTOW faglord somewhere else.
Where did I express any MGTOW ideas?
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>>38732556
>Do you seriously think tourists threaten Japan's racial homogeny?
Yes, they fuck shit up for people trying to live daily Japanese lives.
Vacations are fun, but I think we've all really gotten out of hand when it comes to international tourists.
Tourists cause rabble, confusion, culture clash, etc when they go somewhere different enough from their homeland, it's not worth the economic boost.
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>>38732613
Can confirm this about soldiers, certainly here in Korea. These people would literally be killed in the event of a war, and yet Koreans have somehow managed to bully them into feeling like they are shitty bad people and that they have to tiptoe around and watch what they say and do around Koreans.
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>>38732620
I've worked and studied in the country for years and one of my degrees was in Japanese which involved reading mountains of japanese textbooks about modern japanese history, religion, society etcetra. Please tell me how you're more informed than I am on the subject
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>>38732613

Being an English teacher in Asia is a popular job at the moment, but it's not a permanent job.

The salary for teaching English in Asia is pretty fixed too, and it's mid level at best.

Its sand under your feet. Most white men in Asia are English teachers, and if they aren't, they're immigrants without citizenship or permanent status.

It's mostly an immigration status thing.
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>>38732585
it's also fucked up when a busload of Chinks is shuttled about Spain and they start shitting everywhere and eating dogs.
All nations would do well to have limitations on tourist flow, and to require that tourists keep in touch with their embassies.
International Travel has gotten bloated and decadent- the madness fucks with cities of industry and well-meaning smaller communities.
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>>38732668
>Please tell me how you're more informed than I am on the subject
I am by virtue of the fact that I am right and you are wrong, regardless of how much experience you claim to have.
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>>38732699
Everything about English teachers in Asia is true of English teachers on other continents and places, like in Latin America or the Middle East. The same is true of people with temporary immigration status in other places.

And yet you don't get the same cultural cringe from expats from any line of work including English teaching the way you do in East Asia.

So that's not a good explanation, something else is at work here.
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In decades past when Asia wasn't as culturally big as they are today, English teachers and American soldiers were much less of a common sighting and they were treasured for their presence in Asia.

But decades later, and many visitors later (for teaching or other stuff), that novelty has worn off for the locals.

I speculate.
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>>38731586
>>women are still expected to be subservient to men. Literally 1940a American housewife tier
Women are the ones who wear the pants and hit on men.
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>>38732762

Latin America and the Middle East is much more dangerous to teach English in - with exceptions in places with high HDI like Chile and Argentina.

That's straying from the topic. The cultural cringe (white people being subservient to Asians in Asia), I don't know man.

I think it's an immigration status thing.
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>>38732811
>I think it's an immigration status thing.

You think what is an immigration status thing?
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>>38730376
>liking japanese culture = liking everything about japan
That's the equivalent of liking K-pop and subsequently defecting to North Korea.
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>>38732860

The subservience you're talking about from white people in Asia to Asians stems from being immigrants to Asia.
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>>38732917
What's different about being an immigrant to Asia compared to being an immigrant to other continents and places, like Latin America, Africa, or the Middle East?
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>>38732940

In Africa or the Middle East, white immigrants go there to rebuild or to build a new society, like South Africa for example. Excluding Latin America.

In Asia, white people go there to experience living in Asia or to marry a local and assimilate into the host nation.

But most white people go back home after a few hours of teaching.
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>>38733006

Years* I meant years lel. But hours too.
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>>38733006
>In Asia, white people go there to experience living in Asia

That doesn't sound so different from teaching English for a few years in say, Argentina, Dubai, Italy, or Morocco. Sure there are English teachers working for the experience in real shitholes like Brazil or the Congo or some shit, but there are poor countries in Asia too like Cambodia.

Most of the places people teach English regardless of continent are the more prosperous parts because that's where the jobs are.

I don't think what you're saying holds any water.

There's also the fact that this cringe phenomenon extends to non-English teachers as well like soldiers and tourists.
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>mfw someone unironically defends japan's shit wageslave culture
>mfw someone thinks they'll make it in japan, even though they haven't made it in their home country
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>>38733089

I'm lost. I haven't heard anything about teaching English in those countries you've mentioned.

Tbh talking about cringe phenomenon makes me cringe a little bit.
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>>38733123
There are English teaching opportunities in virtually any moderately prosperous non-English speaking country.

I don't see what's wrong with talking about this. It's very curious phenomenon.
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>>38733160

It's not wrong to talk about it, not at all. I've speculated as much as I could but here I'm at my speculation's end because I don't know anything about teaching English in the nations you mentioned.

Good luck.
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>>38730402
If you really want to see northern lights in Finland, you need to go to Lapland. Dunno about time of the year tho.
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>>38731586
Excellent. Sounds like utopia.
You need to go back to your own country though. You're literally part of japan's growing immigration crisis.
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East Asians are incapable of true emotion. They have been bred and conditioned over many generations to be soulless, subservient automatons whose only purpose is to work. They're fed bullshit like "honor" to keep them in line and prevent them from thinking unproductive things. They are taught that one who does not work is one who is dishonorable and should be shunned. East Asians do not make families put of love, but out of obligation, because they are told that it is the "honorable" thing to do. They are incapable of enjoyment or leisure. They are incapable of happiness, sadness, or anger. They just exist.
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>>38732458
>Gives me condoms when I go on business trips '' in case I meet anyone'' All of my friends with Japanese wives report the same thing.

This seems pretty far fetched mane, can anyone else confirm this?
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>>38733277
Of course it's the West that has the real immigration crisis, but if we project the problem onto Japan instead then surely the problem disappears.

>>38733358
This is all total bullshit. Are you mentally ill?
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>>38733358
>>38733388

It's just leftist rhetoric propaganda .
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>>38732482
>Arabs hate jews more than anything
>The smart crafty jew thinks it's a good idea to spread them everywhere

Why are you pol tinfoils so retarded?
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>>38733277
>japan's growing immigration crisis.

You mean those 3 refugees they let in once and forced to leave?
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>>38733388
>it needs to be one or the other
I can accept the fact that europe is getting overtaken, but you'd have to be in some serious denial to think that japan isn't getting insidiously overrun by foreigners and will eventually meet the same fate as europe.
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>>38733528
You are just projecting a Western issue onto Japan. That's about all people seem to do these days.
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>>38733474

Yea man, they had burn down the entire airport and excavate a 5 meter deep layer of soil to make sure there was no gajin filth remaining.
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>>38730376
>weebs
>liberal
have we been browsing the same mongolian throat singing board or what
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>>38733474
I mean the mass immigration of chinese, korean, WHITE (yes, whites can be niggers too), black, and latino weebs who use the globalism is good meme to justify their yellow fever. Arab refugees are the least of japan's problems. It's the sexual and cultural refugees--i.e. you.
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>>38733579
Like most losers, weebs tend to be extremists either they are fags who wanna be Japanese or they're Nazi morons who love them because of their immigration policies totally ignoring the fact that they're soulless Japs
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>>38733617

>Arab refugees aren't a problem

Hmm
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>>38732529
t. yellow fever weeb that wants to live in japan
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>>38733579
>>38733618
>>38733650
Weebs don't exist.

blox
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>>38733544
It's literally happening. I have no idea how you can continue to deny it after looking at their immigration policies becoming increasingly more lax.
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>>38733639
They are, they just pale in comparison to the hordes of weebs who try to move there every year.
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>>38732529
not that anon, but calling someone retarded is not a legitimate argument. Your reply only serves to retard the debate. you fucking retard
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>>38733693
You are literally projecting a Western problem onto Japan in the hopes that that will somehow make it go away.
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>>38731586
The last one is the only genuine issue. Having a disability you cannot control shouldn't bar you from participating in society, especially since you can still be functional with a minor handicap. People who are deaf, blind, amputee, etc. can work around that and contribute just as much as anyone else. It's a genuine shame that Japanese culture prefers to sideline them.

Except for retards and autists, holy shit those need to be sidelined HARD. The blind kid doesn't mess with my concentration, but the actual fucking autist who's intent on mimicking the fire alarm has no goddamn place in school.
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>>38730376
Lots of westerners love perfectly happy lives in Japan.
Weebs fetishize a culture that theyve only viewed through escapist media. When the reality of the world isnt anime and you approach it as though it is the people from that culture will rightfully see you as pathetic and foolish.
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>>38730645
I wanna fuck your cousin
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