Buddist here. Ask me anything/meditation thread. How do you

stop, anon. You're going to summon him

you know who...

Buddhism sounds like the ultimate robot religion/philosophy, how do you meditate though, because whenever I make an attempt to, thoughts manifest as words in my head and distract me?

>>38584898
Pls give me meditation and buddism 101 real quick. Been meaning to get into these for a while I think I have the perfect mindset for them

>>38584963
Practice really but I can give you tips that help me.

instead of thinking, focus your concentration on these things and these things only

>Breath in through nose, out mouth
>When you breath in, let it fill uo your belly, not your chest, this is reduce how tense you are. This is to help you breath more natrually.
>Try as much as possible to have an erect back
>any thought or sounds or visuals you may have, let them pass you by. Pay no attention.
Like a old log floating down a river
>Bob Ross said that "People should strive to be like trees."
Sit tall, back erect, breath slowly, remain as still as possible. Be a tree
>Tai Chi encourages slow breathing. Breathing as slow as possible, yet comforatble for you may help you.

>>38585048
read my reply to the anon above for meditatiom 101.

Buddhism 101
>Life is suffering
>The cause of suffering is attachment
>It is possible to end this suffering, that is following the eightfold path
>Joy, Compassion, love
>Everything about you is basically a projection in your mind. All you have is your mind, and this body that really isnt even yours. Everything else "about you" is ego. Even your name, really. Lose it all as much as you can.

Only monks can do this perfectly

>>38584898
I'm slowly trying to get back on buddhist track, I have really bad Karma, made many errors in life, but I don't want to continue my life through perpetual misery. I've started with yoga to calm myself, but it will be challenging to start a regular meditation, my mind is always occupied with useless thoughts, making staying in present/mindfulness a difficult task. Do you have any advices on how to stop daydreaming and to focuss on what's now and here?

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Anyone books that I can read about it that you recommend?

>>38585221
Look into Taoism if you havent already. Great book btw, Tao of Pooh. Be like Pooh Bear.

Your problem sounds like mindfulness. I myself am working on it. I just make myself become really determined and make of my one goal of the day. Also at work, if you work, try to set your mind on one thing at a time.

The biggest pro tip is PRACTICE.

>>38584963
This guy >>38585080 has it all down in steps but all you really need is the intention to just be, on top of those methods to help you concentrate and not be distracted.. Do nothing but being distract you, listen to all the sounds of the world around you and remember that all that's just being as well.

You can really go places from there.

>>38584898
Do you do yoga as well?

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>>38585247
Tao te Ching. The Tao of pooh. 365 Tao.

There is also a book called...
The Teaching Of Buddha
read this. ALL OF IT.

>>38585247
This

Organic 4 secimonds

>>38585314
Doing Tai Chi atm but yes, I do yoga

>>38584898
I ditched Buddhism for Christianity a while back.

Detachment is good and all, but Buddhism wants you to detach for the sole purpose of detachment itself. It's just so you can stop caring about things so much, doesn't really provide any sort of coherent ontology or metaphysics. I will say that it did help me to actually notice my "Self" and not just my ego, meditation practice helped me engage in prayer easier too.

>>38585349
Im glad you found youre own path. I wish you all the luck in the world anon. stay happy.

>>38585160
I'm far too attached to things, I cried when I had to switch over from my decade old laptop last year. My greatest pains come from nostalgia, remembering a better time in my life, wanting only to go back. How do I ease/stop this? It won't solve all my problems but it is among my worse pains. I just don't cope with change well, 4 years later still haven't recovered from graduating High school.

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>>38584925
Please elaborate on who you're talking about.

>>38585368
Peace be with you too, but know that this earthly happiness is only temporal. Do not confuse mere happiness with truth, because there's no way to know ultimate, lasting happiness on this earth. In Christianity, we don't avoid suffering or cease it, but embrace it. We see it has purpose; in fact, all of our phenomenological sensations have a purpose and a proper application, they all point towards a higher truth and highlight our fallen state.

This place is not meant to be your tomb, and we aren't meant to die. I cannot force you to do anything, but I must let you know that there is much at stake.

>>38585409
Don't let go of the past and its heirlooms, just realize that now, not the past or the future, is the only thing that is real. You are living in a perpetual now broken by states of sleep, and if you know that then it helps with a lot of perspectives. Don't ignore little things for bigger pictures though either, a skilled person lives on two levels.

>>38585409

The buddha said once that "we are like monkeys swinging vine from vine, searching for our fruits of pleasure in an endless forest of conditioned events."

All thing are impermanent. Nothing is going last. Not the bad times. Not even the good times. They come and they go. Even more reason to not become attached. These fleeting moments, they are gone, like a car driving by and for some reason we cling to it.

There is no use chasing the past. It is long behind you.

There is no use grasping for the future, is it forever out of your reach.

All that is promised to you is the here and now.

Try to live your life for the second as if its your last, every second.

I cannot say anything else to possibly help. the rest depends on how much you are willing to let go of something.

>>38585479
dont think youre going to bait OP into christianty. from this thread so far hes seems like wise sage.

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these threads are always cringefests with fags subtly battling each other to see who can seem the most profound. fuck off desu

>>38585493
OP here. if anyone actually gives any cares about anything I say in this thread, just know that this post is cancer. pls ignore this guy

>>38585266
No, I haven't explored Taoism more than on a superficial level, I will though

>Your problem sounds like mindfulness. I myself am working on it. I just make myself become really determined and make of my one goal of the day. Also at work, if you work, try to set your mind on one thing at a time.

Mindfulness for sure. The fact that I'm a secluded NEET does't help at all with my determination, on the contrary I feel like it deteriorates my mind even more. I've been writing down some tasks on my to do list for almost each day since I've become a NEET, but seldom am I able to complete them all, I mostly give in to daydreaming, train of thought is often unbearable.

>>38585661
>these threads are soo cringy
>posts in that same thread

the world could have not gone on without your opinion. thanks.

>>38585688
You're gonna have to expand on that because it's the same thing I'm going to assume you posted the next post down.

>>38585688
UPDATE: OP HERE. I READ THAT POST WAY WRONG. MY BAD GUYS. Just roasted myself.

OP here

Im out. Im going to try to make these threads daily. I feel lile robots should to be opened up to these things.

also! if you are truly happy with yourself you are never lonley.
lose the ego! ego can make you feel bad OR good. self pity is ego.
greed and reputation is ego.
ego= me me me me me me
ego=meme

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>>38585160
Buddhist here too. I like how you used the word "attachment" instead of "desire" which is used more often when refering to buddhist philosophy. I think this mistranslation has shooed away too many people. It is very misleading when people read about buddhism and are told that having desires is bad, and they think all it's about that you shouldn't try to have nice things or to put any effort whatsoever. The problem is the attachment and the feeling of need, not the want to do things, get rid of those and pursue whatever you want.

>Life is suffering
Why? Life is beautiful!

>>38585247
Read The Power of Now, by Eckhart Tolle. I had been a buddhist for years and it wasn't until I read this book that I really understood out what meditation was about, before that it was always an exercise of hit and miss that only worked sometimes. He does a good job at explaining many religions both Eastern and Western, and what are many of its doctrines really based on versus the common interpretation people usually attribute them. It's a book so full of wisdom, and it's why this book became such a best seller without much publicity other than the initial mouth to mouth.

There is something in his writing when he explains the experiences of people in different situations that is very relatable and you can see he knows what he's talking about. For example he explains why people are addicted to and do extreme sports like climbing, racing, parachute jumping, etcetera. It's because the fear and danger make the mind shut up and concentrate in the present moment, to enter in a meditative state. There's many examples of situations you may have been where it may happened to you and that's very useful to read because you understand what is the state of mind you should aim to achieve in your everyday life through meditation.

That book is gold. You can get it at libgen.io ;^)

>>38585725
lmao you're clearly triggered. it's okay, most subjects that deal with mildly abstract concepts have this happen to them.

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>>38585247
Being Nobody, Going Nowhere by Ayya Khema
She stole the name of my eventual autobiography.
Also anything by Ajahn Chah is dope. He doesn't fuck around.

>>38585921
Also, forgot to mention it's really short. By what I've written about it one would think it's as thick as a dictionary but in reality all of that is condensed in barely two hundred pages.

Mind blowing book, really worth the time.

>>38584898

how long meditate before i start noticing benefits. 1 mnth?

>>38586346
A couple days or so if you know what you're doing. The effects on your everyday life are very immediate. For instance, do it before sleeping and you'll notice you wake up better rested, and with more discipline when you wake up. Do it in the morning after waking up and you'll notice you are more in control of your actions the rest of the day.

Meditation is not something only weirdos and monks in monasteries do, it is a form of mental exercise, that requires real effort but ends up paying well. That's why there are so many successful people that do it.

One month of consistent work at it would pretty much turn your life upside down, but it's hard to do if you aren't good at disciplining yourself to do something every day. But if you do it you'll be among the 1%.

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>>38584898
Have you tried setting yourself on fire?

>>38584898
Have you ever meditated on a drug? Any benefit?

I have 'schizoid personality disorder'
In my case it does not impair my life. I feel content, no issues with depression etc.

Basically my external personality is very similar to a buddhist monk who has detached from their ego. It's like a perverted or twisted version of an ego-less zen master personality if you will.

I do not really have an 'ego' and the associated negative emotions: I literally can't feel anger, depression, strong feelings. I'm very emotionally distant. I also do not willingly seek companionship, because I lack the part of the brain that makes one feel lonely. I haven't felt strong physical desires in years. I'm basically asexual. I can literally sit on my ass and do nothing the whole day, only feeling hunger, thirst, fatigue.

I find it quite interesting in an ironic way how my way of being is essentially very similar to a buddhist monk externally, yet society labels it a 'disorder' while revering said buddhist monks.

Do you think I can still benefit from meditation? I'm a very self-aware and introspective person and feel like I'm 'born with a ego-less brain' if you get what I'm saying.

>>38586617
Had to learn about schizoid in our psychiatry block and I thought it was pretty Zen desu. You should try meditating for the sake of mediation though, it's an interesting experience.

>>38585921
Eckhart Tolle is a retarded nigger

>>38586575
I haven't, but there is many people that do as there are many theories on how each kind of drug can accelerate the progress if used with the correct type of meditation. I think it's Timothy Leary the guy who did so much research on the drugs and their effects on the different parts of the brain and how they could be intelligently used. I would look up books from that guy if I were you (or Robert Anton Wilson, who explains his stuff even better than he does).
>>38586698
Cool opinion bro.

>>38584898
Christian here
I use a rosemary and prayer to meditate
I'm not Catholic but Lutheran (the real kind not that crazy shit in burger land)
We normally don't use a rosemary but some monks thought using a rosemary for prayer might help the believer

>>38587408
I'm gonna guess you mean a rosary, which is perfect or meditation. Watts said that synchronising breathing with the passing beads makes for a well timed meditation session by the time you reach the last bead.

>>38584898
Ganja is like natures steroids for deep mediation.

>>38587744
Double dubs confirm, smoking cannabis recreationally as a depressed teenager is what gave me the sudden realization that somethings going on here.

Cannabis is fantastic for abstract ideas, mental barrier breaking and network realizing. It makes everything fantastic as well but that isn't its best influence. Just don't lose yourself in it, not because being in a drugged mental state is somehow not spiritually pure, but because you'll lose the juxtaposition of cognition between it and sober thinking.

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So, I've come to understand that my homosexuality is my sexual immaturity convincing myself to commit acts of sexual immorality towards members of the same sex, similar to heterosexuals for having their dicks convince them to commit acts of sexual immorality towards members of the opposite sex.

Regardless of the fact that you're a homosexual or a heterosexual, it is entirely necessary for you to develop pure fraternal bonds with fellow men and a pure dynamic synchronization with a member of the opposite sex for the sake of procreation and renewing your soul by transferring it onto your and your loved one's child.

In spite of that, I find a sense of happiness in my love for a fictional husbando. This isn't healthy, obviously, as he's not real, but his smile makes me smile. Should I allow this for the sake of individuality and self-expression, or is it too unhealthy and hedonistic?

>>38588165
fag origami with a twist

>>38584898
how do you reconcile the buddha being a rich kid playing crust punk because he had a social safety net to go back to being a spoiled rich kid if it didn't work out rather than actually wanting to genuinely experience life and teach something meaningful from those experiences?

Can u cum without touching ur dick ?

>>38588370
He went to see common folk and saw suffering which is what lead for him to seek enlightenment and a way out of the pain that common folk had to endure
Do you mean to say that his roots made him incapable of having genuine meaningful experiences?
Every person living on welfare is technically better off than Buddha was at his time, we have running water, we have products to indulge ourselves with that the people of that couldn't dream of, we have internet, computers, porn, proper dental care, modern medicine etc
Does that mean we are all incapable of seeking enlightenment because we have safety net to fall back to?
Is crippling poverty the prerequisite to enlightenment?

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>>38588370
I believe your description is unaccurate to say the least, and there is not only one buddha. You just happen to be picking on one you dislike, but there have been many others, from very different backgrounds.

Also I'd like to note that you're attacking just a person, not trying to argue with his doctrines/ideas, of which you probably know little. The identity an idea's proponent is completely irrelevant when trying to figure out its validity.

I invite you to try to find out more what you're discussing about before posting your opinions on these matters. You're welcome.

>>38586562
>"As he burned he never moved a muscle, never uttered a sound, his outward composure in sharp contrast to the wailing people around him."
This dude is pretty much a Buddhist proof of concept, if you are resolved enough, not even the most physically painful thing on Earth can phase you. People were so amazed at this act of self-immolation that they started prostrating before him as he burned, it was nigh miraculous.

So even if your post is intended as a joke, that picture is a serious inspiration to many Buddhists.

>>38586617
>Do you think I can still benefit from meditation?
Yes, you can. In fact you probably need it or could benefit from it as much as everyone else.

All meditation is about is mental exercise for brain change, it has nothing to do with reaching a specific 'correct' state of mind. Everyone has someting that he is deficient on on his mind that he can fix with enough effort. Some have lack of attention, others (opposite to you) have excess emotional attachments, and in your case they are 'disfunctional' emotional patterns, that keep you away from trying things you might enjoy by not providing you the motivation to do so. The whole point is to improve in things you know that should be fixed in your mind.

>>38589489
I think self immolation is the Buddhist form of extremism, just like the old gurus that would starve themselves to death, the Buddha that was to be either a great ruler or a spiritual man taught to his disciples the meaning of moderation
If you self immolate, starve yourself in fasting or do any other harmful things to your vessel in this world you're not following the right path
Don't harm others or yourself, live and let others live, do everything in moderation and don't get attached to worldly desires is what i take away from Buddhist teachings

>>38584898

I also meditate. It's not like meditation is magical or something, it's just better than nothing; like, with meditation you're 10% less depressed. Better than nothing.

>>38589692
This, Duc was making a sacrifice, not one of body but of spirit, he was making a spiritual display for a political issue because he knew what it affected.

>>38584898
I'm a scholar.

It's actually a pretty okay job for a robot, but getting through my PhD has been hell because part of my assignment has been teaching. Undergraduates are vapid, chatty, spineless little monsters, plotting to eat me alive at the first given opportunity.

It's nice to remind myself that they are brave, intelligent, and wise being that are held back by their fears and insecurities.

(this is, of course, a lie, but this perspective gets me through a 50-minute class)

>>38589692
I'm not saying we should all kill ourselves, I just see the self-immolation as a powerful example of just what people are capable of when embracing Buddhism.

>>38584898
I want to become a Buddhist but do not believe in reincarnation. Can you convince me?

>>38585247
The Art of Happiness by the Dalai Lama

Fantastic book. Lots of buddhist wisdom.

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>>38590249
You don't have to, silly!

Siddhartha taught that you should always question and test his teachings in order to find your own truth.

>>38590249
You don't really have to believe in anything superstitious or supernatural to be buddhist, the core principles are basically a life philosophy

>>38588370
I suppose even Buddha could be amazed of a rich kid's unwilligness to better his life, staying as always so passive...

>>38584898
My friend turned Buddhist a while back and he now thinks he's better than everyone.

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>>38590436
>>38590471
Thanks guys, you've made me really happy :)

>>38590722
sounds like hes on a ego trip. happens to the best of us

>>38590722
Buddhism is an elitest religion at its roots, less so than Hinduisn but far more so than Christianity. The Buddha called people drooling idiots fairly often, there really isn't any sympathy in the philosophy for people with little willpower, unlike Christianity which takes pity upon sinners and such. Buddhists just call them retards and understand that there are many people who will never grasp it.

>>38591561
>Buddhism is an elitest religion at its roots,

half of the point of buddhism is compassion even for your enemies and erosion of one's ego, what are you talking about?

>>38590249
Op here. Happy to see the thread still going. Just woke up.

Anyway. The way I see it, every action has a reaction. All your karma, good or bad will somehow get carried on. How? By throwing you into birth again.

But also you can still follow the eightfold path and not beleive in reincarnation. You can keep an open mind towards it, meditate on it. You may come around. I used to have the same problem. It just kind of struck me one day and I suddenly felt comfortable with the concept. I dont know how to describe it.

but dont stress too hard. Eightfold path and tons of compassion and everything else will fall into place

Where are you anti-buddha? Did you die? Are you too busy on some other forum arguing about psychedelics? Why won't you save us?

>>38591561
I dont think they saw them as idiots, but the Siddhartha refered to them as "People with dust on their eyes"

He actually almost kept his teachings to himself because of this because he thought no one would give him the time of day or had too much dust in their eyes to see clearly.

>>38591589
Im talking about actual buddhism and not new age western buddhism

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Ravi Shankar anyone?

>>38591698
You wouldn't get that impression reading the pali canon either, both of those things are at the core of traditional buddhism. At no point could you reasonably derive the idea that you're supposed to look down on others from the actual teachings of the Buddha

Anyone that does is absolutely missing the point, eroding your own ego is arguably one of the most important tenants of buddhism

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OP, if anyone needs a good book to really delve in, read this. Amazing book. Honestly its my personal favorite.

I think another anon in here mentioned it as well but a book called The Power of Now is really good as well

>>38591827
You aren't supposed to have any passion, be it compassion or passionate hatred, people can either take the message or leave it, it is of absolutely no consequence what they do. There is no compassion for the idiots or for the enlightened, the Buddha had no obligation at all to even share his knowledge.

I never disagreed that your ego must be destroyed, but it must be acknowledged as a simple fact that some people are idiots, you can not allow yourself to be deluded into believing otherwise.

>>38591909
>there is compassion for the idiots or the enlightened.

OP, not ture. There is compassion to found in everyone I highly beleive. The simple act of helping another alone is compassion. Monks doing alms is even compassion beleive it or not. They are giving the oppurtunity to give.

And wether someone may be an idiot or not, there is a buddha state in everyone.
also if you arent here to help others then what are you doing?
Compassion was one of the buddhas main teachings. Dont get so hung up on detacthment that you lose sight on youre purpose here. at some point you have to let go of "letting go" and just be. To eradicate everything dukkha, we must not let ourselves to become that which we seek to eliminate from our lives. Compassion is the best way to do this.

>>38591909
That isn't true at all. The point of Buddhism isn't to become some kind of emotionless husk of a human being, nor is it about denying the harsh realities of life, it's to cultivate a deeper form of wellbeing that isn't contingent on external circumstance. Compassion is emphasized because it is viewed as a necessary component in attempting to remove yourself from one's ego. If you cannot look at someone without first comparing them to yourself or others, you cannot consider yourself truly free.

Compassion is the idea of being able to look at others to be able to see their suffering and to truly wish them to be happy and free from that suffering. It's a state of mind that is intrinsically blissful and a natural consequence and requirement of eroding the ego and the idea of the self. It's not other people that suffer when you look at them with resentment, envy, contempt or even indifference, it's you.

isn't the "goal" of Buddhism, or even Hinduism, transcendental bliss? nirvana in Buddhism or samadhi in hinduism?


if so, how does one "achieve" that?

>>38592365
>if you cannot look at someone without first comparing them to yourself or others, you cannot consider yourself free

I feel like you're pulling this out of your ass lol

>walking down the street in New York, comparing yourself to everyone on some level

no thanks jeff

>>38592640
You're missing the point. Being compassionate doesn't mean comparing yourself to others on the same level, it means not comparing yourself to them at all. It means seeing their for what they actually are without your view being obscured by your own ego. Compassion is a natural consequence of removing yourself from the ego and the illusion of self and is cultivated for that reason. To treat others with contempt or to be envious is to yourself suffer, it simply makes no sense to treat people any other way than with compassion.

>>38588165
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2QXcMZcqaE

tl;dw - As long as it does not become your entire focus and it does not produce unhealthy attachment, it's cool.

>>38592802
oh sorry I actually read what you wrote wrong kek

I thought said that you should be comparing yourself to others, rather than you should not be.

alright then

its weird being around other buddhists who are at different stages of their practice and the different personalities. Its to the point I don't even go anymore to groups

I really like this thread so bumping for other. Ty fellow Buddhist. I follow same method and I'm Hindu. I thought to make a thread about it to help others. But never really made it. You're explaining really great. Keep it up

Atheist here, I like buddhists and other such beliefs, as their belief systems are not as dogmatic. Peace and progress be on you.

>>38592577
OP, In buddhism the way is the eightfold path essentially. Meditation along with this.

I havent read much Hinduism so I wouldnt know. but i can heavily infer meditation is involved as well.

>>38593663
OP, Thanks mate. You should make a hindu thread one day. id love to learn about it

>>38593757
Former hindu. Now atheist here. You can ask me anything you want.

I'd rather pray to the christian god, in my life I am looking for love and light and good. simple as that keep heaven in your heart.

>>38593903
But then again you are in a dogmatic, evil belief system which has killed millions and stagnated technology.

>>38593903
You and I are much the same, only I'm more agnostic. Keep searching for goodness and truth my dude.

And keep on keeping on, OP. Buddhism and its teachings are wonderful things

>>38592287
What school do you practice? I'm Jodo Shu.

Originalino

>>38584898
How many Muslims have you killed and what chances are there of Ashin Wirathu to become the next dalai lama?

Fellow Buddhist meditator here:
Thought I'd share a couple of resources with those of you who want to get into meditation (regardless of religion).
This ebook is quite short and gives you the lowdown on how to do it and what happens etc.
http://www.meditationexpert.com/ebok/howtomeditate.pdf
This pack of guided audio meditations will also be a great help too, especially if you struggle to get into a routine or have a wandering mind. http://www.mediafire.com/file/9avnnk9e5180bon/Meditation.zip
The main thing is to get into a consistent daily routine, even if it's only 10-15 minutes long.
Good luck guys.

>>38593815
Give me the basics. the 101. Ill explore from there

>>38594462
Well. Hinduism is divided into about six sxhools, and it is a ploytheistic religion which was known for being quite liberal, and it also involved lots of customs. But, it does have some negatives, like the Caste system, but it does not matter for people who convert.. at least I guess. I would not join nowadays because it has become twisted into an evil, dogmatic thing. But honestly, if you want to join, go for it.

>>38593998
OP, Mahayana. in other words, Im Zen Buddhist

>>38584898
What are your feeling towards black people now that you have begun meditating?

I need your opinion op since you are apperently an enlightened being. I need to know your opinion on vegetarian. Yes? No?

>>38594610
Not OP, but some common sense here: don't go full retard or annoying with vegetarianism. Think of it as a health choice, and not a b/s personal religion. Eat more healthy stuff, less meat and less crap, and see what happens. The worst thing is you might get healthy, that's all.

>>38594610
OP, Vegetarian is best but it depends on what you can afford, living situation ect ect.
Some people actually need a little red meat in their diet or they pass out.

If you can go vegetarian, cool. If not, know where your food came from, be thankful, try your best not to waste anything.

If a dish is offered to you and it has meat, take the kind offer.

If an animal was killed for you specifically, dont take it.

Me personally i am not vegetarian but i have been before and I plan on it again. Living sitiation is complicated atm though.

>>38594610
Not OP But its recommended for the health and ethical reasons. Of course theres some place where its necessary to eat meat and thats fine.

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>>38593927
name 7 modern technological or scientific achievements by buddhists, I'll wait

>>38594888
i think zuckerberg had a buddhist phase

>>38594888
I don't think you can attribute the west's scientific advances to religion

>>38585247

What the Buddha Taught is a great intro book

>>38594888
They made tea. Hahahaha checkmate motherfucker