People here often say that I shouldn't let the prison g

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Also prison gay/bicurious general I guess?

>>38527632
Ugh, not again... Okay I'll bite:
Be. Fucking. Practical. You have 2 options and no mid term: either you act on your urges and desires or you don't. That's simple. It's a go/stay situation. You will have to decide, only you can decide. Analyze your options. If you don't act on your urges, you will continue to have these urges until they either fade away or get more intense. How this will affect your daily life and your happiness only you may know. Will you get over it with time or you will keep rambling to yourself on the back of your mind "what if I had done something different"?
If you do act on your desires, it's easier than you might think. Welcome to the dating apps age. Grindr, tinder, scruff, hornet, etc. Download grindr on your smartphone, state what you want to do, find gays near you willing to do it and just do it.
Whatever path you choose just make sure to make a decision and end this "doubt". That sort of chronical indecision can ruin your life. "What if" "should I" "maybe if" "perhaps if I"

>>38527632
The fact that you're attracted to masculinity judging for your picture is already a great indicator that you might as well just come out of the damn closet and have gay sex once and for all.

>>38527947
>That sort of chronical indecision can ruin your life. "What if" "should I" "maybe if" "perhaps if I"

Literally me, from high school me "what should I major in" to now me "should I cheat on my ldr gf with a gay random dude in a casual hook up".

>>38527632
As a gay, it's so boring how you straight curious/bi guys make all these torturous posts about it. Either suck a dick or not, make up your mind.

>>38527813
> prison gay
Also I'd like to add: you are not locked in a cage without any contact to the outside world, no internet, no anything, living with other inmates 24/7 for years, without any access to pornography or any sexual content that you could use to masturbate.
Prision gay is not your case. You're just a little faggot like the rest of us. As a matter of fact, the video that you chose that turns you on, it's not even common place for other gays, and there's nothing about it that you could use to escape by the tangent, like saying you're only aroused because it looks like a girl.
I think you will be happier when you accept your sexuality. I Know I was.

>tfw no daddy bf
I need this.

>>38528085
This.
>>38527632
Literally suck on a cock to see if you like it, OP. If you don't like it then don't do it again. If you do happen to like it, then do it again if you want. Just bee yourself.

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>>38528085
That's a pretty big deal though, not only do we sacrifice our straight identity by succumbing to a fetish, but for people like myself who fantasize about sex with a hairy fat older stranger, there's the whole fear of getting HIV and ending up disgusted with ourselves and not even liking the experience.

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>>38528163
What's stopping you from getting it?
Pretty sure most daddies aren't picky when fresh meat comes by their door.

>>38528189
>sacrifice our straight identity by succumbing to a fetish
Stop talking like a homophobe and an ignoramus that knows nothing about sexuality. If you have such desires, you're not straight. Sexuality doesn't rely on actions, it's about what's on your mind.
Given the rare possibility that your desires will not come to reality once you're doing the thing, that is, the possibility that you won't like sucking dick, you might say that it was nothing but a vain curiosity.
But baby, trust us in this. You're already so invested in this idea, that the only way you wouldn't like it is if you found a guy you don't feel attracted to, which happens every now and then. If you take care to do it with a guy you like it, the possibility that your desires won't concretize are infinitesimal.

>>38528189
The chance of getting HIV from giving a blowjob is minuscule, practically zero unless you have
gaping open sores in your mouth or some shit. You're boxing yourself in with the "straight identity" stuff, chicks do the LUG thing and still consider themselves straight. I've been with a girl and am still 100% gay. But whatever, do what you want. I'm not trying to convince you, I'll be getting my dick sucked either way.

>>38528038
If your relationship with her is mature enough you can bring it up to the table and discuss this with her openly. She won't like it, as any other significant other wouldn't like to Know that the counterpart is having sexual desires outside the relationship boundaries. But in my experience, if there's one thing that kills relationships is dishonesty. Every one in every relationship has had desires to do something more, or someone else, sharing that truth won't necessarily harm the relationship, it might make it stronger.

haha whatever you say man

>>38528189
>That's a pretty big deal though
You "str8" boys think you're so unique whenever you have one of these little sexual crises. you think about dicks once and all of a sudden no one in the world has ever experience the same thing as you.

>not only do we sacrifice our straight identity
When a gay man comes out of the closet (with the exception of flamers), they also lose the safety of a straight persona. If every one of us faggots can do it, so can you buttercup. Stop being afraid of what other people think. It's getting in the way of your own happiness.

>succumbing to a fetish
>fetish
If a gay man wanted to eat pussy, would you say he has a woman fetish? No. Stop being retarded. You're not a straight man with a dick fetish. You're straight up attracted to dicks. You're calling it a fetish in some vain attempt to preserve your fragile masculinity/sexual identity. You can't handle the fact that you're turned on by the idea of daddy's cock in your mouth, so you try to explain it away, like it's just some insignificant little fantasy tacked on to your sexual preferences, not what it actually is- an aspect of your sexuality. Be honest with yourself for a second.

>but for people like myself
trying awful hard not to use a label, huh?

>who fantasize about sex with a hairy fat older stranger, there's the whole fear of getting HIV
hurrrrr what are condoms durrrrr

you think you're the only one in the world that has to worry about that safe sex? even dykes have to worry about protection and they don't actually fuck each other. you're not special, cupcake.

>and ending up disgusted with ourselves and not even liking the experience
Stop being a pussy. Try new things. Explore yourself. And let's be real here, what you're most afraid of isn't the chance of not enjoying yourself, it's the fact that the second you go out and try this is the second you have to give up your str8 card. you're afraid of being considered gay or not masculine. it's CURRENT YEAR get over it

>>38528189
>for people like myself who fantasize about sex with a hairy fat older stranger
We have a word for people like that. It's called "faggot".

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>>38528669

Good post anon. Bravo

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I've done gay shit with a friend when I was 13 or 14 since I had never gotten myself to cum with masturbation at that age with no access to porn and just my imagination and a shitty kung fu grip. But having someone else jerk me off worked, can't say I ever particularly enjoyed servicing. And really getting serviced wasn't great either, just kind of awkward but it was the only way I could get any feeling at all at the time. I watch gay porn now and again. Varies between 2-4 days out of a week, anywhere in that range, mostly twinks and shemales. I sucked a guy's cock off craiglist once three years ago, he was a pretty normal guy, athletic, nice enough, like I said I'm mostly into feminine guys but it's just easier if the other guy is taking charge. Maybe that's part of what makes women harder to work with, you're supposed to be the leading one, and I can't imagine myself in that situation. But it turned me off of it for awhile. It just wasn't enjoyable. Kinda awkward and passionless. Maybe it'd be the same if I could fuck women as easily as gay guys. I'm certainly still attracted to women, so I can't imagine I'd have a WORSE time. Some people here claim bisexuals aren't real, but I don't buy that. Maybe not genuine ones, but I at least think it's possible to at least start to fantasize and develop some attraction for males, even if you don't have romantic feelings or care for the actual physical act, if you're as afraid and incompetent around women as I am, and I assume as most of us are.

My advice is to just suck a dick. If you like it you like it and can do it again. If you don't you'll end up stuck in the same repeating hell as me, where you're too scared and incompetent to get with women but gay sex is a fleeting fantasy that turns to grey mush when your libido builds up enough to test it again every few years.

im gay with a boyfriend and seeing hetero couples still triggers my teen virgin angst

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>if you don't suck at least 3 dicks a week you are not a true robot

out

>>38527632
Your image was nice. The video was fucking repulsive though.

So I don't have any delusions that I'm straight (I'm clearly bi, I find OP's pic hot, so I can't trick myself that I'm solely attracted to femininity), but still I'm not really buying the advice here to just go out and try it. I am primarily interested in girls, and would rather lose my virginity to a girl, so just going out and whoring it up with older dudes or whatever seems like a really good way to fuck me up emotionally and sexually. Like even if I'm not "prison gay", it still feels like I'm settling, knowing that having a gay sexual experience would be so much easier than a straight one. That just feels really slutty (which of course is hot when I'm horny, but after cumming I'll realize how pathetic it seems).

So yeah, idk. Also most girls probably aren't into bi dudes so I don't want to make my dating pool any smaller than it already is, or otherwise lie to the first girl I ever get with.

I always had something off, I didn't know what was it. I had a girlfriend. I can't even explain, it just...
I was with friends and there was a gay guy in the group, we were smoking weed. And he was looking at me, and I stared back but not because I felt attraction, I just didn't know why he was looking. I genuinely was naive in this aspect.
At some point he made a shot of with me. I don't know how it's called in English, it's when you pass the smoke directly to another person's mouth like through a half kiss. Well he did that to me and we started touching the lips and as the roll burned we started actually kissing. The kisses were quite "passionate" but it was probably because we were high.
After that I grew curious about trying alternative things. I never saw that stoner boy ever again, but someone on 4chan talked about Grindr in one of these threads, so I gave it a try. The first date was so disastrous that it made me step back and spend 6 months of "abstinence" because I thought the date had turned out terrible because I didn't really liked guys, and I thought "Now the urges will cease". They didn't. 6 months afterwards I tried once again with grindr, it wasn't bad but it wasn't great either. So I stayed in this hiatus. Months of withdrawal. Visit grindr. Random date. Back to abstinence. I did that 2 more times total, still with a girlfriend. Until I met a gay guy through mutual friends. Then it hit me. I fell in love. Hard. Fell in love big time. Like movie shit. My heart pumped when I saw him. It wasn't just on the beginning. Seeing him filled me with such intense joy, I could feel the warmth spreading through my body. But I was too dumb. Too fucking dumb. He wasn't a closet gay, he was full out of the closet, completely involved in lgbt activism, and was a closet case that didn't even consider myself gay and had a girlfriend. He put his beliefs and pride aside as far as he could to deal with my bullshit, so we had an affair. But he couldn't take it forever.

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>tfw gay but get absolutely disgusted by the idea of sex
why do gays need to be such sex addicts
i will always be alone

>>38530329
> Being this much of prudish
I bet my testicles you think your first time will be "special" "emotional" and "deep". An experience to inspire movies and novels.
Boy you're into for a disappointment.
Although I understand you wouldn't want your first time to be a hookup, but to deny male sex because it would be easier and less worthy than straight sex, Don't be such hypocrite moralistic cunt

>>38530551
>disgusted by the idea of sex
Autist.

>>38530620
Seeing how fucking filthy the fag community is, it's hard to blame him. In fact, modern women are scum too. Virginity seems like liberation.

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>be gay since 2006 when I was 14
>still a virgin

guess I'll just be a wizard.

>>38530646
It's always sad to encounter prudists on 4chan. Go be a hypocritical puritan elsewhere, you're a roach complaining about the flies.

>>38530730
The only viable explanations are equally scary. You are either deformed by birth or by accident; live in complete seclusion from society locked and enclosed in a roon; or you're so unbearably insufferable that noone can stand to be around you long enough to bond.
If it's the second or third option, you're to blame.

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>>38530744
>its normal for gays to have sex with a stranger atleast once a week
>its normal to be in a open relationship for gays
>its normal to have sex with men atleast 30yrs older than you or 30yrs younger than you as long as its 18+
>its normal to walk around naked on the streets with straptoys on, full leather BDSM outfits and more shit u see in porn during gay prides

>anon says gays arent filthy
what?

>>38530744
I want liberation from what I see as filth. Perhaps if lived in an age that wasn't so disgusting I wouldn't have to reject life's greatest pleasures.

>>38530494
You're together now or what? Fucking finish your story, fag

>>38530808
mostly the second one.

>>38530744
what's hypocritical about it? If he's disgusted by sex he's disgusted by sex. It doesn't have any bearing on the degeneration of his life in other aspects. If you're born a fag then you can be born less sexual than others.

>>38530814
It's funny how you selected all those examples and spoke them like great atrocities, when in fact all I can read is one thing
> Sexuality is normal
Yes it is. Unfortunately we live in a society whose moral code is heavily influenced by abrahamic religions, which all condemned sexuality and its variations.
Nothing of what you said is even slightly evil for a person not infected by the sexual Puritanism that certainly permeates your society. It wouldn't surprise me if you were american indeed, colonized by the puritans, who thought of sex as outright evil and satanic.
Luckily for me I live in a society where sexuality is a little bit less taboo. But only a little bit.

I sucked my friends dick a few times during sleep overs, always made him cum

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>willingly going gay
Pure faggotry.

On the other hand, being raped sounds hot as fuck. Imagine feeling your own body betray you as your ass stretches to accommodate him. The feeling of panic and shame as you involuntarily become aroused. Even if you begged him to stop, you'd have to know deep down that you've been conquered. Maybe he'd whisper in your ear what a little bitch you are, and what can you say? You're the one with a dick in your ass. Maybe if you had fought harder you could have gotten away. But in the end you submitted to man sex. Next is the mix of dread and relief when he finally cums inside you. It's finally over, but did you just get any diseases? Maybe he took a picture of you getting fucked and he threatens to show it to your gf unless you show up whenever he calls.

Only a faggot would willingly have sex with a man. Real men get raped.

>>38530969
Fags are egoistical self-righteous hypocrites
u cnt refute this

>>38530969
Sex really isn't that great of a thing to be "liberated" by it. Anybody who feels that way is pretty safe to assume as a bland vapid person. It's just a biological release that you don't care about after it's out, as you said yourself trying to tie any deeper emotional meaning to it is silly. So if we want to be so flippant about it, I'd rather not have it spread about just to keep myself safe from disease when I want to fuck somebody, so fuck you and your shallow "liberation".

>>38530897
I didn't call the asexual one a hypocrite. Read who I replied to. Someone that stated that virginity was liberating because the status quo of sexuality is filthy.
A sentence derived from an acute ignorance of history, and a firm belief in certain moralistic view of the world that makes someone prone to judging other and feeling Superior for not sharing their experiences. Hypocritical because if given even the slightest chance, such person would certainly engage in every act of pleasure they condemned.
Nothing related with genuine asexuality, but in my experience those who are virgins and try to justify it as a voluntary choice resulting from a dissatisfaction with society's "promiscuity" tend to be just bitter lying cunts.

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>>38530969
>pic related is perfectly normal behaviour for a man

>>38531135
I literally think you have mistaken the replies along the way. You see, this anon called himself asexual (>>38530551) I called him an autist, for being repelled by the idea of sex (>>38530620). Someone else or Maybe himself came into defense, claiming that gays and women were filthy and virginity was liberating (>>38530646)
I stated that it was both sad and curious to find prudists on 4chan(>>38530744) to which that person replied a series of examples of what they consider abominable sexual behaviors (>>38530814) and so I made the post you're quoting about the flaws of this moralistic view of sex, and the neutral nature of human sexuality.

>>38531165
In a world where I could fuck anybody I chose off the street, then I probably would assign some value to abstinence after awhile once I just got bored of it and did just as well for myself jerking off into a napkin if all sex ever meant to anyone was primal humping.

>>38531201
If you knew any better than memes, you would know that picture, which is more than 10 years old, was taken in a naked cycling festival in europe. Not a gay parade.
But even if it was a gay parade, it still would be perfectly fine. You're so blinded by your puritanism that you think the mere sight of the naked body is immoral and condemnable. Like there's evil intertwined with genitals. Your point of view is medieval.

>>38531347
> In a world where I could have easy access to pleasure, I would voluntarily abstain from it because if it's too easy than it's not worth of my time.
> Says the virgin
Sure. Whatever you say you would, bro.

>>38531346
To me it seemed like you were implying that by having wanton sex you were liberating yourself from preconceived views of what it is to be normal. I think that's horseshit. First off, "normal" is entirely dictated by the society in which you live anyway and is by its nature preconceived, so his list, for now depending on where he lives, could very well be accurate.

But what I was saying before that you're wrong to say it's liberating to fuck. Liberating from the oppressive forces of religion and all that. He's wrong to say virginity is liberating too, by the way. There's no liberation or deeper meaning to be found in sex. Either it's presence or absence.

My problem is I don't think you're being nihilistic about sex. You're being moralist about fucking. Condemning his thoughts as "medieval" is a moral stance, when both of your opinions are rooted in arbitrary definitions of normalcy. After all, how could his opinions be medieval if you didn't view behaving sexually to everybody openly and publicly as normalcy in this day and age?

If a man from the past came to the present day and told me he didn't want to fuck somebody, I wouldn't take it one way or another, you take it with disgust. If somebody came from the future and told me they wanted to walk down the street with their cock out I wouldn't take it one way or the other, the other anon takes it with disgust. He wants to live in a world where everybody walks down the street fully clothed, anyone who doesn't is a freak. You want to live in a world where everybody walks down the street naked and unashamed, or else they're freaks.

>>38530814
Well none of those things are normal for me and I'm not going to fall on the sword for what other people do.

>>38530830
I lost him. I lost him due to my closet. I didn't want to do anything in public, I didn't want to break with my girlfriend, I didn't want to date openly, I wanted to do it on the low, secretly, like we were criminals. Of course he couldn't take it for long. And then he went away. And I had a chance to get him back, but I wasted it once more. I'm a dumb fucker who deserves to suffer.
I came out of the closet after that. Broke with the girl, told my family... There's no point in pretending to be straight. Since I started seeing men, I never even kissed girls any longer. Don't really want to. I guess I was always a full blown faggot but unaware. My first experiences weren't good because I didn't Know how to "choose" a guy who I felt attracted to. I just hooked with any guy that wanted me, even if I didn't desire them back.
I never fully recovered from my love affair, perhaps never will. Perhaps it's one of those things you take for life. But I dated other men after that. I'm kinda seeing one now, let's see where it goes.

>>38531511
>if it's too easy than it's not worth my time
I never claimed that. I said that I would get bored by it, and perhaps stop and feel mightier for it. I've had sex multiple times. Already it's not too special. It's no different than a man who feels superior to people who still watch children's cartoons since they outgrew them long ago after having a glut of them ready to watch at their command for years. I don't assign any wrongdoing to these people. All of these kinds of haughtiness are arbitrary, but I still don't want to hang out with people who watch Dora the Explorer.

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>>38527632
>there are people who actually faps to old bears

Holy fuck, that's disgusting

I'm bi and i would never fuck someone who wasn't a twink or fit

>>38527947
This is the only answer that matters. Personally I'd recommend you just buck the fuck up and give it a shot. If you're in a more populated area finding a daddy who'll patently let you explore your feelings. I dragged myself over that initial hurdle and now I actively enjoy it.

give it one shot. Sober and calm then if you find yourself thinking about it pleasantly a week later then yeah, you might be a faggot

>t.that curious fag who tried it, Likes it and now actively Looks for more

>>38530969
ARE YOU FUCKING DUMB ??? HELLO ????

enjoy you sexual vanities until they fade away you selfish hedonist cunt.

>>38531667
Your misunderstanding of my words is so severe, that I actually wonder if you even read a single reply of mine.
I did not claim sex to be liberating. I didn't claim it no be necessary, vital, mandatory or right. I didn't claim sex wasn't anything, except perhaps for natural in the biological sense, but even so it doesn't matter. You speak of me like I was opposing the prudists with a giant dildo as a sword, riding a penis shaped vehicle and trying to install the sex dictatorship where virgins are executed.
I am not. I saw a prudist condemning sexual behaviors, and I merely Stated the most likely origin for his moral: abrahamic religions and their sex demonization mythos. I also stated my personal preference for a society that provides freedom for us to carry our sexuality without taboos, specifically those who arise from hypocrisy and ignorance.
I'm not judging anyone for being a virgin. I'm judging his judgment of sexuality.
Also the medieval point of view, you once again fail at understanding context. Anon posted a picture of an old man naked and a child cringing at the sight, as a irrefutable proof of how abominable promiscuity is. He literally sees the idea of seeing an exposed genital as evil, like nudity itself was immoral and evil instead of natural. That was a common belief in medieval Catholicism and later protestantism. It's a thought stronger nowadays within islamism.

Here's a foolproof test you can do right at home: masturbate to the thought of one of your homosexual fantasies. After you've orgasmed, is the idea of being a cockslut still appealing, or is it disgusting? Do you feel the same way you do after masturbating to hetero fantasies, or are you filled with shame?

>>38531919
all queers are not created equal. I get off on the old disgusting slob thing. They want and give more because their prospects are limited compared to Twinks McKenzie the gaping 18. I like my boys (male) to be either actively masculine or trap-tier girlish. Young, less square-jawed but clearly male teens do nothing for me

>>38531999
No, I don't consider myself dumb.
However I don't really have to ask to Know that you are certainly a grand prudist, therefore I'll call you accunt.

>>38532165
i ain t no prudist. Do whatever the fuck you want, but behind your curtains. These things should not be things you should brag about in public. If you really think sexuality is so important, then i m sorry to say that you probably are going to regret wasting so much time on physical pleasure instead of doing other and more meaningful things on your death bed.
tl;dr: you think that getting easy and short rewardingpleasure is better than giving a goal and meaning to your actions, and thus you ll die sad.
I hope you never have a child homo.

>>38531788
It's funny how you compare people who seek sexual pleasure, or hedonists, with adults watching children cartoons, and people who have "surpassed their desires of the flesh" with fully grown adults that no longer watch children cartoons.
You see how amazing a thing is, I myself think it's exactly the opposite. People who have come to terms with their sexuality and explore it as they want are best compared to the adults that have outgrown something. And prudists who still bug on the subject of sex, and who still think of sexuality as immoral and evil, a mundane pleasure that reduce men to the status of beast, those I believe are better compared to the manchild who never grew out of the children cartoons phase. I myself wouldn't be too eager to hang out with those types, especially when they sound like a bore to be around.

>>38532268
Actually nothing is stopping me from doing grandiose things and pursue pleasure at the same time. In fact I'm doing many of those things now, as well as getting my degree. Sexuality is very important, and so are many other aspects of your life. I think it's curious when you imply an unhappy future for my life because of my "free sexuality"... It might come as a shock to you, but it's tremendously ironic to say that on this board above all others,this board that feeds on both sexual frustration and sadness. It's almost like they walk hand by hand...
> Behind curtains
And that's also how I Know you are a filthy little prudist who are probably ashamed of nudity and think that sex is disrespectful.
Sexuality is part of life, and the same way you believe I will be somehow unhappy for believing that, I also believe thoroughly that you will be unhappy for denying that. How curious.

>>38532509
if you are happy with what you got, nice for you.
But stop involving everyone with it. I don t really care about what you people do, but gay pride and stuff like this can only make me disgusted.
When i imply that you ll probably have an unhappy future, is because too much pleasure kills the pleasure. Like a drug man. You may feel happy now, but see you in forty years. With a bit of a hope you will be very happy too, but i emit a doubt.
Also i m not frustated tho. I just don t care about your shit, so that s why i don t like when it s put in front of my eyes. I like to know than when you are doing things that you ll forget soon enough, i can spend my time doing stuff i prefer and that i think are more important in my eyes and that i ll remember.
In short : do the fuck you want, but stop pushing that in front of everyone. And accpet that what you think is good and very important, i think it s shallow and useless.
It s not about denying sexuality, i never said it wasn t an important part of life.
>inb4 you say that i said it was "useless" and "shallow"
You are just putting on too much importance on it.

Also i m bi fgt, doesn t mean i go out in latex and skirts