Goku would beat Superman in a fight without even having

Agreed. Frieza would even be able to beat Superman, easily.

Frieza is above the level of Darkseid, who cannot destroy planets with a single finger, and Darkseid is reasonably close to Superman's strength.

>>38419104
I unironically believe that even Tien would give superman a hard time

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>>38419722
t. buttmad superman KEK

As a total weeb, I gotta admit superman would win easily. American comics do this thing where they just throw out any sort of realism and use huge numbers to convey thoughts like "hes really strong". As a result, superman canonically can lift 200 QUINTILLION (200,000,000,000,000,000,000) tons in 6x normal earth gravity WITH ONE HAND. And this isn't even him at the strongest hes been in the comics.

To use some reference, during the Buu saga Goku in his base form was barely able to move under the weight of 40 tons (seen in a training clip of him with king kai). OP is a stupid faggot if he really thinks base form Goku would last a literal second vs Superman.

>>38419140
and you're just unironically dumb.

Depends on the Superman. Superman Prime One Million? No chance.

>>38419057
If superman had a consistent strength and wasn't made to be overpowered I might be inclined to care about this match-up. As it stands I will only say that only Saitama and similar parody characters could beat superman.
As much as I like Goku more, and as much as I think Simon could kick Superman's ass, I just know superman would pull bullshit out of his ass because he's a natural born god.

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>>38420396
KEK

The Shin Kikoho gave Imperfect Cell a hard time in the fucking Cell Saga; what's to say Tien hasen't improved? We know he trains. A lot.

>>38420749
Goku Base form > Tien
Goku Base form barely moves under 40 tons in buu saga
Tien would have to go from worse than 40 tons to 200,000,000,000,000,000,000 tons.

But Spider-Man would beat both their asses EASILY.

>>38420826
not if either of them wanted to kill him. Spider-man is by far my favorite superhero and I know he stands no chance. he has a better chance against superman with access to kryptonite, but if superman wanted to kill spider-man from the start of the fight, spider-man would be dead before he knew what happened.

>>38420895

*jizz some webbing into superman or Goku's mouth*
*wait 3-4 minutes*
*they suffocate*
*gg*

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>>38420817
Get a load of this guy! He thinks he KNOWS something!
That is such a lowball feat; and one that has been put out there to death. We know King Kai's planet (yes, it WAS King Kai's planet in the manga) is 10x that of earth which is 400 tons. Now Goku (who has lifted more as a kid if I might add) is doing 2 things: Most likely not using chi to enhance his lifting strength (Toryiama said this in an interview; Chi greatly enchanted what the physical body can not handle) and is pushing UP. UP. This is a lot more force that you'd think.

Please come back when you have done more research. Anyway, that is ALL STAR superman. Not regular Superman.

>>38420396
So what if he can lift that much? Would he even be able to TOUCH Goku? Goku would slice that motherfucker in half with some Krillin-level half-assed bullshit, no sweat. Goku would teleport around and laugh as superman pissed his panties.

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was goku ever even able to beat broly 1v1?

This is the worst thread on /r9k/ right now. I hope you're all ashamed.

>>38420934
>superman breathes really hard.
>undoes the webbing and kills spider-man.

>goku moves out of the way of webbing, teleports behind spider-man and kills him with one hit.

>>38420997
Then go admire the quality of some strange man's anus in your favorite trap thread

DBS Goku should be above Rebirth Superman.

Their abilities change so often that there is no definitive answer to who would win.

>>38420978
nope. not without ki from at least two other people.

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Isn't Superman body indestructible without Krypton? Saiyans are still made of flesh and bone.

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>>38419057
Nah the reason why many people think this is because the DCU superman sucked he was straight up bitchmade.

Silver age and bronze age superman was insanity
>sneezed away an entire galaxy
>punched through reality
>towed a solar system
>smited some new gods

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i'd rather see superman vs this motherfucker

>>38421272
>Punched through reality
What does this even mean?

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>>38421420
Punched through dimensions during the infinite crisis.

>>38420396
IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT THEIR PHYSICAL STRENGTH YOU INSUFFERABLE AUTIST

>>38420826
Impossible to determine. Superman is probably the most inconsistent and ridiculous character ever made.

>>38422349
>>38420826
I don't know why these posted linked, but ok.

>>38420396
Dragonball Characters don't have great lifting feats and they usually don't have much hax but they have amazing durability, speed, dc and hax resistance.
Dc is more important than lifting strenght for battles.