How the fuck do people work 8 hours a day, 5 days a week without

>>38381070
They drink I think, its really sad.

>>38381070
Most people have a gf/bf to comfort them when they get home from work

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>>38381070
Judging by the suicide rates; they don't

>>38381070
I work about this much in a week with 2 different jobs. It's not so bad, I make a pretty solid amount of munny so it's pretty worth it.

>>38381094
this. or friends, or family.

I just have the comfort of Mr. Smirnoff's company when I get home.

My first (and frankly, only) job was 7 days a week for upwards of 12 hours a day doing manual labour for minimum wage. Thankfully I talked to the manager and because I was only 15 at the time (my cunt grandmother forced me to get the job despite the hours) I managed to get the weekends off.

Only had to do it for a couple of months during the school holidays. Can't imagine having to do it full time. Even 40 hours a week feels like far too much.

>>38381094
Which is what I dont have and this is what will kill me within a few years

I don't know OP. Unless it's something you enjoy putting skill in, it's hell. Like full time retail hell.

I want to repair phones/pic repair full time for now, that shit is TOO easy.

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8 hours is nothing bitch there's some people that know bro those people just kno the grind don't fucking stop work so hard forgot how to vacation they ain't ever had the dedication working so hard that i missed the whole summer don't owe nobody owe nobody always on the fucking job i got no hobbies

this what seperate the boy from the men this what seperate the honda civic driving 30 year old from the 20 year old self made millionaire lamborghini aventador having baller

>>38381161
Is this even allowed?

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>>38381070
Because, they have dedication, a goal, and reasons to live. You have none of these three things.

>>38381263
No idea. Didn't check. Probably. I assumed it was. You'd get paid overtime or whatever the fuck it was called.

I live in a backward shithole though so it's possible that despite the amount of people employed there (and how rigorous they were about punishing people for being high on the job) that they were breaking labour laws but either nobody there cared because they wanted the money or they didn't know better.

>>38381245
You'll never achieve lamboland until you learn to be your own boss.

>>38381245
Because all the wagies have nice things, lmao

>>38381245
Why are you talking like a street negro?

>>38381372
ya but if u don't have worth ethic or ambition to learn new shit and expand ur skills and get experience initially the cchances of reaching bosshood are probably quite low

>>38381070
I like my job and my coworkers and make good money for not working that hard

Also: alcoholism

>without killing themselves

the only thing keeping me going is the promise of university in the fall. i wont have to wageslave then. also i would really like to die in some crazy death, like getting struck by lightning or eaten by a megalodon

>>38381510
>die in some crazy death, like getting struck by lightning
Fun fact: My grandma got hit by lighting in her 20s and she lived, she's in her 70s now but suffered a stroke a few years back.

Working 40 hours a week makes me want to die significantly less than being a neet did

>>38381456
nigger, either your keyboard is broken, english isnt your first language, or you are in fact, an actual nigger

Either way: neck yourself.

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>>38381609
haters can't see me but never overlook me

>always tell myself I'm saving money when it's payday
>spend all my money in 3 days

It's hell not to have a good paying job.

>>38381070
you literally did that for like 15 years of your early life without being paid.

this is why robots are retarded.

Alcohol and coffee.

>>38381070
They delude themselves into thinking it's somehow worthwhile.
We know better.

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>tfw only work 4 Monday to Friday
>mfw
Feels nice tbqh

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>>38381094
Agree~ they either have a loving gf, bf, husband, wife and or family

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>>38381070
The NEETbux here is complete shit. If I go that route I'll never be able to live a decent life. Might as well die at that point because it will only get worse with age and I'll get fewer and fewer opportunities to escape.

>>38381070
good mental health should be enough

>>38381751
god that's so cute

Get a job you like anon. I got a job working full time at FedEx for the summer as a package handler, and it's the best job I've ever had. It actually takes some skill if you can work loadside, like playing 3d tetris. It feels a lot better than sitting at home doing nothing every day

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40 hours a week is the bare minimum, I would kill myself if I just sat home at all day and did the things I like to do. People on government welfare are the biggest causes of depression dragging every other human being down.

Drugs and alcohol. Not even memeing.

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>>38381094

I'm in my mid thirties, I haven't had a friend since I was 15 years old, I live alone, and I work 40 hours a week. I'm probably the happiest and most content I've ever been in my life. If you base your ability to be happy on external circumstances then you're bound to be unhappy no matter where you are or what you're doing.

>>38382150
I can kind of agree with your post, but the picture is wrong. House cats are actually useful, they remove pests and bugs. Would have bugs crawling in my mouth if not for mine.

For me it's because my life is more miserable than my job. When I'm working I'm not thinking. When I'm at home alone I'm thinking, and that means I'm beating myself up emotionally.

>>38381070
It's really weird that everyone just accepted this mentality of 'I should be working for all my life'

>>38382184
How do you cope with the bleeding rage and existential criseses? The cold loneliness and the inability to communicate? Because I'm basically you but unhappy

>>38381070
I drink a lot.
If I feel particularly bad I'll go out in public somewhere with a lot of people because I won't have the means or opportunity to kill myself there.

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>>38381070
just worked my first job today in 2 years. it was alright made $55 but I bought beer so like $45. when people look at me I have to look away besides that it's alright I couldn't work full time though my back is dead.

>>38382184
>If you base your ability to be happy on external circumstances then you're bound to be unhappy no matter where you are or what you're doing.
I know this but if I'm satisfied with anything then I won't be motivated to do stuff since it's not necessary anymore.

30 Hour work week here. It's fucking godly. If I ever lose my job I am going to be one sad man.

>>38382205
The one office job I ever had had a lot of this going on. I knew several people there who worked long hours, volunteered for business travel or on-call stuff, just to stay away from their wife/kids as much as possible.

>>38382184
>If you base your ability to be happy on external circumstances then you're bound to be unhappy no matter where you are or what you're doing.

lmao how is being sad even a think just make yourself happy nigga

Because they're conditioned all their life to believe working is normal and what you "should" do

And you have to do it or you can't afford anything.

We're like fucking rats caged up, working into our 60s just to live. The people on top have won and everyone else is just a modern day slave.

They literally made slavery legal and normal

>>38382226
I don't experience any of those things and my experience in threads like these has taught me that it's meaningless to try to give any specific advice.

>>38382372
And what "stuff" would that be? Any kind fo "stuff" you're doing is almost certainly being done because you hope to gain some sort of happiness or satisfaction from doing it, so your complaint is, "If I'm happy and content then I won't be motivated to put effort into trying to become happy and content".

No shit, son. Once you've reached the goal, you don't have to keep trying to reach it.

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Because were not 25+ Neets jacking off into hot pockets at 3:00 AM.

I could probably do it if I had a family to provide for.

By not being a sad sack of potatoes. Everyone is different believe it or not, Anon. Some people actually enjoy routine work and order in general.

My grandfather knew the grind since he was 14, and never complained once.

>>38382983
>My grandfather knew the grind since he was 14, and never complained once.

Your grandfather obviously had a family to provide for and to come home to.
I imagine that goes a long way.

>>38381245
fresh pasta
i like it

>>38382662
>No shit, son. Once you've reached the goal, you don't have to keep trying to reach it.
Your assertion was that there are no goals to begin with since your happiness didn't depend on external circumstances. If that was really possible then why even work 40 hours a week? It wouldn't matter to you right?

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>>38381070
I like the distraction from my thoughts, it feels good working 9 or 10 hours a day and then coming home exhausted and able to relax and feel really comfy and cozy

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>>38381070
It all starts with a handshake bud

>>38382983
>My grandfather knew the grind since he was 14, and never complained once.
Why are you proud of this?

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>>38381070
By doing something you're passionate about.

Just kidding. I do a lot of drugs.

$400/week autism bux is plenty of money for me as I don't do anything.

Right now I live with my parents but they'll be buying me an apartment (paid off) so I finally have my own place. No rent/mortgage to pay, so $400/week is fine for me.

I'm in Australia.

A true robot doesn't NEED to work.

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>he didn't become a nurse, pharmacist, pa or MD
>he didn't lock himself into 3-4 day work weeks
>he works 5 days a week
>he is poor

>>38383221
why is life like this
why do you have to guess what the right path is and get it right on the first try, just for your life not to suck

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>>38383253

I didn't get it right the fist try. I got a shitty business degree and went back to school within 2 years of graduation. I should have listened to my father when he said work in a job where you are your own boss or your job actually needs you (not enough healthcare professionals in this country).

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>>38383019
I don't get why people would want a family if having one means working full-time.

>>38381070
You say that as though a lot of wagies don't cap themselves. It's sad but that's the price you pay for fucking around in life and not making something of yourself.

>>38381070

I work from home, 4pm-1am

and I probably only do actual work around an hour a week, if I'm lucky

I had more fun-time when I was working. now I just shitpost for hours and hours. I can pass 8 hours on 4chan on a bad day easy, another 8 hours in a repetitive online game . Sleep more too, having a work schedule actully made me use my time better,

>>38383221
Yeah I know dentist who make like 7 figures who only work 2-3 days a week.

Then again they run their own clinics.

Crazy how much you can earn if you're smart and work hard at school and go the right way.

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Personally I wonder how people live not working at all. I've been NEET two years and I feel deader than dead inside. I'd love to have a job but I fucked that all up being NEET.

>>38383338

Nice digits.

Dont get me wrong, I dread the days I have to work becuase it involves being up at 545 in the morning the latest. The rest of the week isn't all that bad and it feels good being able to go get Shake Shack without regretting spending $15. I guess eventually I could be come a fringe normie with this money.

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>>38383307
l don't get why people would want a family if having one means working full-time.

>>38382184
A few questions if you don't mind:
- What motivates you to put effort into work?
- What do you do with your free time?
- If you are content with life then why do you come to /r9k/ of all places?

>>38381070
>>38381070
OP I used to work 9-10 hours a day 5 days a week with the odd Saturday once a month thrown in.

I was able to handle this when I first started working for about a year but then what really got to me was how much I am making for others.

I could be working for myself earning more and reaping the profits for me.

So I have now started my own business. I suggest you do aswell because you get an entirely new feeling when you are working for yourself. It all feels worth it.

>>38381070
I'm on day six of doing nine days in a row.
It's not hard so long as your job is tolerable and you have nice workmates.

>>38383041

Oh, are we playing that game now? If I'm happy and content with a simple and frugal life and don't sink into misery if I don't have time to shitpost on 4chan for 10 hours a day then why don't I just go live inside a porta-potty and subsist on excrement? Everything's the same to me so what's the difference lolol!

The goal of virtually everything people do is happiness. Once you've achieved a happiness that doesn't depend on externals, it means that you can stop wasting so much energy chasing after fleeting external happiness. It doesn't mean you roll over and stop living, or that you no longer need to eat or have a place to live. I don't find my work unpleasant, so why wouldn't I work a normal working week?

I never said that there were no goals to begin with. Happiness is the goal and achieving a true inner happiness is reaching the goal.

>>38383356
Its not that I hate a lack of structure or activities, it's just I hate the feeling of being looked down on by the rest of the world for not paying my own way. That's a very bad feel and it makes me pretty miserable, but it's less bad than I felt while working. I'm not dreading each and every day and pondering suicide all the time.

>>38383431

>>38383392

here

If I don't get a senior staff nurse position within the next few years I'm going to go back to school and get my NP classes done and open my own clinic.

I know I said I don't have much to complain about but in the end yeah everyone I work with even the doctors know we are just making the CEO of the health system rich in the end.

>>38383476
Why don't you look down on them, instead? Those dumb faggots pay you to eat and sleep, and they can't do anything about it!

>>38381721
Nah, that was only six hours. And you got shit tones of vacation time as well.

>>38383500
because I don't have the cocky-and-superior personality, I have the wants-to-be-liked personality.

also I'm neeting off my parents, not a taxpayer-funded program. My parents annoy me sometimes but I don't hate them or think they're dumb faggots.

>>38381245
i like this meme
very much
t.origig

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I was a NEET for 5 years (didn't leave my front door for those 5 yeas, just browsed r9k, played on my PS3 and browsed the web every single day). I started school after and at 27 I finally got my first job at Starcucks.

I work 4.5 hours a day for 3 days straight and I can barely manage, I don't know how you wagies can do it? My back kills me for standing up those hours straight, I hate talking Stacies, Chads for the most part are actually pretty nice but ethnic Stacies are always shit.

Seriously, between the smart ass male customers who give an attitude when you ask them a question you're obligated to ask them because of your work, to the people who want to physically fight you when you don't give them a free item that expired eons ago, or the fuckers you know are clearly trying to scam the company for something that is so transparent that they get indignant at you for calling them out on their bullshit; I honestly don't get how some of you do this 5 days a week, 8 hours a day?

Luckily for me I have an office job lined up that pays more and doesn't have me dealing with customers.

>>38383449
>achieved a happiness that doesn't depend on externals
Well it clearly is since you're achieving it through doing things in the real world. You're fucking delusional if you think there's this "true inner happiness" that is completely independent of reality.

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>finished my first week earlier today
>went from neet to full time wagie

5 hours of free time each day isn't enough
I don't know how I'm going to last

>>38383731

There are a wide variety of religious and spiritual traditions that offer a path to a happiness that is not dependent on and superior to worldly happiness. People from a wide variety of cultures over thousands of years have all said that you're making a mistake if you attempt to find happiness through conventional, worldly methods and you're fucking delusional if you think that they're all wrong.

I don't know why you're claiming it's impossible in the first place since it's pretty obvious you don't even understand what we're discussing.

WHY ARE THERE AMN MANY DUVKINH N

>>38383937
>>There are a wide variety of religious and spiritual traditions that offer a path to a happiness that is not dependent on and superior to worldly happiness.
Is it even possible to be able to wholly embrace something like that when you've spent nearly 30 years not even entertaining the concept?

works 9 hours 5 days a week at shitty job ok pay.work,lift,go home ,do my things,eat man meal,smoke blunts,vidya and anime/sports. rinse wash and repeat .occansional meme war to let the angst out.

>>38384026

I would think the very fact that you've been trying and failing to find happiness via alternative methods for 30 years should lend credence to these ideas. Highly intelligent and insightful people from a variety of times and cultures who have seriously considered the best way to live a happy and fulfilling life have generally all agreed that true happiness comes from within.

>>38384162
I agree that happiness should come from within.
But how?
Religion and spirituality has never played even a tiny part in my life, and I can't manage to make myself believe it, despite trying.

>>38383937
Yet most people aren't like that. They need real things to give them happiness. So you're saying that the tiny minority of people who are supposedly happy regardless of whatever happens to them in reality somehow invalidates the vast majority who aren't like that? What makes your bunch of people right and the rest wrong? Let's see you try and keep most people docile using your drivel about inner happiness when things like having less wealth actually matters to them.

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>the american wageslaves would rather work 8 hours a day for 5 days than work 10 hours a day for 4 days

>>38381070
They got used to it from school, the whole point of kids being forced to go is for that programming, but autismal robots never got used to the people so it didn't work on us.

>>38382184
>>if you blame yourself as a failure you'll be happy
You only believe what you do because you don't see yourself as a failure.

>>38384247
I know that feel. I'd want to work only twenty hours a week, with a roommate, for two days per week, then have the rest off. A couple of roommates and you can pull such things off, but no employer would want to run it that way and respect you enough not to fire you. They want a full time bitch that craves sucking corporate penis all day every day, or else UR TOO LAZY TO BE RELIED ON or some other illogical bullshit excuse.

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>>38381070
>>38382184
>>38382372
You're all making the mistake of placing happiness as the ultimate value, only hedonism and self-destructive behaviors can follow from such a philosophy.

Find a purpose worth pursuing, believe in yourself as an item put on this earth to do that, and everything you desire shall follow.

>>38383663
I'm curious, how did you get that office job lined up? Is it something like working in a cubicle? I'd kill for that.

>>38384247
>>38384372
are you guys underage or what's going on here? you can choose to work however you want. if the shit doesn't get done, you'll get fired. people have routine schedules because committing to a schedule is efficient for most. you don't have to think about it. also it's obviously efficient to have most people in the office at the same time for meetings. if your company is shit it will quickly get replaced in the market.

Working is for people who can't find something to do with their time. I never really get bored anyway, and women are pretty much out of the picture so I do not need to make money.
Working would mean wasted time for me.

>>38384194
There are plenty of non-faith based belief systems that offer these ideas, like Stoicism and same varieties of Buddhism.

>>38384215
>So you're saying that the tiny minority of people who are supposedly happy regardless of whatever happens to them in reality somehow invalidates the vast majority who aren't like that?
No, I'm saying that they tiny minority who are willing to put in the serious work and effort required to attain this kind of happiness are proof that it's possible for the vast majority to attain as well. The fact that they're not willing to work for it is a sign of their own faults, not a fault of those who have proven it's possible.

Most people are too attached to what they think they need to be happy to even consider that they might not need it at all. What "real things" do you think you require in order to be happy? It's not a question of "being like that" or not, it's a question of understanding which kind of happiness is best and directing your efforts toward attaining the best kind rather than the temporary, uncertain kind.

>>38384414

My college offers work study to those who qualify for financial aid. I just asked the guy who does all the hiring and he said I'll start in the Fall, just have to file some paper work and it's official. No interview or anything, I got the job just by asking out of curiosity. It's pretty much a cubicle job where the school works with my class schedule so I don't have to leave campus in between classes and still get paid.

>>38384431
>you can choose to work however you want

Oh yeah, sure, let me just go in to work tomorrow and tell my boss what hours I choose to work. I'm sure that will go over really well.

>>38384391
What Value, what meaning is there beside subjective pleasure in the eyes of entropy and the inevitable decay of anything i could achive for me or humanity in general. The only meaning to existence is to have as much positive emotions as possible. Nothing else.

>>38384485
yes dickhead, if your job doesn't depend on other people you can choose which hours you work. if your boss can't trust you, congratulations, you're an entry level retard and this conversation obviously doesn't apply to you.

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>>38384485
>Oh yeah, sure, let me just go in to work tomorrow and tell my boss what hours I choose to work. I'm sure that will go over really well.

This is the exact reason I'm going into Real Estate. You set your own hours and work whenever the fuck you want to. Your check depends entirely on you and the amount of work/effort you put into it.

If you want to take a 2 month vacation, as long as you pay any dues you're golden and could come back in whenever the fuck you want. Obviously you won't get paid for your time off, so like I said, it's entirely on you but you won't ever get fired for showing up once in a blue moon and selling a house.

>>38384515
>if your job doesn't depend on other people

So...a very tiny percentage of all jobs? The vast majority of jobs "depend on other people". I don't know what you do but you're making a fool out of yourself by pretending like you're the rule rather than the exception.

>>38381148
Whats the money good for though? What is there to buy?
I used to be really. wealthy thanks to my dad so I got pretty much all I wanted, but at the end of the day I spent most my free time like I did before the <thing I brought>
Even the mercedez I got was nothing special anymore after 2 months.

>>38381070

Wagecucking isn't too bad when you're work at home master race
>don't have to go outside
>don't have to deal with normalfags in the office
>can work whenever I want as long as I get my assignments done so I still stay up late and sleep in
>fuck around with vidya games, 4chan, assembling and painting /tg/ toys, Netflix, reading for at least half of each shift
>have plenty of disposable income and the free time to enjoy the things I buy

>>38383094
Why are you proud of sitting around mom's basement, doing nothing day after day?

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>>38381070
I have a dream, and that dream can't be fulfilled if I don't wageslave.

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>>38381070
They are killing themselves, slowly over time. It's why old people look like shit.
http://metro.co.uk/2017/07/11/heartbroken-mum-reveals-her-husband-died-in-his-sleep-after-she-banished-him-to-the-sofa-6770365/

There's also a followup article about how she already moved onto his brother.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/love-woman-brother-in-law-husbands-death-sofa-argument-ashley-murrell-chris-mikey-relationships-a7836506.html

>>38384548
my friend works real estate. >>40hours/week for living wage.

>>38383663
>Luckily for me I have an office job lined up that pays more and doesn't have me dealing with customers.

You answered your question with this. I used to work on cash and on the floor as a stock clerk. The amount of bs i got from both ends (customers giving me shit, management fucking me around) was crazy.

Losing that job was the best thing that happened to me. I'm in a better retail job - i work overnights by myself. I can do work at my own pace, i can listen to music, etc. I have more or less a set schedule (i don't work weekends, and that may change when there's a holiday), so i can still do my shit when I want

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>>38384724
>You answered your question with this. I used to work on cash and on the floor as a stock clerk. The amount of bs i got from both ends (customers giving me shit, management fucking me around) was crazy.

That sounds like a dream job. To be fair, it's only 1 out of 75 customers that are shit, but man that 1 out of 75 is pure shit. My boss and coworkers are all great though, I usually get stuck doing the easiest and chill of jobs while they're busting their asses doing 10 drinks at once for impatient assholes that can clearly see them making tons of different drinks. Customers don't care though, all they can see is their cup is not made and they want it now. Oh well, this shit is going to be in the past for me.

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Wageslaves should watch this. Jeff and Some Aliens is a good cartoon to begin with, but this episode is about a machine that can give you anything you want by taking time off your lifespan. Really makes you think about all that stupid shit you're slaving away your life for.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x590q9i

>>38384493
You are like an insect, following your primitive instincts toward ephemeral pleasures.

You cannot write a romance novel without ever knowing romance, you cannot write a song about heartbreak without ever knowing heartbreak. You are not human without sadness, or glory, or vanity, or drive, and so on if the only thing you are is something that's happy and that's it, you are worse than a normie. You are the most shallow sapiant thing that lives. You will never know the true meaning of love because you don't know the appreciation of going without, you will never know the value in a life because you never wept when one was lost. You will never write books, movies, poetry or make great adventures and tell stories of because you live a vane, boring existence of chasing pleasures.

If you want to free yourself from guilt and glory and walk the nihlistic path then suit yourself but you are assigning yourself a personality of profound insignificance.

>>38381721
I wanted to kill myself back when I had to do that shit.

>>38384587
how did you get an at home job master race sir?

>>38384760
The pay isn't great, but I like the work, and its miles ahead of my last job.

Still, sounds like your job is ok, at least coworker wise. Even if every other customer is a dick

>>38381593
This, because work can divert your thoughts away from no gf to work.

>>38382543
I wish I could get more overtime. I've got nothing waiting for me at home and it would have the bonus of letting me actually get the medical care I need and some figures of my waifu.

>>38381070
That's what I've been trying to figure out for 27 years like man

>>38381070
I live off 24 hours work a week.
Still want to kill myself.

I get paid, with money.

Money can be exchanged for goods and services.

>>38384774
>If you want to free yourself from guilt and glory and walk the nihlistic path then suit yourself but you are assigning yourself a personality of profound insignificance.

Sounds good to me, thanks!

>>38381070
It's bearableif you have an office job.

>>38384774
>but you are assigning yourself a personality of profound insignificance.
My point is that this insignificance is not a choice.
There is no meaning, nothing more to life.
You can pretend that there is more but that is
illusional.
What seperates us humans from plants and animals is our capability to reason.
If we throw this away by pretending that there is a meaning to life, that there is a god, a paradise. Then and only then we life the life of insects. Then our lifes are insignificant.
Then we are worse than normies.
I beg you to prove me wrong. I realy do.
I don't want to be right with my assumptions but if they are correct then I as a rational beeing have to accept them and act according to them.

>tfw 10 hours everyday at work
>6 days a week
I am still the same robot I was but atleast instead of doing nothing in my room from depression and lonelyness I am making mad money!

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I'm still trying to figure that part out too. It's as if they are just content with existing as a mindless wage slave drone.

It's super easy when 80% of those 8 hours are spent pooing and shitposting while listening to asmr under a desk
Sometimes I take little naps

Make that 10, plus 2h of getting ready/getting to work+1h of getting home. I honestly have no idea why I'm still here

>>38385659
So the way I understand it, the route out of this train of thought is procreation. Not procreation for the sake of procreation, but for the sake of evolution. The only way we as insignificant lifeforms can prescribe significance to our lives without resorting to blatant lies is to endeavor to create a life form that isn't insignificant. Chasing after immortality and reanimating the dead could be seen as examples of this, albeit failed ones as far as we know. I'll admit this does take a rather large leap of faith but it is at least plausible instead of impossible. I hope that made some sense.

>>38381070
I break the day up into 2 hour chunks of time. It's an easier way to frame it in my mind. It helps because at 2 hours I take 10, at 4 I take lunch, and at 6 I take another 10 then I'm in the home stretch.

Plus it helps to become zen about time. The workday will be over when it's over and there's no point in looking at the clock or caring; time passes the same anyways.

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some do 16 hours a day,6x per week.

don't do AG trucking locally, the most brutal thing ever

>>38381245
>he hates on a honda civic

>>38381070
Tons of escapism, writing and music heIps.

>>38381070
>there are people who actually work 12 hours a day 7 days a week
>plus an hour to commute, 8 hours minimum to sleep due to exhaustion
>best case scenario you have 3 hours a day to do what you want to do

I'm not saying that being a NEET is the way to go either. It's just maddening to me that the opposite end of that spectrum is people being abused by a decadent society that thinks legal slavery is ok.