This notion that only chads get girls can only be accurate if

>>38198408
ok beta cuck, you can believe whatever you want if it makes you feel better.

>>38198408
But I need a virgin. I literally will not be sane dating a slut.

>>38198542
What's it like to be more insecure than 90 percent of the human population?

>>38198561
I wish it were insecurity desu. It's more like the idea of being with a non-virgin is revolting.

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>>38198408
lol if you can be bothered to bang girls one at a time

>>38198408
>This notion that only chads get girls can only be accurate if you're talking about only sex or really short relationships.

In other words, women are only sexually attracted to that small subset of men. The rest are just used for their money.

>>38198600
>I wish it were insecurity desu. It's more like the idea of being with a non-virgin is revolting.
Because you're insecure because you have no idea how to please a woman and would constantly be comparing yourself to anyone else she's been with

>>38198686
>Because you're insecure because you have no idea how to please a woman and would constantly be comparing yourself to anyone else she's been with

No shit, but it's not like men could force themselves to grow larger penises. Why shouldn't we be insecure?

>>38198686
It's really not, I just can't fucking stand that someone got to have her before me. I can't see her as mine that way.

>>38198408
>The only problem here is if beta neets refuse to get with past sloots
And here's the problem, you can never have a real relationship with used goods or someone who respects themselves so little they spent time throwing their self at at every chad dick around and now just want a stable provider, it will always end in pain for they guy as the girl slips back into her old ways.

inb4 normalfag cucks and roasties try to deny it

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>>38198686
pic related
>>38198665
>women are only sexually attracted to that small subset of men.
>implying the converse isn't true

All I know is that in highschool it become readily apparent to me that girls were hypergamous (I only discovered the term later), and that ONE guy in my class could get the attention of literally hundreds of girls, while huge numbers of guys remained sexless for years well into uni, all the while every woman I've known has had relationships.

What I also know from experience is that there's literally no benefit to me in being with a woman other than perhaps the sex, the risk of being cucked or disposed of, and the amount of investment women expect of you if you're not Chad is so ridiculous and soul-crushing, and so many women are on board with this including my own female relatives, that I feel like I won the lottery by becoming a Wizard.

>>38198749

Women (and female animals in general) are more selective by instinct.

>>38198824
>implying people here are sad because they can't get an ugly gril

There are 105 male births every 100 female births. Because of shorter male lifespan the gender ratio remains unbalanced until the 35-40 age bracket when it starts to even out.

When you are young you are literally competing against thousands of other men to get a gf. Theres no point trying unless you are top 5% in terms of looks.

>>38198729
So if a dude is a Chad he's used goods himself if he's fucked 100 women?

>>38198749
It's pretty well established that sexual market value for men is a zero sum game, with famous men at the top of the pyramid often with thousands of women, or their pick of the pack. Conversely, men don't care if a woman has high status on the dominance heirachy, they just like girls they get along with and find attractive. You can see this very clearly if you look at data from dating sites, you'll see a more even distribution of attention given to women all over the spectrum of attractiveness, with 7-8s actually getting more messages than 9-10s because men actually consider it hopeless in general to go for the most attractive women, while women go for the most attractive men in droves.

>>38198886
>the gender ratio remains unbalanced
Only in favor of males, who like fucking grandmas...
>Theres no point trying to get an attractive woman unless you are top 5% in terms of looks.
ftfy

>>38198805
I agree, it was the same in my school. There was some dude who was pretty much the only guy girls talked about in the whole school. you'd have to be willfully blind and ignorant not to notice this stuff.

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>>38198919

This, roasties and roastie enablers need to stop bullshitting. It's undeniable.

>>38198542
The purest girl I've ever met was a virgin. I broke it off with her because she was too inexperienced and I knew I would break her heart and I didn't want to be that asshole (I actually regret it)
Anyway, my question to you is how pure do they have to be for you to consider them gf material?
This girl in question had seen guys dicks before (she even touched mine) and I think she might have given one a blowjob. Does that make her used goods in your opinion? Just curious. Her hymen was still intact.

>>38198981

Yeah, I'd notice girls literally crowding around a few guys. It's depressing.

>>38199003
I wouldn't date her, oral sex is still sex. Every time I looked at her I'd be reminded and get angry.

>>38198919
>implying famous men have thousands of partners, at the same time
>attraction
>go for
Irrelevant. You sound like your self-defeat is just a consequence of envy and a consequential feeling of inadequacy. 5/10 guys who do not think this way get girls. That's just a fact.
>>38198984
Irrelevant. This only implies women think men are uglier than them -- not that the men they think are ugly can't get women.

>>38198408
>it is generally a 1-to-1 pairing.
that's what you think. why would you think that? most women that are even monogamous to start with are serial monogamous that move onto a new partner after a short term period and often over lap with getting a new second guy or multiples before dumping the first one

>>38199073
>Irrelevant. This only implies women think men are uglier than them -- not that the men they think are ugly can't get women.

They can only get women if they have money and pay for it.
If they can't get sex for free with no strings attached, then it's just glorified prostitution.

>>38199010
Did you ever see that youtube video of the guy who pretends to be famous in a New York mall? Just a regular guy, but he hired a film crew to walk around behind him, and next thing you know a crowd of women is trailing behind offering him their numbers and posting about him on twitter.

>>38199106
>what is "generally"
If women are unfaithful sloots as you imply, this would only be in favor of lonely men, not because they could get the sloots, but because it would mean there are more free women than men.
>>38199113
So you just mean sex, not meaningful, long-lasting relationships. If sex is all you want, perhaps you deserve to be alone.

>>38199073
It has little to do with how I think, I didn't think this way until my mid-twenties so that should be self evident. What is has to do with is my social skills, you need decent social skills or you will have no shot unless you're physically attractive. The reason is because women will never go for guys at the bottom of dominance hierarchies, and you can't climb them unless you're socially skilled enough.

>>38199181
>So you just mean sex, not meaningful, long-lasting relationships. If sex is all you want, perhaps you deserve to be alone.

Women will be fine with "just sex" for the right guy. They will volunteer to be side-bitches if the guy is attractive enough.
If you need a good job to have a "meaningful relationship" (in other words, glorified prostitution), then she doesn't really love you. She'll leave you if you ever stop being a good source of income.

>>38199181
>, but because it would mean there are more free women than men.
What part of having multiple relationships with multiple guys at the same time makes you think they're free more often? They literally will move from one relationship and start new ones before the first one finishes so they'll never be single, or 'free' as you like to call it. How are you getting to the fact more would be single. This is just weak, shitty bait.

>>38199239
Stop falling for this trolls bait. He acts like women might just wanting sex either is completely impossible, obviously it's a troll or just a very immature person.

>>38198408
I joined the military to get out of a hump. Got sent to Japan and Germany, got laid in both. Not trying to shill anything, but it is true. Girls love guys in uniforms.

>>38199200
You are putting the pussy on a pedostal. There are women at the bottom of heirarchies who are socially inept.
>>38199243
... It's just simple numbers... Suppose there were 100 guys and 100 girls, and 10 of those girls each got with 5 guys. That would leave 50 guys to choose from 90 girls. If the ratio is generally 1-to-1 guys-to-girls, and some girls get with many guys, it follows that there are more available girls than guys. If you can't understand this, I suppose your loneliness is just natural selection removing stupid people from the gene pool.
>>38199276
This only matters if more women only want sex than men. You're basically just whining and calling all women whores because you're too afraid to talk to them. I'd agree that most are whores, but not all.

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>>38198984
>okcupid
Oh look, a website completely saturated with desperate betas who are too scared to approach a girl in real life... and women rate the male users of this website poorly.

What a surprise.

But the thing is you look at this picture and dispair that women are unfairly harsh, they're not, men on these sites are largely mediocre and unattractive because they're needy tryhard faggots. Seriously, make a female account and go look at what's on offer.

Secondly females measure male attractiveness based on who they are as a person, not entirely on their looks. Looks help but they're not vital, and they can be neturalized by conveying low value.

Say a guy has a sixpack, he thinks "this physical feature should make me attractive" so he posts a bathroom mirror selfie on his profile. In doing so he has immediately cancelled out any effect his good looks could have had by demonstrated that he is a tryhard faggot who really wants girls to know about his sixpack. Its cringeworthy and unattractive. Bonus points for having a messy bathroom and taking a poor quality photo with a shitty phone. And yet you'd look at that same shitty bathroom mirror selfie and assume that the guy is insanely attractive, because you go entirely on looks.

Turns out men and women are different, there's no need to be mad about it.

>>38199383
>If you can't understand this,
you're thinking they only go for single guys and that a cheater isn't above cheating with another cheater, and I really don't knwo where you're from but women tend to go for guys that already have a mate even if they haven't got one of their own.
>>38199383
>You're basically just whining
nobodies whining, you say something stupid, we call you on your stupidity, then you say even stupider shit while trying to insult someone that made you look stupid, probably because you know how stupid you sound. If you're unironically not aware how stupid this all sounds you should probably go get a life and head back to face book with your tumblrina styled rants you like to post here.

>>38199073
>not that the men they think are ugly can't get women.
Think about the word "attractive" for a couple seconds. If someone is that, to the absolute minimum amount possible, what does that mean?

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>>38198408
This is in all liklihood really my problem with women. There is a chance, just a chance, that I'm not as fat and ugly as I think, and that there ARE girls I meet that I think are cute who think that I'm cure too.

The problem is that I also might just be fucking fat and disgusting like I think and so maybe that's why girls don't seem to overtly like me, or at least, not girls that I like too. My Australian friend said last night that she thinks I'm definitely in pretty good shape, and I disagreed, and said I was kinda fat, and she looked at me and made some comment about what I see and what everybody else sees.

Maybe she's just being nice idk. I just don't want to make women uncomfortable with my big ugly appearance you know what I mean OP-san?

>>38199488
Why don't you understand that the cheating thing doesn't help your argument? It could only possibly help if you are to say that men cheat more than women, thus making more men available than women.
You are whining in that your argument for why you're alone isn't rational and only consists of complaining that women are whores. If you take a shower, go outside, and ask 100 of the of the ugliest girls you can find for a date, you'll get one. So yeah, you're just whining because that would be inconvenient.
>>38199527
It means you don't want to sex them based on their looks.

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>there are still men complaining about not having sex with grills
>in 2017
>pickup exists and works
>there's so much free and piratable content its obscene
>you can literally just learn how to talk to and fuck girls for free on the internet
>but people don't bother
>its easier to be a victim and a crybaby
>its easier to just shitpost on r9k

I lost my virginity at 26 after following a pickup program that I torrented. I'm fat, I look like Zach Galifianakis, at the time I lived in a town of 100,000 people, most of them retired.

>>38199648
>It means you don't want to sex them based on their looks.
And furthermore, they're repulsive enough that you want to avoid any chance of finding something redeemable about him that could get you stuck anywhere near him.

> inb4 virgin neckbeards ramble about "muh 50s values, virgins" while the rest of us get laid.

Classic R9K, stay mad plebs

>>38199383
Thank fuck that once in a while someone who isn't a fucking idiot posts on this board.

>>38199725
Not that guy you were talking to but for anybody listening to this guy, what he's talking about is essentially the reverse halo effect.

That's why girls think that guys who watch porn and have sex with blow-up dolls are "gross", when in reality the actions are MUCH less gross than actual sex, considering that this is no real form of fluid exchange.

But hey, human being are fucking dumb ass creatures too, so what can we expect

>>38199725
Are you implying that's what "attractive" necessarily means, and thus that it's impossible to get a girl that isn't physically attracted to you? Perhaps the problem is that you expect to get with women you are attracted to, which happens to be only women who are better looking than you.

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>>38199401
>Oh look, a website completely saturated with desperate betas who are too scared to approach a girl in real life... and women rate the male users of this website poorly.

>What a surprise.

Are you implying that only the most beautiful of m'ladies are on okcupid? All of the landwhales and uglies stay away? Hm, then I suppose m'ladies are being very generous indeed *tips brimmed hat in a gentlemanly manner*

>Secondly females measure male attractiveness based on who they are as a person, not entirely on their looks. Looks help but they're not vital, and they can be neturalized by conveying low value.

It just so happens that men with the best looks also have the best "personalities."
I'll ignore the rest of your post because you're clearly devoted to being wrong.

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Growing up with chads ruined completely buried me. I never needed to read redpill material because I saw it first hand right in front of my face since about middle school when kids hit puberty. A small amount of guys got all the attention. This did not change in high school , or college, or in the real world. The things they got away with around women, the way girls reacted to them just completely fucked my head up. I would notice how they acted around chads, and then how they acted around "lesser" guys. It really hurt me and I probably will never recover. I understand that things are a bit different now that I am mid 20's and out of college, in the "real world" but any girl I meet that is around my age and attractive I just know she has a past. When we were both 19, I could never pull her.

>>38199840

Same, my former best friend was a Chad, it was humiliating and made me give up on life.

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>>38199835
>Are you implying that only the most beautiful of m'ladies are on okcupid?

Girls only need good photos to be 'attractive' to most guys, and girls are good at taking selfies. The myspace angle covers a multitude of sins.

>It just so happens that men with the best looks also have the best "personalities.

Yeah its called imagination. Because it turns out you can't actually convey personality through text and images unless you are amazing at writing and taking pictures.

>>38199868
>>38199840
I know what you guys mean, and its the reason why I really don't think its a good idea for me to go out with my friends and try to meet women. My one coworker is always telling me to come out with them and how girls were lining up to be with him and I really just don't think he understands that its just not going to be the same for me as it is for him.

I tried going out with them once and it was painful. I have had more than a few "handsome" friends, and it is fucking painful to walk down the street with them. I can always see women looking at them in a certain way and I think, "yep, that is the way a woman looks at a man she wants, I wish women would look at me like that".
Not everybody can be healthy physically, and not everybody can be healthy mentally. Just like it isn't fair to those who are born lame and cannot walk, it is not fair to me, who was born in an era where attractive men get crazy amounts of women and regular men, not so much

>>38199921
>look how hot I actually am tee hee
This gif should end with someone shooting her in the head.

>>38199383
>Suppose there were 100 guys and 100 girls, and 10 of those girls each got with 5 guys. That would leave 50 guys to choose from 90 girls.

No it wouldn't you dumbass.

First of all, it's probably all the same 5 guys. So 50 women are being taken up by 5 guys - because all of those women think they're in some kind of relationship (FWB, "talking", "dating", "almost exclusive", etc.) with those 5 guys.

That means 95 guys have to go for 50 women.

>>38199383
>If the ratio is generally 1-to-1 guys-to-girls
A completely opposing claim to the argument that you're superficially trying to look like you're entertaining.

>>38199805
Well, above you said that women think men are uglier than them, so on that basis if the exact median man tries for the exact median woman, she will think she's too good for him.

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>>38199840
>>38199932
The main reason you're so unattractive is because you're needy and butthurt.

If you took the time to resolve your emotional issues, you could get girls too, you could even reach the levels you witnessed in your chad friends, but you'd have a concious understanding of the dynamics at play.

Yeah you have to work harder than other people. Life isn't fair. Deal with it, or don't and stay here being a crybaby about it for the rest of your short life.

>>38198408
>That means for every neet who can't get a girl out of his league, there is a girl who can get a guy out of her league.

that's not really a fair comparison though

if all of those women get knocked up by Chad and live the rest of their lives as single mothers, they still have their kids as their motivation, accomplishments, and to keep them company

what do they guys have if they don't find a girl? not shit

>>38199989
So... you're saying the problem is that men are whores, not that women are whores?
>>38199998
It's a conditional; the antecedent can be anything I want, retard. And you'd have to define "generally" in a pretty silly way to make it untrue.
>>38200033
>above you said that women think men are uglier than them
No, I said the pic only implies that, which isn't even necessarily true.
>median man tries for the exact median woman
The point would be that this is entirely irrelevant.

>>38200037
The really funny thing is that the emotional state of being "needy" is virtually identical to the emotional state literally all people in all cultures before, say, 1968 considered being "in love".

The 2017 not-needy version of "in love" that people enter into via the principle of least interest and "playing it cool", after mature due consideration of the positives and negatives, after "learning what I like and don't like" in 50 previous relationships, and after "learning that real relationships are lots of work", would not have been recognized as "love" by any human being capable of emotion at any previous time i history. Only incredibly cold and calculating manipulators, of the sort that are held up as villains in morality plays, "loved" in the non-needy way we are now told is the ideal and the epitome of psychological health.

>>38200037
You don't fucking know shit about me faggot
Is my not trying apparent in the barbeque my and my roommates threw recently, where I asked several girls for their number?

You make these assumptions you fucking asshole, fuck you. What makes you think I'm not constantly trying to smile at women, actively correcting myself to make sure I have positive and strong posture, trying to speak clearly and confidently, and just trying to be kind-hearted and polite without coming off as too much of a bitch

Sure, I'm not sure of myself and I think that I'm ugly and shit, but let me tell you something, you'd never fucking glean that in real life, I've worked hard for that shit. The only way you'd catch wind of how pathetic I am with girls is by way of time, having been around me long enough to realize that I never talk about women at all. That's the only real reason any of my coworkers or room-mates have any hint of how pathetic I am with women.

>>38198984
Dating site statistics are literally all wrong. The only people on dating sites besides roasties are betacucks who can't man up to talk to a roastie in person. Of course those numbers are shit, that's the audience.

>>38200088
Everyone who makes any claim even remotely like the 80/20 rule is by logical necessity claiming that at least some men are 4 times as slutty as women, yeah.

Guys being whores impacts me because they are competitors. Women being whores impacts me because they are covered with the stain of all those previous dicks.

>The point would be that this is entirely irrelevant.

It's not totally irrelevant. A recurrent theme in this thread has been that robots are attracted to women who are out of their league. On what basis can you argue that the exact median man and the exact median woman aren't in the same league?

>hurr durr too bad you have to adjust to that

Part of the adjustment process is to fucking hate women for that shit. Just hide that hate well enough so that you can get close enough to fucking inflict some payback.

>>38200037

Oh I know I can get girls, but not the ones I actually want, and not at the age I want them. That was reserved for chads. I actually turned out to be a pretty attractive young guy, far too late though.

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>>38200238

>all of the women on okcupid are heavenly angels
>even the fatties and old single mothers
>only the men are ugly
Go tip your fedora somewhere else you white knight faggotron.

>>38199921
>Yeah its called imagination. Because it turns out you can't actually convey personality through text and images unless you are amazing at writing and taking pictures.

Wait a second - upthread you claimed that women can look at dating profile pictures and fucking turn into Commander Data as Sherlock Holmes and deduce their entire personalities from the photo backgrounds.

Now you're saying that people use their imagination to pretend that the good-looking people have good personalities. That pretty much endorses the "halo effect" argument, which is a core robot argument.

>>38200037
>all these projections

>>38200196
>trying
>trying
>trying
>"correcting myself"
You. Are. Awkward. Women hate awkward guys....

>>38199648
Nobody made an argument, you made one and sit around rejecting everything everyone says outright and coming up nonsense replies and further strawman arguments. You're always assuming the pairings are singles even when cheaters you think they're not cheatings already paired off, you think the cheater is going for a singleton. There are tons of scientific studies showing that's generally not the case and women want men that already have a mate over one that is single. This argument has nothing to do with the individuals you really can't seem to entertain abstract thought you must be that troll from the other thread that can't believe the 80/20 rule. You're a really annoying roastie. Go back to lolcow

>>38200321
Right, exactly.

Any date you go on, always remember you aren't her first choice.

Always remember that she's accommodating herself to "reality" and the passage of time. That's the only reason you're there.

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>>38198408

>It is generally a 1-to-1 pairing

But it's not. Chad fucks, beta bux

>>38200238
>man up
Hmm where have I heard this before?

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Give me a qt virgin gf to cuddle.

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>>38200263
>On what basis can you argue that the exact median man and the exact median woman aren't in the same league?
1. To assume that chart is an accurate representation of the populous is a hasty generalization. Dating sites are filled with lower-than-average-looking males and not lower-than-average-looking females. 2. The point is that attraction is ultimately irrelevant. If the median girl is attracted to more-attractive males than the median guy, tough, because there aren't enough of them to go around, aside from fucking and short relationships, in which case the median man is just whining because he can't get his dick wet.
>>38200360
>Nobody made an argument
If you're trying to convince someone of something, you're making an argument....
>You're always assuming the pairings are singles even when cheaters you think they're not cheatings already paired off
a 1-to-1 ratio doesn't imply this, idiot. The only whoring that could keep you lonely is if men are bigger whores than women. Even then, it would only account for making it a degree more difficult to get a woman, not making it impossible.

The simple fact is there are as many or more women than men and whining that women are whores does not account for your loneliness and you're an idiot for thinking otherwise.

>>38200426
>Any date you go on, always remember you aren't her first choice.
How is this not exactly the same for men? Both men and women want a 10/10 and get with lesser because they have to.

>>38200160
I broadly agree that what is considered "love" in mainstream society is actually a form of needyness, its a shitty dynamic but it kind of holds together because the needyness and the investment is mutual from both parties.

But being "needy" in this instance means you're needy and highly invested in seeking any kind of positive female attention or validation, which is unattractive because it demonstrates extremely low value on your part.

>>38200196
>You make these assumptions you fucking asshole, fuck you. What makes you think I'm not constantly trying to smile at women, actively correcting myself to make sure I have positive and strong posture, trying to speak clearly and confidently, and just trying to be kind-hearted and polite without coming off as too much of a bitch

I'm sure you are, and good on you for trying. However I didn't say erect a thin veneer of apparent confidence on top of a mountain of insecurity and depression... I said... actually resolve the insecurity and depression, I didn't say cover them up.

You can put on all the acts you want, people can tell when you're being inauthentic. You DO the things you think you should do, but people see it and they feel maybe on a subconcious level that something's off about you, they can sense that you are acting in a way that is in-congruent with your true feelings. And that manifests as creepy.

You're unhappy, you hate yourself, getting a woman's approval will not fix that. The path to happiness does not lie in attaining things outside of yourself, its a process of introspection, letting go of your facade, and re-owning the things you've repressed.

If you actually want to be constructive about this, look on youtube for Julien Blanc happiness manifesto. Or don't, you can carry on doing what you've always done. Eventually you might find a girl who is also a massive bag of emotional problems and who will be your gf... but don't be surprised if that relationship is awful and ends badly.

>>38200263
>Guys being whores impacts me because they are competitors
I don't disagree with you here but I'll post something that I think is very relevant.

>The only possible and inevitable effect of 90% of men shunning and shaming promiscuous men will backfire; men who complain are seen as unattractive and will be labeled envious haters while the men who receive this hate from men will even be more attractive with the ladies since they are additionally preselected for their virility. The men who shun the male sluts will be further excluded from the society of men who have real knowledge of female nature and will further relegated into the unsalvageable territories of involuntary celibacy and, if they are lucky, exploitation by an aging female slut. Beta males who shun promiscuous men will lose the benefits of the friendship of alpha males who help them by teaching them how to discern the slut from the non-sluts. The ultimate effect of this will not be to decrease male promiscuity but increase female promiscuity since women are able to get away with it more, further exacerbating hypergamy. Read it again; any male attempt to police the promiscuity of men will only result in greater hypergamy. Any promiscuous man who refrains from promiscuity will not decrease promiscuity since the male demand for promiscuous sex far outstrips the quantity of promiscuous sex supplied; it's a Tragedy of the Commons scenario. Suppose 40% of promiscuous men take a quixotic enterprise and stop sleeping around. There are an army of men lined up to take their place, so the marginal benefit of their refrain is zero.

What I am saying is befriend Chad if you can.

>>38200340
You might be too autistic to grasp the nuances... or even the basics of social interaction and empathy. You can't even grasp the idea that women think differently from men, and yet that should be obvious from their behaviour.

>>38200533
>hasty generalization
What's wrong with this when there is no empirical data to prove outliers?

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>>38199545
hows life biggie?

i forgot how this meme goes

>>38200533
>Dating sites are filled with lower-than-average-looking males and not lower-than-average-looking females.

What's your evidence for that?

>>38200533
>Dating sites are filled with lower-than-average-looking males and not lower-than-average-looking females.

wtf, what is your evidence for this? I've seen some seriously ugly bitches on okcupid.

>>38199383
>You are putting the pussy on a pedostal. There are women at the bottom of heirarchies who are socially inept.

I'm really not, what I was saying earlier is that women at the bottom of hierarchies don't want men who are at the bottom of social hierarchies. It's not men who select for social dominance, it women who do this. Women who marry men with terrible social skills only do it for the wealth transfer, they can not respect a man who is seen as lowly and weak by the group.

>>38200661
Men are much, much more likely to get lost in liminence than women, precisely because they're "needier".

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So I can get women the same way Chad can, I just have to wait until they're old enough that Chad doesn't want them any more?

I'm supposed to be excited about getting the football team's leftovers?

What if you just really can't be arsed to pursue the opposite sex?

I feel like I'd be really going out of my way to get a gf. I only have so many hours in a day.

It's a fucking chore.

>>38200747
Where did I argue any of that?

I am merely pointing out that the points you're making are internally contradictory.

That has absolutely nothing to do with whether I have empathy or not.

Here's a tip: despite what your commie fuck professors might have taught you, "nuance" does not mean "I can contradict myself at will and if anyone points it out I'll just sneer and say, 'Well, I guess you're just too unsophisticated to be comfortable with ambiguity'."

A point that is nuanced merely requires a greater degree of precision in its explanation to avoid confusion with related points. That's it. It's definitely *not* a license to be intellectually dishonest and full of shit.

>>38200533
>a 1-to-1 ratio doesn't imply this, idiot.
Holy shit you really think there is a 1 to 1 ratio you're like brain dead or something.

>>38201042

Also, make sure you have a high-paying job. And no pre-nup, that's too controlling.

>>38201085
right, I think that's the main point here. It might happen naturally for normal people, but if you're ugly and/or autistic it gets exponentially more effort for smaller and smaller rewards. Ok, if I worked out for years and gave up a ton of free time and things that I love to do, practiced socialising in humiliating situations over and over again, and got therapy... Maybe I'd get to bang an ugly unattractive chick in her thirties once or twice in between getting rejected by dozens or hundreds of women. Totally not worth it, I'll take my wizardry instead.

>>38200666
I see what you're saying but as before you're basing this on generalities. Again, you don't know me, and you don't know any of the nuances or micro-expressions when I interact.

When I tell my only female friend in a few days that I'm really starved of female affection and that I've only been with two girls, she'll probably be a little surprised

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>>38201042
yes you get to be the luck guy who dates stretched out single mother pussy and insult your ancestors who work hard over the years of human evolution just so you can raise chad's shitheads.

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Please eternally fuck off.