>"Socialism doesn't work, everyone just ends

>>38175903
thats all for him you faggot

>>38175903
That looks like a potluck at a retirement home. That's the best they can do for their supreme leader?

>>38175978
>That looks like a potluck at a retirement home

You couldn't do better tho

>>38175903
>what are North Korean famines

North Korea isn't socialist.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juche

>>38175903

Socialism usefully means , strong government regulation of big business and universal healthcare & education .

Not fucking communism.

>>38176310
True, but I haven't been tasked with catering the leader of my country

>>38176310

not him, but considering I wouldn't eat any of that and am still alive, I'd say I could do better

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>>38176370
>North Korea isn't socialist.
>Democratic People's Republic of Korea

>>38176370
>North Korea isn't socialist.
>by becoming a self-reliant and strong nation one can achieve true socialism.[3]

But hey you're right, it's not true socialism yet

A pure socialist or purre capitalist economy isn't good. A half socialist half capitalist economy works best. No oneshould be making money on things like healthcare, education, or taking advantage of the poor but business should be allowed to make a profit, within the law and within morals

>>38175903

i don't think a totalitarian dictatorship is the kind of socialist society anyone in the west wants anyway. it's a pretty serious mischaracterization to act like they do, like telling libertarians to go live in somalia.

This pleases my Boshevik sensors greatly

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

>>38175932
>citation needed

oreganolia

>>38176446

So it's a democratic republic and is thus exactly the same as the United States, which is also a democratic republic. Good to know.

>>38175903
Ironically supporting neo-nazis got us nu-pol. Now you want to ironically believe North Korean propaganda?

>>38176370
nod true gobbunism :DDDDD

>>38176577
It's socialist. Deal with it

>>38175903
Is DPRK the true redpill?

>>38176577
In a world where the Chinese Communist Party enforces capitalism, you really think names are worth the pixels it takes to display them?

So is North Korea Communist or not? the left can't make up it's fucking mind on it.

>>38175903
>>>/pol/
You just made this thread yesterday

This is not a political board. Fuck off

>>38176560

look at his weight.

It's a no brainer blox

>>38176922
>You just made this thread yesterday

Fuck off you paranoid autist

>>38176512
you say that yet you see the same group of people marching on the streets with USSR flags.
hmmm

>>38176699
>>38176699
>It's socialist. Deal with it

It's not socialist, it's a patriarchal lineage dictatorship

>>38176474
>A half socialist half capitalist economy works best.

Agreed. All americans liberals agree. But then you got the dumbasses on the right who think this is a bad idea because theyve been conditioned to associate socialism with "bad."

>>38176872
Communism is just a synonym for good in their eyes.

>>38176872
>So is North Korea Communist or not? the left can't make up it's fucking mind on it.
it's a dictatorship passed from father to son for generations now

just like the kings of old yurop

>>38176964
I was in this exact thread yesterday on /pol/. Fuck off or go back to /pol/

Stop replying to this shit.

>>38177006
Shut the fuck up, you're so annoying

oregano

>>38176971
a monarchy?

>>38177024
pretty much

The generals and other high ups are like feudal lords and given shit and power by the dictator/monarch

Fuck off back to /pol/


Liberals need to die.

>>38177018
Go back to /pol/
Or better, go back to /leftypol/


Oregon

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>>38175903
Kimmy is doing a pretty poor job of taking care of his people, but I imagine he'd do at least slightly better if his country weren't sanctioned to shit.

Also leave him the fuck alone, NK is one of the last countries without a kike owned central bank. Let him have his nuclear deterrent, literally who gives a shit if the west coast gets glassed, that's only a plus.

>>38176973
If you think having all that will fix the US, you are deluded. The US will fall, just as Rome did, and just as Europe is now, regardless of what little small political changes are being made.

>>38176965

where did you see that exactly?

>>38176965
I always wonder what russian immigrants or even eastern european foreign exchange students think of liberal homegrown american pussies waiving around the hammer and sickle.

>>38176849

The guy I quoted apparently did, because he thought simply posting the official name of the country in green text was proof enough that the country is 100% socialist. Even though the name of the country doesn't really indicate its economic status at all, nevermind the name being a huge lie in all other respects too.

>>38176973
>>38177254

In reality, the fact is that Americans already live in a socialist society that has socialist institutions. One is even named "SOCIAL Security" and is a wealth redistribution program. The point of debate between progressives and regressives (conservatives, alt-right, whatever) is how far exactly socialism should be expanded in our society, not whether we should "become" socialist.

>>38177339
I'm from Poland and I am disgusted by seeing that shit.
>>38177286
watch any left-wing march in the US recently. Every single one has USSR flags flown.

>>38177407

for something you've apparently seen a lot of you're surprisingly bereft of links or images.

>>38177415
Yes I am an autist that saves these marches in my bookmarks in case I will need it in a discussion on 4chan.
Just watch some left wing marches on youtube, every single time ussr flags are there.

>the leaders don't starve to death and take photo ops surrounded by food
>this means everything is fine
>this is what socialists seriously believe

>>38177100

The problem with North Korea's nuclear program is if they figure out how to build functional warheads they could sell or give them to terrorists. I don't really give a shit if the norks want a nuclear deterrent because if they ever made a first strike we could glass the entire country within a day, but I don't trust them to not provide terrorists with nukes or nuclear material.

>>38177405
Exactly. It doesnt matter how far are how limited they are. The US and europe are in the downturn either way. Progressive and social agendas barely fucking matter in the scheme of things. Having full socialism like europe has in the US isnt going to change much.

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>>38177286
>>38177415
I've seen it too, this is one from a protest at Berkeley.

To be honest, I'm not sure if they even know it's a USSR flag, they probably think it's just a generic communist flag.

>>38176370
"If it doesn't work it aint socialism, thus real socialism has never been tried!"

>>38177254
>The US will fall, just as Rome did, and just as Europe is now, regardless of what little small political changes are being made.

The average empire is around 300 years according to history. The USA didnt become a superpower until about 70 years ago. We still have a ways to go before falling.

Half capitalism/half socialism is the answer.

>In reality, the fact is that Americans already live in a socialist society that has socialist institutions. One is even named "SOCIAL Security" and is a wealth redistribution program.

Yes, but republicans are hell bent of getting rid of all this. The only reason they havent done so is because things like SS are popular.

You can thank Democrats for all of these socialist stuff that made us move forward.

>>38176398

That is a bunch of bullshit, man.

Socialism means worker ownership of the means of production.

You got your idea of socialism from mainstream media. What you describe is just a form of liberalism.

>>38177483
>The US and europe are in the downturn either way

The most socialist parts of Europe are doing just fine; great standards of living and plenty of innovation. Reinvesting in ourselves by repairing our infrastructure, educating our children and caring for the sick/poor will set us up for success in the future, because only with a smart and strong population can we face down the rest of the world.

Instead we let most of our money go to handjobs for hedge fund managers and executive boards. Why? The rich are just draining the country of every possible resource until they finally put themselves in overseas tax shelters along with their money. It's the average citizen who will be left holding the bag when the rich baby boomers who currently run America finish fattening themselves by cashing in on America's future.

>>38177715

There is no intellectually honest way to look at North Korea and claim it's the socialist paradise that socialists talk about. It is exactly as underhanded, empty and ethically bankrupt a rhetorical tactic as telling libertarians that Somalia is the perfect libertarian society. The only information this line of argument reveals is the worthlessness of the person making the argument.

>>38178039

Now ask yourself who is making it possible for the socialist parts of Europe to do just fine by subsidizing their defense budget. Do you recall yurofag leaders recently shitting bricks over Trump's threat to cut American NATO funding and his demands for them to contribute their fair share to their own defense? There would be lots of cuts to European social programs if Daddy America wasn't paying their defense bills.

>>38175903
>you will never be North Korean and have extravagant dinner every day
Why even live?

>>38177810

The US needs full social program for all not just spics and niggers with 20 kids

why do b8 threads always get so many replies on 4chan?

>>38177856
>I'm too autistic to understand that "policy or practice based on the political and economic theory of socialism" is also under the umbrella of "socialism"

>>38177810

>Social Security
>good
It's a Ponzi scheme people our age will pay into all our life only for boomers to drain it dry as one final "Fuck you" to us younger Americans. We will pay just as much into it as previous generations (or more if the tax rates are increased) while getting less out of it. It's on track to run out of money by the 2030s, meaning either taxes will have to go up or benefits will have to go down in order for it to remain solvent. Ignoring that, it's a horribly inefficient and unfair program that politicians regularly steal from to fund other things. SS gets 12.5% of most income legally earned in America yet if I pay into it all my life I will get far less from SS than I will get from the 401k where my employer and I are contributing 12% of my income, assuming, of course, the SS piggy bank hasn't disappeared when it's my turn to collect.

But it makes sense that SS is popular on a board full of NEETs and leaches.

>>38178083
>THIS IS NOT REAL SOCIALISM, SOCIALISM HAS NEVER BEEN TRIED!
Okay listen up you clown. The difference is that in Somalia a widespread government break down happened. That lead to various radical Islamic warlords effectively fighting for supremacy. While the populations average IQ is about as high as the room temperature in celsius in your basement. They had nothing to make it work and it was never their goal.

North Korea meanwhile did set out to achieve Communism/Socialism. It was their goal from the get go. If it would work you would have a pretty good foundation given the average IQ, localization, relatively stable political circumstances etc and we have a test group with South Korea proving that these people can work actual working countries.

It catastrophically failed on all fronts. The same as every single last attempt to make Socialism/Communism work, EVER. EVERY SINGLE LAST ONE. Going "this is not real Socialism/Communism!" is a non argument. Obviously it isn't, because it doesn't fucking work. Which is why you end up with this kind of clusterfuck every single last time in short order. Because they have to do this in an attempt to effectively force both people and reality to adhere to Socialist/Communist ideas and try to keep a non workable system up as long as possible. It's like you mixing two colors and expecting to get a third. Then when you actually do, you end up with a completely different one. Rather than going "aha!" you instead deny that you just mixed those two colors because if you had, you would've ended up with the end result you expected to get. Then you keep doing it.

>>38175903
he mirin them worms hard

>>38176849
are you retarded? did you not see the sarcasm?

>>38175903
>'And what's for the main course?'

>>38178909
>>'And what's for the main course?'

Crab legs

>>38175932
>one person gets a whole table of food
wtf i love communism now

>>38175903
The meat is probably human, and if this table is for the people, it is literally for all the people in the country

>>38178909
crab legs bruh