>How goes learning Japanese, anon? You haven't given

Nah it just takes time

i really want to play your rune games ma'am

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>>38138144
Nihongo wa totemo musukashizesu~

>spent years learning Japanese
>even went to Japan for a while to learn more
>can finally play untranslated h-games
>never need to wait for translations again
No regrets

>>38138224
what resources did you use?

i have the genki work book and so far im doing alright , i mainly want to gain reading proficiency and looking to see what else i can study with

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>>38138144
>going to take a japanese class next semester
wish me luck boys

>>38138144
>not learning Arabic and shitposting with arabs

>>38138144
>>How goes learning Japanese, anon? You haven't given up yet, have you?

f-fuck you
It's too hard
I've given up long ago

>>38138224
I got pretty far into Japanese before losing interest during the kanji grind. How do you recommend I get back into it? How did you get through core 2000?

I live in Japan and it took me like 4+ years to finally speak somewhat fluently. Then again, I'm not very smart. But it's a hard as fuck language, and i already knew how to speak spanish and i heard spanish is similar to japanese (it isnt wtf)

>>38138339
>I live in Japan
What do you do for a living?

I'm currently reading through Flyable Heart. I've been studying for a bout a year and a half now. I'm slow but I'm seeing progress.

>>38138369
i hit people and try to submit them and they do the same to me

>>38138463
Oh, okay.

I thought you were studying there or something

>>38138339
Phonetically it is

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>>38138207
eigo no hou ga muzukashiindato omou desukedo...

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>>38138503
The pronunciation was probably the easiest part since spanish was my first language. I was able to sound like a native speaker when i pronounced the words even if I couldnt put them together in a grammatically correct sentence
>>38138481
Yeah I went to highschool here. Sophomore to senior year before dropping out in senior year

pic related. it's what marijuana in japan looks like (VERY illegal here)

>>38138255
anki decks are good for kanji learning vocab along with the kanji.
if you want to learn writing them id suggest using the exercises in your genki workbooks where you write them over and over, thats good for not mistaking them for other kanji as well, it really drills them into your brain

>>38138553
i hope youre a citizen anon

>>38138332
Fuck flash cards. Fuck anki. Grab a note book or a text document. Play a game. Every time you come to a word you don't know, write it down.

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>>38138581
oh yea wey i'm all legal

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>>38138581
>Hakujin
>a citizen
>in Abe's Japan
Nope.

>>38138553
got any advice on learning kanji? obviously it's a lot easier to pick up if you live there but you still probably had to study a bit right?

>>38138581
He's married to a jap qt
living the dream desu

>>38138602
que padre

>>38138292

it's an easy language to learn. i'm basically retarded and never put effort into anything and I pulled a B with ease. unless you are a literal vegetable you should be fine.

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>>38138608
i'm mexican anon

orale

>>38138612
i'm still bad at kanji to this day but i trained myself by going out and just trying to identify stores and shops that way. A lot of ikayaki or ramen stands have their own kanji for what kind of store they are

also learning the "stroke pattern" of how kanji is written. Like what order to do the "strokes" are. there is an actual japanese word for this method but i forgot. it really helps doing that and writing because writing it down a lot instills the kanji in your brain

sorry really stoned right now everyone's alseep

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>>38138664
>it's an easy language to learn
we are talking about japanese right?unless you alreday know chinese , japanese is NOT an easy language to learn

>>38138664
easy class*
dont think cause what you learned in class was easy that communicating in real life in japanese is easy.

>>38138553
the weed in nippon doesn't look to bad. what do they call it there and how much is it?

>>38138769
they call it 10 years in prison

>>38138144
Yeah, i gave up when i realised it was fucking useless

>>38138769
They call it "habu" which is basically just the nip way of saying the english word "herb"

It's pretty expensive here just that 3gram bag cost me 7000yen but its real high quality and i got 5000yen bag of hash (hash is cheaper for some reason) courtesy of kobe takumi-gumi

>>38138735
>>38138732

>dont think cause what you learned in class was easy that communicating in real life in japanese is easy

oh yeah definitely. i should have said the class is easy. communicating is a totally different animal.

Reading genki, going to take Japanese class if my college allows me to take it at another college/uni

>>38138825
>kobe takumi-gumi
you're involved with yakuza?

>>38138255
>grammar
I've used a variety of resources, it doesn't really matter which ones you use. Just work through the textbooks and practice making sentences on Lang-8. Only recommendation with which textbooks is try to get ones that have a series from beginner to advanced, that way you've got a more consistent progression instead of jumping from textbook to textbook.

>vocab and kanji
For kanji, the kanji master N5-N1 Arc academy textbooks are pretty good. Add one page a day from the book into anki (put the reading and one of the meanings of the kanji as the front, and then try to remember how to write/visualise it), it starts off nice and slow, and as you go up the N levels you get more and more kanji per page. Generally your kanji reviews will be really manageable. I only get 50-60 a day which takes like 10-15 minutes to do. Making yourself write out the kanji when you're doing the review will improve the effectiveness of the reviews.

You can also use those kanji master textbooks to mine for vocab. Each kanji has several example sentences and some words using the kanji, add all unknown words to anki along with example sentences. There are some formal or unusual phrases/words in there but they're mostly marked with a triangle so you can just ignore them. The bonus to adding that vocab is that you automatically learn and remember the readings of that particular kanji by memorising the associated vocab so there's no need to go out of your way to memorise that shit.

From there, read as much native stuff as possible. Ideally you don't want to be rushing to the dictionary every other word, so try to find stuff on your level. Children's stories are good if you're a real beginner. Reading will boost your kanji and vocab recognition memory.

I don't recommend doing the core decks unless you have autism focus or adderall, you'll likely just burn out. Take it slowly and steadily, absorb what you can, reinforce it with anki and reading and everything will follow.

>tfw to intelligent to learn Japanese

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>>38138929
No. I just have a friend from highschool who is now affiliated with a yakuza branch here in osaka.

He's my weed connect rn. Other than that, no, I don't mess with any yakuza. That's dangerous wey

>>38138938
>>38138554
thanks guys

im still somewhat early in the genki book but i will keep this info handy for when i reach the more advanced topics.I certainly need to motivation to keep up

>>38138332
>I got pretty far into Japanese before losing interest during the kanji grind. How do you recommend I get back into it? How did you get through core 2000?
Like I said in >>38138224 I'd stay away from core decks if you can. They're just a shit grind. The textbooks I mentioned are better because they're grouped by theme and come with example sentences and vocab you can anki which helps cement the meaning/readings and brings it all together. I should mention I've only memorised about 1000 kanji, that's so far enough to get by with general reading. Every now and then I come across kanji I haven't memorised yet and it's just a quick dictionary look-up to find the reading. Often it's a word I already know and seeing the kanji over and over again makes you end up remembering it even without putting in much effort.

tl;dr You want your kanji learning process to be natural and connected to the other things you're learning or reading. Anki core decks are just an unconnected, monotonous grind

>Spend at least $300 on Japanese language related shit
>Quit because I'll never amount to anything and I live in the middle of fucking nowhere

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>>38138144

Doing Mandarin instead. Over a year strong here. Study 1 hour everyday

>>38138144
>take a Japanese course
>professor makes us do a fucking stupid icebreaker game where we introduce ourselves and say why we want to learn Japanese
>someone else already took the "food" and "scenery" cop outs
>say I'm interested in the Samurai period of Japanese history
>mfw there is no period of Japanese history known as the samurai period
>professor giggles and says that's very nice before moving on to the next person

>>38138595
>lose notebook
>friend translates some of the words
>"why does your book say rape pussy cumming lewd babies?"

>>38138144
It's going pretty good. Check this out
"Ich spreche perfekt japanisch"
Pretty good eh?

>>38138979
How can I find yakuza?

>>38138144
>Get ok at jap
>Can read most shit I come across with some level of difficulty
>A couple thousand cards through in Anki
>21 credit hour semester comes along in uni and I go an entire semester without studying japanese once
>Didn't pick it up again following semester
>2700 cards to review
>All of that grammar memory lost as well
I'm afraid to start again.

>>38139090
You're on /r9k/, why do you have friends? You should leave.

>>38139141
The quickest way to find a yakuza here is buy going to one of the hostess bars in Namba (roppongi if you're in tokyo) and you have to go to the one specifically which offers sex, then do something with the girl, then try to run out without paying

>>38139180
It's like riding a bike, it'll come back fast.

>>38139239
That also sounds like a quick way to get the shit beat out of you.

>>38139333
It has been the majority of a year since I have concertedly studied. I'm going to start up Anki and try to grind through all of these old cards I guess.

>>38139363
Just read manga or play a game. You're above the point where you need anki. Just use google translate or look up words in a dictionary.

>>38139363
>>38139430
I also say this because just grinding anki will cause you to lose interest again. Do the thing you wanted to learn moon for is more motivating. I even find lyrics of my favorite songs and translate them for my self.

>>38138938
doing it for awhile now, just wondering how much a day is good. I spend 2 on new stuff and 1 hour on review. then 1 watching anime.

getting the grammar down is hard

>>38138144
bump for anons learning Japanese

>>38138144
sorry i learn spanish much easier and much more speakers in the world over japanese so more use cases for it

I have taken at least five semesters of Japanese and it can be quite difficult to utilize everything you have learned. I find the Kanji and conjugation to be pretty easy. It can be fun to learn kanji, but it takes a lot of dedication. I can get pretty into it for a while, but then I have other classes I need to focus on and it really throws me off. It is really hard to go back into it. I was doing at least an hour of kanji a day and it can be really hard to make time for that every day. I was trying to learn to read and write about 50 kanji per week. It really takes a lot longer to be able to write than to read, while still reviewing and remembering the past kanji. Sadly, the next level class isn't being offered so I think I will just read some books like genki and my class textbook. I tried a little bit of online 1 on 1 classes and they seem okay, but I haven't really stayed with it. I think I will go back to it soon.

>>38138144
>Not learning Korean in order to meet your next K-GF
How dumb are you?

>>38138332
>pretty far into it
>How did you get through core 2000
>dekinaijoshi.jpg
>>38140685
>while still reviewing and remembering the past kanji.
that's where Anki comes into play, bb

>>38140785
I got to only about 300. It is definitely possible if you make time for it. The thing is my progress was slowed by the amount of review I had to do. If you take a break from it you will remember some of them, but not nearly all.
I like and have used anki, but I only really use it for vocabulary. I use a fantastic app called "Kanji Study." It is a few dollars but it has everything you will ever need in learning kanji.

>>38138144
i live in japan and am fluent

suck my dick

>>38140785
dude less than 1% of Japanese learners are ever gonna make it to the kanji part much less start core 2000

I got pretty far if I say so myself

Is it impressive? No, but is it farther than most English speaking Japanese learners? I think so

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>>38140921
>i live in japan and am fluent
>suck my dick
teach me and I will desu

>>38140946
I mean, even if he doesn't teach me anything, I might indulge in a good dick-sucking anyways

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*biggie cheeze steps in*
hey im biggie cheese

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Any anons living in japan right now that want to chill and get stoned without getting arrested or beat up, come hit me up in Osaka.

im also selling psilocybin mushrooms give me a throwaway if interested. psilocybin shrooms is legal in japan mods and keiji kyoku

>>38140925
>kanji part much less start core 2000
...but that can be one of the same. I mean, you'll need to study radicals to break down kanji into easy to identify pieces, but that's no biggie. The readings can be a pain in the ass, but for that you just drill vocab flashcards and read as much as you can. I'm at 7k vocab cards (500+ hours just in Anki alone) and I still feel like my Japanese is baby-tier ala NHK News Easy. I really need to read more ;_;
People really need to not let Kanji psyche them out -- ~2200 really isn't that big of a number.

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>>38141050
THIS IS AN INVASION
STOP RAIDING AND DERAILING THIS THREAD RIGHT THIS INSTANT

YOU'LL NEVER MAKE ME A MEMBER OF YOUR CULT BIGGIE

>>38141059
I wish I was there so I could, anon. I have been there once before and it was great.

>>38141059
how much are you selling them for?

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>>38141151
yeah its pretty nice. i feel osaka is a lot more "chill" than tokyo like it has a more comfy aesthetic but tokyo has that more you know...tokyo feel
>>38141174
5g for 10k yen.

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>>38141230
Do you know anything about getting a technical job in Japan?

I wanna be an engineer for Lenovo designing thinkpads so I can bring back the old designs that is my dream

>>38141230
>10k yen.
88 dollars for 5gs? Thats a fucking ripoff

>>38141272
>Thinkpads
>Japan

It isn't 1995 anymore, Anon.

>>38141339
Every thinkpad is designed in Japan anon, ever since the Lenovo buyout

The x230t was the last good thinkpad and arguably the greatest thinkpad and it was designed in Japan

>>38141272
Uh, not really m8. The only working experience I have in japan is some restaurant and bakery experience and teaching mma.

I dont know anything about technical computer jobs, but I know the big companies all have pretty much only japanese people working there, i don't know why they would hire a foreigner unless you have like...a lot of experience in the market or you're super famous idk lol
>>38141325
You wont find shrooms anywhere else here. Weed here is 7-10k man. Drugs are expensive in this country

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I need to design a good thinkpad again
I need to get to Japan and take over the thinkpad research and manufacturing department, YAMATO LABS

I know it's my destiny and I will TRY MY BEST!

>>38139050
what do you study with anon? im learning moonspeak right now but mandarin fascinates be beyond anything else, it's on my bucket list to learn before i die

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>>38141429
I wish you luck, anon. I know you can do it!

>>38139075
At least you didn't freeze up and stammer out you were doing it for the loli doujins.

>>38139141
The entirety of the pachinko business is yakuza-controlled. Just go to your local pachinko parlor and ask the hard looking guys in suits if they sell weed.

>>38138979
>No. I just have a friend from highschool who is now affiliated with a yakuza branch here in osaka.
>He's my weed connect rn. Other than that, no, I don't mess with any yakuza. That's dangerous wey
Can you get me into the yakuza

>>38141876
No, but i can get you high drugs from the yakuza

I know english and Spanish, I'm already better than 95 percent of people

>>38138144
>tfw too pathetic to even learn my own native language
Fuck moonspeak, I'll stick to speaking burger.

>Started doing Anki core2k a few months ago
>Suck at it but keep going
>Losing interest in anime recently
>Realize travelling there wont change my life at all, no way I will meet a qt who will marry a neetbux loser


Well I am still going to keep learning but I am very discouraged.
I guess I'll be able to read untranslated doujins though..

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>>38142158
Let's learn together anon! It'll be fun :)

>>38139952
Spending a lot of time studying is useless if you're not using it. It's really key to be writing shit on Lang-8 and trying to read stuff. Make sure you spend just as much time using the stuff you're learning as you do studying it. Otherwise it just gets progressively boring because it seems so detached from any real-world practicality.

If you're getting stuck on particular grammar, the three dictionaries of Japanese grammar are absolutely amazing at explaining grammar and breaking down how to construct a given sentence with it and going over some of the finer points of usage, as well as explaining how the usage and nuance compares to related grammar that might be similar enough to be confusing. The three books are A Dictionary of Basic Japanese Grammar, A Dictionary of Intermediate Japanese Grammar, and A Dictionary of Advanced Japanese Grammar. If you can't afford them I'm sure there'll be PDF versions around somewhere. While I was in Japan there were numerous times where I just couldn't quite get my head around some of the stuff taught in the school and those books cleared it right up.

>>38138144
I'm not learning Japanese... I tried learning it in highschool and just couldn't wrap my head around it, so instead I'm learning Russian.

I've already memorized the alphabet and basic introductions/manners. If I keep the pace up I'll be able to hold a small conversation soon!

>>38138144
I'm spending a solid 10 minutes per day doing Japanese on Duolingo, so I'll be able to hold a basic conversation in about 10 years.

>>38138144
Have taken a break on doing new vocabulary while studying for tests, but I'll start up again next week. At least I've gotten really good at the ~200 or so words I already know.

Now I just need to study grammar and I'll be good to go for reading picture books.

>>38142186
Fuck off faggot stole my shibbledibble go fucking get it big nerd.

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>>38142355
>Fuck off faggot stole my shibbledibble go fucking get it big nerd.
Translate that to English pls

>>38142382
You are gay is what I meant to say. Please leave me alone and learn your dumb language in peace.

>>38142253
at least your goal is realistic
>>38142043
95% of americans you mean
>>38142185
be sure to have something keeping you going anon

>>38138144
anata ni wa kankei nai desu.